What We Can Learn From Primate Interaction
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- Опубликовано: 22 окт 2023
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JP and Sapolsky. What a gift...
I can't WAIT to see this whole thing. Both have put their university lectures online. You learn quite a bit watching them in parallel. Great to see them speak.
The whole thing is on Spotify!
@@JoannaT2n
great point! ive watched both their lecture series and they changed me. youtube is actually good for something besides stupid pet tricks occasionally.
Prof Sapolsky is one of the biggest names in the game. I myself am studying evolutionary biology. Thank you for this video. You both are big inspirations for many young people and scientists
Big fan a Dr. Sapolsky, thank you.
Geeeezzzz. I am in Heaven. One of my most beloved dreams came true. These two geniuses together!!!
So glad for you! @@St.Buddha_Brahman-Sun_of_Light
"I love this side of you jordan peterson" to me are you a "scientist" i understand politics is important absolutely...But my soul shines when you do what you are best at teaching people things ... "Ok jordan ❤️🙏 love and respect."
Omg! Excited and counting the days to have this full conversation see the light of day
Super interesting!! Can’t wait to see the rest
Brilliant discussion, so interesting, thank you.
I can't wait for this to drop. I hope one day we could have JP and Thomas Sowell chat for a bit
Or Sowell and Sapolsky ...the baboons are a corollary for predatory males in groups gangs etc
Good one. Thanks!
I have been behaving like a primate because I am too giddy to listen to the whole conversation. Love love love Robert’s and Jordan’s works
I have been behaving like a primate because I am biologically determined to do so.
I haven't even watched it yet but because of Robert I'm going to give it a like. I find his research and interpretation astounding.
JP and Sapolsky: a dream come true.
Totally mind blowing video here! Watched it twice!
Danke, 💯
Very interesting!
I wanted these two to talk about their views on the existance of free will since Sapolsky went on Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krause last week.
These guys give light to what we deal with in ourselves and in our loved ones😆 🤔
The stress in an elderly woman who had a stroke that has impaired my ability to walk.
The lesson to learn is that you do not have to be a jerk to have a good society. If we get rid of the hardliners, we can all relax and have more things with less work and less trouble, and more enjoyment.
That opening line will become a meme 😂
How can I get an excuse to skip everything stressful at work from this very smart Professor? I’m worried about my health. Not lying.Either Sapolsky has no idea how demonized JP is (which would be awesome enough) or he knows and don’t give AF…EVEN BETTER!!
It is no surprise that the accidental higher numbers of females has a calming effect on the whole baboon group. I watched first hand the same effects on humans.
When I was a teenager (late 80s - mid 90s) an average Friday or Saturday night consisted of wandering the local suburbs looking for random parties. If the guys outnumbered the girls it would guarantee there would be fights. If the proportion got close to two to one the fights would then involve multiple people not just one on one scuffles. The rule was almost 100% accurate.
Yes, I was the nerd on the sidelines, doing more calculating than fighting.
it’s like the less women, the higher the desire for a male to express dominance over other males, in order to ensure access to one of the limited females
YEEES! FINALLY
Behave, my all time best read ever!
Sapolsky did a great interview with Lawrence Krauss. I was hoping he would talk with Peterson to promote his new book!
I'm sure Jordan chickened out and directed the conversation only to themes from Behave.
Super thanks faster 🙏💗🙏
God Bless you 😂🧔
I would love to see peterson and sapolsky debate trans issues. As from my understanding they would surely be polar opposites of each other on that subject.
Me too! I was hoping against hope that they would get into that in this talk, because Sapolsky is probably the only person that Jordan will listen to on the subject. He needs to see Sapolsky’s lecture on it.
I would not want to see that. Stop giving attention to those people, please.
Hey man brilliant channel and sayings depending on weather its actually you or if you just re-upload
@@Cryptum404 yip
He's referring to the "Elites" of the monkeys getting wiped out & creating a monkey utopia.
It's basically my strategy.
It worked extremely well for the monkeys, with better immunity & all coexistence. Do you see the forest through the trees?
One community is ruining it for all.
I really wanted to hear what he was going to say at 8:54 ... I guess I'll have to watch the whole thing eventually!
2 lil vids of what is about to come, i already thought the first was strange because it this is the first i ever saw from you, but now a seccond one?
So it wont be posted today?
Since it is so different it is a little exiting, everything new is.
But i do have my expectations.
I could also speak about some of the stuff i disagreed with about this vid but i rather wait till the full vid is released.
When can we expect it?
However, if there were such thing as a baboon IQ test, I wonder if the reduced aggression has also resulted in a reduced drive to solve problems, and did it therefore reduce average intelligence of that baboon troop.
OMG OMGOMGOMG IT HAPPENED JORDAN PETERSON AND ROBERT SAPOLSKY YESYESYESYESYES
❤
I remember seeing this guy years ago in the documentary film ‘Zeitgeist’. Those films changed my life.
Damn dude , deep cut. This docs rules
That "documentary" has been soundly debunked. Entertaining? Yup! True? Maybe 4% 😅
@@agingerbeardYep. Sad that it's still talked about...
@@agingerbeard y’all are gay.
@@agingerbeard Sure but that doesn't change the point that the film changed his life and that's how he discovered Sapolsky. Unnecessary reply; no need to ruin his parade
Not only do they inspire current students they inspire old psychologists....Sybil Francis PhD clinical psychology professor 79-97
Very interesting
I wish he did not interrupt him. I was waiting to hear what what coming after the "BUT"! 8:50
Ohh Rogan is going to be all over this one 😂
Uhh anyone notice he cut him off at the conclusion of his story. What happened when he went back 10 years later?
“What’s it like living with baboons, sir?”
No need to make fun of him dude. Just give him some change.
Oh my god guys it’s Jordan Peterson actually talking to and about someone and something IN HIS FIELD !!!!! He 🎉🎉🎉
I really hope Sapolsky and Peterson will talk about free will since they have opposite views from my understanding and Sapolsky has recently come out with new arguments against the idea
Sadly he didn't talk about his new book about free will, it would be very interesting to let Robert present his ideas about the fact that there is no free will. I understand they have not touch that subject considering Jordan has a great numbre of people who follow him and adore him and who are religious in many different ways and really conservatives and the idea of free will for them is important in order to justify their beliefs. Maybe they will talk about this some day.
"Their highest calling in life is to make someone else miserable." Defines a certain group - Who Only Keep Enabling Envy.😢
Wait, what was the but when he came back ten years later?
Great minds don't think alike
Well then we have to do the same now in our western societies and which presidential candidate is going to bring in the most positive sea of change to our democratic systems
What can we learn from primate interaction? Two primates interact to find out!
I wonder if some of this can be applied to the culture collapse of the peoples in south west America around 1250?
Moral of the story: let’s go after the 1% and have better immune systems afterwards ;)
You most likely are the 1%.
Not much.
So they're just like us except it's socially acceptable for them to tear one another to shreds in the event of a quarrel instead of through civilized dialogue. Lol
Jordan, you missed the point.
It's not a few psychopaths,
It's a community at the top of the hierarchy, that's still in control.
Not a few individual monkeys.
At the VERY end, there... Bringing up the fact that we've domesticated ourselves via third party means. Dont you think it's exactly THAT which has brought about such a weak society? Personally? I've noticed how it's begun to swing back in a stronger direction, as of late... And thank God for that. But correcting a social issue requires a little more finesse. Dont completely eliminate the reason for that particular nature's existence... Provide a reason to need it but just not as aggressively... I dont have any answers. Just input from observations. And I have no idea whom I'd be speaking to in this passage but if it's read by them? They'll know...
The real difference between most primates and us is that we've gotten far enough to invent taxes 💀
Why do I have a bad feelings that them alphas have been collecting taxes for ages
Wow! We moved from lobsters to primates. That’s a huge improvement. Keep it up Mr. Peterson, you are closer to make some sense. 👏
" psychopathic prick route"
Wasn't it true that certain kingdoms, when their mercenary armies were of no further use, would find a way to dispose of them?
"Night of the Long Knives?"
So, netenyahu, ben Shapiro and his co worker should...?🙂
I couldnt resist 🙂
I don't have any stress I don't believe in stress it's called life get over it. Stuff happens, it's to swallow it, and navigate.
How does it feel to work with babboons?
You work with conservatives, you tell me.
I can't take anything this guy says too seriously. He doesn't believe in free will....
It looks like God is working through nature on even monkeys. Lol.
You lost me when you kept saying westernized later hippie
Mr. Peterson, you interrupt too much.
There is a huge difference between Sapolski and Peterson. Sapokski is driven by science and data. Peterson is driven by his religious bias. One sees the reality of things - Sapolski - and the other one - Peterson - sees only what he wants to see due to his personal ideology.
would love to see an irrational guy like peterson debate sapolsky on free will
Sapolsky is a pseudoscientist.
He is a professor of biology, neurology, neurological sciences, and neurosurgery at Stanford University.
@@MrMatewo222 An argument from authority (argumentum ab auctoritate), also called an appeal to authority, or argumentum ad verecundiam (argument against shame), is a form of argument in which the mere fact that an influential figure holds a certain position is used as evidence that the position itself is correct.
The general form of this type of argument is:
Person or people A claim that X is true.
Person or people A are experts.
Therefore, X should be believed.
@@myfakinusername MrMatetwoo didn't commit a fallacy. He simply stated that Sapolsky is a professor of many subjects at Stanford which debunks the pseudoscientist comment. Nothing more and nothing less. He didn't even say whether Sapolsky is right or wrong, he simply stated his credentials. Fallacies are fundamentally based on assumptions and MrMatetwo didn't assume anything. Maybe you should learn to spot fallacies better instead of deploying low resolution thinking and calling other people out.
@@perffekt your whole argument failed to realize what myfakinusername was trying to convey. He said credentials aren’t proof that he doesn’t do pseudo science. And your argument is the other guy is correct because he mentioned the credentials he obtained . There was no disproving or proving on any side. None of you dismantled anybody’s argument.
I really wish Jordan didn't interrupt him there. Talk about blue balls 🫤