I like when Thomas does a conclusion at the end with all the main points. Then people have the option to watch as much as they feel they need to and then see the conclusion.
My short insight into this topic is that not all calories are created equal. I can eat 3500 calories a day of lean meats and fats, and as long as I'm working out and being active, I can gain muscle and lose fat. I can eat the same amount of carbs and shit food and gain fat like crazy. I believe in a calorie deficit and timing your macro intake for the most part - but everyone's body chemistry, and how we metabolize certain foods are different. My body is carb/sugar sensitive. I feel amazing just eating meats and fats. Bottom line, calorie intake isn't the main factor. The types of calories you ingest play the biggest role.
I'm currently staying in France for 3 months with friends and family so I get to see how they eat on an average day. Every meal is carbs and fats together but they don't overeat calories
He mentions we tend to overeat foods that are carb and fat combinations. Think caramel latte, donuts, French fries, ice cream, potato chip type foods. My understanding is the French eat more balanced meals with protein and more vegetables ,except maybe breakfast. I saw a woman showing the menu for French school and it was much healthier than ours. I’d love to hear what you are seeing.
@@Tsili-Walela today I had lunch with my mother in law and what a fat/carb bomb it was. Entrée was foie gras with brioche bread and white wine. Main meal was Toulouse sausage and scalloped potatoes with cream. Everyone wiped their plates clean with baguette. Then they had cheese and more baguette. Finally it was raspberry tart and coffee. Barely any protein or vegetables
Don't let the negative comments discourage you. This is a most interesting topic and I'd really like more discussions about it. Carbs and fats at the same time is one of my biggest questions at the moment. The Sardinians seem to eat a lot of bread with olive oil, but they exercise a lot in their farms after eating. That seems to curb the glycemic spike and duration, resulting in longer lifespans.
Pretty simple, mixing dependent on food sources as to the damage or rate of digestion and a long period should be taken after a meal … problem is we have mixes of energy now with fast digestion and people eating all day with no finite gaps
@@truthbomb5352 Consuming oil along with carbs will prevent a spike, but will cause blood sugar to stay high for hours if one doesn't exercise a lot after. Sardinians also eat a lot of raw fresh greens called curda from their farms through the day. Simply not eating isn't enough.
I prefer 3 square meals per day; in my family there were no snacks. I don’t want to think about food all day; I prefer to eat enough at each meal that I have no hunger for at least 4-5 hours. I tried intermittent fasting 18/6 but it worked out more like 16/8. It wasn’t hard but it just did nothing in terms of fat loss. I eliminated soda 40 years ago; seed oils 15 years ago, and have not really eaten a SAD diet in life as an adult. Last October I gave up sweets, and my bloodwork significantly improved, but I can’t seem to lose the 30-35 lb I’d like to lose. I eat a primarily animal-based meal, but more like Dr. Saladino ( with fewer fruits). I dislike most veg, so keto is not in the running. Actually counting calories might work, but I don’t want to bother. I’ll figure it out eventually. I probably need to eat more fish (not a fan) and walk more. My gym workouts have firmed me up considerably, but I might lose a pound twice a year. BTW, even the explanation of the double-water thing is absolutely opaque-way over my head. Is this a thing only used in research? If so, how relevant is it to your listeners?
I listened to this twice and the only thing I got out of it was don't eat large amounts of carbs and fats together . I couldn't get any addition info out of this.
With all due respect, if you got one thing out of this that could change your life, isn’t it worth it? This is a detailed explanation as to HOW and WHY this happens. Damn, if I had known this 15 years ago I wouldn’t have ended up 300lbs.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial Thank you for the response Thomas. I never a miss an episode of your channel because it is so good - you basically spoil us with massive amounts of complicated information broken down into understandable chunks FOR FREE, which obviously takes HUGE amounts of effort to do. You're right in that one piece of knowledge could change/save a life and you have a massive audience with a very large range of knowledge that you have to address. My apologies for sounding like an ungrateful spoiled brat and rest-assured, I will continue to watch every episode since I have learned a massive amount from you despite being into health and fitness myself for 4 decades! I really appreciate the high quality of your work.
@@sandeephunjan Well, I for myself, have you to thank for distilling the essence of the video down to that one succinct sentence because I was struggling to pull any distinct message out of the mass of information presented. It all sounded like a labyrinth of qualified statements that were dependent on other conditions. I ought to go back and see if there's a specific reason not to pig out on pork bellies AND pasta but I'm betting it boils down to; "Binge and you'll balloon!" XXX
Thomas absolutely love your videos. So Thomas in a nutshell for fat loss we need reduce the amount of times we eat through the day and eliminate eating carbs with fats.
I just want to say that bondie has come a long way since her first appearance on Tasha’s channel. I feel she has gotten her sea legs with the winos. Great job and look forward to your next show. Tasha if you read this she’s a keeper when you need a break 🎉.
The people bit"hing about "Thomas are stuck in X or Y" - seem to not have watched the video in full. The number one thing i took from this talk - avoid processed food, both fats and carbs because it might mess upp the bodys understanding of the calorie density. Regarding the "Randall cycle" - they literaly say that it's probably not the most important thing. The rest is more theory and discussions - high level ones i my opinon, because no one is telling you "the truth" but just give you theories, studies and conversation, and most of the time also give criticism to the same theories and studies. If you yourself are an 'absolutist' - it's easy to missunderstand others that speak in more realative terms...? Interesting video - I like Tommy Wood. 👍
I can confirm that when I can do exercise everyday and sleep during all night I can get away with almost every food. But when I start the season working nightshifts everything changes and I need to be very strict with sorts of food and meal timing. Not sleeping fully a night makes my hunger uncontrollable for the next days. Mark Sison can eat fractaly and intuitively because he is under the sun exercising every day. If he did nightshifts he would get sick very quick eating that way
From my own experience, I notice a shift in 3 ish days if I up my calories and lower my calories day to day. That being said, I am “a menstruating woman athlete “. It has nothing to do with sodium or water retention as I’m pretty regimented. The shift is subtle, no one else would notice it, but I do. So anyway, hope that helps anyone😊
had to 2x the speed ...Ok I get the gist, he's still stuck on the calories-in/calories-out archaic model. If your metabolism isn't functioning correctly or you can't digest certain types of foods, then the rigid caloric system isn't very useful.
They dont...@@fredrik7922if it's just calories... 2000 calories of oreos and 2000 calories of beef would be used and stored the exact same way...And allllllll know that is 100% false... it's way more complicated than calories in and out
@@fredrik7922But is that sentence helpful when calories in is an estimate and calorie expenditure is an unknown outside of lab conditions? It’s like answering any question about closed systems with E=MC^2.
the interview gives a pretty wrong impression about what is really going on. First, the Randle does not exist. There is no such metabolic thing as "glucose first, then fat". Randle himself, in 1964, stated that insulin is the primary agent regulating what will hapen with the energy. Second, insulin gets triggered by carbs, and as long as there is elevated insulin, the liver produces glycogen as a storage form f carbs, and if its storage facilities are full, it produces riglycerides that go into (V)LDL. AND it commands the fat cells to take up the glucose from the blood. ...if there is no insulin resistance. In healthy metabolically flexible persons under conditions where there is no direct urgent need for fast energy (after exercise etc), fat is the preferred energy source. If sick, = witht insulin resistance the game is anyway a completely different one. And then it certainly does not help for weight loss to reduce calories and sick with 90% carbs.
I have been eating a high fat low carb meal, then a HCLF meal, then another HCLF meal, then a HFLC meal to finish. Is that okay since the high carb meals and high fat meals are spaced 2 hours+ apart?
@@paulc5389 Because I have gut issues and there are only so many foods I can tolerate. Many foods I can only tolerate in certain limited amounts. And I need to eat a huge amount of daily calories in order to maintain my weight. Without rice and potatoes for example I would struggle to do so. I'm already eating such vast quantities of nuts/seeds and olive oil every day that it wouldn't be sensible to eat even more.
i dont want to watch the whole video, can somebody just tell me what potatos in the thumbnail has to do with this? im doing a diet and potatos are literally the reason why i can daily stick to my meat/veggie diet, without potatos i would find it super boring... i love potatos man!
@@mancunianinlondon i bake my potatos with a little bit of Olive oil.. or mashed pataos with a splash of nut milk, so good.. i avoid fried seed oils, will never eat them again...
Don't forget break Thomas. bread and alcohol, both have been around a very very long time. So you can add bread and wine to your your elk and grapes dinner :D
The subject must be important and interesting, but the method of conveying it with constant filler words, pausing mid-sentence, and broken sentences, I found very distracting and taking us away from the message.
Thomas I really like and appreciate your content. But one week you make a video saying energy gridlock is your secret. Then you ask an expert and he says it's not real and you agree but add a maybe in there. Just make up your mind, if you think it's real, disagree with the experts. If you don't, don't say it's your secret to being lean in other videos. Most experts you asked pretty much said it's not a real thing. Anyway, thank you for all the content, still love this channel. 😁
There is NO magic method or pill. Thomas is just bringing us more data from outside his world view to increase our collective understanding depending on personal health goals. There are no ACTUAL know-it-all experts (which Thomas Nevers claims to be himself), and since new data brings more and more light on nutrition. There are basics we can all take away ofc such as eating bags of candy, whole pizzas and sitting around is probably not so good for us. Go work out, appreciate the data, and don't let it get to you so much.
Thousands of years ago, that wild beast the hunting group just caught may well have been feeding from a fruit tree or berry bush just before it got caught. Hunters might work up an appetite, try some of the fruit, and if it's good, bring some for the trip home and to share. Later they and their children have fruit and cooked beast (carbs+fat+protein). Plausible possibility.
Would being in a higher flux state cause you to die sooner? I just look at it in the same way using a machine more is going to break it down faster. Is it wrong to think this way?
The study I saw seemed to suggest subjects had to go to extreme physical activity / "flux" before longevity got bad. (can't remember the study name, but a few searches for longevity vs physical activity could find it) If I recall, it was a bell-curve. 100% sedentary was very bad, longevity went up a lot when you had some exercise (which is how some government health department physical activity recommendations got the data from), then it got better longevity when you went into athletes. As you suspected, it started to go down as you added even more physical activity, but the curve was all the way into extreme cardio like ultra-marathon and pro triathletes before the drop-off. (As usual with those very long term studies, lots of things came into play given high activity could also mean a high-risk job like first responders or labourers lacking safety protocols in their workplace.)
It's interesting isn't it.. your scenario where you just killed an Elk and have a crap ton of berries to hand.. It seems that your body always wants to make hay whilst the sun shines. Theoretically I would imagine the body will always have a tendency towards doing what is deemed best by some natural yardstick, so the capacity for storing fats is always present to a degree since protection seems to be the byword in life and your microbiome has no crystal ball. It feels like the normal 'diet' approach as it's usually laid out is perceived as a punishment by the mind, whilst mindfully adopting a better nutrition plan (keto etc..) is basically facing your body down and saying "right, these are the pragmatic food choices I'm making and you'll have to get by accordingly". To that end using a better plan leaves you to focus on your exercise and a healthy degree of caloric restriction versus a "normal" menu where you're battling not only the caloric restriction but also the wax and wane, emotional and physiological chaos of healthy vs junk.
Look into FASTer Way. The premise is that we over exercise and we don’t eat enough. I’ve been starting the program and even though it’s contrary to everything I thought as an aerobics instructor, I feel I am finally starting to slowly lose fat, not pounds by 30 minute exercising and, eating more regularly, cutting out gluten dairy and sugar. Anyway, look it up FASTer Way.
What's Your height, total mass, pants size and body fat percentage? Mine is 195cm, 132kg, 40 & 20%. My goal is 110kg, 32 & 11%. Are You trying to lose fat, or total mass? I don't suggest ever trying to make Your total mass the goal, for why would one ever want less muscle or less skeletal density?!
"Majoring in the minors", awesome! :) To be harsh, that's most of what this channel is about frankly, but do get the model(not to mention Delauer even actually believes it, so honest). Anyway, regarding defecit lengths, then obviously not even a question if over a week is OK instead of day, asking that means you're severely confused to be frank. It's like a money/gas usage budget etc etc. Thanks for vid.
i have to say that this is the same bullshit again like in the 80s. back then, people talked about calories now they talk about the randle cycle and snacking and intermittent fasting bullshit. and still they ignore the satiety hormones that are the reason for people stuffing food in their mouth. we even see what it does when we inject an artificial incretin hormone - and @Thomas DeLauer know this hormone very well - people stop eating. so, the real question is, how can you switch within one second to stupid mode and say stupid things like snacking all the time when you EXACTLY KNOW that there are hormones in the body that decide how strong your cravings are. example: have you every been to an all you can eat running sushi place where you pay a fixed amount no matter how much you eat? have you eaten so much that you even feel nauseated? now my question: have you been able to snack one hour later??? no, of course not because the amount of satiety and incretin hormones are so overwhelming that you cant even think about food without even being disgusted. these hormones need to be fixed. because they are the ROOT CAUSE. the snacking is just a consequence of it and are a symptom. it is a correlation, not the cause. fuck, what a bullshit.
You ok? Just like you question my content (which I am good at creating), I question your need to announce your departure. That was rude and unnecessary. You’re complaining about free content on the internet. Pause and think about how odd and entitled that sounds.
The reason it was 50 minutes long is because his guest talks so SLOWLY, and it takes him half an hour to get to the point. IF he would speak at a normal Cadence, and get to the point quicker, we'd still get all the necessary information, and the video would be a reasonable length. Thomas must have paid him either by the minute, or the word; and he wanted to milk it for everything he could. Knowing how SLOWLY he speaks, Thomas should have told him before starting the video TO SPEAK at a quicker pace for the benefit, and comfort of his audience.
I let my guests be who they are. I’m not going to change a single thing about them. This dude is awesome at his work, and I’d rather he explain slow so that people get it. I get it though lol
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial I respect that. Just saying that if the viewers fall asleep before he gets to the point BECAUSE he speaks so slowly, then it kind of defeats the purpose. LOL I've watched and loved your content/videos since February 2018, and you've inspired and help me lose nearly 200 lbs, and lower my Hba1c from 18 - 22 to 4.8 - 5.8; so I really appreciate and value it. Thank You.
You didn't understand what the fallacy is. The fallacy is claiming that something is inherently good or superior only because it is natural. For example, a naturalistic fallacy would be claiming that cyanide is better for you than artificial sweeteners because it is natural.
@@frise6183 So your definition of "the naturalistic fallacy" is based on the reductio ad absurdum fallacy. No one is actually claiming that everything in nature is always good or better.
@@jdfreedomlover The fallacy is about claiming that something is good or better only because it is natural, not necessarilly everything. It has nothing to do with reduction, it applies when someone makes an argument following that description, which happens often. If you think nobody does it, you just haven't recognized it. Now that you know about it, you will be able to spot it. It's quite common, especially in discussions about nutrition. It's extremely common in arguments for the carnivore diet, for example. The term was popularized by academics that built careers on the topic of logic. To think that you know better than them about it, while demonstrating that you don't actually understand the fallacy, is a bit absurd honestly.
@@jussi3378 Didn't say it was. I said the naturalistic fallacy is a common argument for the carnivore diet. That doesn't mean that there aren't other arguments for it.
Good information, but OMG does this guy ever talk so S...L...O...W...L...Y. 🙄. It takes him half an hour to get to the point. It was hard not to fall asleep. Thomas talks in a normal cadence thankfully.
I don’t think I’ve ever really discussed this. Nothing but kindness when I say this, but is there a chance that it’s a bit complex and maybe it’s just blending into one topic for you even though there’s nuance? This is a pretty advanced channel.
It's not the complexity of the video, or the content, but rather the fact that your guest talks so freakin SLOWLY, and it takes him half an hour to get to the point, which makes it difficult not to doze off before he makes it which makes it extremely hard to concentrate and absorb the information. Especially when some of it IS rather complex. @ThomasDeLauerOfficial
### Key Insights from "Fat Loss Scientist Reveals What Makes Us Gain Fat Easier Than Anything Else (and How to Lose It)" **Introduction:** The article explores how the combination of fats and carbohydrates in meals can impact fat storage, with a focus on the Randle cycle, a metabolic process that may affect the body’s ability to efficiently use fuel when high amounts of both macronutrients are consumed simultaneously. **Metabolic Gridlock:** People with excess fat often struggle with metabolic flexibility, making it difficult for them to switch between using fats and carbohydrates as energy sources. Restricting one macronutrient (like in low-carb or low-fat diets) can support fat loss by reducing overall calorie intake. Modern diets high in refined fats and carbohydrates may lead to overeating due to the body’s poor adaptation to these energy-dense foods. **Constant Grazing:** When fats and carbohydrates are consumed together, the body prioritizes using glucose for energy while storing fat. Constant eating without significant breaks can lead to a continuous supply of glucose and fat, increasing the likelihood of fat storage. Ultra-processed foods, which are rich in both refined carbs and fats, can cause rapid spikes in blood sugar and disrupt normal hunger cues, leading to excessive calorie intake. **Eating & Circadian Cues:** The effectiveness of time-restricted feeding for fat loss is not significantly greater than regular eating patterns. However, maintaining consistent meal times can help mitigate the metabolic disruptions caused by irregular schedules, such as shift work. When other circadian cues like sleep and light exposure are strong, the timing of meals becomes less crucial for fat loss. **Calorie Intake Over Time:** Fat loss or gain is determined by calorie balance over extended periods, such as a week or two. The body’s appetite regulation system, when functioning properly, adjusts food intake after periods of high calorie consumption to maintain balance. This calorie integration period might be shorter for women, especially athletes, affecting their menstrual cycle. **How Quickly Do You Store Fat:** It’s possible to gain several pounds of fat over two to four weeks by consuming a daily surplus of 1,000 calories. However, gaining a significant amount of fat in a single day is unlikely due to factors like absorption limits and gastrointestinal constraints. **Constrained Energy Model:** This model suggests that as physical activity increases, the body compensates by lowering basal metabolic rate to maintain a certain energy expenditure threshold. However, discrepancies in measuring energy expenditure, particularly in highly active individuals, suggest that the model may not fully account for adaptations in those with high energy demands. **Eat as Much as Possible Until You Start to Gain Fat:** Highly active individuals who are not losing weight but experience symptoms of energy deficit may benefit from slightly increasing their caloric intake. A moderate increase in activity, such as walking more, can also allow for higher calorie consumption while maintaining or improving metabolic health. **Conclusion:** Understanding the interplay between diet, metabolic flexibility, and lifestyle factors is crucial for effective fat loss. While calorie balance remains fundamental, individual adaptations, the timing of food intake, and the quality of diet all play significant roles. By tailoring strategies to personal circumstances, one can optimize fat loss and overall metabolic health.
I like when Thomas does a conclusion at the end with all the main points. Then people have the option to watch as much as they feel they need to and then see the conclusion.
My short insight into this topic is that not all calories are created equal. I can eat 3500 calories a day of lean meats and fats, and as long as I'm working out and being active, I can gain muscle and lose fat. I can eat the same amount of carbs and shit food and gain fat like crazy. I believe in a calorie deficit and timing your macro intake for the most part - but everyone's body chemistry, and how we metabolize certain foods are different. My body is carb/sugar sensitive. I feel amazing just eating meats and fats. Bottom line, calorie intake isn't the main factor. The types of calories you ingest play the biggest role.
I found this extremely helpful as someone whose job has destroyed my circadian rhythm.
@@JaneSaidWhy same
I’m so guilty of socially jet lag. Who wants to get up at 4am on a Saturday though?
I'm currently staying in France for 3 months with friends and family so I get to see how they eat on an average day. Every meal is carbs and fats together but they don't overeat calories
He mentions we tend to overeat foods that are carb and fat combinations. Think caramel latte, donuts, French fries, ice cream, potato chip type foods. My understanding is the French eat more balanced meals with protein and more vegetables ,except maybe breakfast. I saw a woman showing the menu for French school and it was much healthier than ours. I’d love to hear what you are seeing.
@@Tsili-Walela today I had lunch with my mother in law and what a fat/carb bomb it was. Entrée was foie gras with brioche bread and white wine. Main meal was Toulouse sausage and scalloped potatoes with cream. Everyone wiped their plates clean with baguette. Then they had cheese and more baguette. Finally it was raspberry tart and coffee. Barely any protein or vegetables
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I appreciate a good captain obvious
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Lol love that too!!
Don't let the negative comments discourage you. This is a most interesting topic and I'd really like more discussions about it. Carbs and fats at the same time is one of my biggest questions at the moment. The Sardinians seem to eat a lot of bread with olive oil, but they exercise a lot in their farms after eating. That seems to curb the glycemic spike and duration, resulting in longer lifespans.
Pretty simple, mixing dependent on food sources as to the damage or rate of digestion and a long period should be taken after a meal … problem is we have mixes of energy now with fast digestion and people eating all day with no finite gaps
@@truthbomb5352 Consuming oil along with carbs will prevent a spike, but will cause blood sugar to stay high for hours if one doesn't exercise a lot after. Sardinians also eat a lot of raw fresh greens called curda from their farms through the day. Simply not eating isn't enough.
I prefer 3 square meals per day; in my family there were no snacks. I don’t want to think about food all day; I prefer to eat enough at each meal that I have no hunger for at least 4-5 hours. I tried intermittent fasting 18/6 but it worked out more like 16/8. It wasn’t hard but it just did nothing in terms of fat loss.
I eliminated soda 40 years ago; seed oils 15 years ago, and have not really eaten a SAD diet in life as an adult.
Last October I gave up sweets, and my bloodwork significantly improved, but I can’t seem to lose the 30-35 lb I’d like to lose.
I eat a primarily animal-based meal, but more like Dr. Saladino ( with fewer fruits). I dislike most veg, so keto is not in the running.
Actually counting calories might work, but I don’t want to bother.
I’ll figure it out eventually. I probably need to eat more fish (not a fan) and walk more. My gym workouts have firmed me up considerably, but I might lose a pound twice a year.
BTW, even the explanation of the double-water thing is absolutely opaque-way over my head. Is this a thing only used in research? If so, how relevant is it to your listeners?
Just fast 20 hours a day. Eat clean protein, clean vegetables and nuts 😋
I listened to this twice and the only thing I got out of it was don't eat large amounts of carbs and fats together . I couldn't get any addition info out of this.
With all due respect, if you got one thing out of this that could change your life, isn’t it worth it? This is a detailed explanation as to HOW and WHY this happens. Damn, if I had known this 15 years ago I wouldn’t have ended up 300lbs.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial Thank you for the response Thomas. I never a miss an episode of your channel because it is so good - you basically spoil us with massive amounts of complicated information broken down into understandable chunks FOR FREE, which obviously takes HUGE amounts of effort to do. You're right in that one piece of knowledge could change/save a life and you have a massive audience with a very large range of knowledge that you have to address. My apologies for sounding like an ungrateful spoiled brat and rest-assured, I will continue to watch every episode since I have learned a massive amount from you despite being into health and fitness myself for 4 decades! I really appreciate the high quality of your work.
Appreciate the kind reply. I get it man. My reply was with positive tone. Just wanted you to see the perspective
@@sandeephunjan Well, I for myself, have you to thank for distilling the essence of the video down to that one succinct sentence because I was struggling to pull any distinct message out of the mass of information presented. It all sounded like a labyrinth of qualified statements that were dependent on other conditions. I ought to go back and see if there's a specific reason not to pig out on pork bellies AND pasta but I'm betting it boils down to; "Binge and you'll balloon!" XXX
Thomas absolutely love your videos. So Thomas in a nutshell for fat loss we need reduce the amount of times we eat through the day and eliminate eating carbs with fats.
I just want to say that bondie has come a long way since her first appearance on Tasha’s channel. I feel she has gotten her sea legs with the winos. Great job and look forward to your next show. Tasha if you read this she’s a keeper when you need a break 🎉.
fascinating! I appreciate this,
The people bit"hing about "Thomas are stuck in X or Y" - seem to not have watched the video in full.
The number one thing i took from this talk - avoid processed food, both fats and carbs because it might mess upp the bodys understanding of the calorie density.
Regarding the "Randall cycle" - they literaly say that it's probably not the most important thing.
The rest is more theory and discussions - high level ones i my opinon, because no one is telling you "the truth" but just give you theories, studies and conversation, and most of the time also give criticism to the same theories and studies.
If you yourself are an 'absolutist' - it's easy to missunderstand others that speak in more realative terms...?
Interesting video - I like Tommy Wood. 👍
I can confirm that when I can do exercise everyday and sleep during all night I can get away with almost every food. But when I start the season working nightshifts everything changes and I need to be very strict with sorts of food and meal timing. Not sleeping fully a night makes my hunger uncontrollable for the next days. Mark Sison can eat fractaly and intuitively because he is under the sun exercising every day. If he did nightshifts he would get sick very quick eating that way
👌Looking forward to this!
How to easelly measure fat gain/level?
Loads of assumptions. I would point people to your discussion with Dr Bikman for some genuine science and advice.
I eat carbs and fats together I had 38 yeas and 6 packs.
Don't complicate stuff to people. I train and do from time to time prolonged fasting.
Still not addressing the other foundations of weight and appetite 😢😢😢
From my own experience, I notice a shift in 3 ish days if I up my calories and lower my calories day to day. That being said, I am “a menstruating woman athlete “. It has nothing to do with sodium or water retention as I’m pretty regimented. The shift is subtle, no one else would notice it, but I do. So anyway, hope that helps anyone😊
What kind of shift ? Like more fat loss?
Thank you.
had to 2x the speed ...Ok I get the gist, he's still stuck on the calories-in/calories-out archaic model. If your metabolism isn't functioning correctly or you can't digest certain types of foods, then the rigid caloric system isn't very useful.
Calories in and expenditure decides weight.
Thank you for sharing. I’m so tired of forever going through these diet postings and getting nothing but “false hope.” Have a blessed day.
There's nothing "archaic." Concepts got held on to by society because they work.
They dont...@@fredrik7922if it's just calories... 2000 calories of oreos and 2000 calories of beef would be used and stored the exact same way...And allllllll know that is 100% false... it's way more complicated than calories in and out
@@fredrik7922But is that sentence helpful when calories in is an estimate and calorie expenditure is an unknown outside of lab conditions?
It’s like answering any question about closed systems with E=MC^2.
It's pretty simple. Lack of movement, exercise, walking.
What if you’re doing OMAD and want to have healthy fats such as salmon or eggs or avocado as well as sweet potato or squash in your diet? Is that bad?
The only thing that counts is, what food makes you over or undereat most easily. Anything else is just noise.
I call it weekend jet lag, easier to understand than social jet lag.
the interview gives a pretty wrong impression about what is really going on. First, the Randle does not exist. There is no such metabolic thing as "glucose first, then fat". Randle himself, in 1964, stated that insulin is the primary agent regulating what will hapen with the energy. Second, insulin gets triggered by carbs, and as long as there is elevated insulin, the liver produces glycogen as a storage form f carbs, and if its storage facilities are full, it produces riglycerides that go into (V)LDL. AND it commands the fat cells to take up the glucose from the blood. ...if there is no insulin resistance. In healthy metabolically flexible persons under conditions where there is no direct urgent need for fast energy (after exercise etc), fat is the preferred energy source. If sick, = witht insulin resistance the game is anyway a completely different one. And then it certainly does not help for weight loss to reduce calories and sick with 90% carbs.
Serious question. WHY should I believe what you just wrote? Do you have actual credibility?
I have been eating a high fat low carb meal, then a HCLF meal, then another HCLF meal, then a HFLC meal to finish. Is that okay since the high carb meals and high fat meals are spaced 2 hours+ apart?
I think meal fats peak at ~4 hr after meals (based when people that experience angina).
@@paulc5389 Because I have gut issues and there are only so many foods I can tolerate. Many foods I can only tolerate in certain limited amounts. And I need to eat a huge amount of daily calories in order to maintain my weight. Without rice and potatoes for example I would struggle to do so. I'm already eating such vast quantities of nuts/seeds and olive oil every day that it wouldn't be sensible to eat even more.
i dont want to watch the whole video, can somebody just tell me what potatos in the thumbnail has to do with this? im doing a diet and potatos are literally the reason why i can daily stick to my meat/veggie diet, without potatos i would find it super boring... i love potatos man!
It’s not the potatoes. We talk about the combination of high fat and high carb/starch
This was definitely worth listening to. I listened twice...the second time I upped the speed.
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial ahh thanks:)
high fat and high carb at the same time is not a good choice to stay in shape ")
@@adidkjf there you go, don't eat fries
@@mancunianinlondon i bake my potatos with a little bit of Olive oil.. or mashed pataos with a splash of nut milk, so good.. i avoid fried seed oils, will never eat them again...
Next Halloween consider going as Gollum from Lord of the Rings.
It had a good effect
Don't forget break Thomas. bread and alcohol, both have been around a very very long time. So you can add bread and wine to your your elk and grapes dinner :D
Can the swallowing be quieted...
The subject must be important and interesting, but the method of conveying it with constant filler words, pausing mid-sentence, and broken sentences, I found very distracting and taking us away from the message.
Thomas I really like and appreciate your content.
But one week you make a video saying energy gridlock is your secret. Then you ask an expert and he says it's not real and you agree but add a maybe in there.
Just make up your mind, if you think it's real, disagree with the experts. If you don't, don't say it's your secret to being lean in other videos. Most experts you asked pretty much said it's not a real thing.
Anyway, thank you for all the content, still love this channel. 😁
There is NO magic method or pill. Thomas is just bringing us more data from outside his world view to increase our collective understanding depending on personal health goals. There are no ACTUAL know-it-all experts (which Thomas Nevers claims to be himself), and since new data brings more and more light on nutrition. There are basics we can all take away ofc such as eating bags of candy, whole pizzas and sitting around is probably not so good for us.
Go work out, appreciate the data, and don't let it get to you so much.
Wouldn't eating sea food count as a high fat diet lots of cultures love off mostly sea food diet for a long time
Sea food fats are very different from the fats of sick cattle fed corn and grains, or chickens fed grains and corn
Thousands of years ago, that wild beast the hunting group just caught may well have been feeding from a fruit tree or berry bush just before it got caught. Hunters might work up an appetite, try some of the fruit, and if it's good, bring some for the trip home and to share. Later they and their children have fruit and cooked beast (carbs+fat+protein). Plausible possibility.
Would being in a higher flux state cause you to die sooner? I just look at it in the same way using a machine more is going to break it down faster. Is it wrong to think this way?
The study I saw seemed to suggest subjects had to go to extreme physical activity / "flux" before longevity got bad.
(can't remember the study name, but a few searches for longevity vs physical activity could find it)
If I recall, it was a bell-curve. 100% sedentary was very bad, longevity went up a lot when you had some exercise (which is how some government health department physical activity recommendations got the data from), then it got better longevity when you went into athletes. As you suspected, it started to go down as you added even more physical activity, but the curve was all the way into extreme cardio like ultra-marathon and pro triathletes before the drop-off.
(As usual with those very long term studies, lots of things came into play given high activity could also mean a high-risk job like first responders or labourers lacking safety protocols in their workplace.)
It's interesting isn't it.. your scenario where you just killed an Elk and have a crap ton of berries to hand.. It seems that your body always wants to make hay whilst the sun shines. Theoretically I would imagine the body will always have a tendency towards doing what is deemed best by some natural yardstick, so the capacity for storing fats is always present to a degree since protection seems to be the byword in life and your microbiome has no crystal ball. It feels like the normal 'diet' approach as it's usually laid out is perceived as a punishment by the mind, whilst mindfully adopting a better nutrition plan (keto etc..) is basically facing your body down and saying "right, these are the pragmatic food choices I'm making and you'll have to get by accordingly". To that end using a better plan leaves you to focus on your exercise and a healthy degree of caloric restriction versus a "normal" menu where you're battling not only the caloric restriction but also the wax and wane, emotional and physiological chaos of healthy vs junk.
I walk 13 miles a day and I work out 5 days a week. I have trouble losing weight
Look into FASTer Way. The premise is that we over exercise and we don’t eat enough. I’ve been starting the program and even though it’s contrary to everything I thought as an aerobics instructor, I feel I am finally starting to slowly lose fat, not pounds by 30 minute exercising and, eating more regularly, cutting out gluten dairy and sugar. Anyway, look it up FASTer Way.
What's Your height, total mass, pants size and body fat percentage?
Mine is 195cm, 132kg, 40 & 20%.
My goal is 110kg, 32 & 11%.
Are You trying to lose fat, or total mass? I don't suggest ever trying to make Your total mass the goal, for why would one ever want less muscle or less skeletal density?!
You might have high cortisol
are you fat or obese?
How well are you sleeping?
"Majoring in the minors", awesome! :) To be harsh, that's most of what this channel is about frankly, but do get the model(not to mention Delauer even actually believes it, so honest). Anyway, regarding defecit lengths, then obviously not even a question if over a week is OK instead of day, asking that means you're severely confused to be frank. It's like a money/gas usage budget etc etc. Thanks for vid.
i have to say that this is the same bullshit again like in the 80s.
back then, people talked about calories now they talk about the randle cycle and snacking and intermittent fasting bullshit.
and still they ignore the satiety hormones that are the reason for people stuffing food in their mouth. we even see what it does when we inject an artificial incretin hormone - and @Thomas DeLauer know this hormone very well - people stop eating.
so, the real question is, how can you switch within one second to stupid mode and say stupid things like snacking all the time when you EXACTLY KNOW that there are hormones in the body that decide how strong your cravings are.
example: have you every been to an all you can eat running sushi place where you pay a fixed amount no matter how much you eat?
have you eaten so much that you even feel nauseated?
now my question: have you been able to snack one hour later??? no, of course not because the amount of satiety and incretin hormones are so overwhelming that you cant even think about food without even being disgusted.
these hormones need to be fixed. because they are the ROOT CAUSE. the snacking is just a consequence of it and are a symptom. it is a correlation, not the cause.
fuck, what a bullshit.
Yep. It’s all the same regurgitated reworded BS
LMNT chocolate/caramel tastes horrible
why was this 50 min long? Could have been said in 16 min. Won’t be coming back to this channel
You ok? Just like you question my content (which I am good at creating), I question your need to announce your departure. That was rude and unnecessary. You’re complaining about free content on the internet. Pause and think about how odd and entitled that sounds.
The reason it was 50 minutes long is because his guest talks so SLOWLY, and it takes him half an hour to get to the point. IF he would speak at a normal Cadence, and get to the point quicker, we'd still get all the necessary information, and the video would be a reasonable length.
Thomas must have paid him either by the minute, or the word; and he wanted to milk it for everything he could.
Knowing how SLOWLY he speaks, Thomas should have told him before starting the video TO SPEAK at a quicker pace for the benefit, and comfort of his audience.
I let my guests be who they are. I’m not going to change a single thing about them. This dude is awesome at his work, and I’d rather he explain slow so that people get it. I get it though lol
@@ThomasDeLauerOfficial I respect that. Just saying that if the viewers fall asleep before he gets to the point BECAUSE he speaks so slowly, then it kind of defeats the purpose. LOL
I've watched and loved your content/videos since February 2018, and you've inspired and help me lose nearly 200 lbs, and lower my Hba1c from 18 - 22 to 4.8 - 5.8; so I really appreciate and value it. Thank You.
Do you know how to get rid of skin conditions, like psoriasis, for good?
The "naturalistic fallacy" sounds like something invented by someone who thinks they can outsmart nature.
You didn't understand what the fallacy is. The fallacy is claiming that something is inherently good or superior only because it is natural. For example, a naturalistic fallacy would be claiming that cyanide is better for you than artificial sweeteners because it is natural.
@@frise6183 So your definition of "the naturalistic fallacy" is based on the reductio ad absurdum fallacy. No one is actually claiming that everything in nature is always good or better.
@@jdfreedomlover The fallacy is about claiming that something is good or better only because it is natural, not necessarilly everything. It has nothing to do with reduction, it applies when someone makes an argument following that description, which happens often. If you think nobody does it, you just haven't recognized it. Now that you know about it, you will be able to spot it. It's quite common, especially in discussions about nutrition. It's extremely common in arguments for the carnivore diet, for example.
The term was popularized by academics that built careers on the topic of logic. To think that you know better than them about it, while demonstrating that you don't actually understand the fallacy, is a bit absurd honestly.
Appealing to evolutionary diet isn't the same as naturalistic fallacy however
@@jussi3378 Didn't say it was. I said the naturalistic fallacy is a common argument for the carnivore diet. That doesn't mean that there aren't other arguments for it.
Good information, but OMG does this guy ever talk so S...L...O...W...L...Y. 🙄. It takes him half an hour to get to the point. It was hard not to fall asleep. Thomas talks in a normal cadence thankfully.
I feel like he talks about this exact thing 2-3x per week lol
I don’t think I’ve ever really discussed this. Nothing but kindness when I say this, but is there a chance that it’s a bit complex and maybe it’s just blending into one topic for you even though there’s nuance? This is a pretty advanced channel.
It's not the complexity of the video, or the content, but rather the fact that your guest talks so freakin SLOWLY, and it takes him half an hour to get to the point, which makes it difficult not to doze off before he makes it which makes it extremely hard to concentrate and absorb the information. Especially when some of it IS rather complex. @ThomasDeLauerOfficial
Breast milk is the fat sugar combo we all needed to survive at all
Carbs + Fats in *milk* - not necessarily appropriate to adult humans.
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### Key Insights from "Fat Loss Scientist Reveals What Makes Us Gain Fat Easier Than Anything Else (and How to Lose It)"
**Introduction:**
The article explores how the combination of fats and carbohydrates in meals can impact fat storage, with a focus on the Randle cycle, a metabolic process that may affect the body’s ability to efficiently use fuel when high amounts of both macronutrients are consumed simultaneously.
**Metabolic Gridlock:**
People with excess fat often struggle with metabolic flexibility, making it difficult for them to switch between using fats and carbohydrates as energy sources. Restricting one macronutrient (like in low-carb or low-fat diets) can support fat loss by reducing overall calorie intake. Modern diets high in refined fats and carbohydrates may lead to overeating due to the body’s poor adaptation to these energy-dense foods.
**Constant Grazing:**
When fats and carbohydrates are consumed together, the body prioritizes using glucose for energy while storing fat. Constant eating without significant breaks can lead to a continuous supply of glucose and fat, increasing the likelihood of fat storage. Ultra-processed foods, which are rich in both refined carbs and fats, can cause rapid spikes in blood sugar and disrupt normal hunger cues, leading to excessive calorie intake.
**Eating & Circadian Cues:**
The effectiveness of time-restricted feeding for fat loss is not significantly greater than regular eating patterns. However, maintaining consistent meal times can help mitigate the metabolic disruptions caused by irregular schedules, such as shift work. When other circadian cues like sleep and light exposure are strong, the timing of meals becomes less crucial for fat loss.
**Calorie Intake Over Time:**
Fat loss or gain is determined by calorie balance over extended periods, such as a week or two. The body’s appetite regulation system, when functioning properly, adjusts food intake after periods of high calorie consumption to maintain balance. This calorie integration period might be shorter for women, especially athletes, affecting their menstrual cycle.
**How Quickly Do You Store Fat:**
It’s possible to gain several pounds of fat over two to four weeks by consuming a daily surplus of 1,000 calories. However, gaining a significant amount of fat in a single day is unlikely due to factors like absorption limits and gastrointestinal constraints.
**Constrained Energy Model:**
This model suggests that as physical activity increases, the body compensates by lowering basal metabolic rate to maintain a certain energy expenditure threshold. However, discrepancies in measuring energy expenditure, particularly in highly active individuals, suggest that the model may not fully account for adaptations in those with high energy demands.
**Eat as Much as Possible Until You Start to Gain Fat:**
Highly active individuals who are not losing weight but experience symptoms of energy deficit may benefit from slightly increasing their caloric intake. A moderate increase in activity, such as walking more, can also allow for higher calorie consumption while maintaining or improving metabolic health.
**Conclusion:**
Understanding the interplay between diet, metabolic flexibility, and lifestyle factors is crucial for effective fat loss. While calorie balance remains fundamental, individual adaptations, the timing of food intake, and the quality of diet all play significant roles. By tailoring strategies to personal circumstances, one can optimize fat loss and overall metabolic health.
Thanks for the Cliff Notes.