Thrustmaster T-GT 2 - Viperconcept's Review
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Here's my review of the T-GT II, comparing it with the older model to understand better the update of this new steering wheel. Enjoy! :D
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I was literally just on your 1st tg-t review
Lol
"we have different faces, but inside, we are same-same, same-same but different, but still same"
Still same same
I knew someone was going to comment with this 😂
Thank you very much for this early test. I am still in love for years with the Depth Feedback in GT Sport from my „old“ T-GT. It ist a Great wheel. The only thing i am missing is support for the Depth Feedback in PC games or other PlayStation Games like Assetto Corsa etc.
@The Insufferable Tool you got proof of that? cuz gran turismo is literally the only game that has ever used the transducer for me
So they spent 23,000 hours (2.62 years) of engineering on the T-GT 2 for a slight improvement?
I smell marketing lies
what did Logitech do with G923.
All I want to know is the price difference
@@joei4ever Same thing. Incremental improvement for way more money. Only logitech didn't claim it took them 23000 hours to achieve.
thanks for your honest review, i will keep my T-GT 👍
Well as a thrustmaster fan I felt let down. I saw Fanatec coming up with a nice direct base at a very good price point, then I was waiting for thrustmaster to answer but... Nothing new, at least at this price point the tlcm was a must on the pack but they didn't even did this.
It would be a good choice if you came from a t300 or less, but if you already have a t-gt then it's not worth buying it
Although this video is a year old , I still chose the tgt2 over their new dd.
I got my g29 + shifter yesterday i'm so excited, it arrives tomorrow
good for you...
if i get good marks in these exams, im getting a G29 plus shifter..
im excited to use it for assetto and pc2 plus other games
alredy on a grind to study 😆
@@speedhunter7497 leeet's gooo, come on you will make it
@@SimonePavano thxx man
Nice
I have a g920 so I can tell, you'll need some time to familiarize with the brake pedals (they're very hard)
But anyway it's a nice wheel! You're gonna enjoy it a lot!
I struggle to think of who this is for. If you have the money for this then you have enough to get a Direct Drive wheel which is better in every way. When Logitech brought out the G923 people felt it was too similar to the G920, this T-GT 2 is so similar to the T-GT it's disappointing. They should have included the T-LCM's at the very least. I have to disagree that including them would kill the T-LCM sales as there are a lot of people that buy T-LCM's for other wheels. I had a T-GT for 2 years and only just sold it a couple of months ago when I move to a Simagic M10. I really enjoyed my T-GT while I had it but with DD wheels coming down in price why would anyone buy this?
Most of the people on PS4/PS5 play GT sport. ACC has better physics/ffb but playerbase is almost non existant on console. In GT sport TG-T is better than CSL elite because of its feautures that wheel support, you can feel everything much more than fanatec wheel. For every other game Fanatec is better.
basically someone in the thrustmaster ecosystem whos on playstation (has a shifter already, maybe a wheel rim or two additional). i dont think ill ever get rid of my t300 as im not super serious about sim racing, but the big thing is: i crave more feedback response and force
As someone eagerly awaiting his back ordered t-gt II to arrive I'll gladly explain who this is for. People exactly like me.
A) I don't have the space for a normal rig. I have a foldable rig. And a dd is likely going to be too much for it to handle. In fact the tgt might even be pushing it a hair.
B) csl dd hasn't arrived that's compatible with the playstation 5.
But wait, there's adapters for that.
C) csl may be cheap, but add up the boost kit, plus wheel and pedals and even I you go cheapest available your at the same price point as the TGT II. A decent wheel jumps from 200 for "budget" wheels like the mclaren gt3 which is a formula style wheel or the wrc rally wheel up to 350 for a decent wheel. You want to take the step up on pedals it jumps from 100 to 250.
I'm not looking to by entry level fanatec, I'm looking at top of the line thrustmaster.
I think the thing that makes the most sense is this (from a reasonable point of view, not these people that decide to go whole hog and drop 3k+ on their rig from the get go):
When you start sim racing, you choose an eco system. You begin with what's in your budget. My case it was the t150. Next step is upgrading until I'm at the top of the line with thrustmaster. Then when I have the time, money and space, I'll upgrade my actual rig, buy a gaming computer, upgrade video set up and the cherry on top will be the full suite of fanatec, and other high end bits and bobbles. (I really like the heusinkveld pedal sets). The big thing to remember is that everyone has a reason they buy what they buy. I'm sure there are plenty of other circumstances that make sense for purchasing this wheel instead.
I will agree that they should have included the T-LCMs. But even then, just buy servo base+wheel, then buy the LCMs separately.
I'll also counter my argument and bolster yours by agreeing that yes, thrustmaster should absolutely have done more to upgrade from one to the other. Maybe not necessarily Direct drive which has been hinted at for literal years on the message boards,but they certainly could have done more. However, I have a sneeking suspicion that once it's paired to GT7, it's gonna separate itself from the original TGT
@@user-hx3vp2vp7v aaaand now we have the fanatec gt dd pro which works wonders with GT sport.
@@timduncan2211 yeah this must be hard to see,. I'm stuck between waiting till march to get one at a reasonable price or pay the extra 150£ for one sooner. Or get one of these tgt2 for 200£ less but I wonder why is the seller selling it in the first place. I understand they upgraded but surely for a reason
I can't wait to see the new, more expensive version of the TS-PC with silver details.
So the biggest complaint of the TGT was the wheel diameter only being 28 cm. So what do they do? Keep it the same.
"It it ain't broken, don't fix it". Or so they say...
@@krazycharlie 30cm would be optimal at this power, it would distinguish the first and the 2nd version nicely at almost no cost
Isn't it part of the eco system? I've got full size sparco wheels on my t300? Can't you just get a different wheel ? Only prob you'll lose all the buttons and sticks
@@youngstadan4999 there is no 30cm wheel apart from t500 without paddles. Only 32 cm suede sold separately, for which you should use gloves. 28 makes sense only for old formulas ECT 30 is more universal and still very lightweight. I had to make a wheel on my own (PC only) cause u hate driving on gloves in the summer and needed a bigger wheel.
@@youngstadan4999 such 30cm TGT wheel would fit nicely in the whole line up...or at least they could make something like universal hub like Fanatec to install your own wheel to the electronics and paddles
I began with keyb. , later with a simple wheel with some problems, and now I have a TMX, feels great.
Wait... Thrustmaster will finally sell separately the tgt2 servo base with the steering wheel and the pedals?
fanatec dd csl > whatever the new TM wheel is
I used to use the Logitech G923, but I wanted the T-GT, but this was only a few months ago, and I couldn't find it for the right price anywhere. Currently I use the T-300, T-LCM, and TH8A, but I plan to get the T-GT 2.
Why is video quality and sound bad?
video rendering issues...
Viperconcept: "it smells like paper box". Surely, you weren't expecting it to smell like baguette, were you?
Just got my G29 and that must be awesome!
so where can i find it? its not listed any where.
Man, the camera flickers a lot, lower the refresh rate to 50 instead of 60hz, it will help
Maybe the light is fluorescent...
@@alejandromartintierno5083 yeah, reduced framerate can match it and eliminate it
Had to turn away, and just listen. Was painful to watch.
How do i do that?
@@samuelss5238 through the camera settings, shutter speed.
Thank you for this review! It's worth upgrading from a T300 to this TGT II?. The T300 is a good servo base but sometimes it lacks detail and force on different games plus overheating issues.
Nice honest review as always.
I have a T300 and several rims also the T-LCM pedals and the TH8A shifter, would it be a notable upgrade in FFB and experience to buy the TGT 2 servo when it gets released at the end of the year ?
Man it would be a massive upgrade.
Yes it would. T300 great but the tgt2 is a noteable improvement. I’ve used both.
@@steveybiggunzgaming8118 😂 you’re not wrong, I ended up buying one on release and I love it !
The question would be, if you have the T-GT base (with T-LCM), would you upgrade only the base to the T-GT2 base? Do you feel the Force Feedback is more powerful on T-GT2?
Not more powerful.
It's slightly more precise, that's the difference.
@@viperconcept Thanks. What would you say honestly? Keep the T-GT or upgrade to T-GT2?
@@giogamer4825 I've watched a ton of reviews, and almost all of them say the same thing. If you are looking to upgrade from a t300 or t150, it's a massive step forward. But unless you are looking to burn money just to have the latest and greatest, going from a tgt to tgt ii isn't worth the price.
#YopLesPilotes !
Thrustmaster vocabulary :
Here is the all new T-TTTTTTTTTTTT 😂
I was thinking about investing in the T-GT. Here in Brazil it’s possible to buy in retail stores despite the expensive price. The goal was Fanatec or other DDs if possible. But that’s on grey market area. That T-GT II might be on my main setup in the future. Thanks for the video, Viper 🤌🏼🤣
Such a problem living in a country all these beauties are such expensive. Lol.
@@leandrosouza9875 just Brazilian problems. 🤣
@@yourbraziliansimracer817 i'm still thinking If i lose one kidney with the g29 or both with the t300 Rs.
@@leandrosouza9875 I’ve got a g29 now for a year. No regrets despite the noises. But I’ll be honest: if I had the money I totally would upgrade. Not that the g29 is a bad wheel but it could be better, you know?
Software drivers for future versions of Windows are as important as the reliability and longevity of the hardware. My Logitech racing wheel was used very little and is currently in the storage room, because the company stopped updating their drivers and currently don't support either Windows 10 or 11. It's a USB device, the drivers should never have become obsolete and/or Logitech should never allow their products to become useless due to lack of updated software drivers.
Anybody with a brain will buy the CSL DD over this
Well this is ment for PS users..:D
I am joking ;)
Not sure you'd even need a brain to come to this conclusion...
@@RacingAnt true
Absolutely not true some people have the entire thrustmatser eco system some people are sponsored by thrustmaster I know many competitive racers even not sponsored that would still choose thrustmaster as that's what they are used to I hope yoy realize that there is more to this then just the wheelbase I know very loyal people with thrustnatser products that have tried switching to fanstrc and just don't like it as much me sure I would choose fanatec dd but I know people that wouldn't lol you would believe it but there are many people that enjoy the dampening and cogging of the thrustmaster wheel bases due to the fact they are used to it I've had so many people try my cswv2.5 coming from thrustnaster that just don't like it as much and as we are hearing the latest 5nm-8nm dd base feels very similar to the cswv2.5 of course a bit more direct so a bit more detail and a bit quicker but yeah just saying it's all about preference I don't get why they would get hated on or be told they don't have a brain when clearly they can like what they want to and it may be the smarter choice for them if they have been with thrustmaster for years
@@reviewforthetube6485 yeah, obviously anyone with a stack of Thrustmaster gear would buy this, but not if they already had a high-end Thrustmaster wheelbase, as it's not really worth the upgrade. Same as nobody with a Logitech g29 would buy a G923. So, the market really is limited to T300 owners who already have a couple of rims looking to upgrade.
Hey viperconcept will you consider exchange to fanatec csl dd if it comes out a ps4/ps5 version? Just my option, I think thrustmaster only has competitive on the lower end product like t300rs right now if they don't come out some cheap dd option.
T-GT 2: simracing boogaloo
It's amazing for GT Sport, my old G29 has had its day and I've always wanted a TGT. Unfortunately it was nowhere to be found and I would like to take it because now is avalaible but I think the new DD Drive Fanatec is the future, the TGT II is definitely tested, the other is a new product. In the next few days I will decide what to do. Thank you for rewiew
The new csl DD setup will cost you about $1400 when its all configured with wheel, pedals, shifters, etc..
@@abuelb I think about 700/750 eu base+wheel+pedals
@@maurogt5084 us dollar wise its about $1400 even with discounts. I have the configuration in my wishlist fanatec website. I'm hesitant to pull the trigger to buy. Availability for shipping is November.
@@abuelb You can literally get the whole package (WRC Rim, CSL Pedals and this include the boost kit) for just over 700 dollars before shipping and taxes. The discount is also applied for me too. Where did you get 1400 dollars from?
@@abuelb Where did you get that $1400 from?
The csl DD 8nm version is €480
The wrc or the Mclaren wheel is €200
The csl elite loadcell is €230
That is €910+shipping
Even with the clubsport pedals (€360) with the brake performance(€30) and the damper kit (€80) you are at 1150
Thrustmaster way not upgrading the wheel size ?
congratulations for the preview!
choices..the LCM included in the price was the minimum.
ah ...thanks .. !!
Dude, in the video I never said the T-LCM is included in the box.
You'll find Just the standard pedals! 😉
Sim or real, it doesn't matter. Racing is expensive.
Not with a job
The t80 and t150 exist which makes your comment invalid.
@@bigcheese6159 🤣🤣🤣
It looks great ! And however, if you don’t use your T-GT 1, you know I can send you my address and pay for the delivery 😂
Work and huy one bu yourself
The original T-GT had a place. This one is irrelevant apart from those with a huge attachment to a massive TM wheel collection who can't facing moving to Fanatec.
I only want to know is T-GT 2 better than old T-GT on drifting ?
Many people say old T-GT is too slow on drifting.
I have a T300 which is even older than the T-GT by about 3 years & I don't really have any issue with it when it comes to drifting, even though it has a weaker motor
@@Sithhy Me,too. I use T300 now.
But i'm planning to buy a new wheel T-GT 2 .
The old T-GT someone said it's slow for drifting.
So i want to know how about the T-GT 2 for drifting.
I LOVE T-GT II!!! ❤💜
Hello ! i had a super T300 and then a great TS-PC ! but fed up with the sensation of the belt teeth. notches feel too much ! Can you say me what about this notches on the T-GT please ?
Great video my dude!
fixed it rattle sound? / ts-series are having problem on rattle sound when drive the wheels. i wonder about tensioner is that changed
take a look at G29 and G923, Thrustmaster does the same thing!!
G29 and G923 are the same as their predecessor the G27. No change at Logitech for more than +10 years. In fact they compare to the T150 / TMX which are the low end of TM.
For example the T300RS is in the same price range as the G923 or even cheaper and it is day and night between the two.
Did you prefer the t-gt or the fanatec csl?
Fanatec is obviously better . It's not about the preference
@@GolovaPomidor fanatec is still ass
@@SIMRIG412 OK sure buddy
@@tysopiccaso8711 Ok, sure buddy. Actualy it is about preference and not about anything else, actualy it is about witch wheel has faster lap times in a game you prefere... I had fanatec gt3rs and also lgotech g27, logitech was a lot faster in gt5 and gt6
@@GolovaPomidor yes but i actually bought a t-gt2 like new (only opened for a demonstration) for 500€, the fanatec DD pro plus load Cell plus expedition would cost me double. Can we say that the fanatec is so much better?
The wheel has shifter pedals?
so that is what was inside the box!
cool :D
Bad news as I was Just about to buy a used tg-t wheel. But I can't wait until October for us market.
Check around and maybe wait a bit the prices for the old TGT should be dropping soon.
If not this TGT2 the Fanatecs will ensure that.
I look at it from the position I’m in, I already have the first tgt…. So there isn’t enough perks or changes to the II for me to even entertain the idea of spending $$$ for the second. It’s great that they did upgrade some aspects but not dropping another $500-600 usd just for the base.
I’ve always been thrustmaster but I’m eyeballing the new fanatec DD same price bundled as the tgt ii bundle and it’s a dd with pedals that are on a completely different quality and feel level than the standard t3pa pedals.
have they only changed the wheel base from ts-pc/ts-xw wich i use. 4 years for this and even worse NM? Can you please tell if its silence or a fan like TS-XW?
It was the BMW 325 i's that those Racing Controler's are been Token from Those Cars.
Is the wheel itself any different between the two, or is it just the base?
Is the t-gt 2 compatible with acc
I have a question regarding race starts with manual clutch. Before the race start, I have to push both the throttle and the clutch, and when the lightt go out/go green, I have to release the clutch, right? Does this work in all racing games?
the clutch does not start to turn on with the pedal pressed out as much as possible, first find the pedal position when the car starts to move, remember this and try to keep the clutch pedal closer to this position during the start. Keep the accelerator at about 80%. When the lights go out, it will be enough to slightly release the clutch and add the accelerator...
Good luck.
Wouldn't really call this a review but rather a product endorsement. You hardly said anything bad about it, especially not really much about the outrageous price for a tiny upgrade
maybe he didn't say anything bad about it because its good
Viper I started simracing in last week with logitech gt driving force on gt6, do u have any advice for me?
Race clean to move up your sportsmanship level and makes it easier to move up your racing level. Sometime you get stuck on some dirty racing lobbies So is better to seat back stay away from trouble and then race on the clean racing lobbies
@@ashleyg8373 thx
Bonne vidéo bien détaillé 👍✌️
Is compatible on PC?
Very on point review
I didn't even knew that Thrustmaster has released a T-GT 2 :/
Nice review but the chewy GT1 can maybe be due to the fact you used it a lot and motor is bit "tired". Its known that not DD motors age and loose acuracy.
Hi can TGT2 connect T-LCM panel on PS5 ?thanks
I'm guessing not worth it if you for example already have a tgt?
Im a bit confuse, does it support GT7 or not?
yes, of course, and according to Thrustmaster, also Gran Turismo 8 and 9.... xD
@@viperconcept Hahaha, thank you so much.
ive got the tmx what clutch set and shifter should i get?
Is the t-gt2 better than the fanatec csl elite?
T-GT2 is slightly stronger ( nearly the same output as the Fanatec Clubsport ) but I think the pedals, wheel options and customisability of the Fanatec over the Thrustmaster is enough to convince me to get the CSL
The strongest belt driven wheel will never be as good as any direct drive wheel.
@@johnathanmoyer2375 CSL Elite is belt driven
@@vtec5862 My bad. I read CSL and immediately thought CSL DD
Who would buy a CSL elite when the DD is available? And if you had a CSL Elite, why would you move to Thrustmaster? You'd just buy the CSL DD.
In fact, if you are after a new wheel in this price range, just buy the CSL DD...
ottimo video, grazie!
when can I buy t-gt 2 servo base?
What is wrong with the video and sound
Thrustmaster involves into Logitech
so the TGT is the same size as the G923?
still can't afford one of them so I'm just gonna continue saving up for thrustmaster t80
Bsahtek khoya
Viper come si chiama su AC il coso per salvare i replay online?
Content manager.
Ti chiede se vuoi salvare il replay a fine gara (offline e online) dopo che sei uscito dal gioco.
@@viperconcept grazie
Hi everyone!! Who knows, does t-gt 1 work with ps5? Did anybody test it?
@viperconcept I got mine on today, and after plugging all the cable then connecting to PS4 is not even being detected. The steering wheel is completely dead. To be honest I do not know what to think, and I would say there is nothing wrong in how I plugged all the required harnesses. In addition I had my TH8A shifter with USB interface, and before deciding to buy the steering wheel I got in touch with TM support to confirm it was supported: I noticed that a different connector for the shifter is present on the steering wheel base, which is leading me to think I will not be able to re-use it, is this correct?
The TH8A works also with the T-GTII on PS4, as you saw in my video on GT Sport.
About the "shifter" hole in the steering base, I haven't plugged anything on it. I simply connect the TH8A via USB directly to the PS4.
Try to plug and test your steering wheel on pc. If it's still dead, then you have a defective one and you can change it with a new one for free.
@@viperconcept thanks for the quick reply! I was not expecting you to be able to get back to me in a short time: this is really appreciated! I got in touch with TM Support and apparently there might be the case that the steering wheel is stuck in boot mode. They will share to me a guide in how to check in this, and I do hope I will be solving the issue. Keep you posted on this!
There was nothing to do. Even trying to connect it to the PC the steering wheel was not detected, and trying the recovery from bootloader mode did not changed the situation. I am going to ask for a replacement…
Mans doing madman drifting around the nordschlife jesus christ hahaha
Quality 100
Fanatec dd:what is that...
Best bang for your buck! Way less than that csl DD ($1400 TOTAL)
@@abuelb €750 is too much for belt driven,if you don't go hard on options,it's easy to buy csl dd about €1000
@@steve-k.91 Not even 1000€ really, you could get a full CSL DD setup for the same price as this.
@@namesii1880 I browse the website,I think the spec I will pick is right around €1000
Thank you!
Too much T’s here
Why not Fanatec CSL DD?
TM dropped the ball it seems.
Hi
What's the diameter of this steering wheel?
viperconcept which shifter did you use It ? Is It a fanatec?
Nope. It's a TH8A
Good review thx
is it only compatible with gran turismo games?
Watch the video!
Potato camera?
I wonder how expensive it is.
Laughs in diy ffb steering wheel
Also cries with cheap dc motors
They use the T as if they were Smurfs
Intro from nfs 2012 i knew it haha
Italiano e uma lingua tão bonita.
Sorry thrustmaster, fanatec won this battle, roll on 4th march
the wheel itself is so ugly and cheap looking. i personally think the logitech wheels nailed it, they are great, they could be better if they were a little bigger and the buttons etc looked a little less gamey. but overall pretty good. can only be beaten by a buttonless real steering wheel. but then you have no buttons.
wtf are you talking about, you shod not give a fuck about the quality, dont think that a wheelbase that cost 500€ is the same as a wheel that cost 200.
Its like saying that Logitech is at the same level of a DD
@@kawpoy I was talking visually, about the style etc. Also the cheap silver plastic at the bottom of the wheel is ugly imho. Pure leather would be better. When it comes to quality or ffb etc I concede that this thrustmaster wheel beats a Logitech wheel by a massive, massive margin. I was just saying you would expect a wheel that is that much better to not look like a cheap toy.
effort: great
pronunciation: not so much
Aaaaargh 360p 😫
How - Much - Will - You - Be - Selling - Me - Your - Old - T-GT - Set - For? =]
I'm building my own wheel off of an arduino board and this gives me some ideas 🙌🙌
At the price of this wheel base you would be better off with a VRS direct force pro.
Nice review, but thrustmaster being trustworthy again, ripping off from 250 bucks is pretty pathetic, sure there's improvement, but no 250€ improvement. I hope reliability is improved(cant be tested yet), but prior thrustmaster reliability hasnt been anything special, add onto very bad customer service when it has failed.
Later that day polyphony digital have partnership with fanetech
Trust master RIP
Hi is it worth it if you don’t play gt sport?
I used the T-GT pretty often on Many racing games in the last 2 years, and It works pretty well! 😉
@@viperconcept ok cheers thanks for the reply