Best wheel for GT7? - Fanatec DD Pro vs Thrustmaster T-GT2

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  • Опубликовано: 14 фев 2022
  • After looking around for months I couldn't find any comparison videos between these two sets. Thrustmaster's current belt-driven flagship wheel is competing directly with Fanatec's new CSL DD in terms of price, but does it feel like the same price on a rig? With Gran Turismo 7 coming out in a few weeks, is the (now) officially licensed Fanatec wheel better than its true competitor?
    As to keep this video relevant i only used the 8 Nm Boost kit for the CSL DD Pro, as without it it has less torque than the T-GT and would put it below the competing price. With the boost kit, you get more torque, more fidelity and responsiveness in the FFB for around the same price.
    I would appreciate any feedback you may have, or any other comparison videos you may want for the future!
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  • @Z3r0Ultima
    @Z3r0Ultima 2 года назад +69

    you sound way more convincing than established youtubers, thanks for the review cant wait to have my hands on the wheels. oh and you deserve a sub for the honest review

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +5

      Oh man that you so much for the kind words! Can’t wait for you to try it out! X

  • @tiagopadua
    @tiagopadua Год назад +6

    Thank you! This is exactly what I was looking for. A direct comparison of the feeling between the 2 systems from someone who experienced both. Very helpful!

  • @DanDiMaggio
    @DanDiMaggio 2 года назад +17

    This is exactly the video the community needed. It will be very useful for many people! Thank you!

  • @mafaldaramalhodafonseca7130
    @mafaldaramalhodafonseca7130 2 года назад +17

    I LOVE watching you race!!!! Thank you for also taking the time to make awesome, useful content for the sim racing community. It’s awesome to see what your gear looks like.

  • @shehab1993
    @shehab1993 2 года назад +4

    I have been waiting for a comparison between those two , great video 👍🏽👍🏽

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Thanks! I really appreciate it!

  • @iftimiebogdan502
    @iftimiebogdan502 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the video, you did a great job!

  • @corronord
    @corronord 2 года назад +1

    Finally the video I was waiting for! 👌🏾Thank you!

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Súper glad I could help!!! 😌

  • @MelloKingMal05
    @MelloKingMal05 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for making this man.. it really made the difference clear for the money these things go for!

  • @adrianestrada4137
    @adrianestrada4137 2 года назад +3

    Thank you for the review. I always wanted to know the comparison. I will get the DD Pro!!

  • @matteosivilotti9800
    @matteosivilotti9800 2 года назад +15

    I prefer these type of "real consumer" reviews, rather than the reviews we are used to. Thank you! +1 sub

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Thank you!! Really appreciate it x

  • @maxnuman
    @maxnuman 2 года назад

    Great video man, and one I desperately needed. Thanks for helping me make up my mind!

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Im super happy i could help!! Hope i don't disappoint, please let me know how you feel about it when it arrives :)

  • @rich9792
    @rich9792 2 года назад

    Thanks for the review, you've helped me lean towards the Fanatec!

  • @a.haydar3176
    @a.haydar3176 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for the video Fons, this helped a bunch learning about the differences of the two wheelbases and pedals 👍🏼

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Thanks Arie! Really appreciate it 😬😌

    • @a.haydar3176
      @a.haydar3176 2 года назад

      @@afons 😎

  • @Largallama
    @Largallama 2 года назад

    Great video, brilliant break down and just the video i needed to see, cheers.

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Cheers xx

  • @ForexTrainingCamp
    @ForexTrainingCamp Год назад +14

    As an owner of the Fanatec DD Pro with boost and load cell brake I agree with you 100%. The feel of the Fanatec system “feels” like it should cost more than the actual price. Don’t tell Fanatec though lol.

    • @Noel_Merkas
      @Noel_Merkas 6 месяцев назад

      Can load cell kit be used with DD PRO on ps5 or i need to buy whole CSL pedals bundle

    • @GregoryShtevensh
      @GregoryShtevensh 5 месяцев назад

      Yep, I own a CSL DD and all sorts of other various crap, from white goods to my car and lawnmower... I totally agree too 👍

    • @GregoryShtevensh
      @GregoryShtevensh 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@Noel_Merkasa lawnmower can be used on any grass

  • @franciscosalcido8951
    @franciscosalcido8951 2 года назад +14

    Just bought GT7 and never owned a gaming steering wheel! Going to splurge on one and this was my go to review. Fanatec it is! 🙏🏽

  • @Kireth
    @Kireth 2 года назад +4

    Great review 👍

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Thanks bro! Means a lot x

  • @tigersinstinct
    @tigersinstinct 2 года назад +1

    Awesome breakdown!

  • @raphaelmeillat8527
    @raphaelmeillat8527 2 года назад

    Great review, well done! Just subscribed!

  • @SimRacing604
    @SimRacing604 2 года назад

    Great video man! Thanks for this

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      thanks!!!!

  • @DuckReconMajor
    @DuckReconMajor 2 года назад

    Thank you for this video!

  • @Kajdebruin
    @Kajdebruin 2 года назад +3

    Really nice video👍🏻

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Thanks bud! Hope to see u on track very soon 😬

  • @VioletPrism
    @VioletPrism 2 года назад +1

    Can you give more info about that seat pad you're using does it give force feedback and what is it called? Thanks alot for the great and clear review. :)

  • @WittyGooseRacing
    @WittyGooseRacing 2 года назад

    Great video, looking forward to the GT7 videos

  • @bobb.4173
    @bobb.4173 2 года назад

    Thank you your honest comparison!!

  • @MrGulyo
    @MrGulyo 2 года назад

    Very user friendly review. Thank you from Hungary. I will get my dd gt pro this Friday 😀

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Thank you! I appreciate your comment ❤️ you will not regret it! X

  • @DeviantSkyline
    @DeviantSkyline 2 года назад

    Very very helpful! Thanks for this

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Glad I could help! Thanks for the comment x

    • @DeviantSkyline
      @DeviantSkyline 2 года назад

      @@afons Have you tried the DD in F1? If so, how does it perform in comparison to GT7?

  • @pixelperfectpizza
    @pixelperfectpizza 2 года назад +1

    Hey mate, really liked the video! You deserve 10x the followers

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Thank you so much, really appreciate it!

  • @leighrobinson9403
    @leighrobinson9403 2 года назад +1

    Great review

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Thanks a bunch 😌

  • @fvolpim
    @fvolpim 2 года назад +1

    Otima avaliacao! Nice Review!

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Muito obrigado! X

  • @saiaman01
    @saiaman01 2 года назад

    Thanks for video, what's your stand you put this on please ?

  • @kshay1394
    @kshay1394 Год назад +2

    Really well covered. Thanks for contributing to my decision. And I agree.

  • @focuswest2736
    @focuswest2736 2 года назад

    Do you know what cheap shifters will work with it? I don't really want to shell out another 250 for the one they have

  • @jasonsanders9616
    @jasonsanders9616 2 года назад

    You sold me. Awesome job explaining the two.

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Thanks man! 😊🤟🏻

  • @strength45
    @strength45 5 месяцев назад

    what racing stand di you use at the time of the recording? im looking into getting a stand myself. Thanks.

  • @mcfalith2596
    @mcfalith2596 2 года назад +6

    Nice and honest review, you describe what we need to compare and chase. I have just bought a T300 and sounds good, but see a dd pro in the future!

    • @meejmuas8686
      @meejmuas8686 Год назад

      After this video, I am of the same opinion!

  • @flizzyfler5522
    @flizzyfler5522 2 года назад +2

    Hey! Great video! :) Will go for the DD pro, but don't know, which racing seat is the best (bc even the pricy ones aren't that good according to customer reviews). What kind of setup are you using?

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Sorry it too me so long to get back (was in the literal process of changing set up).
      Check out my latest video where i go over my whole set up! The video description has all the components too in case you dont want to watch the whole thing!
      Thanks for the interest and hope it helps!!!
      ruclips.net/video/h3Fs3Dadl6E/видео.html&ab_channel=GG_AFonseca

  • @hussainchoudhury8846
    @hussainchoudhury8846 Год назад +2

    Thank you!!!! Saved me a fortune. Amazon has this interest free monthly option to pay for the Thrustmaster one so I was really going to go for it, especially with psvr 2 support for GT& looking so amazing. Glad I saw this vid. I think I would rather be patient and save up for a Fanatec

  • @ORIGINALFUTURE
    @ORIGINALFUTURE 2 года назад +1

    the best and most honest review i have seen on youtube ;)

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Thank you so much! ❤️

  • @euconstantin
    @euconstantin 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks man. You helped me finally make my mind.

    • @grossglizzy
      @grossglizzy 5 месяцев назад

      What did you decide on, I’ve been 2 guessing myself for about 2 weeks now

    • @euconstantin
      @euconstantin 5 месяцев назад

      The fanatec. However it is utterly expensive for what it is. I'll settle with a thrust master t300 most likely for now.

    • @euconstantin
      @euconstantin 5 месяцев назад

      The fanatec. However it is utterly expensive for what it is. I'll settle with a thrust master t300 most likely for now.

  • @guszo77
    @guszo77 2 года назад +5

    Already pre ordered the DD Pro really looking forward to using from my G29 quite the substantial upgrade I hear.

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +4

      Congrats on the purchase! The difference is night and day between those two, so you will be thrilled!

    • @BielCT
      @BielCT 2 года назад

      5 or 8?nm

    • @bialydymgt994
      @bialydymgt994 2 года назад

      same here!

  • @feeldontbelieve6577
    @feeldontbelieve6577 7 месяцев назад

    Did the TGT have a vibration thing like those sound things you put on the rig where it would vibrate your rig or something? Have you felt it and was it translating what is happening in game to the rig well enough? Thats one thing i am really curuios about the tgt

  • @reverenddanger
    @reverenddanger 2 года назад +2

    Pointing out how it effected your wrist and forearms was great feedback. I feel the same way about the Logitech g923

  • @MikaTarkela
    @MikaTarkela Год назад +4

    I've been trying to decide between these 2. I'm probably going to get the DD Pro (8Nm) bundle with the 3rd load cell pedal.

  • @edwardcarballo390
    @edwardcarballo390 Год назад

    I would like to buy one of these but I do not know how to make sure the set up I buy is compatible for America. Any help would be appreciated.

  • @VinePest
    @VinePest 2 года назад

    Really cool video, I enjoyed the oldschool youtube no-fuss production - content-wise really helpful, honest and sincere. You've brought me a little bit closer to sending my G29 into early retirement. Just a little bit.

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Aw man thank you! really really appreciate the kind words xx

    • @Chirp_Fest
      @Chirp_Fest 2 года назад +2

      Don’t throw in the towel on the G29 yet! It still gets the job done for sure.

    • @VinePest
      @VinePest 2 года назад

      @@Chirp_Fest you're right, there's no rush:)

  • @Noel_Merkas
    @Noel_Merkas 6 месяцев назад

    Can load cell kit be used with DD PRO on ps5 or i need to buy whole CSL pedals bundle

  • @Dzohnny
    @Dzohnny 10 месяцев назад

    Not playing racing games, watched the whole video. Great review :P

  • @davethestalker
    @davethestalker Год назад +3

    Could you please do a follow up video on the T-GT2 now that there had been a few updates for GT7 and we have had it for almost a year?

  • @powerpaul1423
    @powerpaul1423 2 года назад

    Where did u get your seat support? i have same cockpit and back issues. Thanks. Great video

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      I got it in some local stores. One thing I’d recommend (it’s going to sound weird) is strapping the seat belts it comes with. When we brake, our lower back tends to come forward and that not only makes braking harder to be consistent it also gives us very nice lower back issues. I found strapping on the seat belts help keep our bodies in the correct (and more importantly the same) place. Give it a go, I hope it helps!

  • @MagicAyrtonforever
    @MagicAyrtonforever 2 года назад +25

    The TGT II should have the TLCM pedals by default at that price along with a choice of one of 2 x 30 cm wheels in Leather or Alcantara.

    • @yippykayak5842
      @yippykayak5842 2 года назад +3

      100%. They missed the mark massively with the TGT 2. It’s not even a consideration at rrp, you’d have to be mad to buy it.

    • @muhdzulhilmi7399
      @muhdzulhilmi7399 Год назад +3

      Exactly, the pedals that came with TGT2 are the T3PA which is like the basic of pedals from Thrustmaster and has been around for like 8 years? to be paired with something new like the TGT2 is really a bummer. The wheel and base feel good, really good to me, but then the pedals are instead... disappointing.

    • @MagicAyrtonforever
      @MagicAyrtonforever Год назад +2

      @@muhdzulhilmi7399 In fact the TM direct drive misses the mark too as it's to be PC only - From what I can tell.

  • @wagonet
    @wagonet 2 года назад +1

    Great video

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Thanks a million! X

  • @majsport
    @majsport Год назад +1

    Hey man... thank you so much for the honest review.. i have a T300RS and it has just lost the FFB so i was looking at the TGT II...after your review i may go for the Fanatec DD.. keep up the great work 🙂👍🏽

    • @tecno4u31
      @tecno4u31 Год назад

      Why you lost force feedback?

    • @PageCrowes
      @PageCrowes 11 месяцев назад

      ​@tecno4u31 force feed back fade. Not enough power to hold ffb. The tgt2 won't fade or go fanatac

  • @positiveszn3706
    @positiveszn3706 2 года назад +1

    Nice vid bro

  • @EnglishWithDane
    @EnglishWithDane 2 года назад +1

    Good to know dude thnx

  • @user-gc2cs9tb4g
    @user-gc2cs9tb4g 2 года назад +2

    Waiting for your review of there wheels for GT7!

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +2

      I’ll be as fast as I can!!!

    • @user-gc2cs9tb4g
      @user-gc2cs9tb4g 2 года назад

      @@afons Thank you so much ^_^

  • @evanmmiranda
    @evanmmiranda 2 года назад +2

    Awesome !

  • @David-bw7is
    @David-bw7is 2 года назад +6

    Never used a wheel before, but after finishing all the Cafe "Menus" in GT7 I decided to get one, grabbed a Logitech G29 in a sale, I know it's not as flash as some of the more expensive ones, but for a first wheel it's excellent, responsive and my lap times have dropped, well worth a look if you're a first timer, like I was. :-)

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +7

      Huge congrats on the g29! It’s an awesome little thing if you are just getting started. The level of immersion you get compared to pad is next level. I’m glad you are enjoying it. I call the g29 the “gateway wheel” as its good enough to captivate you, and there’s so much room for improvement that you don’t know exists (or even know you need) that it leads to more purchases. Beware of that and enjoy to the max!

    • @localnemesis94
      @localnemesis94 Год назад

      I wonder if playing on PSVR2 will reduce lap times as well? I’m thinking it most likely will…

  • @mtzmueller
    @mtzmueller 2 года назад +16

    I appreciate your honest comparison, I really wanted to see something like this. I had to go for the T GT II because I already had the H pattern shifter for it and I mainly drive vehicles with clutch and h pattern shifters, so to match that on the Fanatec I would have ended spending 500 dollars more between shifter and upgraded pedals. In addition, I have had bad experiences with Fanatec products in the past. Nevertheless, it was a painful decision, it does bother me because it seems that the dd is definitely a superior product, but at this point in time the thrustmaster was the right one for my budget. But I completely agree, the T GT II is overpriced and it should be in the 500-600 dollar range.

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +9

      The T-GT2 is a great wheel! You have a solid, versatile set up! The DD does feel like the future but that by no means discredits the TGTs positives. Thanks for your comment x

    • @mtzmueller
      @mtzmueller 2 года назад +2

      @@afons thanks man, I appreciate your words of encouragement! I’ll continue keeping an eye on your videos, good luck with the channel!

    • @calebwright2849
      @calebwright2849 2 года назад +2

      I know it wont help you now but for anybody else in the future in this situation you can get a drivehub adapter if your on console so you can mix&match fanatec/thrustmaster/logitech wheels, pedals and shifters. If your on pc then all you need is usb adapter. The Drivehub adapter is about 90usd which isn't bad if you already have invested a lot into one eco system vs starting from scratch.
      I'm using one with my ps4 to run my thrustmaster t300, thrustmaster T-LCM pedals with a fanatec 1.5SQ shifter. Obviously I could have saved almost 150 had I got the thrustmaster th8 shifter but a good H shifter was important to me and the fanatec is about the best you can get in the sub 300 range. It would of cost me 200ish for thrustmaster shifter, ended up costing me 280 for fanatec shifter with usb adapter plus another 90 for the drivehub.
      I will upgrade to a dd wheel and heusinkveld sprint pedals at some point soon but I'm pretty satisfied with my current set up for now. Wish the pedals had more feel in the clutch and throttle but the loadcell brake is great for now and I think I can modify the clutch to feel more real and natural instead of the numb, linear feel. I'm going to add some bass shakers for gear changes, basic suspension/tire feedback and engine revs as well plus a couple small ones to mount directly to the shifter for grinding and what not and one directly to the brake pedal for abs effects, more finer details.
      I know with the transducers you have to prioritize what you want to feel or your just going to feel a big mess of vibrations and it will be like your on a big ol'e vibrator instead of driving a race car lol. I can't wait to get a motion platform. Dof reality h3/p3 looks great for the money.
      There is also the Yaw vr and yaw2 for less than 2 grand. They don't look the best for sim racing, but for just about everything else it looks like they would be pretty cool. You could actually own both a yaw vr and 3dof dof reality motion rig for under 5 grand. Lol not that it's super cheap I know but when you think about the capabilities of what they can do it's pretty neat.

    • @mtzmueller
      @mtzmueller 2 года назад

      @@calebwright2849 thanks for your message! I wish I had known that before, it does sound like a good option. I spent the weekend playing GT7 and I have to say I did have a blast playing with the T-GT II, I just can’t imagine how it can get better than that, I need to try the DD. Your future setup sounds really good, I also need better pedals.

    • @12ichie
      @12ichie Год назад

      hey guys getting a wheel rn should I go for the t300 or the grand turismo wheel thrustmaster

  • @MrBasjunk
    @MrBasjunk 2 года назад +1

    Great video - thank you. You did not say anything about the transducer on the t-gt 2.

  • @cronicgamer2918
    @cronicgamer2918 2 года назад

    Great review... Buying dd pro this week what stand or rig are you using there and how did the dd cope with it? And is it clamped or bolted?

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Hey! Congrats on the purchase! I use a “Next Level Racing GT Track”. You bolt the wheelbase onto the rig directly (it has the right pre drilled holes). So long as you build the rig properly there should be little to no movement at all. Table clamp I’ve heard works well too but you need a heavy table or you run the risk of it moving around (with the 8nm).
      Hope this helps and good luck! Any questions let me know 😊

    • @cronicgamer2918
      @cronicgamer2918 2 года назад

      @@afons thank you... You have saved me a couple of hundred on what rig I was going to buy... Hope your channel grows and you do more reviews 🔝RUclipsr👍

  • @tonettem
    @tonettem 2 года назад

    Very nice review! If I may ask, what racing cockpit did you use in this video?

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Thanks a bunch! Next level racing - GT Track x

  • @onlyspace9813
    @onlyspace9813 Год назад

    Hola. Partiendo de que suelo usar mando... ¿Hay mucha diferencia entre el T300 rs gt y este gt2?
    Too much difference between T300 rs the Gt2 model? I usually play with a xbox controller...

  • @fahada1921
    @fahada1921 2 года назад +10

    Thanks a lot for this video.
    Everything I’ve heard about the GT DD Pro is great but the problem is they don’t ship outside of Europe except a few countries.
    You don’t have that problem with Thrustmaster.
    That needs to change especially after Fanatec being the official GT7 and F1 wheel.

    • @MichaelJP
      @MichaelJP 2 года назад

      Well that sucks! I'm in Australia and just ordered the DD Pro no issue but I know how you feel as most colours of Levi Jeans and certain Nike shoes (mainly flyknit versions and some Jordan's) "can't" be bought or delivered here! I don't get it as money is money, as long as you're paying the same with conversion, why would they pass up sales?
      If you have online friends overseas you can trust, maybe send them the cash and get them to forward the wheel to you.

    • @fahada1921
      @fahada1921 2 года назад +1

      @@MichaelJP I agree 💯
      Although I can use my American address but it will cost a lot since it’s heavy unlike shoes or clothes.
      But quite frankly I don’t mind waiting ~6 months (hopefully) maybe they’ll get that fixed.
      Regardless I’m enjoying GT7 with the PS5 controller.

    • @MichaelJP
      @MichaelJP 2 года назад

      @@fahada1921 Well, luck be with you then, patience is a virtue as they say. I did the same with my 3080 GPU, but only a 3 month wait there.
      Can't say the same for wheel/controller though. I played through the B License test with a controller, shut the PS4 off and ordered the DD the next day.
      I'm happy playing a heavily modded Assetto Corsa with my TS-XW wheel until the DD gets here! 😄

    • @israelbarrueta6924
      @israelbarrueta6924 Год назад

      Same thing here... I went for TGT2 cause we don't have official Fanatec sale's here in my country therefore Fanatec cost's at least 3 times what TGT2 cost's

    • @ydihtty
      @ydihtty Год назад

      @@MichaelJP I'm in Australia but couldn't find anywhere the DD Pro is decently available, in general it seems way more expensive than the T-GT II which is actually somewhat available at local stores. Where did you order your DD Pro from?

  • @brockharrison356
    @brockharrison356 2 года назад

    Nice review. Your two gripes are the same as mine ironically (the paddle shifter shape and joystick controller on the wheel). In gt I do a lot of shifting mid corner, particularly in slow speed where I downshift to first gear to help rotate the car. I find it a bit tricky trying to shift when the wheel is rotated 45 degrees or so. Other than that I’m extremely pleased with it!

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      nice to see im not the only one! Not terrible issues to have to deal with after everything is said and done though. x Thanks for the comment

    • @rdeh1678
      @rdeh1678 10 месяцев назад

      You should look at the new thrustmaster shifter that just came out for September 2023 ,it's 99 dollars canadian

  • @kenny_wills_
    @kenny_wills_ 2 года назад

    What do you recommend for a stand setup for the DD Pro that won't break the bank. Just bought the DD Pro and load cell kit and says will be available March 28 and load cell on April 7. Hopefully won't be a crazy lead time. I'm ready for it!!

    • @PageCrowes
      @PageCrowes 11 месяцев назад

      Next level racing 2

  • @DanKam92
    @DanKam92 2 года назад +1

    You got a new sub, probably going for the dd pro

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Thank you so much x

  • @forbidden76
    @forbidden76 Год назад +1

    My Playseat Alcantara racing chair cannot handle the Load Cell pedals so using the T3PA still. Its more arcady feeling and I like them better to be honest. I think I am going T-GT2 though for PS5 since I am already in the Thrustmaster ecosystem and just need the Servo base for $499. Thanks for the video!

  • @Ichwiebrot
    @Ichwiebrot 6 месяцев назад +3

    The T-gt 2 is incredible, but not for its price, if you want a cheaper wheel for gt7 the T300-RS is great, and if you have extra money 100% worth the Fanatec, but if you can find mabye a used Gt-2 its a awesome wheel that can satisfy sim racing needs and is probably worth it, its probably one of the best gear/belt driven wheels ever.

  • @jeremycorrao
    @jeremycorrao 2 года назад +1

    Does the Fanatac wheel have the attachment to attach to a table or do you have to purchase something else?

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Hey! Both the DD and the DD Pro come with a table mount included in the bundle!

  • @tonechaser7174
    @tonechaser7174 2 года назад

    Where do you buy this high end stuff for racing?

  • @sharifali1129
    @sharifali1129 2 года назад

    Does the load cell resistant feel the same on par/much better than trigger button on dual shock 5? Vibration & trigger resistant on Dual shock 5 is damm good on GT7.

    • @MichaelJP
      @MichaelJP 2 года назад +1

      You can't compare a controller to a wheel, completely different immersion levels but the load cell just adds resistance for better braking precision, it's the wheel itself that translates the car's braking "feel".
      I had a quick play with GT7 through the B License tests on a controller and quit out of boredom. It was completely unimmersive, it just can't translate car/road feel like a wheel. DD Pro ordered the next day.

  • @chancemccloskey5665
    @chancemccloskey5665 2 года назад

    I’m currently on a Logitech g29, Ik I’m poor and just starting out, but I’ve gotten the absolute pleasure of trying a Podium dd2. But for a base would you think I should start with this or just save up a good bit and shell the money for a DD1

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Thats for the comment! Ah man, that’s a tough one. Not gonna say the DD1 isn’t a better product, but if money is an issue, the DD1 is much more expensive. Any of the options are an unbelievable upgrade on the g29 so I don’t think you will be disappointed. Maybe you could spend the extra money saved from getting a DD PRO on a number of wheels? Accessories? It’s a really tough one tho, please let me know what you end up doing!! X

  • @paul______4933
    @paul______4933 2 года назад +1

    I liked the rumble feature with the Thrustmaster unit it, it (imo) helped translate what was happening with the tires. Does the DD Pro translate in a similar way? Or is there just a hole in the feeling? I want the DD Pro I'm just scared it'll feel hollow. Thank you for your vid and time.

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +3

      Thanks man! Yea the rumble was awesome. Unfortunately the rumble is gone for gt7 in the tgt. The DD gives detail in a more precise way. Im working on a video explaining it! xx

    • @paul______4933
      @paul______4933 2 года назад +1

      @GG_AFonseca I think I'm sold. I've heard it
      said before that there's road feel translated with the DD Pro, just in a different and more precise way. Then the upgrades. I'm starting with the 5nm and V3's. Ill add dampened and booster later.

    • @paul______4933
      @paul______4933 2 года назад +1

      @GG_AFonseca Thank you and I look forward to the more in-depth video.

  • @cppctek
    @cppctek 2 года назад

    I want a dd so bad but I don’t want to wait months to get it. There on back order. Do you have any advice ? I have a g923 now and it’s horrible.

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Honestly, you would have to be a bit patient. The orders started coming in 2 weeks ago (ahead of schedule in europe) so you might not need to wait as much as you originally think. Either way, its worth the wait if you like your sim racing!! x

  • @Shkizu
    @Shkizu 2 года назад

    That's all I've wanted to know. Thank you.

  • @jeem1984
    @jeem1984 2 года назад +1

    Muy buena comparación! Como bien dices creo que no había ningún video comprando estos dos volantes. Y te alabo el gusto de hacer los videos en inglés, llegaras a muchísima más gente

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Muchísimas gracias kike!! Se intenta 😅😅 un abrazo

    • @maverikbcn2318
      @maverikbcn2318 2 года назад

      Para los que no dominamos demasiado el ingles, que volante gana en la comparacion para jugar a GT7?

    • @jeem1984
      @jeem1984 2 года назад

      @@maverikbcn2318 le ha gustado más el Fanatec, no cree que el T-GT2 esté mal (sin contar precio, y algo los pedales), pero en definitiva prefiere el DD Pro. Yo las bases solo he probado la de Fanatec, pero los pedales he probado los de ambos y no hay comparación, mejor los de Fanatec (aunque el de Fanatec venga sin embrague)

    • @maverikbcn2318
      @maverikbcn2318 2 года назад

      @@jeem1984 Gracias por la explicación, creo que acabare comprando DD Pro.

    • @joserivera-ipsien3418
      @joserivera-ipsien3418 2 года назад

      Muy buen video! Gracias por la comparativa! Lanzo una pregunta, tengo amigos, que al compararlos, dicen que el TGT les da más información en curva que el DD pro, que notan más detalles, es así? Gracias de antemano!

  • @mwdfinch76
    @mwdfinch76 2 года назад +2

    Just got the 8nm and load cell. My god it's good. I'm so glad I didn't get the T-GT. Came from a T300 and it's a different universe.

    • @CalculatedRiskAK
      @CalculatedRiskAK 2 года назад

      I have the same bundle on order. I can only hope mine arrives in time for GT7, but it probably won't.

  • @Martilied
    @Martilied 2 года назад +4

    Personally I'd go for the GT DD but with the Mclaren V2 wheel. Or the F1.
    Anyway, great and detailed video mate! I was waiting for this one when I first saw your stories.
    Good analysis and points🤙🏻

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +2

      Thanks Marti! I got the mclaren v2 as well but wanted to keep this video more to the point 🤣 the mclaren rim looks awesome too. Thanks for the comment bud x

    • @Martin-vn9fr
      @Martin-vn9fr 2 года назад

      @@afons But the qr lite isnt very good, so you would have to spend 100 Euro for the qr1 even though a new qr2 is on the horizon which itself will cost 100 euro again

    • @guidofoc7057
      @guidofoc7057 2 года назад +2

      I have the CSL DD with the McLaren GT3 v2 wheel and I love the wheel, it's light, solid, lots of buttons, well shaped. I also bought the ClubSport RS to have a round wheel but for racing I just use the McLaren one. No problem at all with the QR lite. I have QR1 on the ClubSport wheel but the McLaren wheel with QR lite feels tight all the same.

  • @gijs6815
    @gijs6815 2 года назад +1

    I have a problem with my dd pro i have a small vibration in the base when i turn it on it starts to vibrate when i turn it on it wont stop do i nedd to send it back?

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Hey! The base should not vibrate at the start. It should move three times in short quick, controlled movements (left, right and back to center). All being smooth. Does it also vibrate without a wheel attached (could be a quick release issue)? If the issue persists definitely contact fanatec (on their web page you can file a claim and if there’s a really problem they will switch one out for you. It’s really unfortunate this has happened to you. Let us know how it turns out and if you manage to solve it!! X

    • @iamzuesthisisthetruth8864
      @iamzuesthisisthetruth8864 2 года назад

      Hey get a hold of Fanatec Support!! They will fix u up. Need images of the problem. Preferably on Fanalabs! GL so Sorry to hear that!!!

  • @GT1GT
    @GT1GT 2 года назад +3

    I never came from the TM T-GT2 but from the T-150 Force Feedback witch is probably one of the lowest tiers you can get then bought the Fanatec CSL DD Pro Express version with the 8nm and WOW I love it so much. I can probably say I will be good for the next 10 years accept will upgrade to the CSL DD Load cell and maybe a couple more wheels like a Rally wheel and a F1 wheel.

    • @sebbo0378
      @sebbo0378 Год назад +1

      I rn have the t-150 too and im looking to buy the fanatec gt dd pro

    • @GT1GT
      @GT1GT Год назад

      @@sebbo0378 DO IT! You wont regret it :)

  • @beaterbagcar
    @beaterbagcar 2 года назад +2

    the fanatec gt dd feels like a real car. when you hit the curbs, soooooo good and smooth.

  • @rharder
    @rharder Месяц назад

    Curious what gear you have today. Is the Fanatec DD Pro something you would recommend now?

    • @vtg1800
      @vtg1800 4 дня назад

      No, just buy TGT2. Because DD Pro too smooth like you driving in bowling road, this make not realistic. In real life you driving in public road with more variation vibration. TGT2 is better and no bad plastic in wheel like DD Pro

  • @8safety
    @8safety 2 года назад +1

    What stand are you using to mount the Fanatec DD?

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      GT Track by Next Level Racing

  • @stephan9487
    @stephan9487 2 года назад +2

    Thanks man. Im not even at the TGT2. Im coming off a thrustmaster T300RS that I was running on my PS4. Now Im onto the PS5 with GT Sport and waiting for GT7 so looking to upgrade. So I'm guessing either would be a good upgrade for me but based on your feelings, I'm gonna go with the Fanatec DD Pro. Ive always been told Direct Drive can't be beat anyway. Just hoping the delays with shipping aren't too bad.

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      I’m super glad I could help! 😬 please let me know how you feel when you get it! Thanks for the comment x

    • @stephan9487
      @stephan9487 2 года назад

      @@halfbreed02 ouch.

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      @@halfbreed02 i ordered my DD Pro in November! It arrived before its original ETA! You will not be disappointed 😬 “good things come to those who wait” x

  • @Daniel-zo5wz
    @Daniel-zo5wz Месяц назад +1

    I currently have the thrustmaster t300. My issue with it is overheating. When I play GT7, I have to turn the ffb down to 4-6 torque, so not nearly as much ffb. The next issue is that whenever I turn more than 90 degrees, the wheel vibrates, and I immediately go off track. This issue makes road cars close to undrivable.

  • @AL-sf3qy
    @AL-sf3qy 2 года назад +1

    How about reliability between the two?

  • @CWHolleman
    @CWHolleman Год назад +2

    My biggest issue with the LCMs was not being able to invert the pedals like you could with the T3PA-Pros.
    Seems like a step backward there.

  • @OrinocoGaming
    @OrinocoGaming 2 года назад

    Nice video, trying to get into GT7 and I wanted to ask you, for a beginner like me with a budget of 1000 USD but with limited space to have a cockpit setup in my tiny living room which setup would you recommend, because it seems the DD needs a proper base to connect while TGT you can set it on any table. Thanks for your feedback :)

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Hey, welcome! Both the TGT and the DD Pro come with table clamps included in the bundles. Technically, you can use both on a sturdy table but you have to be ware of the force feedback being too high and make your table move around (that’s for both units). As a starter it’s more of whether you prefer Fanatec or Thrustmaster and their respective environments.
      Thrustmaster is more plug and play than Fanatec. You need a PC to update drivers, etc on the Fanatec.
      If you want more help there are a bunch of GT related discord servers that are very active and most people are willing to help!
      Best of luck x

    • @OrinocoGaming
      @OrinocoGaming 2 года назад

      @@afons thanks for your quick reply. Well, I'm a software engineer, so, dealing with firmwares is not an issue. I also noticed something the DD pedals have only 2 whilst the TGT has 3, is this a drawback? And in your honest opinion if the budget is not an issue will you go with the DD. I'm thinking to invest in something that will last, and you mentioned the DD feels more like future. So, I was heading for thrustmaster but after watching this video, I'm hesitant :)

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      @@OrinocoGaming no problem!! You are correct, the pedal set does include the clutch pedal with thrustmaster, but unless you also get a shifter then the clutch pedal won’t really matter.
      Honestly, DD is the better tech. The TGT is top of the range of belt driven wheel bases, but the DD just feels more advanced. At least like the next step.
      You should still do what you feel is best for you, but for me fanatec is the more premium option for a reason.

  • @BrianEngdoinghisTheng
    @BrianEngdoinghisTheng 2 года назад +1

    I'm so close to buying one of these wheels but I need the space. Is that setup collapsible?

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      Hey, this rig is called “Next Level Racing GT Track” which is not collapsible. NLR does have a collapsible chair, but the DD is quite heavy and if you need to hard mount (mount using bolts) it would be a logistical nightmare due to all the work getting it into place and out of it. If you have a heavy table you can use the table clamp which also works well. Hope this helps, good luck and thanks for the comment! X

    • @BrianEngdoinghisTheng
      @BrianEngdoinghisTheng 2 года назад +1

      @@afons thanks! That's really good to know

  • @thatonespot5878
    @thatonespot5878 Год назад

    Ok I have a question can you use the t300rs wheel on a tgt2 base

  • @kubemaster
    @kubemaster 2 года назад +5

    I have the first TGT that I bought in 2017. Still love it. But definitely interested in the Fanatec. One problem I have though is that I use Macs, so updating drivers is next to impossible for me. Other thing I’d like to know is, do you not miss the feel of the transducer on the tgt-2? I actually think it adds more immersion, and that’s me just using the tgt-1.

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +4

      The Mac thing is quite the annoyance, and TM will have the "Plug and play" much more available than the Fanatec counterpart. In that sense the TGT is a clear winner (although you can surely find someone in your circle that has a PC you could use, albeit, a true pain in the butt).
      The transducer. Oh my. That thing was a huge discovery and a monumental set up for inmersion like you say. I havent missed it one bit though, honestly. You get all the detail you could ever need in the DD. Its very different. Its smooth whilst somehow giving you that similar level of detail. Its weird and awesome. You will have to calibrate it properly to get the most out of it though, where the TGT is just plug and play.
      Thanks for your comment and good luck x

    • @kubemaster
      @kubemaster 2 года назад

      @@afons I’m honestly having a great time on my T-GT 1 in GT7. The physics translate very well, and the transducer rumble is still there. Certain things such as jumps and curbs aren’t quite as pronounced as in GT sport, but I think that’s due to the physics programming of GT7.

    • @Ryan-re1rs
      @Ryan-re1rs 2 года назад

      Well since you use mac you are used to pissing away money, so just go buy a cheap laptop to use for driver updates. Lol.

    • @kubemaster
      @kubemaster 2 года назад

      @@Ryan-re1rs How am I pissing away money?

  • @giogamer4825
    @giogamer4825 2 года назад +2

    Great video and comparison!! Thanks for this great video. My old wheel T-GT2 and TLCM vs my just bought GT DD Pro bundle and V3. I am only surprised by your pedal opinion, as i did think that the TLCM would be better then the CSL pedals. I hope my V3 is not a mistake buy 🤣 Will have to see when the DD Pro bundle arrive

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      Thanks 🙏🏻 nah! They are better than the ones that come with the TGT, not the TLCMs. That wouldn’t be a fair comparison (load cell vs potentiometer). I got the exact same upgrade as you! I’m having a blast 💥 thanks for the comment x

    • @giogamer4825
      @giogamer4825 2 года назад +1

      @@afons Great to know. Mine will arrive this or next week. Thanks for your reply 👍

    • @localnemesis94
      @localnemesis94 Год назад +1

      I just ordered the TGT-2 & the TLCM pedals so I hope I made a good decision haha

    • @giogamer4825
      @giogamer4825 Год назад

      @@localnemesis94 Yes,. Maybe you can go later on to the Direct Drive base from Thrustmaster. It was just release for Pc with 10nm torue and that is great torque.Then you have a real great set up. ruclips.net/video/95WpdBqOTCk/видео.html

    • @localnemesis94
      @localnemesis94 Год назад

      @@giogamer4825 have they announced a PS5 release date yet?

  • @radarluv67
    @radarluv67 Год назад

    Does the g2 work on the fanatec base?

  • @miskufkopn
    @miskufkopn 2 года назад +1

    Thx great review and you have 5 or 8 boost kit on fanatec?

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      8 Nm! Thanks 🙏🏻

    • @miskufkopn
      @miskufkopn 2 года назад

      @@afons its big diference between 5 and 8? Thx mate

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      @@miskufkopn yes, it is quite noticeable. You have more room to calibrate it to your liking with more power.

  • @Mikor_78
    @Mikor_78 Год назад

    Thanks for your review. If not for you, I would have bought a T-GT II with T-LCM pedals for 730 euros. For now, I will hold off on buying a steering wheel for a few months. From what you say, the future belongs to direct drive. Thrustmaster is expected to announce its direct drive soon. It is a pity that Fanatec does not officially sell its products in my country. And Logitech has its DD, only a space price

  • @spawnandbatman6975
    @spawnandbatman6975 2 года назад +1

    my thing is can you add a clutch peddle or not? why does it not have one to begin with?

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад +1

      You can get a clutch pedal as an extra, or if you end up upgrading to the Load Cell version you can move the existing brake pedal to the left and use it as the clutch! It is a bit frustrating I agree.

    • @spawnandbatman6975
      @spawnandbatman6975 2 года назад

      @@afons that’s cool though. I might just go with the upgraded version. Only thing I’ll need is a manual shifter. I like to have the traditional shifter even though paddle shifters are the normal thing now lol. But it’s cool to drive classics etc with a Manual shifter and clutch.

  • @davidwild8932
    @davidwild8932 2 года назад +2

    Nice video but on the title / subject you should notify "with the BOOST KIT" (because without this kit, with the 5Nm version, the result totally different)

    • @afons
      @afons  2 года назад

      You are absolutely correct, I should have mentioned that. The 5nm is less than the TGT (which outputs 6nm) so I didn’t even get into it. it’s been said that the boost kit is almost essential to this bundle (I would argue even more important than the load cell initially). Due to the pedals being at least precise for games like GT, the added NM really make a huge mega difference. Thank you for reminding me though. Always willing to improve! X thanks for the comment and suggestion

  • @telmo2430
    @telmo2430 Месяц назад

    Execelnte video camarada. Eu tive a sorte de adquirir esta semana um tgt2 com 2 meses a 320 euros. Espero ter feito um grande negocio. Felicidades

  • @DweeboDylan
    @DweeboDylan Год назад

    I have a T-gt 2 right now. Having some issues with it, is the DD pro worth it to change?

    • @afons
      @afons  Год назад

      Hey! Well that really depends on what you attribute more value to. What sort of issues is the tgt giving you? Overall, the DD Pro is a better wheel. Unless you exclusively play gt7, in which case tthey are both very simiar (most pros do prefer the tgt for gt). So it comes down to what issues you are having (if they are replicable in the fanatec) and what games you play. For me it was worth the change as i started getting into many other racing sims. Its a no brainer there. Hope this helped, happy to help with whatever issues you have x