@@ocassionaljunkieforyou I had the misfortune of being born years after the Heartbreakers split up, but i alwayd thought the live videos of LAMF doing the transition into pills was like a callback to this show.
That's what made them great and that's what's completely gone out of music and rock and roll is spontaneity. My favorite album still is live at speakeasy that's a criminally underrated live rock and roll record!
Johnny was a great guy when he was straight, and a helluva musician. Hung out with him. Richard Hell and Dee Dee back in the old days. Sad that 2 of the 3 are gone. I miss em.
When was JT straight? Loved the music, yet, always thought he and all those in his orbit were kinda tragic. I don’t blame JT for the choices others made, but I had several friends that idolized and hung out with him. They all had pretty short lives.
Billy looked healthy and virile here. The needle and the damage done. Walter was the only one who successfully broke his addiction. R.I.P. The Heartbreakers
I met Billy Rath when he was playing bass for Iggy in 1980. Lovely fella. Jim Kerr was on the guest list with his Simple Minds new band. Kerry slagged me off for my Motorhead patch. Billy right over and asked what was wrong. I just said , oh this idiot here doesn't like Motorhead. Billy said. Hey ,Lemmys a good pal of mine. Shut up or you're out. Cheers Billy. Never forget that. Iggy was really friendly too. Took time to talk, explain the TV Eye album cover. As being from Some Weird Sin. Great night. Top
Well, the drama of the personalities aside, the bottom line is this is flipping great and amazing rock and roll. Lotsa people don't get what that means, and many do, but it's about the spirit of the thing. Of the song and the musicians and how it all came together on that particular night, at that particular place.
Come on let's be honest this is a fucking train wreck plain and simple. I love Johnny and Walter both super talented guys but the drugs absolutely destroyed Johnny by this point. Like Johnny Ramone said The Heartbreakers where are only competition in NY but I knew that wouldn't last long because they were all junkies.The Dolls could of been huge also it's almost like they sabotaged it
@@chuckydall9250that’s the point they were so in the moment till they weren’t they didn’t want the fame and fortune they wanted the party till downfall
@JeremyEntries The fuck they didn't lol every band wants to make it!! Do you think Johnny liked having to hustle people for his next shot of dope?? Do you think Walter enjoyed having a day job? Do you think Jerry was in 500 different bands because he enjoyed it?? They became a liability no label would risk signing them even though they had the potential to be huge you can't rely on a junkie to do anything on time. People same the nonsense about Kurt Cobain he didn't want the fame, etc, it's laughable. Kurt wanted to be able to be an active junkie and be in the biggest band in the world it's very hard to do both lol
Waldo was and still is the fucking man! last man standing for many reasons. the main ones being brains, common sense and a great sense of humor! GOD SAVE THE KINKS AND WALTER LURE!
Thankfully Walter cleaned up. He is the Heartbreakers in my opinion. All songs he wrote and sang on lamf are my faves... All by myself, get off the phone and one track mind are masterpieces
Totally agree! Walter and Jerry wrote those songs and Lure sings and plays most of the leads on those songs. The Waldos Rent Party cd is also awesome. Every time I seen them in the early '80's, Thunders was basically too wasted to play and Walter held up the fort. Rath on bass and Nolan on drums were also great. In this video I think that's Billy Rogers who was also solid
Johnny and Walter were the Heartbreakers to me, couldn’t have been done without either of them. Jerry was also the Heartbreakers, but Johnny and Walter had a nice contrast which made the group great. Jerry was the unspoken backbone to the group and once he was gone it wasn’t as good.
January 1983 Walter wasn't doing his Wall at gig yet. He was still a junky at this point. He started the financial gig after he hit rock bottom and moved back in with his parents. His dad urged him to clean up and got him and his brother the bank jobs in 1984.
@@keithglimmer4505 You're absolutely right for the chronology. I've had the idea that Walter got a diploma, or something like that, to work as a trader. And I've also heard Walter worked in the twin towers and the9/11, he was late coz he doesn't wake up like usual. Maybe the two stories are fake, don't know. But I'm sure Walter liked suits, and he loved R'n'R. He made me a better man with his great music, coz his music helped me to free my mind RIP Walter
Looks like Billy and Johnny did a fat line of some of Medellins finest shortly before this their pupils and jaw jacking sure look like it. This was the time period to get it if that was the case I know they loved dope but you gotta climb up sometimes as well.
Walter Lure worked in acquisitions on wall Street for over 30 yrs and retired a wealthy man.....in 1983 he was already working on wall Street and shooting dope . I believe he finally quit in 1989
I worked with Walter for 12 years and his brother Ritchie worked with us for a short time before Mr.Reaper caught up with him.Walter was a VP and Ritchie a supervisor.
Parece que Thunders está hablando de una novia que intenta matarlo o algo así. De todos modos, Thunders está arruinando la actuación y Walter Lure intenta controlar la situación con una risa levemente irritada.
Walter lo había bardeado en otro tema My sellf y thunders lo quedó mirando y nc que le dice xq tampoco entiendo inglés 😂😂 lastima que solo ay 2 videos de ese show
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Why do people watch this? I mean his teeth practically gone he wasn't himself at all. And you know his death is just terrible and lonely. I almost wish that everyone would take down these videos so we can look at New York dolls videos and see what he was... not what he became.
um... Jerry Nolan's not even there....thats a different drummer.....you can see what Dee dee Ramone meant about Johnny in this Period, so high from shooting coke he'd be totally out of step with the rest of the band
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This is more of a duel than it is duo!
And walter always wins
Nailed it
yeah but it was much we all had the same day by day Rest in Powder all of you see ya soon ☠️💣☠️
@@Releasethebats123 always
Think Walter is not happy Johnny hammered all the gear and didn't share any.
Love how Johnny randomly goes into "Pills" and Walter seamlessly transitions into it as well. What a train wreck but still an entertaining effort.
They would usually do it, even Walter in his last concerts playing LAMF would play Pills.
@@ocassionaljunkieforyou I had the misfortune of being born years after the Heartbreakers split up, but i alwayd thought the live videos of LAMF doing the transition into pills was like a callback to this show.
that makes the artist
Rest in Powder
☠️💣☠️
The melody of too much junkie business is the same as pills, and the idea foe the song was based on chuck berry's too much monkey business.
That's what made them great and that's what's completely gone out of music and rock and roll is spontaneity. My favorite album still is live at speakeasy that's a criminally underrated live rock and roll record!
Walter Lure should been a star.
He is.
Johnny & Walter the Frog n Toad of Rock n Roll. 91 23 4
@@punkisinthedetails1470 30 years dead
Rest in Powder
☠️💣☠️
I absolutely agree
He was in my mind and a Saint for putting up with Johnny lol
RIP Walter Lure... You will be missed.
Are any of these guys fuckin’ alive??
-Norm
@@evanabbott2737 Unfortunately no one's still alive. Walter was the last one of them.
David Johansson
David Johansen wasn't in this band
@@charlescase8325 true
Rip Walter Lure, thanks for everything, rest in punk!!!!!!
Johnny was a great guy when he was straight, and a helluva musician. Hung out with him. Richard Hell and Dee Dee back in the old days. Sad that 2 of the 3 are gone. I miss em.
When was JT straight? Loved the music, yet, always thought he and all those in his orbit were kinda tragic. I don’t blame JT for the choices others made, but I had several friends that idolized and hung out with him. They all had pretty short lives.
@@nyguy5370I think he was straight for some time in the dolls
At their height the Heartbreakers were the best band and rock and roll hands down. Walter lure made all the difference for this band.
Billy, at 2.10 - 'I'm off my head on coke, .gig seems to be going well', just keep playing' :)
@ Jerry liked to hold down the bottom end too.
My bad. I was in the room off the stage with the band. I can confirm the pre-show soiree.
Billy looked healthy and virile here. The needle and the damage done. Walter was the only one who successfully broke his addiction. R.I.P. The Heartbreakers
I met Billy Rath when he was playing bass for Iggy in 1980. Lovely fella. Jim Kerr was on the guest list with his Simple Minds new band. Kerry slagged me off for my Motorhead patch. Billy right over and asked what was wrong. I just said , oh this idiot here doesn't like Motorhead. Billy said. Hey ,Lemmys a good pal of mine. Shut up or you're out. Cheers Billy. Never forget that. Iggy was really friendly too. Took time to talk, explain the TV Eye album cover. As being from Some Weird Sin. Great night. Top
What about the TV Eye cover?
R.I.P.L.A.M.F. Waldo
The drummer deserves a cookie!
These guy's are the most wasted dude's i've ever seen i like it
RIP Walter Lure
Man i haven't seen many living Junkies lookin as bad as Johnny right here and ive seen my share
Looking like too much speedball business!
@@beauyerks7413 He was looking not really healthy but we all had the same days sometimes good/less anyway Rest in Powder
☠️💣☠️
@@concatinate Oh yeah, more blame on the coke than the dope here.
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Great Johnny!
This is brilliant
Well, the drama of the personalities aside, the bottom line is this is flipping great and amazing rock and roll. Lotsa people don't get what that means, and many do, but it's about the spirit of the thing. Of the song and the musicians and how it all came together on that particular night, at that particular place.
Yeah this is a fucking gig!
Come on let's be honest this is a fucking train wreck plain and simple. I love Johnny and Walter both super talented guys but the drugs absolutely destroyed Johnny by this point. Like Johnny Ramone said The Heartbreakers where are only competition in NY but I knew that wouldn't last long because they were all junkies.The Dolls could of been huge also it's almost like they sabotaged it
@@chuckydall9250that’s the point they were so in the moment till they weren’t they didn’t want the fame and fortune they wanted the party till downfall
@JeremyEntries The fuck they didn't lol every band wants to make it!! Do you think Johnny liked having to hustle people for his next shot of dope?? Do you think Walter enjoyed having a day job? Do you think Jerry was in 500 different bands because he enjoyed it?? They became a liability no label would risk signing them even though they had the potential to be huge you can't rely on a junkie to do anything on time. People same the nonsense about Kurt Cobain he didn't want the fame, etc, it's laughable. Kurt wanted to be able to be an active junkie and be in the biggest band in the world it's very hard to do both lol
@@chuckydall9250like I said they were in the moment and then their moment was lost
00:51 Billy's face LOL
if anyone knows about junkie business it's this train wreck....but what a lovely train wreck it was. RIP Johnny, Waldo and Billy!!
Wow this was a train wreck . Couldn’t stop watching!
Rip Walter. My old buddy
Gotta love the guys they focused on in the audience who "definitely aren't cops".
it's funny this is almost 40 years old and nothing will ever get more punk rock
lol
This is how Pete Doherty thought the libertines would come across.
Lmfao 100% and it DID NOT.
Wow!!! That’s some serious jack-jaw right there.
I'm just smacked and watch this video. I like the way Walter looked to Johnny
Walter Lure was very professional. You would ask the Thunders how many fingers are on his right hand and he would tell you "Thursday".
Too much Junkie Business indeed!
2:06 - 2:10 Billy grooving like a badass motherfucker.
Waldo was and still is the fucking man! last man standing for many reasons. the main ones being brains, common sense and a great sense of humor! GOD SAVE THE KINKS AND WALTER LURE!
Legends
Thankfully Walter cleaned up. He is the Heartbreakers in my opinion. All songs he wrote and sang on lamf are my faves... All by myself, get off the phone and one track mind are masterpieces
Totally agree! Walter and Jerry wrote those songs and Lure sings and plays most of the leads on those songs. The Waldos Rent Party cd is also awesome. Every time I seen them in the early '80's, Thunders was basically too wasted to play and Walter held up the fort. Rath on bass and Nolan on drums were also great. In this video I think that's Billy Rogers who was also solid
I agree. Lure is great guitar player and songwriter. Live in the Boston area gotta go see him soon..
Johnny and Walter were the Heartbreakers to me, couldn’t have been done without either of them. Jerry was also the Heartbreakers, but Johnny and Walter had a nice contrast which made the group great. Jerry was the unspoken backbone to the group and once he was gone it wasn’t as good.
he was also down.to.kill lol...so jerry nolan was so strung out he needed a stand in? 😊
@@888strummerhope all is well 4 years later. I miss waldo
Believe me...Johnny Thunders is feelin goood!..don’t ask me how I know...
Probably thinks he's really killin' it!
@@aliceborealis oh yes...he thinks he’s doing a ok 👍lol
Apt title by the looks of Thunders
sad, what a terrible state Thunders is in. Saw him live just before he died at the Marquee, he fell off the stage. Talent wrecked by drugs
Nothing will ever come close to this. Everyone here knows what I mean
Haha. I just realised the audience are Walters colleagues from Wall Street . Look at the suits, ties and haircuts.
Def. the guys in the audience look confused
Patrick Bateman types...
January 1983 Walter wasn't doing his Wall at gig yet. He was still a junky at this point. He started the financial gig after he hit rock bottom and moved back in with his parents. His dad urged him to clean up and got him and his brother the bank jobs in 1984.
@@keithglimmer4505 You're absolutely right for the chronology. I've had the idea that Walter got a diploma, or something like that, to work as a trader. And I've also heard Walter worked in the twin towers and the9/11, he was late coz he doesn't wake up like usual. Maybe the two stories are fake, don't know. But I'm sure Walter liked suits, and he loved R'n'R. He made me a better man with his great music, coz his music helped me to free my mind
RIP Walter
Wow, death on the doorstep.....
Waldo looking great here
classic
i know this is a disaster but it's precious when johnny corrects walter messing up the lyrics
he’s actually a bit salty walter directed the lyrics towards him 😂
@@thequeenisalizard6976 If the shoe fits...
what a train wreck! I love it!
Don't do drugs kids. These guys have done enough of them for us all.
Eternamente estará em nossa vida....pena que não pode viver até o fim...antecipou a viagem...RIP
R.I.P. Waldo
Too much coke here, Johnny! 🖤 🌹 🎸💉
TooMuchJunk!
From PAUL TSCHINKEL'S INNER'TUBE as taped at CBGB's
i shoulda been in this band
I don't know how Waldo did this
Damn was he sending Johnny a message.
Fuckin amazing.
Planet Thunders.
Heroin much, John Hinckley in the audience
Yeah, thought that guy resembled someone
@@jerrymerritt5698 Come on, I don't think Hinckley frequented CBGB's.
This was 82/83. Hinckley was already in jail by this time.
❤ Walter Lure
Too many speed-balls!!!
Johnny is chewing invisible gum!! Coke is a hell of a drug! Look at the one guitar player, he is zooming!!
William Schutz he lipped it
Looks like Billy and Johnny did a fat line of some of Medellins finest shortly before this their pupils and jaw jacking sure look like it. This was the time period to get it if that was the case I know they loved dope but you gotta climb up sometimes as well.
*fat shot
0:53 Billy Rath face 🧐🙄
Johnny Rules. The rest rationalize.
this is fucking hilarious
back when you didn't need an MBA or a PhD from an Ivy league school to work on wallstreet. ;-;. I wish I was born back then.
lol that Walter lure
He had an in. There's always been an 'ol boy' system on Wall ST. He just knew the right people.
Wall street was still in Walters future at this gig. He's still a punk rock junky here.
Walter Lure worked in acquisitions on wall Street for over 30 yrs and retired a wealthy man.....in 1983 he was already working on wall Street and shooting dope . I believe he finally quit in 1989
I worked with Walter for 12 years and his brother Ritchie worked with us for a short time before Mr.Reaper caught up with him.Walter was a VP and Ritchie a supervisor.
Where is Jerry Nolan?
I love johnny and the heartbreakers kinda sad seeing him so fucked up☹
RIP Walter Lure
🍿🍿🍿
Walter doing his one-man band bit
Second show of the evening was Johnnys mouth
😍
Este video es arte
Sad autumn
RIP Walter
Que alguien me explique porfavor porque casi se pelean? No entiendo ingles 🙏
Parece que Thunders está hablando de una novia que intenta matarlo o algo así. De todos modos, Thunders está arruinando la actuación y Walter Lure intenta controlar la situación con una risa levemente irritada.
Walter lo había bardeado en otro tema My sellf y thunders lo quedó mirando y nc que le dice xq tampoco entiendo inglés 😂😂 lastima que solo ay 2 videos de ese show
Hilarious!
@ldyson22 : Walter Lure , the original "Jordan Belfort".
What a mess. Looking back at it is hard
John douching it up.
Go Waldo!
Vincent Kilpatrick nah..I love the energy between the two. sorry but this is perfect!
too much junk!
Were can you get pills studio virsion
it's a song the new york dolls did on their first album - johnny was in that band too
Johnny looking like a bat
kek
Johnny must hav been tough for Walter to take at times
johnny was great, but waldo was awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They destroyed that.. anyone got the backstory on this?
Johnny's face tells the whole story
TOO MUCH #ADVERTS ON HERE BUSINESS! 😂
TOO MUCH BATTLE TALK 🤣🤣
mastica come un ruminante talmente è preso dalla coca !!!! uno speed che più ne tiri giù e più ti tira su,,,,,,,,+,,,,,,,,,, mitica band ,, alle radici del protopunk americano,, po poo ton efaye ena speedball,,,,,, krima ,,+,, r i p magka ,,
Wow really meta.
Stratosferic band 🎸 the best protopunk 💉💊🎼 yeah 💉💊☄️
"Now you're dead...I love you."
The Smack is running.... 🤪
Beatle - Bopper speed balling to the grave
CBs or Great Gildersleeves?
By Paul Tschinkel at CBGBs
Filmed by the great Paul Tschinkel at CBGBs. Recognize the style.
Kids - don't do drugs
Walter Lure Pills
Why do people watch this? I mean his teeth practically gone he wasn't himself at all. And you know his death is just terrible and lonely. I almost wish that everyone would take down these videos so we can look at New York dolls videos and see what he was... not what he became.
probably important to remember what happened to him... a lesson for any JT wannabe
@@chrisprice9244 Yeah I think I can love with that
So Thunders got upset and thought he'd 'show him who's boss'..IN HIS HEAD !!. In reality just fucking up the song and making an unlistenable noise.
he's having fun... he's high as a Georgia pine and clearly is the boss. "fucking up" a Johnny thunders gig would be redundant.
I love Johnny but he seems to be a pain in the arse in this particular performance
rough
Heroin only one winner its not you lost my favourite star of all time
who is playing the drums here?
billy rogers
Jerry Nolan is laughing his ass off at thunders and lure.
um... Jerry Nolan's not even there....thats a different drummer.....you can see what Dee dee Ramone meant about Johnny in this Period, so high from shooting coke he'd be totally out of step with the rest of the band
sorry. thought it was Nolan.
@TAZÒN darkparanoid85 its Billy*
En faite elle ne fais qu'être une illusion morbite.
Completely fucked up and still playing
En bref la drogue n'a point d'amis parce quel en a rien à ciré. La fin sera l'œuvre de la mort. : la faucheuse.
A walking corpse!!!