Against Annihilationism: The New Testament - Thomas Farrar
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Suan Sonna is a Baptist convert to Catholicism who is dedicated to curating the best Catholic intellectual content on philosophy, politics, and theology. He is also passionate about engaging people outside of the Catholic tradition on issues relevant to the Church.
Suan, this 2-episode series is 🔥 Very interesting stuff.
As much as I am interested in this topic, I am gravely disappointed that there may be no cute kitty cat content in this video.
“As in Adam all die, in Christ all will be made alive.” 1 Cor 15:22
And?
@@RedRoosterRoman If everyone is made alive in Christ, that would seem to preclude that some people dying forever.
@@bman5257 there are two parallel contingencies here.
If you are in Adam you will die.
If you are in Christ you will live.
All who meet the contingencies receive the outcome.
(I am Catholic and reject annihilationism; I just don't think this verse is relevant one way or the other?)
@@bman5257 but like you said; "dying forever"
As in... Forever... All eternity... You are DYING in Hell.
Not ceasing to exist.
@@RedRoosterRoman Notice the word all though. In Adam ALL die. In Christ ALL are made alive.
WOW! His name is Fudge for real?😮 Isn't it coincidental that, Mr. Fudge believes in a fudgey version of Hell ?😢 Our Lady of Fatima showed the three children visionaries, Hell, where poor sinners go! Their response was to pray and give up as much as possible in sacrifice, for the souls in Purgatory, and also to help sinners avoid Hell ! Anyone who does not believe in the Catholic version of Hell should study these accounts, as this was a Cataclysmic experience for these little children, greatly affecting their lives, from then on!
🙏 Sr. Lucia, St. Francisco and St. Jacinta, pray, for the truth about Hell to prevail! Asking this in the name of Jesus. Amen
Are we to think that anyone not already Catholic would come to believe in the evil doctrine of hell simply because something crazy happened at Fatima and 3 already-Catholic children think they saw hell? Be honest. You're Catholic first, then find evidence to support it.
Why not Eastern Orthodoxy?
Because they do not have pope.
Annihilationism, while less evil than ECT, is evil. A loving God would guarantee that all creatures attain salvation. When the smoke clears and the dust settles, everyone will see that Origen and Gregory of Nyssa were right all along.
It’s admirable to hope that those who appear to die in unrepentant sin (many people in history) had some extraordinary final chance where they turn toward grace, but until we get to the end of time it remains just a hope. For any who go to hell, it is because of their final impenitence. They are in a constant state of rejecting the good that God wants to give them. If God could offer them a chance out, they wouldn’t want it, and that’s the problem, they can even admit their mistakes that led to their torment, but this doesn’t stop them from hating God. God in love would not force them into his presence where they hate him, so respecting his own gift of freedom he gives them what they want, eternal separation.
The devil’s mission stems from his failure of a rebellion, now his goal is to drag as many humans down with him to hell as possible as his way of destroying what God loves. When a wicked man with deep hatred in his heart meets the loving gaze of Jesus, will he repent and embrace the life Jesus wants to give or will he love his cold, dark, lonely suffering more? We in our right mind would jump at the opportunity, but the devil is an expert at making us not be in our right mind and leading us to despair. Hell isn’t about a God mad at us for doing bad, but God doing all he could to give us his life, to suffer and die even for those who he knew would forever betray his passion.
If Origen and St. Gregory were right, then Jesus lied when He claimed He would guide the Church into “all truth”.
@@killianmiller6107 , the free will defense is crap, and you know it. It's not one's fault that their will is indeterministic and unpredictable. We have the free will to take the sinless or sinful path (on any given forking path), but ultimately it ends up the same. Even the devil will make it to heaven. There is no eternal hell.
@@declansceltic198 , that doesn't follow. He didn't say all branches of the catholic church would be right about all issues at all times. Eventually, even the most hardened infernalists, like Augustine and Aquinas, will embrace the truth of universalism. So the church will be universalist.
@@ObsidianTeen If you’re twisting Jesus’ words so that 90% of all Churches have been wrong about a core doctrine, and God has done NOTHING, you have absolutely no defence against an Arian or a Mormon