@@tonysheerness2427 x 20,000... at the least! Don't forget, HighLevel Radioactive Waste is dangerous for hundreds of thousands of years. And modern concrete only lasts a few hundred years. Thus, we're able to keep ourselves safe, and maybe our kids and grand-kids, but sooner or later that radiation is getting into the ground-water. To put it in perspective, if the first HomoSapiens had used nuclear 200,000 to 300,000 years ago, it would still not be a good idea to go anywhere near their high-level waste, or drink nearby ground-water.
Environmental bonds should be absolutely required for renewables. Albo’s merchant bank mates running large scale solar and wind getting another freebie at the expense of taxpayers.
@@downtoearth1950 No so much with the coal mines. Mining companies do have to invest big money into a trust and that money only gets released on rehab. Like was said at the start of this video. Coal mines I have worked at will do rehab as it progresses. Renewables are going to cost the taxpayers an absolute fortune. Funnily enough also you get rid of the coal miners and the 40-50g tax each person is paying a year and guess what, less money for the government to blow on renewables.
@@downtoearth1950 Not so with coal mines. There are plenty of examples where coal mine remediation work has taken place and is first class. First the land was fenced, grassed, trees planted and finally cattle were introduced. To the untrained eye you would never know the land has been disturbed. Maybe the negative comments are from people that live in a city and never venture out.
I saw a video recently where they showed masses of damaged or no longer serviceable wind turbine blades , and they where just stored in paddock because apparently there is no recycling for gigantic fibreglass blades , and these things are bigger than a semi trailer , not to mention they do wear out , break , and have a limited service life , and so need to be replaced periodically. So if Albo and Bowen ( Huey and Dewey ) are planning on having in excess of 17000 of these wind turbines with 3 blades on each windmill , let’s say in 15 years all those blades may need replacement…. Do the maths , that is 17000 times 3 sets of blades , that’s 51000 massive blades . If they are just dumped on land and let to rot how many acres of land will that need ? Should they pay some company to shred them , where are they going to put them , as I believe fibreglass would not be allowed in land fill . As always when politicians tell you the good bits to get votes , they leave out the bad bits .
When i was approached by an Italian wind turbine company, 18 months ago, to install turbines on our prime farming land in northern Victoria, the very first question i asked was "Where is the bond kept?" Would it be in a transparent account? "Bond?" They said, "There's no Bond". I said, "ok, how do you guarantee you have the funds to decommission these tower's and rehabilitate the farm?" They said "After 15 years we divert a portion of the profits into an account, so we have the funds available in 25 years". I said "What if you go broke in 10 yrs?" Their response? "Well, you can cut them up for scrap iron, and remove them yourself". My response, "But you just said, there mortgaged to the ANZ Bank for $120,000,000 ?". "I don't think the ANZ bank will agree to that" Their response? "It will be ok, just trust us......."
Only 8% of Australia is farming land and they want to blanket the land with these things and solar panels. Why is no one concerned about the loss of both farmland and wildlife habitat?
the towers are not made of iron , nor are the blades, i think the iron or steel in a wind turbine would be minimal. why would they build new one in a different location. i don't trust this comment .
Company I work for did s study on wind generation, it's not profitable! They actually only have a 7-10 year life, and can never pay for themselves! We've invested in solar, and bio, to supplement our power generation!
@@tonysheerness2427 *_GWH24X-12.X_* "Launched by Chinese manufacturer Goldwind, this turbine is expected to be the world's largest onshore wind turbine once installed, with a capacity of 12 MW." (Google AI)
The Great Con, renewables. Even if it's in the contract, if they get sold to new companies, this condition is not always passed on into new contracts. Don't believe me. Look at places like California and in the north sea ect. Were thousands are just sitting abandoned.
Saw a vid about wind turbines. The principle is simple but the mechanics are insanely complicated. The windmill is slow rotation with high torque. A gearbox increases the rpm to around 1000 to drive the generator. The generator has to rotate at the right speed to produce 60 cycle AC.
To add to your good points. The output has to be rectified, then turned back into AC, to match grid, frequency and phase. Typically this would be done in a substation, combining several turbine outputs. Or an alternative system, where they implement complex systems in the turbine and control the output there.
Images of bygone economies: 2000--a decaying steel mill 2100--an otherwise-beautiful landscape studded with giant metal poles, with the blades having fallen off decades ago
So, it would take roughly 1,400 to 1,500 wind turbines, each with a 2 MW capacity and operating at a 35% capacity factor, to produce the same amount of energy as a typical 1,000 MW nuclear power plant. Just the amount of land required for those turbines is massive. Roughly 8.5 million solar panels would be required.
UK turbines in the North Sea suffer badly from blade erosion from sea spray of sharp salt crystals, which erodes the leading edge of the blades, requiring engineers to hang down the blades and fill them with resin, then shape them to the aerodynamic profile. A very costly job, being taken in diesel powered specially constructed ships, to give the engineers a convenient rest/comfort/eating station
Some estimate that the life span of a wind turbine can be as little as 8 years. On a basis of power output over the given lifespan it's got to be cheaper to dispose of waste from a nuclear power plant.
NOBODY talks about the avian wildlife destruction, Birds cannot detect or compute the speed of the blades to avoid them. The blades have built in strength to destroy bird life
@@michaeljoncour4903 Wind turbines kill large birds that eat cats and roost on skyscrapers and other high up places. They're like a magnet for eagles and other soaring birds that are naturally drawn to them. In this way, they are a devestating alteration to the natural emvironment, overshadowed only by the effects of DDT on large birds of prey.
Solar water heaters work here in the desert but most sold were overdesigned and too expensive. In a lot of places they just stick a water tank on the roof and have hot water. They can't make much money doing that though.
Labor has not factored in the decommissioning of wind and solar as they hope they won't be in power and if they are they will just blame the party before them for the costs.
Unless something has changed in the past decade last time I checked didn't we only have less than 10% of Australian land as good farm land? Why are they risking our food supply, Should be considered a national security threat building all these turbines on good soil.
Only 6% of Australia's total land area is classified as agricultural land. And not all of that is prime arable land. The use of farmland for installing solar, wind and BESS backup is actually in direct contravention of the Paris Agreement.
So a homeowner who puts solar panels on the roof of his house is responsible for the decommissioning of the panels after 25 years. What do they do with the defunct panels?
In the US, its the same. The farmer gets stuck with the bill. You should see what happens when they get hit by tornadoes. A Storm Chaser, Reed Timmer got Fantastic footage of a Tornado ripping through the turbines this summer. They tore apart like paper and several caught on fire. It was a mess.
But, but, renewables are renewable and CO2 neutral. > On the flip side imagine if we spent half of that government money going to green renewable concrete and plastic on Nuclear :)
@@1rez378 Trees are renewable... And burn good on a fire, and make hot water, and with a bit of cleverness make steam to run a generator. I spent a large part of my life planting trees to save my future... With energy prices and the renewables push I guess it's the future and I will be cashing in soon :P
The federal government ought to mandate that from now - for any windmill that is not covered by a "decommissioning bond" - that 10% of the revenue they earn will be set aside as a bond until the amount garnisheed covers the expected cost of decommissioning. This would also protect us from a company simply declaring insolvency and walking away when it has exhausted the revenue from the turbines, leaving Joe Public to pick up the bill.
That is the big secret. A 5 MW tubine needs about 900 cubic yards of concrete. They plant grass on top of it to satisfy the greenies. But that $600,000 decomissioning cost does not include removal of that concrete. They just bury it if it is not reused.
It was an excellent idea! It was done with the best of intentions! What could possibly go wrong? Something that I presented at length in my lectures as a university professor, that is what are the possible consequences of your actions or product? And not just the one that you meant to occur.
This was well known before installing these. The life span is much shorter than they expected. The government knew full well about this probably for years.
The world needs a complete RESET when it comes to executive salaries. Starting around 1980, the ratio of CEO salaries to average worker salaries start to climb then explode. They are effectively STEALING from shareholders. And the big investment funds allow it. Remember they are JUST EMPLOYEES. and yet they get given absurd amounts of free shares and options with ZERO downside. If there is no downside, then we MUST eliminate 80% of the upside they are given by the Board of Directors. If the companies don't do it voluntarily and IMMEDIATELY, then the government needs to step in and FORCES the issue, with maximums set for CEO and senior executive salaries, taking them back close to where they were back in 1980. Many of these CEOs don't even knw what they are doing, and often do NOT add value. Just look how many supposedly well educated CEOs have gone WOKE in the past few years, utterly destroying shareholder value in the BILLIONS.
This is just sheer stupidity. They don’t take it into account because it would make the cheap power much more expensive. So then the farmer and taxpayer is stuck with the bill. Yet the people who sold the power make a fortune on them. What a scam.
Someone should ask the government what the 20GW of utility storage, for 2035, is in the AEMO integrated system plan p11 graph. They haven't specified a technology, even though we will have blackouts every day without it.
Same with nuclear. They never factor in decommissioning costs or liability in the case of an accident. They need to be honest about the costs the taxpayers and ratepayers on are the hook for.
Close to my home in Washington state there is a wind farm that is little over 20 years old. They are Repowering the wind turbines so they can get another 20 years or what ever it gives them.
Has this happened yet? If the turbines are already 20 years old they will not be compatible with the newer technology. The latest turbines are much bigger too. It's likely that they will simply build the new turbines on the existing property. What happened to the obsolete turbines? Are they actually going to remove them? Who pays for the decommissioning and land rehabilitation? Typically the old turbines are left to rot because of the high cost of removal and disposal.
Wind turbines have a average ten year lifespan. And only survive with taxpayer money. So your taxes pay for the turbine and your monthly enrings to pay your electric bill.
Excessive decommissioning costs were used to kill off nuclear, the only sensible long term zero CO2 power generating technology which when either the eco zealots stop the use of hydrocarbons or the hydrocarbons become too expensive will be essential.
That's the other problem with this from wind, solar and batteries. All well and good to make it but recycling all of that or disposal of it is a different matter. Are you going to just ship it to another country to deal with the toxic waste like ewaste.
China has never been known for good grade steel or glass yet we have to pay for this crap. Bring on Dutton and Nuclear. I'm 57yo and Labor has not had a good track record (or rarely) in all my years. I'm ashamed to admit that even Hanson would be a better pick than what we have now.
A coal powerstation was decommissioned in South Australia. The coal ash was just left and is still polluting the town and will be for centuries not to mention the coal mine itself a blot on the landscape forever. Who pays????
The toxic waste from wind turbines, solar panels and BESS backup will amount to far more waste than coal mines ever would. They create massive amounts of toxic waste from the mining of necessary materials to build renewables infrastructure, processing of these materials, manufacturing, installation and end-of-life disposal. You need many times more of this infrastructure to match the capacity of coal, gas or nuclear and even then, it doesn't matter how much you install it doesn't work at all if the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing.
What is it about young Australians these days, especially those in the media? They have the weirdest diction, only a faint resemblance to a traditional Aussie accent.
Where there's a trough,
There will be pigs......
the biggest scam
Almost biggest.
Do you remember removing hairspray or aerosol cause hole in ozone ? Oops wrong scientifically proven &
now it's climate change...
about time someone is showing the true costs of wind turbines, they are a joke
And the true cost of Nuclear is?
@@ChrisHUTTON-zc4br 24 x7 x 365 for 50 years plus. I would rather have nuclear.
Money being literally blown away.
@@maggiecalos4101 However it is always the people who lose out not the politicians.
@@tonysheerness2427 x 20,000... at the least!
Don't forget, HighLevel Radioactive Waste is dangerous for hundreds of thousands of years. And modern concrete only lasts a few hundred years.
Thus, we're able to keep ourselves safe, and maybe our kids and grand-kids, but sooner or later that radiation is getting into the ground-water.
To put it in perspective, if the first HomoSapiens had used nuclear 200,000 to 300,000 years ago, it would still not be a good idea to go anywhere near their high-level waste, or drink nearby ground-water.
“Man made financial science warming”
Environmental bonds should be absolutely required for renewables. Albo’s merchant bank mates running large scale solar and wind getting another freebie at the expense of taxpayers.
Who do you think will be running Nuclear?? Duttons mates
You left out Albos Chinese mates
But that would drive up the cost of the energy produced and we must save the planet at any cost the sky is falling don't you know?
I bet there is some shitty agreement Bowen has signed us up to, that because they are foreign owned they are exempt.
I said it before, these wind farm companies,will declare bankruptcy,and the taxpayer will end up paying the decommissioning costs. I am in the UK.
The same has happened everywhere with coal mines and coal power stations
@@downtoearth1950 No so much with the coal mines. Mining companies do have to invest big money into a trust and that money only gets released on rehab. Like was said at the start of this video. Coal mines I have worked at will do rehab as it progresses. Renewables are going to cost the taxpayers an absolute fortune. Funnily enough also you get rid of the coal miners and the 40-50g tax each person is paying a year and guess what, less money for the government to blow on renewables.
@@downtoearth1950 Not so with coal mines. There are plenty of examples where coal mine remediation work has taken place and is first class. First the land was fenced, grassed, trees planted and finally cattle were introduced. To the untrained eye you would never know the land has been disturbed. Maybe the negative comments are from people that live in a city and never venture out.
They did it back in the 70s in Southern California. Abandoned windmills everywhere........
You are wise.
They are f'ing eye sores on the landscape...& seascapes.
I saw a video recently where they showed masses of damaged or no longer serviceable wind turbine blades , and they where just stored in paddock because apparently there is no recycling for gigantic fibreglass blades , and these things are bigger than a semi trailer , not to mention they do wear out , break , and have a limited service life , and so need to be replaced periodically.
So if Albo and Bowen ( Huey and Dewey ) are planning on having in excess of 17000 of these wind turbines with 3 blades on each windmill , let’s say in 15 years all those blades may need replacement…. Do the maths , that is 17000 times 3 sets of blades , that’s 51000 massive blades .
If they are just dumped on land and let to rot how many acres of land will that need ?
Should they pay some company to shred them , where are they going to put them , as I believe fibreglass would not be allowed in land fill .
As always when politicians tell you the good bits to get votes , they leave out the bad bits .
ON the plus side there is little left but toxic waste when they burn,still what are the chances of that ?
When i was approached by an Italian wind turbine company, 18 months ago, to install turbines on our prime farming land in northern Victoria, the very first question i asked was "Where is the bond kept?"
Would it be in a transparent account?
"Bond?" They said, "There's no Bond".
I said, "ok, how do you guarantee you have the funds to decommission these tower's and rehabilitate the farm?"
They said "After 15 years we divert a portion of the profits into an account, so we have the funds available in 25 years".
I said "What if you go broke in 10 yrs?"
Their response?
"Well, you can cut them up for scrap iron, and remove them yourself".
My response, "But you just said, there mortgaged to the ANZ Bank for $120,000,000 ?".
"I don't think the ANZ bank will agree to that"
Their response?
"It will be ok, just trust us......."
Yeah, just trust us...
Only 8% of Australia is farming land and they want to blanket the land with these things and solar panels. Why is no one concerned about the loss of both farmland and wildlife habitat?
It's outrageous !!
Needless to say, I told him to flock off.
Not that I would have had anything to do with the stupid windfarm, at any price
the towers are not made of iron , nor are the blades, i think the iron or steel in a wind turbine would be minimal. why would they build new one in a different location. i don't trust this comment .
Money laundering.
I agree.
Wind Turbine, 15, 20 year life.... New Generation Nuclear Plant life, up to 70 years...
100+ years of life for uranium-fired power reactors.
@@aliendroneservices6621 I've seen 70.. 100 is even better...
Company I work for did s study on wind generation, it's not profitable! They actually only have a 7-10 year life, and can never pay for themselves! We've invested in solar, and bio, to supplement our power generation!
Plus how many megawatts do they produce? Maximum 7 for a wind turbine.
@@tonysheerness2427 *_GWH24X-12.X_*
"Launched by Chinese manufacturer Goldwind, this turbine is expected to be the world's largest onshore wind turbine once installed, with a capacity of 12 MW." (Google AI)
It’s the dirtiest joke in the history of energy provision…filthy dirty ruining our landscape.
The Levelized Cost is never considered, when they claim renewables are cheaper
Wow, Green energy is the modern snake oil......
In London we have a Victorian beam engine pump that pumps shit. It's beautiful and is still doing it's job. Just saying.
Can it be loaned to Chris Bowen? He seems to have ample need of it.
Would that be the Abbey Road pumping station by any chance east london
This is the dumbest thing ever . The amount of birds killed is atrocious saving the world . The cost never bring back anything.
renewable folly? thanks, but no thanks
Add those costs to the cost of mining materials and construction then multiply by the hundreds of thousands of wind generators. What a deal 😂😂😂
Then subtract the healthcare savings by not poisoning the earth with fossil fuel emissions and the balance swings the other way.
What a Bloody mess we are in😡
The Great Con, renewables. Even if it's in the contract, if they get sold to new companies, this condition is not always passed on into new contracts. Don't believe me. Look at places like California and in the north sea ect. Were thousands are just sitting abandoned.
dont forget all the micro plastics that are released into the air from wind turbines
Also fibre glass washing up on pristine beaches
Saw a vid about wind turbines. The principle is simple but the mechanics are insanely complicated. The windmill is slow rotation with high torque. A gearbox increases the rpm to around 1000 to drive the generator. The generator has to rotate at the right speed to produce 60 cycle AC.
To add to your good points. The output has to be rectified, then turned back into AC, to match grid, frequency and phase. Typically this would be done in a substation, combining several turbine outputs.
Or an alternative system, where they implement complex systems in the turbine and control the output there.
Images of bygone economies: 2000--a decaying steel mill 2100--an otherwise-beautiful landscape studded with giant metal poles, with the blades having fallen off decades ago
And the oceans.
So, it would take roughly 1,400 to 1,500 wind turbines, each with a 2 MW capacity and operating at a 35% capacity factor, to produce the same amount of energy as a typical 1,000 MW nuclear power plant. Just the amount of land required for those turbines is massive.
Roughly 8.5 million solar panels would be required.
Now if only we elected representatives who could do simple math or think about the consequences of their legislation.
UK turbines in the North Sea suffer badly from blade erosion from sea spray of sharp salt crystals, which erodes the leading edge of the blades, requiring engineers to hang down the blades and fill them with resin, then shape them to the aerodynamic profile. A very costly job, being taken in diesel powered specially constructed ships, to give the engineers a convenient rest/comfort/eating station
There are some appalling images out of California of wind installations which are run down and left to stand for decades.
They have been a waste of money from the word go !
Some estimate that the life span of a wind turbine can be as little as 8 years. On a basis of power output over the given lifespan it's got to be cheaper to dispose of waste from a nuclear power plant.
Wait till you see the cost of decommissioning each turbine in an offshore wind farm. $$$$$
Finally getting to the other side of the coin on the matter.
They were all predictable but we all have to bow down to the green revolution.
But Labor now want to buy petrol stations in Qld, yet next breath want u to buy EV's ?? Wtf ..which is it ??😮
Green New Scam
South Western Victoria’s landscape looks like a wind turbine vomit. They have destroyed the natural beauty of the land.
These were put out to screw over elec costs and now to steal properties
Wow, who would have thought that grifters would have a viable project.
NOBODY talks about the avian wildlife destruction, Birds cannot detect or compute the speed of the blades to avoid them. The blades have built in strength to destroy bird life
nobody talks about the millions of birds killed by windows and cats either .
@@michaeljoncour4903 Wind turbines kill large birds that eat cats and roost on skyscrapers and other high up places. They're like a magnet for eagles and other soaring birds that are naturally drawn to them. In this way, they are a devestating alteration to the natural emvironment, overshadowed only by the effects of DDT on large birds of prey.
yep, you'll own nothing, everything is going beautifully as planned.
What is the carbon footprint for decommissioning…I’m sure it is all done with renewables
Alan Joyce should not get any money, it should be paid to people lost their job
So, like the solar hot water systems of the 1980s, all this may be a passing fad?
80's Lol
Remember removing hairspray or aerosol cans ? Hole in ozone crap that now changed to climate change scam.
Solar water heaters work here in the desert but most sold were overdesigned and too expensive. In a lot of places they just stick a water tank on the roof and have hot water. They can't make much money doing that though.
@@neilreynolds3858 All the hot water production savings goes out the window when to cost of operating the water pump motor.
Labor has not factored in the decommissioning of wind and solar as they hope they won't be in power and if they are they will just blame the party before them for the costs.
A good idea does not need taxpayers money to work !
Unless something has changed in the past decade last time I checked didn't we only have less than 10% of Australian land as good farm land?
Why are they risking our food supply, Should be considered a national security threat building all these turbines on good soil.
Only 6% of Australia's total land area is classified as agricultural land. And not all of that is prime arable land. The use of farmland for installing solar, wind and BESS backup is actually in direct contravention of the Paris Agreement.
Alan Joyce is not worth $1 The pie in the face was fair enough. He destroyed Qantas.
So a homeowner who puts solar panels on the roof of his house is responsible for the decommissioning of the panels after 25 years.
What do they do with the defunct panels?
In the US, its the same. The farmer gets stuck with the bill. You should see what happens when they get hit by tornadoes. A Storm Chaser, Reed Timmer got Fantastic footage of a Tornado ripping through the turbines this summer. They tore apart like paper and several caught on fire. It was a mess.
But, but, renewables are renewable and CO2 neutral.
>
On the flip side imagine if we spent half of that government money going to green renewable concrete and plastic on Nuclear :)
Renewable as in has to be frequently replaced over and over again
@@1rez378Also during servicing changing out the gearbox oil which is a fossil fuel.
@@1rez378 Trees are renewable... And burn good on a fire, and make hot water, and with a bit of cleverness make steam to run a generator.
I spent a large part of my life planting trees to save my future... With energy prices and the renewables push I guess it's the future and I will be cashing in soon :P
He probably eats imported beef, and that might use up a few millions.
He obviously has more expensive needs than most of us.....poor fellow...!!
The federal government ought to mandate that from now - for any windmill that is not covered by a "decommissioning bond" - that 10% of the revenue they earn will be set aside as a bond until the amount garnisheed covers the expected cost of decommissioning.
This would also protect us from a company simply declaring insolvency and walking away when it has exhausted the revenue from the turbines, leaving Joe Public to pick up the bill.
Cheapest form of energy 😂😂😂😂😂
WEF wil force governments to keep going with them.
In the USA also land owners, primarily farmers, are paid $5-10K/unit/year
The savings from using wind turbines must surely pay for decommissioning. Right?
Are these company’s being told to hand back those billions of dollars the government gave them for failed contracts
At this point it would be better just to print more money then burn it for endless power.
That is the big secret. A 5 MW tubine needs about 900 cubic yards of concrete. They plant grass on top of it to satisfy the greenies.
But that $600,000 decomissioning cost does not include removal of that concrete. They just bury it if it is not reused.
It was an excellent idea! It was done with the best of intentions! What could possibly go wrong?
Something that I presented at length in my lectures as a university professor, that is what are the possible consequences of your actions or product? And not just the one that you meant to occur.
Add the cost of the unit/ maintence / and add the decommission cost. Now subtract that amount from worth it made electrically and that is what it is.
This was well known before installing these. The life span is much shorter than they expected. The government knew full well about this probably for years.
This is f-ing insane and it has to STOP.
To see the deterioration in QANTAS over the last 15 years or so is so disappointing.
Who wants a gigantic windmill in their backyard no one, oh you want them in other people's back yards.
If a blade breaks it can cost $600,000 to replace. If a wind turbine catches fire the insurance company can insist the whole turbine farm is closed.
Thats the cost now, what will the cost be in 15 years to decommission a wind turbine.
In the USA theyre buried in Iowa
The world needs a complete RESET when it comes to executive salaries.
Starting around 1980, the ratio of CEO salaries to average worker salaries start to climb then
explode.
They are effectively STEALING from shareholders. And the big investment funds allow it.
Remember they are JUST EMPLOYEES. and yet they get given absurd amounts of free shares and options with ZERO downside. If there is no downside, then we MUST eliminate 80% of the upside they are given by the Board of Directors.
If the companies don't do it voluntarily and IMMEDIATELY, then the government needs to step in and FORCES the issue, with maximums set for CEO and senior executive salaries, taking them back close to where they were back in 1980.
Many of these CEOs don't even knw what they are doing, and often do NOT add value.
Just look how many supposedly well educated CEOs have gone WOKE in the past few years, utterly destroying shareholder value in the BILLIONS.
How do you spell Rort?
Environmentally sound? Hardly. The latest new thing is not always the best.
This is just sheer stupidity. They don’t take it into account because it would make the cheap power much more expensive. So then the farmer and taxpayer is stuck with the bill. Yet the people who sold the power make a fortune on them. What a scam.
So a wind turbine blade is made of fiberglass and resin........The raw materials for epoxy resin production are today largely petroleum derived, Wiki
The elephant in the room for securing the Base Load is a nuclear solution.
They should pay the decomissioning fees to the bank, before any building that green garbage
Who in the right mind wants to continue to be labelled as a "taxpayer"....f__k that Im out of their system.
Someone should ask the government what the 20GW of utility storage, for 2035, is in the AEMO integrated system plan p11 graph. They haven't specified a technology, even though we will have blackouts every day without it.
Seriously?!! The concrete base cant be reused?!🤨🤔😤😡
Same with nuclear. They never factor in decommissioning costs or liability in the case of an accident. They need to be honest about the costs the taxpayers and ratepayers on are the hook for.
One wind turbine costs 7 million dollars to make
Wind turbines are made to be indestructible. Recycle or Buried choice was 20 yrs ago..
All the quantas bonus stuff is revolting!!
Close to my home in Washington state there is a wind farm that is little over 20 years old. They are Repowering the wind turbines so they can get another 20 years or what ever it gives them.
Has this happened yet? If the turbines are already 20 years old they will not be compatible with the newer technology. The latest turbines are much bigger too. It's likely that they will simply build the new turbines on the existing property. What happened to the obsolete turbines? Are they actually going to remove them? Who pays for the decommissioning and land rehabilitation? Typically the old turbines are left to rot because of the high cost of removal and disposal.
Wind turbines have a average ten year lifespan. And only survive with taxpayer money. So your taxes pay for the turbine and your monthly enrings to pay your electric bill.
Excessive decommissioning costs were used to kill off nuclear, the only sensible long term zero CO2 power generating technology which when either the eco zealots stop the use of hydrocarbons or the hydrocarbons become too expensive will be essential.
And still won't be built... Stopping us from having energy is the goal.
Chris Bowen is going to pay for dead windmills
Pray that labour and liberal change their energy policies before Australia goes completely broke.
Destroying our beautiful countryside.
The concrete bases that the wind turbines are built on resemble WW2 German bunkers.
Why would you need to decommission them? They're perfect.
I am weary of the liberal greenies.
What is our debt now Albo, oh that's right Jim Chalmers calls it investments now.
This is crazy. Please stop
That's the other problem with this from wind, solar and batteries. All well and good to make it but recycling all of that or disposal of it is a different matter. Are you going to just ship it to another country to deal with the toxic waste like ewaste.
Making it creates large amounts of toxic waste too.
China has never been known for good grade steel or glass yet we have to pay for this crap. Bring on Dutton and Nuclear. I'm 57yo and Labor has not had a good track record (or rarely) in all my years. I'm ashamed to admit that even Hanson would be a better pick than what we have now.
A coal powerstation was decommissioned in South Australia. The coal ash was just left and is still polluting the town and will be for centuries not to mention the coal mine itself a blot on the landscape forever. Who pays????
The toxic waste from wind turbines, solar panels and BESS backup will amount to far more waste than coal mines ever would. They create massive amounts of toxic waste from the mining of necessary materials to build renewables infrastructure, processing of these materials, manufacturing, installation and end-of-life disposal. You need many times more of this infrastructure to match the capacity of coal, gas or nuclear and even then, it doesn't matter how much you install it doesn't work at all if the sun isn't shining and the wind isn't blowing.
Money money money 🎶by the pound 🎶
What is it about young Australians these days, especially those in the media? They have the weirdest diction, only a faint resemblance to a traditional Aussie accent.
Bowen will tax you more to pay for decommisioning or your power prices will continue to rise 😊
Get ready for Holden 2.0
Who’s going to pay for the removal of all this Green junk.
they get gov stimlusus by replacing them due to wear or so they claim because they arent making enough money running them.
Never mind the artificial evaporation from sea's. North sea farms feed the jet stream. But i just a CT not a thinker.