Iain must be right he knows all the facts. The BBC have told him all the facts necessary to make an educated judgement. Backed up by BBC verify. What on earth could be wrong with that.😂😂😂
Seems like the UK has conveniently forgotten who illegally invaded Iraq to effect regime change on the pretext of seeking mythical weapons of mass destruction. The invasion was condemned by the UN and its Secretary General as an illegal invasion. So, what's the difference between the illegal invasion of Iraq and the illegal invasion of Ukraine? To me, the West was just more successful in its illegal invasion than Russia was, but then, the West had plenty of such practise from its colonial past! No wonder the Global South look upon the West as hypocrites and effecting double standards when it suits them. Oh, and what about the Israel invasion of Gaza?
1) We don't condone the Iraq war. The largest protest in our history was against it. 2) The Iraq war wasn't conducted by "the west", but by 4 countries; the US, Poland, Britain, and Canada. Other "the west" countries opposed it, notably Germany and France.
Iain Dale is the clown in this debate. I didn't hear any actual arguments from him. All he could do was resort to name-calling. Too indoctrinated to face reality.
@thomasstergaard4412 they are talking utter nonsense though . Putin himself destroyed the nato argument when he told the world ukraine was Russian.. clearly imperialist nationalism was the reason and if Ukrainians didn't want to be apart of putins world tough as far as the dictator was concerned 🙄
@@mikedon5205 The true imperialists are NATO, i.e., the U.S. and their sycophants. Russia won't accept NATO missiles in their backyard. And why should they? The Americans would never accept Russian missiles in Mexico or Canada. The double standards of the West makes me cringe.
@@stevewake6614 Apparently, my reply has been deleted. Probably because I pointed out the double standards of NATO and the U.S. In what way am I talking nonsense? Just like the clown Iain Dale, you resort to name-calling without arguments.
@@mikedon5205 You forget that the U.S. helped overthrow a democratically elected Ukrainian goverment in 2014. Before the neo-n@zi Zelenskij were installed as a U.S. puppet, the Ukrainians had no problems accepting a guaranteed neutrality. NATO and the U.S. are the true imperialists in this case (and many others).
"confirmed" You mean they _claimed_ it? Please explain to me, how a completely unreasonable and exclusively favorable deal to Russia, was going to be accepted by Zelensky up until Boris Johnson did.. What exactly? Stated publicly the obvious fact that Russia cannot be trusted?
@@Khalkara You are mistaken. It has been confirmed by the Israeli mediator himself. Putin and Zelinskij had reached an agreement, but the US and the UK would not allow it. Boris scuppered the deal by putting pressure on Zelinskij. An act of criminal stupidity.
😂😂😂 Modern mainstream media have suffered significant losses, particularly when they resort to personal attacks against guests they themselves invited. Such behavior reflects unprofessionalism and an inability to handle dissenting opinions gracefully
MODERATOR, i certainly wasn't thinking that at all; how dare you speak for others; the bloke was factual; 'bout time you caught up with what is happening
Ian Dale should be ashamed for his ignorance and lack of impartiality - two sides to most conflicts , he is very childish. David Kurten is right on most things
I love how the best any ukrainian supporters around the world can ever come up with is 'putin propaganda' and then wonder why everyone isnt rallying to their side 😂
Full marks for Ian giving these small parties air time. Unfortunately as moderator on this occasion he was terrible. Anyone with a non UK media - political perspective can see there is a background which is not complimentary to the USA / UK versions of events. Anyone disagreeing with the sequence of events leading up to this conflict should argue on basis of facts not simply try to wash everything away with a derogatory 'Putin Fan' dismissal.
Opinions like these is precisely why these small parties should remain small. There is nothing that justifies Russia’s invasion. Absolutely nothing. And these Putin apologists are being called exactly what they deserve; absolute disgraces.
These guys were probably all hyped about 2012 too, or maybe they could have brought some flat earth believers to the studio with them. All of them could actually agree on their conspiracies and fallacies
When is Iain going to understand that these types of views will always be attached to the right wing of politics. Of which he says he is a member of. Wake up mate.
The guests on this are all left wing. Organisation titles such as Social Democrats, Socialist Workers etc. They are just making up stuff as they go along or pull all of their so-called facts from opinions on social media.
The guests on this are all left wing. Organisation titles such as Social Coalition, Workers Party etc are a dead giveaway. It seems as though they just make up stuff as they go along or pull all their so-called facts from opinions on social media. A distinct lack of intellect is on display.. scary really.
Did you listen to a word they told you, Russia would not have invaded if it wasnt for the West interfering with Ukraine's politics and making them anti-Russian.
Maiden coup ? Yanokovich ? Attacks by ukrne neo yazi battalions since 2014? If you care for the other side of the story look up Ukraine on fire on youtube , these msm outlets really have people dumbed down , I can guess you took the jab and plan to vote labour lol. Probly a big wef fan too
Because the truth is nato was once again wrong look what happened in libya and Afghanistan today the taliban held talks with un tomorrow or near future putin will have talks with eu or usa .
Erm the USA orchestrated a regime change in 2014 and toppled the elected government. Then the new regime began slaughtering people in Eastern Ukraine because they didn't agree with it. Don't you even know that? Putin tried for 8 years to get the new regime to sign a peace agreement but they kept breaking the terms. I'm astonished that so many people are ignorant of the facts. Merkel and Zelensky even admitted publicly that they never intended to honour the peace agreement because they were just using it to buy time to rearm. Russia only invaded as a last resort.
Wel done to David Kirten for telling the truth. YES, Russia did invade Ukraine but WHY did they? And that is the question that they never ever want to ask or answer! They only show or talk about 1 side of the story! There is ALWAYS 2 sides to a story! Iain Dale was rude, arrogant and unprofessional towards his guest. Iain Dale should be ashamed of himself for being so willfully ignornant and also for his poor conduct!
They attacked Ukraine because Putin is power crazy, has no internal opponents and wanted to show off his ‘tough man’ credentials on the world stage. As a Brexit headbanger of course Kurten is bought and paid for by the Kremlin
Many people agree with David. How dare you speak to David in such a manner! Most people are sick of the alphabets and Iain doesn't even understand what is being spoken about. David represents the mass thought that you ignore in your silly little echo chamber. Reform is coming.😊
go and ask Russians how they feel about nato expansion , disregard for Minsk agreements and having hostile weapons on their border , some controlled by neo yazis . Speaking of which maybe go look into founders of nato , eu and united nations - think u might find they worked for AH
And go ask people in ukrne if they like being forced to fight and perish in a war that could have been stopped over a table - boris johnson soon saw to that - dale is a tory he is towing the line , kurten is talking sense - its possible to be neutral and see both sides perspectives - these are basics and people should know , even lbc sheeple - try the duran or redacted on yt
You have no idea what you're talking about. It's ok for him to talk about ceding territory. Yes, there are those in the Luhansk areas that like to be Russian, but many more that don't. Those that refuse to accept Russian passports face having homes seized, having bank accounts frozen.
He’s rude and talks over people that he doesn’t agree with, the propaganda in this ‘war’ is off the scale and it’s actually pathetic and cringey to listen to people who parrot the mainstream narrative
@@JohnScott-el9gm yea bare basic pre programmed brainwashed simpleton answer - watches half an hour of mainstream media and thinks they know it all - try redacted or the duran on youtube if you want actual news
A small group that Zelenskyy wanted to disband but they had been made local heroes when they held out against Russia during the invasion of Crimea. On the other hand the Russian Nazis hold 4 seats in the Kremlin. Funny how no one talks about that. When will Putin take action there?
@@mrdaveythebabyThe Americans spent 5 billion ousting an elected leader for the CIA to put in their own guy also a raging "not see." They got caught red handed and have still been meddling in Ukraine hard for over a decade. You know nothing.
Dale can't see that he's completely idiotic with the "Putin Propaganda" line, he has no ability to look at the situation with any nuance and as a person who debates for a living that's shameful from him.
Also vast majority of Ukrainians want to join the EU that's why there were protests and when the putin puppet responded with bullets and met resistance he fled because he knew the vast majority were against his stance Ukrainians will tell you this. These two are mouthing putin propaganda
Ukrainians would not be forced to resist for the amount the have by anyone including zelensky. They say they resist because simply they don't have a choice I know several Ukrainian women who have husbands at the front here who only blame putin not zelensky
Dale usually is the clown but the two ivans either side of him managed to out clown him .. putins told us ukraine is Russian so the whole nato excuse is dead putin himself killed it .
Read your comments LBC. When you say, "I'm just reflecting what every person listening to this programme is saying".......er nope, you are not. Why is the British media so utterly incorrigible and predictable? Give up, too many people are waking up to your one dimensional narrative.
Well done to David and the guy from the Worker's Party....they spoke truth. And its funny how all the messages Ian gets are against these two gentlemen, but the comments page on the LBC youTube channel support them both.
Anyone supporting Putin and his narrative should not forget that if he gets his way, the supporters here will not be rewarded and get rich. A few hundred Russian indivudals will be seated here and gain power, but none of you "early supporters" will get any power or money.
Love the title not bias at all. You can’t say anything against Ukraine without being called an apologist or a Putin, puppet. There are people in positions of power in the Uk and other countries that do not want this war to end. They will continue to pour money and Ukrainian lives at it. All the while telling us that victory is just around the corner. A lot of companies lying in their pockets with this blood money. Obviously it is a very complex situation but I’m sure if they want it they could reach deal tomorrow
Time for Ian Dale to go. Doesn't he read the comments. Doesn't he do research. When the US commentator Jimmy Dore starts to ridicule him on his show its time for LBC to show him the door.
If you don't like what someone's saying, debate it with them. They're raising valid points, Iain just doesn't want to hear/debate it. What's the point in having them on?
The Workers party guy went from talking about talking about having solidarity with eastern Europeans to saying, why should we send troops to defend other people.
Yea hopefully we get fully detached from the corrupt cabal spun up by former yazis - names like walter hallstein , adolf huseinger and kurt waldheim spring to mind . Sure the big brains that clap torys on corporate owned lbc know all about that lol
We live in a society of too many polarising views. Either Russia are 100% in the wrong or the west are 100% in the wrong. The truth, as always, is likely to be closer to the middle.
I would say that annexing someone else's territories for their human, agricultural and mineral resources is 100% wrong personallly. And I said it in an academic way. The reality is sheer horror.
Oh, it's great to read the comments section 😊. It's like we're all in the Solomon Asch conformity experiment, and we all see the truth. Hi five to you all here 🖐️. The ones on the screen are the deceivers except for David Kurton and Hoz Shaffiei. Hi five to those two as well! 🖐️🖐️
Not sure why folks are having a go at poor Iain. All he really said in effect was ‘I am an utterly brainless idiot that parrots propaganda above all else, so don’t pollute my presence with your hurty truth’.
Whats it got to do with kier starmers father ? BTW people should look up the trilateral commission - founded by bankers kier is on the members list with kissenger and JE ( yes the island man ) , not to mention people like blinken and a endless string of global elites - how very socialist , then again david lammy hangs around at bilderberg conferences so the writings on the wall , oh but david has show on my blinky box he seems nice - yea like mogg gets 30k pm on gb news too or whatever - really wish people would wake up
The Ukraine president was over thrown internally as a result of deciding against what he promised when elected high was to continue on an EU path. And when protesters were shot, the populace stood up and from those demonstrations, was deposed.
Yea, absolutely. Didn't cover himself In glory. If ever the Russians want proof of the effectiveness of their bot intelligence program, this is it though. This guy is hook, line and sinker, unfortunately
Agree; I would have asked them what their advice would have been to Neville Chamberlain at Munich, and how they regard Russia's position on LGBTQ and workers' rights (Russian workers have the lowest employment protection and face the highest income inequality in Europe, and LGTBQ people are fleeing the country btw.)
Iain must be right he knows all the facts. The BBC have told him all the facts necessary to make an educated judgement. Backed up by BBC verify. What on earth could be wrong with that.😂😂😂
Who are the advertisers paying LBC's salaries, who forbid any anti-Israel views, or any truth on America's war against Russia using Ukraine?
Completely ignorant Iain
Seems like the UK has conveniently forgotten who illegally invaded Iraq to effect regime change on the pretext of seeking mythical weapons of mass destruction. The invasion was condemned by the UN and its Secretary General as an illegal invasion. So, what's the difference between the illegal invasion of Iraq and the illegal invasion of Ukraine? To me, the West was just more successful in its illegal invasion than Russia was, but then, the West had plenty of such practise from its colonial past! No wonder the Global South look upon the West as hypocrites and effecting double standards when it suits them. Oh, and what about the Israel invasion of Gaza?
1) We don't condone the Iraq war. The largest protest in our history was against it.
2) The Iraq war wasn't conducted by "the west", but by 4 countries; the US, Poland, Britain, and Canada. Other "the west" countries opposed it, notably Germany and France.
Well , said , people have short memories
Yes west bad no argument keep going
Whataboutism 🤡
The west was not fighting an Iraq armed by 54 countries.
Commentator is a bit of a muppet to be quite frank
Dale is embarrassing and hightlights his void of wisdom when it come to anything not spoon fed and establisment propaganda. Total fool.
The presenter is terrible. Resorts to name calling because he lacks an understanding of reality.
I don’t know who this ian dale is but the guy is a 🤡
Moderator is disgusting rude
Oh you can't go against the narrative. How dare he!!
Who is Iain Dale to be the arbiter of truth?
The moderator is appalling!
Ian Dale should listen and learn the fact. Give the Ukrainians peace.
So embarrassing these fools.
People can't handle the truth.
What is this truth you are referring to?
Facts
Iain Dale is the clown in this debate. I didn't hear any actual arguments from him. All he could do was resort to name-calling. Too indoctrinated to face reality.
@thomasstergaard4412 they are talking utter nonsense though .
Putin himself destroyed the nato argument when he told the world ukraine was Russian.. clearly imperialist nationalism was the reason and if Ukrainians didn't want to be apart of putins world tough as far as the dictator was concerned 🙄
@@mikedon5205 The true imperialists are NATO, i.e., the U.S. and their sycophants. Russia won't accept NATO missiles in their backyard. And why should they? The Americans would never accept Russian missiles in Mexico or Canada. The double standards of the West makes me cringe.
They would argue you're talking nonsense. Which you are.
@@stevewake6614 Apparently, my reply has been deleted. Probably because I pointed out the double standards of NATO and the U.S. In what way am I talking nonsense? Just like the clown Iain Dale, you resort to name-calling without arguments.
@@mikedon5205 You forget that the U.S. helped overthrow a democratically elected Ukrainian goverment in 2014. Before the neo-n@zi Zelenskij were installed as a U.S. puppet, the Ukrainians had no problems accepting a guaranteed neutrality. NATO and the U.S. are the true imperialists in this case (and many others).
Thank you David you are Right
what a chump dale is
Come on Iain. We have to listen to your unthinking defence of Israel on a continuous loop. Give the guy a break!
Lan dale shame on you you are clueless
Dale had no response to the guests points, just faux outrage 'OMG R U PUTIN?!' so childish 🤣
While true, it isn't even really worth dignifying blatant Putin propaganda with a response.
The former Israeli PM confirmed that Boris destroyed the agreement.
Very true, but the mainstream media won't admit it. It messes up their 'the West = heroes; the rest = villains' world view. Pure Disney World.
"confirmed"
You mean they _claimed_ it?
Please explain to me, how a completely unreasonable and exclusively favorable deal to Russia, was going to be accepted by Zelensky up until Boris Johnson did.. What exactly? Stated publicly the obvious fact that Russia cannot be trusted?
It's disgusting. Boris got the nudge to keep the meat grinder going and fed with Ukraine souls.
They _claimed_ it not _confirmed_ it. Its a blatant lie.
@@Khalkara You are mistaken. It has been confirmed by the Israeli mediator himself. Putin and Zelinskij had reached an agreement, but the US and the UK would not allow it. Boris scuppered the deal by putting pressure on Zelinskij. An act of criminal stupidity.
Ian dale is a total embarrassment
😂😂😂 Modern mainstream media have suffered significant losses, particularly when they resort to personal attacks against guests they themselves invited. Such behavior reflects unprofessionalism and an inability to handle dissenting opinions gracefully
He is cringey and annoying
Hes a globalist
And WEF puppet
Ian Dale really hasn't a clue what's really going on.
Totally biased moderator. Rudely interrupted and talked over guests whose view clashed with his. Unproffesional.
It's more that their views clashed with objective reality, but you do you, Princess 😘
MODERATOR, i certainly wasn't thinking that at all; how dare you speak for others; the bloke was factual; 'bout time you caught up with what is happening
In absence of an actual argument just call your opponent names
Ian Dale should be ashamed for his ignorance and lack of impartiality - two sides to most conflicts , he is very childish. David Kurten is right on most things
he is employed as a cut out
Kurten is completely brainwashed.
He knows the truth but isn't allowed to let it be told out loud
I love how the best any ukrainian supporters around the world can ever come up with is 'putin propaganda' and then wonder why everyone isnt rallying to their side 😂
Ian Dale has clearly not watched Oliver Stone documentary
ians the type to pretend gaza started on oct the 7th.
On Putin's birthday in fact.
@@stephenhill545 your point?
I’m no Putin lover, but everything David Curtian said was factually true and easily verifiable. Can’t believe how bad this host was here
Iain dale is establishment man..
Yea corporate mouthpiece and people lap it up
But a really, really, really bad Tory candidate.
He's not wrong here
Yep - but he can't see that. He was a big fan of Cameron, and that says all that is needed to be said of him.
Full marks for Ian giving these small parties air time. Unfortunately as moderator on this occasion he was terrible. Anyone with a non UK media - political perspective can see there is a background which is not complimentary to the USA / UK versions of events. Anyone disagreeing with the sequence of events leading up to this conflict should argue on basis of facts not simply try to wash everything away with a derogatory 'Putin Fan' dismissal.
Opinions like these is precisely why these small parties should remain small. There is nothing that justifies Russia’s invasion. Absolutely nothing. And these Putin apologists are being called exactly what they deserve; absolute disgraces.
And this is why they are small parties. Full of clueless muppets.
These guys were probably all hyped about 2012 too, or maybe they could have brought some flat earth believers to the studio with them. All of them could actually agree on their conspiracies and fallacies
@@casimirkylian3703 These are all facts, not his fault you've fallen for media propaganda and cant handle the truth, like Dale.
@@sonofsomerset1695 You need to get help
No he is right , if you think lbc is news it really isn't. Try The Duran or redacted if you want the other side of the story
Absolutely perfect statement
When is Iain going to understand that these types of views will always be attached to the right wing of politics. Of which he says he is a member of. Wake up mate.
You mean pointing out the proven facts, so you're saying the right wing is the only side that dares to tell the truth.
Far right and far left. Heritage guy on the right, guy from Galloway's mob on the left. They're as bad as each other
Hoz is the workers party , yea defo right wing 😂😂😂😂
The guests on this are all left wing. Organisation titles such as Social Democrats, Socialist Workers etc. They are just making up stuff as they go along or pull all of their so-called facts from opinions on social media.
The guests on this are all left wing. Organisation titles such as Social Coalition, Workers Party etc are a dead giveaway. It seems as though they just make up stuff as they go along or pull all their so-called facts from opinions on social media. A distinct lack of intellect is on display.. scary really.
Why do you allow these people on LBC. Who invaded who?
Did you listen to a word they told you, Russia would not have invaded if it wasnt for the West interfering with Ukraine's politics and making them anti-Russian.
The United Federation of Fascists invaded Ukraine... Full Stop....
Maiden coup ? Yanokovich ? Attacks by ukrne neo yazi battalions since 2014?
If you care for the other side of the story look up Ukraine on fire on youtube , these msm outlets really have people dumbed down , I can guess you took the jab and plan to vote labour lol. Probly a big wef fan too
Because the truth is nato was once again wrong look what happened in libya and Afghanistan today the taliban held talks with un tomorrow or near future putin will have talks with eu or usa .
Erm the USA orchestrated a regime change in 2014 and toppled the elected government. Then the new regime began slaughtering people in Eastern Ukraine because they didn't agree with it. Don't you even know that? Putin tried for 8 years to get the new regime to sign a peace agreement but they kept breaking the terms. I'm astonished that so many people are ignorant of the facts. Merkel and Zelensky even admitted publicly that they never intended to honour the peace agreement because they were just using it to buy time to rearm. Russia only invaded as a last resort.
Wel done to David Kirten for telling the truth. YES, Russia did invade Ukraine but WHY did they? And that is the question that they never ever want to ask or answer! They only show or talk about 1 side of the story! There is ALWAYS 2 sides to a story! Iain Dale was rude, arrogant and unprofessional towards his guest. Iain Dale should be ashamed of himself for being so willfully ignornant and also for his poor conduct!
They attacked Ukraine because Putin is power crazy, has no internal opponents and wanted to show off his ‘tough man’ credentials on the world stage. As a Brexit headbanger of course Kurten is bought and paid for by the Kremlin
If you have different opinions you are 🇷🇺 propaganda. You have at understand the whole context
Many people agree with David. How dare you speak to David in such a manner! Most people are sick of the alphabets and Iain doesn't even understand what is being spoken about. David represents the mass thought that you ignore in your silly little echo chamber.
Reform is coming.😊
Go and ask the population of Lithuania and other comparable countries near Russia what they think about these warped opinions.
go and ask Russians how they feel about nato expansion , disregard for Minsk agreements and having hostile weapons on their border , some controlled by neo yazis . Speaking of which maybe go look into founders of nato , eu and united nations - think u might find they worked for AH
And go ask people in ukrne if they like being forced to fight and perish in a war that could have been stopped over a table - boris johnson soon saw to that - dale is a tory he is towing the line , kurten is talking sense - its possible to be neutral and see both sides perspectives - these are basics and people should know , even lbc sheeple - try the duran or redacted on yt
@@martinus4873 🤣🤣🤣
You are deluded , bet you reported your neighbour , during covid
@@martinus4873 which NATO expansion? you apply, do not get coerced.
playing your game, ask Georgian what they want
Nice try Iain... Well said David & Hoz
Iain Dale is clueless on so many subjects except those that are unlikely to be featured on a mainstream radio station.
Well done David for speaking truth. 🙏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🔥💯
And the other man who was bullied by the presenter
You have no idea what you're talking about. It's ok for him to talk about ceding territory. Yes, there are those in the Luhansk areas that like to be Russian, but many more that don't. Those that refuse to accept Russian passports face having homes seized, having bank accounts frozen.
Well done for repeating Russian propaganda
@@tomhicks1009 did you speak up when the US invaded Iraq ?
@@tomhicks1009well done for repeating Western propergander
The game is up, Ian. People arent buying the media bs anymore 💡
Put the foil hat away. You are just another Putin apologist.
Clearly the truth hurts some people.
Especially if you salary depends on selling lies
Dale is evil.
Talking about someone even more evil!
Yes, but he is very generous to these clowns.
Establishment stooge😂
He’s rude and talks over people that he doesn’t agree with, the propaganda in this ‘war’ is off the scale and it’s actually pathetic and cringey to listen to people who parrot the mainstream narrative
If the west wants peice why did it not let russia join nato? Clinton said yes to putin then others said no including the uk
Because this war was already planned look up Albert Pike
Dale out of his depth and repeating cliches
Uk stands with ukraine 💙 💛
You don’t speak for the uk
@@petelawless811 you helping putin shameful I pity you 😕
@@JohnScott-el9gm I pity you for supporting neo nazis
I don't stand with yazi dictatorships you dont speak for me
@@JohnScott-el9gm yea bare basic pre programmed brainwashed simpleton answer - watches half an hour of mainstream media and thinks they know it all - try redacted or the duran on youtube if you want actual news
It's actually true about the neo nazis of ukraine
A small group that Zelenskyy wanted to disband but they had been made local heroes when they held out against Russia during the invasion of Crimea. On the other hand the Russian Nazis hold 4 seats in the Kremlin. Funny how no one talks about that. When will Putin take action there?
No its not, there only nei nzi in russia putin even takes picure with them look wagbar founder utkin
@@DanyYnady Grow up
This lie stays up and my reply gets deleted? C'mon RUclips step it up
Most of the world doesn't support the British view on the war the USA started in 2014.
When Russia invaded Ukraine ?
Except it didn't, but whatever frees you from your guilt I guess.
@@stephenhill545 clearly a Putin / Reform bot...
@@mrdaveythebabyThe Americans spent 5 billion ousting an elected leader for the CIA to put in their own guy also a raging "not see." They got caught red handed and have still been meddling in Ukraine hard for over a decade. You know nothing.
@@stephenhill545 Have you heard of Igor Girkin?
What was he up to in 2014?
David is right
Who put son of a KGB agent in the House of Lords. Answer in a secret dossier lol
Bozo Johnson was celebrating Azov Neo Nazis as HEROES in Paliament a few weeks ago....
Ian Dale is like how dare you tell the truth 😂
Dale can't see that he's completely idiotic with the "Putin Propaganda" line, he has no ability to look at the situation with any nuance and as a person who debates for a living that's shameful from him.
Also vast majority of Ukrainians want to join the EU that's why there were protests and when the putin puppet responded with bullets and met resistance he fled because he knew the vast majority were against his stance Ukrainians will tell you this. These two are mouthing putin propaganda
Ukrainians would not be forced to resist for the amount the have by anyone including zelensky.
They say they resist because simply they don't have a choice I know several Ukrainian women who have husbands at the front here who only blame putin not zelensky
Would anything else have been a better reply? It's pretty obvious they're getting their Kool-Aid intravenously on that panel.
The arrogance and ignorance of the presenter is mind boggling. What a clown he is.
Dale usually is the clown but the two ivans either side of him managed to out clown him .. putins told us ukraine is Russian so the whole nato excuse is dead putin himself killed it .
The 2 ivans were also clowns though
great to hear push back against nato and the us
Iain Dale, what a prat
Read your comments LBC. When you say, "I'm just reflecting what every person listening to this programme is saying".......er nope, you are not. Why is the British media so utterly incorrigible and predictable? Give up, too many people are waking up to your one dimensional narrative.
Which is worse existing under Putin's rule or nuclear war!
Well done to David and the guy from the Worker's Party....they spoke truth. And its funny how all the messages Ian gets are against these two gentlemen, but the comments page on the LBC youTube channel support them both.
Vile dale your lies and misinformation of old and gullible
establishment , strumpet , he is detestable , beat up an old bloke on the seaside
Ian Dale, the Western apologist.
The Workers Party of Britain might be interested to know that trade unions are effectively banned in Russia.
and voting and faith is in ukraine your point is?
@@RottenPolitics Ukraine's laws guarantee the right of religious freedom.
so what ?
They aren’t that functional here
Anyone supporting Putin and his narrative should not forget that if he gets his way, the supporters here will not be rewarded and get rich. A few hundred Russian indivudals will be seated here and gain power, but none of you "early supporters" will get any power or money.
who composed the title; try to be independent ffs; there's NO russian apologist
Love the title not bias at all. You can’t say anything against Ukraine without being called an apologist or a Putin, puppet. There are people in positions of power in the Uk and other countries that do not want this war to end. They will continue to pour money and Ukrainian lives at it. All the while telling us that victory is just around the corner. A lot of companies lying in their pockets with this blood money. Obviously it is a very complex situation but I’m sure if they want it they could reach deal tomorrow
Well said, Hoz Shafiei and David Kurten! Let's hear the truth at last. Disgraceful moderating by Iain Dale. What's got into these people?
Dale and his polished dome, the pompous 🌵!!!
Time for Ian Dale to go. Doesn't he read the comments. Doesn't he do research. When the US commentator Jimmy Dore starts to ridicule him on his show its time for LBC to show him the door.
Host exposed‼️👀🇬🇧
Iain Dale is an absolute disgrace of a moderator. I hope you paid him for his time with change from between the sofa cushions.
If you don't like what someone's saying, debate it with them. They're raising valid points, Iain just doesn't want to hear/debate it. What's the point in having them on?
British armed forces 70000 russia 1.2 million ukrain loses in 2 months 70000. Do the math
Dale is the one who should be ashamed. Pure propaganda from him. What a disgrace of a moderator.
Russian followers blaming the victim.
neo nazis dishing out propganda
No, blaming the corrupt West, not Ukraine, Ukraine was manipulated by America after they staged a coup in 2014.
2014 , maiden , Azov yazis? - we know there is more too it and brainwashing dale is pants at his job gaslighting sheeple
You are right.. a real shame..!!
Its possible to be neutral and see both sides - seems lost on so many
Iain Dale is obtuse. Learn a lot more deprogrammed and listening.
Iain Dale can keep his head in the inner London media bubble. He is a clown.
Hoz nailed it. Really decent bloke as well as it happens
Of course... tankies and the _actual_ far right in cahoots . Just another Monday evening looking at the horseshoe.
Bingo! What it is about Russia they love so much?
The far right like an empire building strongman, the far left support opposition to western power and have nostalgia for the USSR.
Shame on you Iain. What a utter embarrassment.
Dale is such a state propagandist
Wow David is so far gone it’s shocking how little he actually knows. Needs to stay off Russia Today
Give us some of your propaganda then since you live in a country thats so innocent
Just because he's not brainwashed like you are doesnt mean he's wrong, he's talking about proven facts and you're brainwashing cant handle the truth.
No David is right , might be the corporate establish media thats telling you fibs
@@Maliko919maybe you shouldn't deflect?
Great argument lol
David has it spot on
Wow a fair platforming of alternative views for once.
The Workers party guy went from talking about talking about having solidarity with eastern Europeans to saying, why should we send troops to defend other people.
Brexit britain 😂😂😂
They truly are the worst of us.
EU is a cartel but that is OK
Yea hopefully we get fully detached from the corrupt cabal spun up by former yazis - names like walter hallstein , adolf huseinger and kurt waldheim spring to mind . Sure the big brains that clap torys on corporate owned lbc know all about that lol
Scary people. They SHOULD be ashamed of themselves.
Putin-fanboys galore...What is going on with LBC???
Wow truths from David here causing lbc presenter a meltdown
READ IT AND WEEP.
Russian KIA. 539,000
Ukrainian KIA 76,000
NATO KIA. 0
ian dale is a nafo fella in real life, he just repeated the nafo darvo tactics for the world to see. amaziung
@@shaun1463
You struggle with English….
@@truthplease4868 had to bait a response somehow.
We live in a society of too many polarising views. Either Russia are 100% in the wrong or the west are 100% in the wrong.
The truth, as always, is likely to be closer to the middle.
Yep, right in the middle where russia had no right to invade another country. Again.
@@thedeadmoneyallstarshow many countries did nato and west invaded?
@@user-ji3jy5wg4v whataboutism. ‘The west did blah blah blah, so now we have the right to invade Ukraine’. Nope. Not how it works.
I would say that annexing someone else's territories for their human, agricultural and mineral resources is 100% wrong personallly. And I said it in an academic way. The reality is sheer horror.
@@user-ji3jy5wg4vHow many countries has NATO annexed?
Oh, it's great to read the comments section 😊. It's like we're all in the Solomon Asch conformity experiment, and we all see the truth. Hi five to you all here 🖐️. The ones on the screen are the deceivers except for David Kurton and Hoz Shaffiei. Hi five to those two as well! 🖐️🖐️
Not sure why folks are having a go at poor Iain. All he really said in effect was ‘I am an utterly brainless idiot that parrots propaganda above all else, so don’t pollute my presence with your hurty truth’.
What a toolmaker
starmers father is the only toolmaker i know.
Whats it got to do with kier starmers father ? BTW people should look up the trilateral commission - founded by bankers kier is on the members list with kissenger and JE ( yes the island man ) , not to mention people like blinken and a endless string of global elites - how very socialist , then again david lammy hangs around at bilderberg conferences so the writings on the wall , oh but david has show on my blinky box he seems nice - yea like mogg gets 30k pm on gb news too or whatever - really wish people would wake up
The Ukraine president was over thrown internally as a result of deciding against what he promised when elected high was to continue on an EU path. And when protesters were shot, the populace stood up and from those demonstrations, was deposed.
Dale blinded by his own cognitive dissonance
Just to add, UK defence budget is around 50 billion per annum. How much has been spent on the Ukraine conflict so far?
44 seconds in, and I'm already asking why is this garbage on LBC.. What is the target audience here?
I don't agree at all with what the fellow said, but Dale dealt with that appallingly.
Yea, absolutely. Didn't cover himself In glory. If ever the Russians want proof of the effectiveness of their bot intelligence program, this is it though. This guy is hook, line and sinker, unfortunately
The establishment has to feign outrage because they know they cant argue with the evidence.
Agree; I would have asked them what their advice would have been to Neville Chamberlain at Munich, and how they regard Russia's position on LGBTQ and workers' rights (Russian workers have the lowest employment protection and face the highest income inequality in Europe, and LGTBQ people are fleeing the country btw.)