I have an idea for fixing Rhys' character going forward. Let's just say that the surgeon who changed his voice accidentally messed up Rhys' brain a bit during the operation. Then after a couple of years, his brain swelling finally goes down and he gets better by the time of Borderlands 4.
Everyone already understands that B3 was a horrible story but I don't hear many people discussing how bad of a letdown it was after the cliffhanger at the end of the pre sequel, I think we were all expecting some final instalment type material, some "return of the king" vibes. Then they gave us Ava "Figure it out gearbox!"
So you’re telling me Fiona got a bobble head worth billions of dollars and I’m expected to believe she is able to sell it to a nice honest person on Pandora?!?
NGL I feel like the Atlas SMG that Sasha has would be worth as much or close enough since all old Atlas guns were useless due to Brickware program but her gun. A still usable vintage Atlas weapon like that would be worth a ton I assume. On top of whatever loot they were able to pick up and split from The Travelers destroyed remains.
I don't see why they found it hard to justify Gaige being the wedding planner. Pretty sure Gaige and Hammerlock are friends, he could have told her before proposing and she got overly excited and started planning it, with Hammerlock enjoying her ideas.
For real. Glad I played tales before BL3. Vaughn was funny in 3 but they cut out a lot of his characterization. But I do like the story line of weird nerd that turns to feral bandit. Then it's a shame with Rhys all around.
Honestly, I feel they should've had a book set after New Tales explaining where Sasha went, why she prevented anyone from following her trail. I feel setting this book just after the first Tales, but before Borderlands 3 wasn't the right move. It would've been better to actually focus on the original Tales gang coming back together, to find where Sasha went. Maybe even Fiona lost track of where Sasha went when they both became full on Vault Hunters and she and Rhys team up once more to find clues to her whereabouts. Really hope they give that plot point some sort of continuation one day.
he is also responsible for the movie being so abysmal…honestly the dude needs fired hell throw me in the wringer i can clean up the franchise in one game and two DLC tops
The first Tales was themed around how abusive corporations are and how escaping it at all costs is worth it but Gearbox, who is unsurprisingly run by a highly toxic person, has gone out of their way to punish the Tales crew for daring to do so
I think one thing to note is that Rhys and Fiona from start to finish of Tales had a very clear goal: power and money. It’s nice to think that the events of Tales would “change” them fundamentally, but that’s not really how it works in real life. Sure some people grow and change. But most people are who they are. I see Rhys as being the natural progression of himself from Tales. Also Holo-Jack probably broke his brain a bit.
Watch Eruptions videos again, specially the one about new tales, he shows PROOF of Rhys` change, so no its not the natural progression AT ALL Edit - He literally showed the scene here so how are you still getting it wrong
New Tales from the Borderlands was such a stupid idea. While yes, they made a horrible decision to kill off Maya in such a disrespectful manner and just completely dismissed her afterwards but, NTftB is still an atrociously stupid and unoriginal idea. It literally makes everyone's deaths meaningless
The Borderlands story is a mess right now. How can they introduce the Crystal Cosmic God that is stronger than the Destroyer and not have Tyreen go after it. She was hunting down vaults to absorb monsters and I doubt that no information was available about the Devourer's vault during the time she was active. The gameplay is good but the story is slowly becoming comic book levels of convoluted.
Pretty sure they were just experimenting with that game . what they could or not gateway with without making a full borderlands sequel . turns out nothing ! I do want this game to to be retconned . so none of the outrageously stupid ideas out man
@@adhumbla1153 Knowing Randy Bitchford and how petty he can be, especially with how awful he treated the borderlands community after the release of the horrible movie, I highly doubt he’s gonna make the franchise better tbh. That dudes completely going down the deep end while completely off his rocker.
@@harrylarry6324 long as the gameplay is great + NO mircotransactions !... I don't give a damn who is steering the ship . they could have made Bl3 with mircrotrashsactions added in but they didn't
Wait but didn’t Rhys already have the rights to Atlas from Jacks office? Did they know what was in their own stories? Honestly would’ve rather they kept what was in vault completely ambiguous
Sadly that book solidifies New Tales and its dumb green crystal, Gearbox just wants their cake and eat it too. They clearly want Jack back and even planned to do so in BL3 and want cheap and easy good will from the fans IE reviving Maya as that really was so bad that plot point alone was a huge negative for word of mouth on the game. Everything else is just icing on the cake for this supposed war plot, to them they probably truly believe this green crystal is not only necessary but completely justified for it without admitting they made mistakes, and the fans were right.
this would actually made her very weak and not a proper vault hunter. If all her future achievements would be based on magical wish powers, whats the point than. Its like those losers who do AI commissions, whats the point if art wasnt made through will, dedication, intelligence and strength? Cheaters arent worth to tell storys about.
@@bellonasservant4496 i was thinking more like she obtains siren powers from the wish either adding to the number of sirens or killing/stealing the powers of another
@@thebeyblader217 Still cheating, she doesnt need superpowers, thats the whole theme to the Tales story and characters. They arent superpowered heroes, they have to talk themselves out of dangerous situations and combat is only the last resort. Its so much more satisfying and entertaining when she is winning because of her ingenuity and intelligence and not because she is an overpowered magical mary sue.
Wait didn’t Rhys already own the rights to Atlas by the end of the game? Doesn’t that make the wish completely redundant or am I not remembering right. Also trying to explain the voice actor change is so confusing, I’m not necessarily happy with the change of VA but the new one sounds almost one to one
@@adhumbla1153 I’m sure there’s an official or at least more knowledgeable answer about why they changed him that I just don’t know about, but yes he was originally Troy Baker. I just find it odd since the person they got now (Ray Chase) sounds almost exactly like him to the point where I think if you didn’t know it was a different guy you wouldn’t notice at first
@@adhumbla1153 I don't have the source for this so I could be misremembering, but iirc Troy said that Gearbox hadn't even contacted him to see if he wanted to reprise his role for BL3. So it's no surprise he wasn't in New Tales either.
Bruh, I saw Gaige on the book I was like finally some new lore stuff for Gaige. But after watching this video, now I wish they didn't include Gaige in the book.
When i heard the whole thing about the billionaires dog pilling the person who killed one of them i thought it would lead to gaige just killing all the billionaires at once in a scene akin to the opening of punisher warzone
It feels like the author wrote the book without going over the tails game and makes ot feel like they went backwards in their growth instead of improving themselves and almost feels redconed in a way
'Not as powerful'? Dude even without Deathtrap it's really easy to spec her into anarchy nightmare war machine, I don't know how she scales in-lore but it feels like alot of disservice us done to her personal capabilities, she's got a cybernetic arm that can crush concrete remember? She could probably pry open Helios with enough time
Bruh, at this point I have 0 faith in bordelrands 4 story. BL3 story was bad, new tales was dogshit and now this book has so many things which dont make sense. It would be a miracle if the story is at least mediocre
This. There hasn't been a single enjoyable game since Tales from the Borderlands 10 years ago. TPS was barely a Borderlands games, and BL2 VR was barely a game. We need a W or BL2 will be the last good Borderlands game and the only real Borderlands game to play, which came out 12 whole ass years ago.
I BOUGHT THE BOOK! It was alright! Anthony Burch was clearly limited in what he could write due to the state of the series at this point of time, but it gives lots of answers!!!
I read the book completely different. Fiona's entire purpose wasnt about money in this book, it was about protecting Sasha. The money would allow them to live the stable life they so desired. She never wanted to be a vault hunter, she never wanted to be rich, she just wanted to be normal. Fiona frequently criticises Sasha for her money spending problems throughout the book. Its Sasha whos obsessed, if anything. She's the one who bought the mansion, she's the one who conjured the idea of selling the Vault Lander figure. Fiona is trying to move on with her life, while Sasha slowly starts to miss the chaos and begins to seek it out, which is why i think they added Gaige to be a sort of lesson for Sasha, to not take everything for granted. The book was good, IMO. I think its easy to criticize Borderlands because of it's reputation, but i also think we should try finding the good where we can. I recommend reading it, its fun, and answers lots of questions.
It goes against almost everything they did in Tales from the Borderlands. You are trying to find the good in it which is fine, but If you have to overlook all the bad Things and retcons to enjoy a Borderlands Story then I dont know what to tell you
@@FloundFahrdienst I also think Anthony Burch was quite limited in what he had to write, so despite the limitations I still think it was good for what it was. It was very millennial humour imo, but humour is subjective so I wouldn't really say that's a flaw, just a personal gripe I have. The whole vaultlanders thing feels so painfully forced into the series, and it could've definitely gone without the Vaultlanders storyline. I also feel like Borderlands has lost the plot, completely forgetting what it was about--- the Vaults. So far, everything we have seen about the Vaults have been underwhelming, and this book was 100% guilty of this, and it definitely feels like a punch in the face for fans who have been waiting so long to find out what happened to their favourite characters. So that's the criticism I have. But the general flow of the story was nice. I think my main issue with his "review" was that it seemed to overlook a lot of the key points, and didn't really care to look deeper into what was happening. It seems like he went into this book expecting to hate it. I was just trying to balance out this video by adding my personal opinion, to let people know it wasn't all that bad.
I found this video after seeing the Borderlands 4 teaser earlier today and wanted to refresh myself on the lore of Borderlands. I was NOT expecting to see new (VERY new at that) lore written by the Writer of Borderlands 2 and Tales and that makes me very excited for the future of the franchise. I really hope they locked in for this one.
If BL4 has fiona and sasha as vault-hunters, I wouldnt be opposed. I think their action skill could be cooperative, allowing the player to be able to switch back and forth between the two having stacked inventory space for both. Idk, just a thought.
I know Rhys gets a lot of flak for his portrayal in BL3, its not as nuanced as his original debut, but I still seriously love him as a character and his entire plot line in BL3.
Personally I think Sasha is either dead or very badly injured instead of being missing. When Rhys talks about if he's ever been in love in Borderlands 3 he just responds with "I'm kinda sad now". I don't believe there's ever actually a name mentioned during the echo log where he's looking for someone and during New Tales he specifically mentions that he could ask Fiona for a new picture of Sasha, *if he can find Fiona*. Aside from this, Rhys not only mentions that he knows what the anahadium shard is, but that he also had a very big personal investment in finding it. And Fiona is seen alone at the end of new tales talking to Markus and actively looking for the shard that can bring people back to life. Again I could be, and probably am, very wrong and theres probably something i missed that disproves it but that's just my theory based on what I've seen in the games.
I dont think she's dead, and that's why Rhys feels sad about being in love, i think it's supposed to be him, maybe feeling like his relationship with Sasha is one of unrequited love. At the end of the new book, weirdly enough, it's Fiona who tells Rhys that Sasha is in love with him-- which is very weird. Earlier in the book, Sasha does talk to him about their relationship, but she tells him she's not ready or something like that. Rhys is absolutely in love with her but she is just missing, out there doing her thing, and that's why he's sad. It's awful that Zer0 tells him that's there's no way to find someone who doesn't wants to be found. In other words he probably feels like he got ghosted at an interplanetary level.
You know what would be absolutely nutty? If Rhys, Vaughn, Fiona and Sasha WERE ALL the four playable characters in borderlands 4. It's total fanfiction but think about it.... Rhys with advanced technology, Fiona with cunning and athletics, Vaughn could bulk up to be a fearless Tank and Sasha who has been touch by the shard MIGHT make her a possible siren candidate. I think it's warrants a "what if" scenario at least. Id pay to see fan art / concept art of this.
Gaige, in her BL3 DLC, jokes she's busy "disappointing her parents", when she shows up at her crash site. I thought that meant her dad was still alive.
Wasn't Gaige's bounty set by Hyperion and Jack though? I believe they were so high because Jack became a multi trillionaire after creating e-tech weaponry
I remember you saying torgue or however you spell his name wasn’t in charge of torgue anymore but it’s him sending you the mail in bl3 which is in direct connection to the company. If he wasn’t apart of the company why would he be sending mail to the vh
Headcanon..after the thanksgiving DLC in BL2 he blew up the entire board of directors with a HUGE F##KING EXPLOSION and took back his company in the MOST BADASS way possible!!!
its because they wanted a full female lead on every front of borderlands which is why almost everything suddenly turn female cernriuc excluding gaiges dad and the senor of the hollow family.
When you know the executive behind the publisher. It makes perfect sense on why these characters got assassinated with shitty writing. Big boss has "big ideas" and think he can write a really good "borderlands game" and... you see echoes of his psychotic ideology splattered across the theming. When before... it was literally the main antagonist of every game.
I wanna know how they got to drop no gauge and how do you destroy death trap? That’s crazy and I can’t be the only person to notice that Reeses new voice sounds like the one brand in a jar from the old world blues, DLC in fallout new Vegas
Honestly my faith on the Gearbox writing team faltered after BL3, especially when the DLCs had such better stories. But after what they did to Rhys & the plot in New Tales? That faith died. Now the movie is coming out & that looks like it was cobbled together by people who barley have an idea what the franchise is. This book is just another disappointment.
Few things depress me More than how dirty characters are done in this series.Also ur goddamn right Vault Hunting should be more lucrative. From dead guy loot and selling gear to literal vending machines that can pop up in places where humans haven't stepped in centuries about 3 days work would set anyone up for life
In my opinion on Reese's wish I think he was wishing for more absolute confrontations yes he had the deed he was still technically a nobody a lot of other companies could have just constantly absorbed him without them even trying I think what he wished for when you wish for Atlas was more so to make sure to get a bit of a buffer so you can have enough time to actually get on his feet I have a proper stand when it was time to deal with those bottles not straight up wish for I want Atlas since he's still technically owned Atlas with the deed
Fiona tried to pay everyone's debt. Can't be that greedy. Times change sometimes money is needed. It isn't everything is the message that they still live.
It’s better to just leave tales’ story right where it ended, it’s better to have the idea that we would never know what happened to Rhys, Fiona or the rest of the cast, because if this is the story that continues it, than I don’t want it.
I refuse to believe New Tales of the Borderlands is canon. It massacred several characters and got everything else so horribly wrong that it looks like people who hated and/or never played Borderlands were given the reins and funding to make a major Borderlands game.
With the massive decline in the quality of the stories lately, I'm not sure I even want anything else from the Borderlands franchise at this point. If all they're gonna give us is this crap, just stop making stuff. I'd rather see it end than continue to be a shell of its former self.
Nooo, I wish this book didn't exist now. I wanted Fiona's story to be more than that, but poop... I wished none of these Tales from the Borderlands were touched. Oh well, at least Loaderbot and Gortys are safe from more writing?
All of their appearances in following games were actually all robotic clones and the originals are actually off on adventures and that is NOT how Rhys ended up👍🙂🥲
Rhys is my favourite from the first Tales game!
...Oh how they massacred my boy in the second game.
Yeah like his goal was from wanting to be handsome Jack and then growing to not be him, and wanting to be a good guy
Same and I really disliked how they didn’t even ask his original VA to come back.
@@i_crave_death4660probably didn’t want to spend money on hiring Troy
I have an idea for fixing Rhys' character going forward.
Let's just say that the surgeon who changed his voice accidentally messed up Rhys' brain a bit during the operation. Then after a couple of years, his brain swelling finally goes down and he gets better by the time of Borderlands 4.
@Hounlaiga Sure. Honestly I would all for that if they competently wrote Rhys afterwards.
We're agreeing that the "new tales of the borderlands" isn't canon right?
There was a continuation after Tales From the Borderlands?
@@mistermann4163came out a while ago
@@eraser2592 he was being sarcastic like purposely ignoring it
Unfortunately new tales is canon
Yes no question
My head Canon is that they all met up avengers style to fight the true vault war across the galaxy. Who’s Ava?
A brat
Annoying kid
Commander throw it out the airlock.
Crazy how them cutting out one scene with Ava ! Fucked up that character ! That one scene could have improved it. Her a little bit
Everyone already understands that B3 was a horrible story but I don't hear many people discussing how bad of a letdown it was after the cliffhanger at the end of the pre sequel, I think we were all expecting some final instalment type material, some "return of the king" vibes. Then they gave us Ava
"Figure it out gearbox!"
I was excited.
New Tales was mentioned.
My excitement faded.
New tales is an example of how not to do a sequel
the game is absolute dogshit until the midpoint, then it gets rly good ha
The monkey's paw curls
Same writer as BL2
@@vectoralphaSec
Literal definition of falling from glory lmao. Borderlands 2 was so damn good yet he messed up badly on newer things.
So you’re telling me Fiona got a bobble head worth billions of dollars and I’m expected to believe she is able to sell it to a nice honest person on Pandora?!?
NGL I feel like the Atlas SMG that Sasha has would be worth as much or close enough since all old Atlas guns were useless due to Brickware program but her gun. A still usable vintage Atlas weapon like that would be worth a ton I assume. On top of whatever loot they were able to pick up and split from The Travelers destroyed remains.
i mean, Fiona is a vault hunter now. so who knows
Ikr did she not learn her lesson after the “vault key” incident?
Way I figure it, that was part of the wish: a path to actually turn that trinket into cash, safely.
No, Rhys found the rights to Atlas in Jack's office. It's just laying there for him to take it at any time
He found the rights in jack’s office but he fully made it official in his wish.
I don't see why they found it hard to justify Gaige being the wedding planner. Pretty sure Gaige and Hammerlock are friends, he could have told her before proposing and she got overly excited and started planning it, with Hammerlock enjoying her ideas.
the easiest and least shit way to deal with a character is sadly the hardest one for borderlands writers to actually write it
Planning ONE wedding doesn't make someone a career wedding planner (like the story treats her as)
It’s truly a shame how BL3 did rhys and vaughn so dirty..
For real. Glad I played tales before BL3. Vaughn was funny in 3 but they cut out a lot of his characterization. But I do like the story line of weird nerd that turns to feral bandit. Then it's a shame with Rhys all around.
@@cortos_9733he was more of a cornball from what he was in tales
He wasn't funny at all imo, I think I blew air out of my nose 3 times the whole game
BL3 didn’t do Rhys overly dirty, New Tales did
Honestly, I feel they should've had a book set after New Tales explaining where Sasha went, why she prevented anyone from following her trail. I feel setting this book just after the first Tales, but before Borderlands 3 wasn't the right move. It would've been better to actually focus on the original Tales gang coming back together, to find where Sasha went. Maybe even Fiona lost track of where Sasha went when they both became full on Vault Hunters and she and Rhys team up once more to find clues to her whereabouts. Really hope they give that plot point some sort of continuation one day.
And nobody talks about Loaderbot and Gortys 😭
They are exploring the cosmos together 😎
let them have there peace it might be for the best.
@@jamesverner9132 but I wanna know if they are fine 🥺
What Happened to the--
Randy Pitchfork. Randy Pitchfork happened
he is also responsible for the movie being so abysmal…honestly the dude needs fired hell throw me in the wringer i can clean up the franchise in one game and two DLC tops
The first Tales was themed around how abusive corporations are and how escaping it at all costs is worth it but Gearbox, who is unsurprisingly run by a highly toxic person, has gone out of their way to punish the Tales crew for daring to do so
I think one thing to note is that Rhys and Fiona from start to finish of Tales had a very clear goal: power and money.
It’s nice to think that the events of Tales would “change” them fundamentally, but that’s not really how it works in real life. Sure some people grow and change. But most people are who they are. I see Rhys as being the natural progression of himself from Tales. Also Holo-Jack probably broke his brain a bit.
Watch Eruptions videos again, specially the one about new tales, he shows PROOF of Rhys` change, so no its not the natural progression AT ALL
Edit - He literally showed the scene here so how are you still getting it wrong
I get it, but people can become better versions of themselves, rhys may like money but don't need to be his whole personality like it is in new tales.
New Tales from the Borderlands was such a stupid idea. While yes, they made a horrible decision to kill off Maya in such a disrespectful manner and just completely dismissed her afterwards but, NTftB is still an atrociously stupid and unoriginal idea. It literally makes everyone's deaths meaningless
I think it was them experimenting with the story . to see if they could gateaway with it or not
Remember when Gearbox had zero understanding of how to write Rhys and Vaughn in BL3 and (I assume, I haven’t played it and I won’t) New Tales?
The Borderlands story is a mess right now. How can they introduce the Crystal Cosmic God that is stronger than the Destroyer and not have Tyreen go after it. She was hunting down vaults to absorb monsters and I doubt that no information was available about the Devourer's vault during the time she was active. The gameplay is good but the story is slowly becoming comic book levels of convoluted.
Pretty sure they were just experimenting with that game . what they could or not gateway with without making a full borderlands sequel . turns out nothing ! I do want this game to to be retconned . so none of the outrageously stupid ideas out man
@@adhumbla1153 Knowing Randy Bitchford and how petty he can be, especially with how awful he treated the borderlands community after the release of the horrible movie, I highly doubt he’s gonna make the franchise better tbh. That dudes completely going down the deep end while completely off his rocker.
@@harrylarry6324 long as the gameplay is great + NO mircotransactions !... I don't give a damn who is steering the ship . they could have made Bl3 with mircrotrashsactions added in but they didn't
@@adhumbla1153 be careful not to trip over that low bar you're setting.
The only cool information I've learned from this is Athena being ceo of hyperion, thats actually dope asf
Wait but didn’t Rhys already have the rights to Atlas from Jacks office? Did they know what was in their own stories? Honestly would’ve rather they kept what was in vault completely ambiguous
Sadly that book solidifies New Tales and its dumb green crystal, Gearbox just wants their cake and eat it too. They clearly want Jack back and even planned to do so in BL3 and want cheap and easy good will from the fans IE reviving Maya as that really was so bad that plot point alone was a huge negative for word of mouth on the game. Everything else is just icing on the cake for this supposed war plot, to them they probably truly believe this green crystal is not only necessary but completely justified for it without admitting they made mistakes, and the fans were right.
He returns from the abyss
my head canon is that she wished for the strength to protect her sis or the power to be a proper vault hunter
this would actually made her very weak and not a proper vault hunter. If all her future achievements would be based on magical wish powers, whats the point than. Its like those losers who do AI commissions, whats the point if art wasnt made through will, dedication, intelligence and strength? Cheaters arent worth to tell storys about.
@@bellonasservant4496 i was thinking more like she obtains siren powers from the wish either adding to the number of sirens or killing/stealing the powers of another
@@thebeyblader217 Still cheating, she doesnt need superpowers, thats the whole theme to the Tales story and characters. They arent superpowered heroes, they have to talk themselves out of dangerous situations and combat is only the last resort.
Its so much more satisfying and entertaining when she is winning because of her ingenuity and intelligence and not because she is an overpowered magical mary sue.
He returns with more borderlands content!
Who remembers 10-12 years ago when Borderlands was actually a good franchise with decent writing
Wasn't Tales less than 10 years ago
@@SwagSwagSenate Only by a couple of months. Released November 25th, 2014
@@AmericanBrit9834 yeah but didn't the episodes take months to release? The finally ep was near the end of 2015
@@SwagSwagSenate Even then, it would be close to 10 years. Time flies.
Wait didn’t Rhys already own the rights to Atlas by the end of the game? Doesn’t that make the wish completely redundant or am I not remembering right. Also trying to explain the voice actor change is so confusing, I’m not necessarily happy with the change of VA but the new one sounds almost one to one
I think the actor was troy baker? I don't think he would agree . or they could afford him
@@adhumbla1153 I’m sure there’s an official or at least more knowledgeable answer about why they changed him that I just don’t know about, but yes he was originally Troy Baker. I just find it odd since the person they got now (Ray Chase) sounds almost exactly like him to the point where I think if you didn’t know it was a different guy you wouldn’t notice at first
@@adhumbla1153 I don't have the source for this so I could be misremembering, but iirc Troy said that Gearbox hadn't even contacted him to see if he wanted to reprise his role for BL3. So it's no surprise he wasn't in New Tales either.
@@RamenLlama looks like they didn't wanna pay extra from the beginning
@RamenLlama I thought it was because Borderlands doesn't use Union actors.
Bruh, I saw Gaige on the book I was like finally some new lore stuff for Gaige. But after watching this video, now I wish they didn't include Gaige in the book.
When i heard the whole thing about the billionaires dog pilling the person who killed one of them i thought it would lead to gaige just killing all the billionaires at once in a scene akin to the opening of punisher warzone
It feels like the author wrote the book without going over the tails game and makes ot feel like they went backwards in their growth instead of improving themselves and almost feels redconed in a way
I’m literally hitting my head with a metal pipe rn
ETHAN. it’s so soothing to hear your voice again
When I heard what was in the vault my eyes glazed over and I went numb. How hard is it to write anything decent
Yeah, all that wondering about the mystery in the Vault, where the two disappeared...and it's nothing more than a stingy genie. Waste.
i know gaige not as powerful compared to other vault hunters but damn she getting captured multiple times its just not feels right to me
'Not as powerful'? Dude even without Deathtrap it's really easy to spec her into anarchy nightmare war machine, I don't know how she scales in-lore but it feels like alot of disservice us done to her personal capabilities, she's got a cybernetic arm that can crush concrete remember? She could probably pry open Helios with enough time
Honestly at this point the writer needs to hand over the position because they had a chance to fix things and didn’t in the slightest
Bruh, at this point I have 0 faith in bordelrands 4 story. BL3 story was bad, new tales was dogshit and now this book has so many things which dont make sense. It would be a miracle if the story is at least mediocre
Bl3 lost me when they killed off maya and replaced her with ava. Then makes ava their leader which makes no sense. She did nothing to deserve it
This.
There hasn't been a single enjoyable game since Tales from the Borderlands 10 years ago. TPS was barely a Borderlands games, and BL2 VR was barely a game.
We need a W or BL2 will be the last good Borderlands game and the only real Borderlands game to play, which came out 12 whole ass years ago.
I BOUGHT THE BOOK! It was alright! Anthony Burch was clearly limited in what he could write due to the state of the series at this point of time, but it gives lots of answers!!!
I read the book completely different. Fiona's entire purpose wasnt about money in this book, it was about protecting Sasha. The money would allow them to live the stable life they so desired. She never wanted to be a vault hunter, she never wanted to be rich, she just wanted to be normal. Fiona frequently criticises Sasha for her money spending problems throughout the book. Its Sasha whos obsessed, if anything. She's the one who bought the mansion, she's the one who conjured the idea of selling the Vault Lander figure. Fiona is trying to move on with her life, while Sasha slowly starts to miss the chaos and begins to seek it out, which is why i think they added Gaige to be a sort of lesson for Sasha, to not take everything for granted.
The book was good, IMO. I think its easy to criticize Borderlands because of it's reputation, but i also think we should try finding the good where we can. I recommend reading it, its fun, and answers lots of questions.
It goes against almost everything they did in Tales from the Borderlands. You are trying to find the good in it which is fine, but If you have to overlook all the bad Things and retcons to enjoy a Borderlands Story then I dont know what to tell you
@@FloundFahrdienst I also think Anthony Burch was quite limited in what he had to write, so despite the limitations I still think it was good for what it was. It was very millennial humour imo, but humour is subjective so I wouldn't really say that's a flaw, just a personal gripe I have. The whole vaultlanders thing feels so painfully forced into the series, and it could've definitely gone without the Vaultlanders storyline. I also feel like Borderlands has lost the plot, completely forgetting what it was about--- the Vaults. So far, everything we have seen about the Vaults have been underwhelming, and this book was 100% guilty of this, and it definitely feels like a punch in the face for fans who have been waiting so long to find out what happened to their favourite characters. So that's the criticism I have. But the general flow of the story was nice.
I think my main issue with his "review" was that it seemed to overlook a lot of the key points, and didn't really care to look deeper into what was happening. It seems like he went into this book expecting to hate it. I was just trying to balance out this video by adding my personal opinion, to let people know it wasn't all that bad.
@@lorrithelinguist Fair points
I found this video after seeing the Borderlands 4 teaser earlier today and wanted to refresh myself on the lore of Borderlands. I was NOT expecting to see new (VERY new at that) lore written by the Writer of Borderlands 2 and Tales and that makes me very excited for the future of the franchise. I really hope they locked in for this one.
Considering the critiques of this video, I really don't have much hope for the future writing quality of the franchise.
Vaughn turned into Captain Underpants and became a comic relief character that only 5 year olds could laugh at.
If BL4 has fiona and sasha as vault-hunters, I wouldnt be opposed. I think their action skill could be cooperative, allowing the player to be able to switch back and forth between the two having stacked inventory space for both. Idk, just a thought.
I know Rhys gets a lot of flak for his portrayal in BL3, its not as nuanced as his original debut, but I still seriously love him as a character and his entire plot line in BL3.
Love your Borderlands content!
I NEED A NEW BORDERLANDS GAME AHHHHHHH!!!!
Leaks say 2025 .! I was expecting 24. But oh well...
Personally I think Sasha is either dead or very badly injured instead of being missing. When Rhys talks about if he's ever been in love in Borderlands 3 he just responds with "I'm kinda sad now". I don't believe there's ever actually a name mentioned during the echo log where he's looking for someone and during New Tales he specifically mentions that he could ask Fiona for a new picture of Sasha, *if he can find Fiona*.
Aside from this, Rhys not only mentions that he knows what the anahadium shard is, but that he also had a very big personal investment in finding it. And Fiona is seen alone at the end of new tales talking to Markus and actively looking for the shard that can bring people back to life.
Again I could be, and probably am, very wrong and theres probably something i missed that disproves it but that's just my theory based on what I've seen in the games.
I dont think she's dead, and that's why Rhys feels sad about being in love, i think it's supposed to be him, maybe feeling like his relationship with Sasha is one of unrequited love. At the end of the new book, weirdly enough, it's Fiona who tells Rhys that Sasha is in love with him-- which is very weird. Earlier in the book, Sasha does talk to him about their relationship, but she tells him she's not ready or something like that. Rhys is absolutely in love with her but she is just missing, out there doing her thing, and that's why he's sad. It's awful that Zer0 tells him that's there's no way to find someone who doesn't wants to be found. In other words he probably feels like he got ghosted at an interplanetary level.
Who is still playing Borderlands to this day?!
I am! (Borderlands 2 mostly) 😊
You know what would be absolutely nutty?
If Rhys, Vaughn, Fiona and Sasha WERE ALL the four playable characters in borderlands 4.
It's total fanfiction but think about it....
Rhys with advanced technology, Fiona with cunning and athletics, Vaughn could bulk up to be a fearless Tank and Sasha who has been touch by the shard MIGHT make her a possible siren candidate.
I think it's warrants a "what if" scenario at least.
Id pay to see fan art / concept art of this.
Gaige, in her BL3 DLC, jokes she's busy "disappointing her parents", when she shows up at her crash site. I thought that meant her dad was still alive.
Wasn't Gaige's bounty set by Hyperion and Jack though? I believe they were so high because Jack became a multi trillionaire after creating e-tech weaponry
So excited for the new unbridged timeline of borderlands
Waah an upload! Miss your voice and videos !
Revive Maya, Roland, Blooding and Scooter back with the shard.
NOO! NOT GAIGE! Her story was perfect!!
I remember you saying torgue or however you spell his name wasn’t in charge of torgue anymore but it’s him sending you the mail in bl3 which is in direct connection to the company. If he wasn’t apart of the company why would he be sending mail to the vh
Headcanon..after the thanksgiving DLC in BL2 he blew up the entire board of directors with a HUGE F##KING EXPLOSION and took back his company in the MOST BADASS way possible!!!
@@user-jf4lt4uk7u this is also my headcannon now thank you for this lmaoooo
Why do ghouls eat only organic food?
Because its super natural
There should be a story to set up Stapleface and LOU13 as vault hunters
I can’t believe they did Gaige dirty like that. Captured multiple times? Why do they make her seem so weak and pathetic?
The return arc
its because they wanted a full female lead on every front of borderlands which is why almost everything suddenly turn female cernriuc excluding gaiges dad and the senor of the hollow family.
Imagine if Jack got this Vault
“Billionaires who control everything and commoners who are slaves to debt” - you sure you’re not talking about USA? 😂
*the entire world.
I mean, borderlands is meant to be a satire of real life soooo
But what happened to shade from borderlands 2 Captain Scarlet dlc
Just waiting here for the sad Borderlands The Movie review, will it come?
cant wait for the new borderlands timeline
Read the comments, stopped the video, I don’t wanna know
When you know the executive behind the publisher. It makes perfect sense on why these characters got assassinated with shitty writing. Big boss has "big ideas" and think he can write a really good "borderlands game" and... you see echoes of his psychotic ideology splattered across the theming. When before... it was literally the main antagonist of every game.
Welcome back dude!
LETS GOOOOO I'VE I LOVE UR BORDERLANDS VIDEO SO MUCH GLAD U MADE ANOTHER ONE KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤
I wanna know how they got to drop no gauge and how do you destroy death trap? That’s crazy and I can’t be the only person to notice that Reeses new voice sounds like the one brand in a jar from the old world blues, DLC in fallout new Vegas
Honestly my faith on the Gearbox writing team faltered after BL3, especially when the DLCs had such better stories. But after what they did to Rhys & the plot in New Tales? That faith died. Now the movie is coming out & that looks like it was cobbled together by people who barley have an idea what the franchise is.
This book is just another disappointment.
They got character assassinated by the writers of borderlands 3 it was borderline creative malpractice. The end.
Few things depress me More than how dirty characters are done in this series.Also ur goddamn right Vault Hunting should be more lucrative. From dead guy loot and selling gear to literal vending machines that can pop up in places where humans haven't stepped in centuries about 3 days work would set anyone up for life
Didn't Reece get a paper from Jack's office so that hed own Atlas?
At least Gaige killed her fathers killer the only thing in this book that gives me peace.
Will you review the Borderlands movie?
He most likely will!
In my opinion on Reese's wish I think he was wishing for more absolute confrontations yes he had the deed he was still technically a nobody a lot of other companies could have just constantly absorbed him without them even trying I think what he wished for when you wish for Atlas was more so to make sure to get a bit of a buffer so you can have enough time to actually get on his feet I have a proper stand when it was time to deal with those bottles not straight up wish for I want Atlas since he's still technically owned Atlas with the deed
How are they going to retcon that New Tales garbage
Yeah I think the people at gearbox needs to change everything with new tales or maybe they just tell people to pretend that it never happened.
There not retconning it. It’s part of the story now.
@@riveracrobat01 well it's shit
@@riveracrobat01 well it's stupid
Nice I actually want to know what happened to the characters from the tales of the borderlands
Dude where are you.... The Movie is.... I cant breath... They Fed Up!...
Fiona tried to pay everyone's debt. Can't be that greedy. Times change sometimes money is needed. It isn't everything is the message that they still live.
Fucking finally you made a video on this.
Is Sasha or Gaiges Mom or Marcy the cyber-boss in BL4? Is Marcy's dad the time keeper?
That's so funny, I haven't watched you in a while and exactly yesterday I decided to check out your new tales video, and now, boom, new upload. :)
Seems like imma play B2 and tales forever 😂
It’s better to just leave tales’ story right where it ended, it’s better to have the idea that we would never know what happened to Rhys, Fiona or the rest of the cast, because if this is the story that continues it, than I don’t want it.
I thought the assassin FROM the bl2 Craw dlc WAS Marcie's dad?
Hey, I got a question. Are you going to do a video on borderlands 4
I refuse to believe New Tales of the Borderlands is canon.
It massacred several characters and got everything else so horribly wrong that it looks like people who hated and/or never played Borderlands were given the reins and funding to make a major Borderlands game.
New Tales never happened
It was a bad dream
I refuse to acknowledge its existence
In surprised you haven't said anything about the Borderlands movie.
They did alot dirty rhys and vaughn
I loved borderlands debt or alive. It had a lot of things I actually hoped for.
The corporates war were wasted, it should have been bigger
Characters cannot act in ways that their authors cannot conceive.
Tho Borderlands franchise really sinked
It's more like a delusional dream of a person with a temperature of 39 + Celsius.
Where's Dr. Zed?💀
With the massive decline in the quality of the stories lately, I'm not sure I even want anything else from the Borderlands franchise at this point. If all they're gonna give us is this crap, just stop making stuff. I'd rather see it end than continue to be a shell of its former self.
Somebody PLEASE give me the outro song 😭
New tales will never be canon in my eyes
changing out rhys's og voice actor was a huge mistake.
Fuck yeah 😢
Nooo, I wish this book didn't exist now. I wanted Fiona's story to be more than that, but poop... I wished none of these Tales from the Borderlands were touched. Oh well, at least Loaderbot and Gortys are safe from more writing?
All of their appearances in following games were actually all robotic clones and the originals are actually off on adventures and that is NOT how Rhys ended up👍🙂🥲
Honestly the only thing I liked about New Tales was the Vaultlander figures.
And the robot bounty hunter guy was pretty cool actually