It’s an immigration and government problem, where low skilled people are brought to this country in huge numbers , allowing companies like Chuhan to exploit them, and the state government giving licenses as a freebies. Country is at downhill… Stop low skill immigration and certainly stop giving student visa to low quality of students. High GMAT and GRE score should be mandatory.
@@hebber1961yes. Look around this isnt isolated. It is happening everywhere. Hitting bridges/rolling over/running into and over cars/speeding in bad weather. I can go on. This IS a driver problem. And when they screw up they try to blame shift it. Or the best one I dont speak english and try to leave the scene
Certain "new canadians" hand out class 1 liscence's to certain "new canadians" via thier driving schools exclusive to certain "new canadian's". It's not a secret.
Does it point to a bigger issue? Why yes it does, temporary foreign drivers,drivers who don’t speak, read or write the language, who attend driving schools that rubber stamp “PASS” for everyone who pays tuition fees. This is the problem.
We have the same problem in Ontario. The problem is people paying for their license not earning it. It's a well known issue that the government does nothing about.
It's also an easy thing for government agencies to blame the wrong thing in the name of diversity. Easier to blame a company than government policies that brought us this danger in the first place. Would you hop in a truck with a high load and just go? There's a huge level of responsibility to the driver's own safety.
Who do you want to blame shift this to? The driver is in control of the truck! He can easily stop when too high to pass under. Instead just keeps charging ahead and hits the bridge. How can you blame someone else for this
Too many punjabi drivers in BC which is working more hours than they allow to work and nothing is regulate by BC government when it comes to truck industry.
100% truth. I had a former driver working for one of those companies Tell me the exact same thing. Forced to work more hours than legally allowed to get to the destination faster. The problem is government regulation is not stopping them from breaking the law. And people are getting killed.
There are 1.4 billion ppl in India. It's cheaper to use revolving door hiring practice than it is to train good drivers. One 'new' driver crashes, so what? There are a hundred more arriving at the airport.
Quadruple = raising the fines from $115 to $575. And every driver will receive four slaps on the wrist instead of one. The regulations are a complete joke.
The work permits referred to in the story isn't anything to do with immigration laws. Trucking safety laws in BC require that the trucking company create a work permit for every trip. That work permit requires the driver to measure the load height, then it requires the dispatcher to analyze the proposed route to see if the load will clear the overpasses. In this latest accident, the driver was instructed to wait for the work permit. The driver didn't wait.
@@e-curbits for oversized loads. Everybody does it with a load that isn't divisible or is too heavy. They cost money. Alot of times companies try* to slide without one.
Problem is there is nobody left other than new Canadians to do the job. Nobody wants to drive truck. They keep bringing poor quality workers into the industry to the point they have to regulate and micromanage the crap out of everyone. This leads to more high quality workers leaving, which then leads to more low quality workers being needed, which leads to more regulation and micromanagement… and so on and so on
Its points to the fact that importing cheap labour under the guise of strength and enrichment is really putting Canadians in danger. Let’s be honest, we don’t have a labour shortage, we have a hours, pay, benefits shortage!
We have a cost of living crisis. I’m a driver that will be done driving over the next year. These drivers are creating so much red tape the only way to get a license is by to either purchase a license from a trucking school. Who has the time to take 3 months of training unpaid just to earn a license for a $21 an hour job that pays $25 in the U.S.
Mm, I know my comment doesn't go into that, but yeah, my feelings exactly, I'm not racist, neither of us are, but it's hard to deny that reading comprehension and traffic sign interpretation are a *must* get people who can master both, and start putting out more reasonable wages, benefits and yeah, hours too.
The clearance height of BC has zero relevancy or cause for this problem. You need to know your route and know whether your load or truck can fit that route thats part of the job.
Exactly right @Sonata727 It still is something most drivers do before they hit the road. Know the weight, height, width of the load and double check the route for all that.
good grief , some one should tell the united truckers Association to train his fellow east Indian's right, not pass the excuse to make taller bridges - good grief
Yes, it became a “bigger issue” when half the Humboldt Hockey Team got wiped out in 2018. And not a damn thing has changed otherwise, Olympic Skater Alexandra Paul would still be alive, after she and her newborn got pancaked by another “arrive and drive” trucker in Ontario last summer!!!
The government is also rubber stamping "Electricians" with absolutely zero practical experience or knowledge of Canadian electrical code. It takes 9000 hours of practical and in class training for a Canadian to become an Electrician and a multiple choice test for a foreigner. I watched one tie three separate 600 v phases to the same terminal which would have exploded had it been energized - and this by a "licenced industrial electrician." This person had no idea how to wire a receptacle - I'm not making that up. We had to let them go due to how incredibly dangerous it is to put someone in this job with this level of inexperience. It boggles my mind that this is happening so to see trucks running into overpasses doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
I'm an electrician here born and raised here only need 6000 hrs bro and lots of schooling at the end it's not really worth it because you can't compete with new electricians from India their prices are so low bro
And to think years ago I was working in the BC film industry and I couldn't get an electrical ticket for that application, despite having spent two years in college studying electronics, and knowing more about 3 phase electrical systems and the BC Code than 99% of the guys I was working with!!!!
That all sounds kind of weird. When I go in to pick up an oversize load I know the height, width and weight of it. Permits and routing are already in place and pilot vehicle if needed. I guess when shippers contract 2 bit trucking companies they get 2 bit service.
Holy cow. Chohan had hit 6 overpasses collisions in 2 years and is still in operation???? The United Truckers Association director was from India and didn't wanna blame the driver. What a joke. Canada is going down the rabbit hole rapidly.
I used to drive the mountains in winter, damn near every truck i see upside down is a foreigner, they drive with little regard for others and always impatient. I don't know how many times I've been passed by foreigners doing one km an hr more than me up a mountain grade, if your a driver you know this is dangerous as it comes, today the industry wont hire me because I refuse to share mountain roads with people who have less than a year experience( I wont drive the mountains anymore)..there is no trucker shortage there is just companies who want dangerous drivers who will drive overweight and over hours
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In my opinion no driver should be allowed to haul an oversized load without 3 to 5 years of verifiable commercial driving experience. I have hauled oversized loads all over North America without incident, knowing and following the rules in regards to these loads is critical n if drivers dont knoow then it is up to the trucking company to train them and to make sure they have the proper measuring tools and know the regulations.
Then how will drivers be trained if they are not hiven the opportunity 🤔? The load should be secured, its height measured, and then get permits by the company. Only then should the driver be driving.
Then there’s no incentive for citizens to get licensed and trucking companies will continue to hire people from elsewhere that have no grasp of the language and either lie about their qualifications, fraudulently certify them, or fast track them through schools they run or are associated with. More stringent training, licensing requirements, oversight and contract classification would be best.
The company is majority the blame if they have had that many incidents in 2 years … poor preparation and procedures in the place clearly followed by hiring under qualified drivers
Please instead of complaining, I’d recommend you go become a truck drive and set up an example for other new drivers! Please be the change rather than complaining! Inspire people. Go be a mentor
Every driver is responsible to know their loaded truck heights and the standard height of overpasses, bridges, and tunnels. Not a single mention of driver training or how they cheat the system to get their license. Not only that, the greed for money abd general disdain for DOT laws or that the roads are shared with vehicles of ALL sizes. When the trucking industry was not dominated by greedy East Indians bringing their style of driving vs when trucking industry had trucking companies with drivers who were predominantly white, there were fewer accidents because the driver training and licensing was taken seriously. The drivers didn't have the opportunity of technology to cheat on written exams because cell phones were allowed when taking the written exam and Uncle Google was used to cheat. Before the internet no such cheating occurred. It was all studying and on the road training that earned the driver the license
It amazes me how a brand new class 1 driver can't get hired to be a driver without 2-3 years experience or insurance won't cover them. Meanwhile this stuff happens regularily to diversity drivers. How do they bipass the system? (Rhetorical question, I know the answer)
I got my AZ a year ago and I can't find a job. I was offered a job hauling lime dust being paid by the load and at the end of the ride along it worked out to $13 an hour. The only decent jobs for new drivers are not hiring white people. Trucking companies get kickbacks for diversity hires.
They go to work for companies ran by punjabs who nobody else will work for because they have them wrenching on and driving their trucks for 22 dollars an hour lol
@@RaneBaneI’ve dealt with drivers for these companies when I drove heavy wrecker. I actually feel bad for them. They often told me there boss would deduct my bill from their pay after they got stuck and I had to winch them out. It is 100% illegal to deduct pay for an accident but these guys don’t care about their drivers or labour laws. They just want the money rolling in so they can have a bunch of g wagons while the people they employ just scrape by.
@@RaneBaneI did one where the driveshaft launched when the guy was accelerating after his light turned green. It knocked a line off the fuel tank and leaked fuel everywhere. When I was all hooked up to tow it off the road the driver was on the phone with the truck owner and the boss was telling him it was his fault because he must have been driving the truck too hard. For one it was an automatic so not easy for a driver to shock load anything, and for two the ujoint cup that failed had no grease in it due to No maintenance by the owner of the truck and was severely worn. If I hadn’t spoke up he probably would have took a bunch of pay off the driver. We had to pump a bunch of fuel out of the truck so it would stop leaking and the owner actually wanted us to subtract the value of the fuel we pumped out from his tow bill.
Why show a thumbnail of a Coast Mountain Bus ( some of the most highly trained drivers on the road (coming from a former driver), when the issue has nothing to do with public transportation? Why not directly name the company who has now smashed into 6 overpasses in the last 2 years in the thumbnail so as to not add confusion to a very simple issue. These big rig drivers are constantly in the news for one accident or another, and it all boils down to poor government policy, untrained drivers who obtain licenses through a variety of schemes, drivers who are incentivized to drive until they drop and companies who look the other way as their drivers exceed their maximum allowable driving hours. People get larger fines for speeding than these companies get for destroying our infrastructure, or causing deadly accidents. The companies blame the drivers. The public at large pay the consequences, either the bill for repairs or hours long traffic delays for something totally avoidable. Just wait to hear the lawsuits from the truckers union when the government brings in self driving trucks, that follow a safe planned route, no driver fatigue or lack of training. Look at the cab industry, do a horrible job for years, then cry when Uber and Lyft arrive and play the victim.
As a truck driver myself there is definately a big problem in the trucking industry Didn't use to be like this. We used to be tespected, now we're a laughing stock!!!
Not all of you Sir. I, for one, respect your skill, the long hours, the hectic driving conditions and difficult time lines you are challenged with. The training process is not nearly extensive enough for those seeking to enter the industry. You really can't blame the new drivers fully either. They passed the MOT licensing .....'we' said they were good to go. When every significant warehouse has to hire independently a truly experienced driver just to back the truck & trailers into the dock for loading and unloading...there is a bigger issue.
I know. Except for the Trucker's Convoy in 2022, we are all considered idiots, and since 2022 everyone has forgotten about what ALL TRUCKERS do to keep EVERYTHING MOVING!!!!
100% both the driver and companies fault. I bet the driver hasn't even been driving a truck for over a year. Id put money on it that the company hired him right as he got off the boat.
let's get real. these are all Indians that do this. they don't have to do any upgrading when coming from abroad . Meaning they get their license in india and start driving here right away with no testing or upgrading.
If the driver left without authorization, why wasn't he recalled by dispatch? It's not that the driver recieved an authorized route and decided on another route; he wasn't given a route and wasn't stopped.
Sorry but your company is an issue too. After the first time one of your employees or owner operators hit a bridge, you should have instituted policies and procedures that insured this never happened again. Obviously you are in the business of hauling oversized freight, you know how high the load is when you quote a price on the phone before it’s even on the truck, and you know how high your step deck trailers are. The load shouldn’t be even loaded until you have secured permits and routing instructions or you should be paying the drivers a reasonable hourly rate while they sit and wait for permits to keep drivers from being in a hurry. If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. Clearly you are paying peanuts so you can undercut the competition and still make a good profit.
Driver error, are they properly licensed or was there money under the table for a "passing grade", the driver should know his length, and width, with a route plan.
It points to the fact that good drivers are hard to find because drivers have been getting their wages slashed for decades, while huge corporations have been raking in the bucks and not paying for all work performed especially in gravel hauling where developers, prime contractors, and banks have been cleaning up and literally shafting sub-contractors while prices on homes have gone ballistic!!!
Proposed new law: Any driver who does not know the total height of his vehicle plus the load should not be on the road. Prior to taking off onto the highway, all drivers must logged the total height. Failure to do so must result in an immediate fine of $3,000.00 to the driver VIA random highway inspections. A crash involving a truck with the over or under pass must result in immediate suspension of the entire fleet for one month or longer. This is to be accompanied by a mandatory 24 hour training of all drivers with the firm. All personnel associated with the firm shall be prohibited from owning or affiliation with trucking operations in Canada for a period of five years.
Yes, Why do we also build to the bare minimum? Single lane everywhere, Minimum hight overpasses... Why? This province needs to learn it can think ahead rather than playing catchup 24/7
I agree 100% No matter what it is.. Roads, schools, hospitals. There's no forward thinking when it comes to infrastructure. Governments on all levels should be held accountable.
"we had extensive training and safety protocols" Yeah, "had"...Past tense...I know companies end up hiring bad drivers now and again and it's not the company's fault, but this many times? I'm sensing cheapskatery shenanigans here...
Hopefully the bridge fixes go smoother than the 2015-2016 Lake Nipigon bridge experience. For a short time the Trans Canada road network was cut into two separate networks.
It seems simple to me, how about you train the lorry drivers adequately. Weak hiring processes and low quality drivers. Surely every driver should know the height of his load etc.
@@mja532 yes the driver can read the height on the bridge but how would you know the exact height of the load without the despatcher giving you the proper bill of lading
Yeah, it points to the public diminishing what truck drivers do. We are so eager to slap licenses into peoples hands no matter what the trade is, diminishing what they do. Fast tracking licenses from truck drivers all the way up to doctors is not reasonable… What is the desperation for getting so many immigrants into this country? What’s the rush?
Especially when our infrastructure is just not keeping up with the population explosion from India and China, and they sure like to help themselves to all those services!
Only way to make money in the industry is to cut corners. Thats why there is no drivers anymore and we have to import them. Unless youre pulling tankers or hauling equipment in the patch, you may aswell be driving a forklift. Lol
I wouldn't say it points to a bigger isue, but it leads to other possible causes. For instance, a similar incident happened to my cousin, Billy, however his scenario was unavoidable. At the very moment he was heading trough an overpass a homeless fellow became disloded from his perch under the bridge and rolled down the embankment and underneath the wheels of his vehicle. The resulting difference in height caused him to strike the bridge through no fault of his own. There was some significant damage done to the bridge, but the homeless lad was damaged beyond repair. It was later deteremined that the homeless man was from Ontario.
Here’s an idea, how about a clearance height bar, like those you see at some drive throughs, 1000ft before any overpass that needs it. If they’re going to hit the overpass anyways. It’s better if they hit some plastic tubing.
How about doing your job and knowing what you're loaded with. Read your permits and routing! Your type is the reason we need all the safety crap we have today!
@@Bokug1 my type? lol. You must be so smart and tough. That safety stuff?? I bet you think seatbelts and airbags are for wimps too. I guess no one in your world ever has a lapse of judgement.
@ShutterMAX What does reading permits and knowing your routing have anything to do with being a tough guy? If you're talking about all the safety crap, we do have to protect stupid people today. I have all my digits and extremities. it's called situational awareness. I've been driving 28 years. I have no accidents (three speeding tickets, including personal vehicles). I guess I'm a tough guy, or I just take my professional career seriously. FYI... no one is perfect. I had to back up three blocks in Chicago. Thank God it was early in the morning, 2:30 a.m. I didn't hit the bridge because I can read signs!
Until we have a real justice system handing out real penalties that hurt like hell and cost the company double the repair bill, we will all continue to be made a fool of and be put at risk by idiots on both sides.
Biggest issue in BC is a lot of the local business and managerial class cut corners to increase profits. Everyone who has worked any job in the lower mainland can tell you that many things aren't done by the book. This is especially true in construction, and even more especially true in the transportation segment of construction. What used to be a job that would pay more than a living wage has become a race to the bottom that decent operators have to fight against minimum wage foreign labor with questionable skills and documents. More so, many trucking companies are so dead set on speed and throughput that they forgo regular maintenance and safety checks on vehicles. Every week I see a broken down truck on the side of the highway, and almost every day I see operators doing stupid things on the road. Anyone who has worked in construction can tell you a story of absolutely crazy nonsense pulled by truck operators.
I have worked in civil construction for 30 years, and in the beginning, there was alot of miss communication due to the language barrier......fast forward 30 years and it's still the same thing.
Once again citizens got to pay for mistakes Of others.. Any foreign truck drivers should have to go an actual real test. Not with people beside them who speak their language
Most truck drivers are foreigners that do not have experience on our highways. They also don’t care and can be paid off to sabotage companies too. Who benefits the most from this company closing?
There shouldnt be overpasses where its possible, idk its like putting crossing arms on a train crossing, yea its there fault for not measuring the hight but like they shouldnt have to deal with that in the first place, need to build it right in the first place
It definitely does for some people , i remember in the 80s you would see RCMP cruisers every 5kms between Chilliwack and Vancouver, they even had Camaros and Mustangs in RCMP livery, now they barely leave the station due to huge budget constraints
In 1999, there was a coroner's inquest after 2 high profile multiple fatality runaways...Horseshoe Bay Ferry Terminal and Kamloops.The coroner's findings resulted in a huge hiring spree of safety officers to staff the weigh scales/inspection stations 24/7. That made a huge difference in a positive way to a safer transportation sector in BC. Now, 20+ years later, staffing levels at the inspection stations are down, hours of operation are down, drivers wages are down, driver safety and professionalism are down. Meanwhile, the BC government fired experienced CVSE safety officers for non compliance with the provinces coof mandate...becuase safety or something. There are thousands of qualified professionals in BC that were fired and never rehired in the last few years. Doctors, nurses, safety officers, patrol officers, social workers, prison guards, scientists, etc. Guaranteed, their coof mandates have done more damage than good, this is just another example. The lifestyle and services in BC are getting worse by the day. The government here is either incompetent or evil.
The issue is these Hindu trucking companies hiring substandard and incompetent drivers and not maintaining their fleet. This is how they undercut their competition when providing quotes.
Lack of comprehensive training?? Ahh try lack of comprehension. The action or capability of understanding something. Don't understand English. Don't understand rules. Don't understand patience. I see this EVERYDAY!! Forget going after insurance, fine the driver 500 grand and no license until its paid. It was HIS responsibility, not just the company to know. He was the one who loaded it. He was the one who should have measured its height. And he was the one who put the truck in gear and drove off.
How about not giving class 1 licenses out like they are candy! I've been driving for 28 yrs now, and the drivers are terrible today. It used to be 85% good drivers on the road, and it is now flipped to 85% if not more bad drivers. We dont have a driver shortage. We have a retention shortage. Good drivers are underpaid because companies hire poor drivers for less money and play the odds. My personal belief is that automatic trucks have made it easy to get a license. You shouldn't be allowed to do a road test with an automatic and shouldn't be allowed to use one until you have 5 years of experience. It should be a reward if you choose one, not an easy way into the profession! I also think companies should pay for drivers' actions and be accountable for the hires they make. It's easy to fire someone and just hire a new poorly trained driver and not be accountable!
A few years ago BC sent out a chain up survey. It was in English/french & Punjab! Well, that tells you that there is a problem….. I can tell you now, an oversize permit in BC isn’t issued in Punjab. Nor should it be. Also the permit office does make mistakes. You need to know what you’re doing and use your eyes.
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Hitting one overpass is a driver problem.
Hitting six overpasses and crashing into a house within two years is a company problem.
Simple as that.
Not necessarily. Never was an issue before. What's new here? Is there something new about the pool of drivers that's making this worse than ever?
It is not one driver at all times, different drivers at different times.
Correct, this company has a systemic quality control problem.
It’s an immigration and government problem, where low skilled people are brought to this country in huge numbers , allowing companies like Chuhan to exploit them, and the state government giving licenses as a freebies. Country is at downhill… Stop low skill immigration and certainly stop giving student visa to low quality of students. High GMAT and GRE score should be mandatory.
@@hebber1961yes. Look around this isnt isolated. It is happening everywhere. Hitting bridges/rolling over/running into and over cars/speeding in bad weather. I can go on. This IS a driver problem. And when they screw up they try to blame shift it. Or the best one I dont speak english and try to leave the scene
Certain "new canadians" hand out class 1 liscence's to certain "new canadians" via thier driving schools exclusive to certain "new canadian's".
It's not a secret.
Does it point to a bigger issue? Why yes it does, temporary foreign drivers,drivers who don’t speak, read or write the language, who attend driving schools that rubber stamp “PASS” for everyone who pays tuition fees. This is the problem.
Just wait until this attitude infects the airline industry.
Humboldt Broncos crash. That pretty much sums it up.
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Are you saying Jaggs Moga #1 Drive school isn't a top tier school?
@@pinkyskeleton5410: I know a blind paraplegic who got his class 1 there.
We have the same problem in Ontario. The problem is people paying for their license not earning it. It's a well known issue that the government does nothing about.
Then they go work for these Mickey Mouse outfits
Blaming drivers is an easy thing to do for bunch of an indian own companies.
Driver is indian too. 😂
Punjabi 😂
Specifically Punjabi, the rest of India absolutely hates them for how bad they've made people view India as a whole
It's also an easy thing for government agencies to blame the wrong thing in the name of diversity. Easier to blame a company than government policies that brought us this danger in the first place.
Would you hop in a truck with a high load and just go? There's a huge level of responsibility to the driver's own safety.
Who do you want to blame shift this to? The driver is in control of the truck! He can easily stop when too high to pass under. Instead just keeps charging ahead and hits the bridge. How can you blame someone else for this
Bigger issue is the licensing process. They pass people who got no clue just cuz they friends or family.
Who are they?
Too many punjabi drivers in BC which is working more hours than they allow to work and nothing is regulate by BC government when it comes to truck industry.
Nailed it!
100% truth. I had a former driver working for one of those companies Tell me the exact same thing. Forced to work more hours than legally allowed to get to the destination faster. The problem is government regulation is not stopping them from breaking the law. And people are getting killed.
You get a better and more truthful report of what’s going on by reading the comments from an informed public than from the news report
There are 1.4 billion ppl in India. It's cheaper to use revolving door hiring practice than it is to train good drivers.
One 'new' driver crashes, so what? There are a hundred more arriving at the airport.
Diversity with a driver license, that's all... 😬
Quadruple = raising the fines from $115 to $575. And every driver will receive four slaps on the wrist instead of one. The regulations are a complete joke.
Stop drivers with work permits in canada.stop work permits in truck industry and stop foreign drivers in canada.
The work permits referred to in the story isn't anything to do with immigration laws. Trucking safety laws in BC require that the trucking company create a work permit for every trip. That work permit requires the driver to measure the load height, then it requires the dispatcher to analyze the proposed route to see if the load will clear the overpasses. In this latest accident, the driver was instructed to wait for the work permit. The driver didn't wait.
@@e-curbits for oversized loads. Everybody does it with a load that isn't divisible or is too heavy. They cost money. Alot of times companies try* to slide without one.
Problem is there is nobody left other than new Canadians to do the job. Nobody wants to drive truck. They keep bringing poor quality workers into the industry to the point they have to regulate and micromanage the crap out of everyone. This leads to more high quality workers leaving, which then leads to more low quality workers being needed, which leads to more regulation and micromanagement… and so on and so on
Its points to the fact that importing cheap labour under the guise of strength and enrichment is really putting Canadians in danger. Let’s be honest, we don’t have a labour shortage, we have a hours, pay, benefits shortage!
And a domestic productivity problem.
We have a cost of living crisis. I’m a driver that will be done driving over the next year. These drivers are creating so much red tape the only way to get a license is by to either purchase a license from a trucking school.
Who has the time to take 3 months of training unpaid just to earn a license for a $21 an hour job that pays $25 in the U.S.
New drivers to Canada with little regard for regulations. So much so they can't even care about their own safety to hit bridges.
Mm, I know my comment doesn't go into that, but yeah, my feelings exactly, I'm not racist, neither of us are, but it's hard to deny that reading comprehension and traffic sign interpretation are a *must* get people who can master both, and start putting out more reasonable wages, benefits and yeah, hours too.
Racist much? None of what you said has any basis in fact. None whatsoever.
The clearance height of BC has zero relevancy or cause for this problem. You need to know your route and know whether your load or truck can fit that route thats part of the job.
This part. Of course a trucker would blame the bridge instead of their own incompetence 😂
Exactly right @Sonata727 It still is something most drivers do before they hit the road. Know the weight, height, width of the load and double check the route for all that.
The driver association is saying- driver hits the bridge because the bridge was there and should move!....
good grief , some one should tell the united truckers Association to train his fellow east Indian's right, not pass the excuse to make taller bridges - good grief
Yes, it became a “bigger issue” when half the Humboldt Hockey Team got wiped out in 2018. And not a damn thing has changed otherwise, Olympic Skater Alexandra Paul would still be alive, after she and her newborn got pancaked by another “arrive and drive” trucker in Ontario last summer!!!
The government is also rubber stamping "Electricians" with absolutely zero practical experience or knowledge of Canadian electrical code. It takes 9000 hours of practical and in class training for a Canadian to become an Electrician and a multiple choice test for a foreigner. I watched one tie three separate 600 v phases to the same terminal which would have exploded had it been energized - and this by a "licenced industrial electrician." This person had no idea how to wire a receptacle - I'm not making that up. We had to let them go due to how incredibly dangerous it is to put someone in this job with this level of inexperience. It boggles my mind that this is happening so to see trucks running into overpasses doesn't surprise me in the slightest.
I'm an electrician here born and raised here only need 6000 hrs bro and lots of schooling at the end it's not really worth it because you can't compete with new electricians from India their prices are so low bro
And to think years ago I was working in the BC film industry and I couldn't get an electrical ticket for that application, despite having spent two years in college studying electronics, and knowing more about 3 phase electrical systems and the BC Code than 99% of the guys I was working with!!!!
Become and electrician then and save canada instead of blogging on RUclips. Open white only electricians. Of course they do a better job
That all sounds kind of weird. When I go in to pick up an oversize load I know the height, width and weight of it. Permits and routing are already in place and pilot vehicle if needed. I guess when shippers contract 2 bit trucking companies they get 2 bit service.
That woman looks like she's hiding something. Probably told him he didn't need a permit. Lol.
Most drivers don’t even know English these days.
And I have seen more and more damaged trucks coming to my place all the time
Do something about it then instead of blogging on RUclips 🤡
Holy cow. Chohan had hit 6 overpasses collisions in 2 years and is still in operation???? The United Truckers Association director was from India and didn't wanna blame the driver. What a joke. Canada is going down the rabbit hole rapidly.
Yep and drives licence can be bought.
I used to drive the mountains in winter, damn near every truck i see upside down is a foreigner, they drive with little regard for others and always impatient. I don't know how many times I've been passed by foreigners doing one km an hr more than me up a mountain grade, if your a driver you know this is dangerous as it comes, today the industry wont hire me because I refuse to share mountain roads with people who have less than a year experience( I wont drive the mountains anymore)..there is no trucker shortage there is just companies who want dangerous drivers who will drive overweight and over hours
Send the bill, to the company!
They will be back in business in a few days. Just flip owners and different name on truck.
In Brampton they get a license and 12 duplicates for their family.
Mandatory Jail Sentence then deportation back to India after doing the time.
Lol internet tough guy with all the answers.
@@kparmar6165 A judge has dismissed applications from the truck driver who caused the deadly Humboldt Broncos bus crash and was fighting deportation back to India.
Jaskirat Singh Sidhu was sentenced to eight years for causing the 2018 crash in Saskatchewan that killed 16 people and injured 13 others. He pleaded guilty to dangerous driving charges.
The rookie Calgary trucker, a newly married permanent resident, barrelled through a stop sign at a rural intersection near Tisdale, Sask., and drove into the path of the bus carrying the junior hockey team players to a playoff game.
Sidhu was granted parole earlier this year, but the Canada Border Services Agency had recommended he be deported.
Sidhu’s lawyer, Michael Greene, argued before Federal Court in September that border services officials didn’t consider Sidhu’s previously clean criminal record and remorse.
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Greene asked that the agency be ordered to conduct a second review of the case and set aside the decision.
“The facts underlying Mr. Sidhu’s applications to this court were devastating for everyone involved. Many lives were lost, others were torn apart, and many hopes and dreams were shattered,” Chief Justice Paul Crampton wrote in his decision Thursday.
“Unfortunately, nothing this court decides can change much of those truly tragic consequences.”
Crampton said border officials were fair in their assessment and addressed both Sidhu’s record and “extraordinary degree of genuine, heart-wrenching remorse.”
“The officer’s decision was appropriately justified, transparent and intelligible,” Crampton wrote. “It also reflected an internally coherent and rational chain of analysis, and meaningfully engaged with the key issues raised by Mr. Sidhu.”
He said Sidhu now faces removal to India, after spending years of hard work establishing a life with his wife in Canada.
The judge added that Sidhu can still ask for permanent resident status on humanitarian and compassionate grounds.
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In my opinion no driver should be allowed to haul an oversized load without 3 to 5 years of verifiable commercial driving experience. I have hauled oversized loads all over North America without incident, knowing and following the rules in regards to these loads is critical n if drivers dont knoow then it is up to the trucking company to train them and to make sure they have the proper measuring tools and know the regulations.
Then how will drivers be trained if they are not hiven the opportunity 🤔? The load should be secured, its height measured, and then get permits by the company. Only then should the driver be driving.
Then there’s no incentive for citizens to get licensed and trucking companies will continue to hire people from elsewhere that have no grasp of the language and either lie about their qualifications, fraudulently certify them, or fast track them through schools they run or are associated with. More stringent training, licensing requirements, oversight and contract classification would be best.
The company is majority the blame if they have had that many incidents in 2 years … poor preparation and procedures in the place clearly followed by hiring under qualified drivers
Please instead of complaining, I’d recommend you go become a truck drive and set up an example for other new drivers! Please be the change rather than complaining! Inspire people. Go be a mentor
They own all the trucking, they are a danger to anyone else on the road, fired from one company only to get hired by the next one down the road.
Every driver is responsible to know their loaded truck heights and the standard height of overpasses, bridges, and tunnels. Not a single mention of driver training or how they cheat the system to get their license. Not only that, the greed for money abd general disdain for DOT laws or that the roads are shared with vehicles of ALL sizes.
When the trucking industry was not dominated by greedy East Indians bringing their style of driving vs when trucking industry had trucking companies with drivers who were predominantly white, there were fewer accidents because the driver training and licensing was taken seriously. The drivers didn't have the opportunity of technology to cheat on written exams because cell phones were allowed when taking the written exam and Uncle Google was used to cheat. Before the internet no such cheating occurred. It was all studying and on the road training that earned the driver the license
Why block comments on the videos that matter, but keep them open on the ones that don’t?
Anything of legal height would not be hitting most bridges. Driver was just too lazy to do the job correctly.
Camels pulling carts aren’t that high
It amazes me how a brand new class 1 driver can't get hired to be a driver without 2-3 years experience or insurance won't cover them. Meanwhile this stuff happens regularily to diversity drivers. How do they bipass the system? (Rhetorical question, I know the answer)
I got my AZ a year ago and I can't find a job. I was offered a job hauling lime dust being paid by the load and at the end of the ride along it worked out to $13 an hour. The only decent jobs for new drivers are not hiring white people. Trucking companies get kickbacks for diversity hires.
They go to work for companies ran by punjabs who nobody else will work for because they have them wrenching on and driving their trucks for 22 dollars an hour lol
@@RaneBaneI’ve dealt with drivers for these companies when I drove heavy wrecker. I actually feel bad for them. They often told me there boss would deduct my bill from their pay after they got stuck and I had to winch them out. It is 100% illegal to deduct pay for an accident but these guys don’t care about their drivers or labour laws. They just want the money rolling in so they can have a bunch of g wagons while the people they employ just scrape by.
@@RaneBaneI did one where the driveshaft launched when the guy was accelerating after his light turned green. It knocked a line off the fuel tank and leaked fuel everywhere. When I was all hooked up to tow it off the road the driver was on the phone with the truck owner and the boss was telling him it was his fault because he must have been driving the truck too hard. For one it was an automatic so not easy for a driver to shock load anything, and for two the ujoint cup that failed had no grease in it due to No maintenance by the owner of the truck and was severely worn. If I hadn’t spoke up he probably would have took a bunch of pay off the driver. We had to pump a bunch of fuel out of the truck so it would stop leaking and the owner actually wanted us to subtract the value of the fuel we pumped out from his tow bill.
Why show a thumbnail of a Coast Mountain Bus ( some of the most highly trained drivers on the road (coming from a former driver), when the issue has nothing to do with public transportation? Why not directly name the company who has now smashed into 6 overpasses in the last 2 years in the thumbnail so as to not add confusion to a very simple issue.
These big rig drivers are constantly in the news for one accident or another, and it all boils down to poor government policy, untrained drivers who obtain licenses through a variety of schemes, drivers who are incentivized to drive until they drop and companies who look the other way as their drivers exceed their maximum allowable driving hours.
People get larger fines for speeding than these companies get for destroying our infrastructure, or causing deadly accidents. The companies blame the drivers.
The public at large pay the consequences, either the bill for repairs or hours long traffic delays for something totally avoidable.
Just wait to hear the lawsuits from the truckers union when the government brings in self driving trucks, that follow a safe planned route, no driver fatigue or lack of training.
Look at the cab industry, do a horrible job for years, then cry when Uber and Lyft arrive and play the victim.
Hiring cab drivers from middle east!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Was the driver from Brampton?
Never forget Humboldt
As a truck driver myself there is definately a big problem in the trucking industry
Didn't use to be like this.
We used to be tespected, now we're a laughing stock!!!
Not all of you Sir. I, for one, respect your skill, the long hours, the hectic driving conditions and difficult time lines you are challenged with. The training process is not nearly extensive enough for those seeking to enter the industry. You really can't blame the new drivers fully either. They passed the MOT licensing .....'we' said they were good to go. When every significant warehouse has to hire independently a truly experienced driver just to back the truck & trailers into the dock for loading and unloading...there is a bigger issue.
I know. Except for the Trucker's Convoy in 2022, we are all considered idiots, and since 2022 everyone has forgotten about what ALL TRUCKERS do to keep EVERYTHING MOVING!!!!
...Can I have my country back please?
There is one constant in this dilemma. Guess what it is???
Diversity is our strength
I can feel your sarcasm and I love every second of it
@SpankMode-wp9ej Not sure but is DOT for a motorcycle
100% both the driver and companies fault.
I bet the driver hasn't even been driving a truck for over a year.
Id put money on it that the company hired him right as he got off the boat.
let's get real. these are all Indians that do this. they don't have to do any upgrading when coming from abroad . Meaning they get their license in india and start driving here right away with no testing or upgrading.
Chohan. All that needs to be said about where the driver was from
All 10 ton trucks or larger should be regulated to go 10km slower than the speed limit and to STAY in the slower lane unless absolutely necessary.
If the driver left without authorization, why wasn't he recalled by dispatch?
It's not that the driver recieved an authorized route and decided on another route; he wasn't given a route and wasn't stopped.
Sorry but your company is an issue too. After the first time one of your employees or owner operators hit a bridge, you should have instituted policies and procedures that insured this never happened again. Obviously you are in the business of hauling oversized freight, you know how high the load is when you quote a price on the phone before it’s even on the truck, and you know how high your step deck trailers are. The load shouldn’t be even loaded until you have secured permits and routing instructions or you should be paying the drivers a reasonable hourly rate while they sit and wait for permits to keep drivers from being in a hurry. If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys. Clearly you are paying peanuts so you can undercut the competition and still make a good profit.
Almost ever Indian driver is talking on the phone
Driver error, are they properly licensed or was there money under the table for a "passing grade", the driver should know his length, and width, with a route plan.
You let in the trash and of course it's gonna stink.
It points to the fact that good drivers are hard to find because drivers have been getting their wages slashed for decades, while huge corporations have been raking in the bucks and not paying for all work performed especially in gravel hauling where developers, prime contractors, and banks have been cleaning up and literally shafting sub-contractors while prices on homes have gone ballistic!!!
Proposed new law:
Any driver who does not know the total height of his vehicle plus the load should not be on the road. Prior to taking off onto the highway, all drivers must logged the total height. Failure to do so must result in an immediate fine of $3,000.00 to the driver VIA random highway inspections.
A crash involving a truck with the over or under pass must result in immediate suspension of the entire fleet for one month or longer. This is to be accompanied by a mandatory 24 hour training of all drivers with the firm.
All personnel associated with the firm shall be prohibited from owning or affiliation with trucking operations in Canada for a period of five years.
Yes, Why do we also build to the bare minimum? Single lane everywhere, Minimum hight overpasses... Why?
This province needs to learn it can think ahead rather than playing catchup 24/7
I agree 100%
No matter what it is.. Roads, schools, hospitals. There's no forward thinking when it comes to infrastructure. Governments on all levels should be held accountable.
BC wasn't built yesterday! That's why there's permits and routing!
"we had extensive training and safety protocols"
Yeah, "had"...Past tense...I know companies end up hiring bad drivers now and again and it's not the company's fault, but this many times? I'm sensing cheapskatery shenanigans here...
And the company is owned by which mosque???
Dont bend the curriculum. This is the result.
Wagons pulled with camels are never that tall.
You would be correct. It used to be truck drivers were one of the safest on the road but that has been going down for the last 20 or so years.
All you need to do is look at who is taking over the trucking industry in Canada … enough said
Hopefully the bridge fixes go smoother than the 2015-2016 Lake Nipigon bridge experience. For a short time the Trans Canada road network was cut into two separate networks.
It seems simple to me, how about you train the lorry drivers adequately. Weak hiring processes and low quality drivers. Surely every driver should know the height of his load etc.
Chohan freight?nuff said!like she said a lack of common sense
So you want us to raise all of our over passes so you can be lazy!?
Gov blames the company, company blames the drivers, drivers blame the gov
Driver pays up because he is the one that hit the bridge.
I’m not your buddy, guy!
Maybe its the system in which under qualified drivers somehow get their qualifications, even their licenses.....
The company should know the route, the height of the freight and the bridges on the route. It’s not the fault of the driver alone here.
Right but it is driver duty to follow everything.
@@mja532 yes the driver can read the height on the bridge but how would you know the exact height of the load without the despatcher giving you the proper bill of lading
Theres ypur problem the guy enforcing the rules with the turban hat.😂
Yup. And we all know what it is.
Immigration issue
Yeah, it points to the public diminishing what truck drivers do.
We are so eager to slap licenses into peoples hands no matter what the trade is, diminishing what they do.
Fast tracking licenses from truck drivers all the way up to doctors is not reasonable…
What is the desperation for getting so many immigrants into this country? What’s the rush?
Especially when our infrastructure is just not keeping up with the population explosion from India and China, and they sure like to help themselves to all those services!
Only way to make money in the industry is to cut corners. Thats why there is no drivers anymore and we have to import them. Unless youre pulling tankers or hauling equipment in the patch, you may aswell be driving a forklift. Lol
Canada never used to have these issues.
I have a question for Gagan. How many truck drivers of the brown persuasion actually have a real license?
Immigration
I wouldn't say it points to a bigger isue, but it leads to other possible causes. For instance, a similar incident happened to my cousin, Billy, however his scenario was unavoidable. At the very moment he was heading trough an overpass a homeless fellow became disloded from his perch under the bridge and rolled down the embankment and underneath the wheels of his vehicle. The resulting difference in height caused him to strike the bridge through no fault of his own. There was some significant damage done to the bridge, but the homeless lad was damaged beyond repair. It was later deteremined that the homeless man was from Ontario.
Here’s an idea, how about a clearance height bar, like those you see at some drive throughs, 1000ft before any overpass that needs it.
If they’re going to hit the overpass anyways. It’s better if they hit some plastic tubing.
How about doing your job and knowing what you're loaded with. Read your permits and routing! Your type is the reason we need all the safety crap we have today!
@@Bokug1 my type? lol. You must be so smart and tough. That safety stuff?? I bet you think seatbelts and airbags are for wimps too.
I guess no one in your world ever has a lapse of judgement.
@ShutterMAX What does reading permits and knowing your routing have anything to do with being a tough guy? If you're talking about all the safety crap, we do have to protect stupid people today. I have all my digits and extremities. it's called situational awareness. I've been driving 28 years. I have no accidents (three speeding tickets, including personal vehicles). I guess I'm a tough guy, or I just take my professional career seriously.
FYI... no one is perfect. I had to back up three blocks in Chicago. Thank God it was early in the morning, 2:30 a.m. I didn't hit the bridge because I can read signs!
As a driver aren't you supposed to know your clearance and weight of the vehicle your driving??
I see a pattern of drivers. 😂
Until we have a real justice system handing out real penalties that hurt like hell and cost the company double the repair bill, we will all continue to be made a fool of and be put at risk by idiots on both sides.
Biggest issue in BC is a lot of the local business and managerial class cut corners to increase profits. Everyone who has worked any job in the lower mainland can tell you that many things aren't done by the book. This is especially true in construction, and even more especially true in the transportation segment of construction. What used to be a job that would pay more than a living wage has become a race to the bottom that decent operators have to fight against minimum wage foreign labor with questionable skills and documents. More so, many trucking companies are so dead set on speed and throughput that they forgo regular maintenance and safety checks on vehicles. Every week I see a broken down truck on the side of the highway, and almost every day I see operators doing stupid things on the road. Anyone who has worked in construction can tell you a story of absolutely crazy nonsense pulled by truck operators.
getting your class 1 license from a cousin 😂 what do you expect
I have worked in civil construction for 30 years, and in the beginning, there was alot of miss communication due to the language barrier......fast forward 30 years and it's still the same thing.
well its 70/30 driver/company... if you companies give the key to a truck to any of these carpetflyers .. no wonder
Once again citizens got to pay for mistakes Of others.. Any foreign truck drivers should have to go an actual real test. Not with people beside them who speak their language
What's the background of the driver? How long has he been a 'canadian'?
Most truck drivers are foreigners that do not have experience on our highways. They also don’t care and can be paid off to sabotage companies too. Who benefits the most from this company closing?
Everybody except our woke fing government knows what the problem is!
All the student driver reviews on Big Rig Driving School claim they passed their road test on the first attempt. There's the problem right there!
Flip flop mafia
There shouldnt be overpasses where its possible, idk its like putting crossing arms on a train crossing, yea its there fault for not measuring the hight but like they shouldnt have to deal with that in the first place, need to build it right in the first place
And this is the exact problem guy doesn't know the difference between their, there and they're! @Tuco-uw9jk
go try five it a shot@Tuco-uw9jk
@Tuco-uw9jk fixed it for ya ;)
It definitely does for some people , i remember in the 80s you would see RCMP cruisers every 5kms between Chilliwack and Vancouver, they even had Camaros and Mustangs in RCMP livery, now they barely leave the station due to huge budget constraints
Lower taxes and this is what you get.
ooo so close. So close to the truth but is just escapes you. Try again.
In 1999, there was a coroner's inquest after 2 high profile multiple fatality runaways...Horseshoe Bay Ferry Terminal and Kamloops.The coroner's findings resulted in a huge hiring spree of safety officers to staff the weigh scales/inspection stations 24/7. That made a huge difference in a positive way to a safer transportation sector in BC. Now, 20+ years later, staffing levels at the inspection stations are down, hours of operation are down, drivers wages are down, driver safety and professionalism are down. Meanwhile, the BC government fired experienced CVSE safety officers for non compliance with the provinces coof mandate...becuase safety or something. There are thousands of qualified professionals in BC that were fired and never rehired in the last few years. Doctors, nurses, safety officers, patrol officers, social workers, prison guards, scientists, etc. Guaranteed, their coof mandates have done more damage than good, this is just another example. The lifestyle and services in BC are getting worse by the day. The government here is either incompetent or evil.
The issue is these Hindu trucking companies hiring substandard and incompetent drivers and not maintaining their fleet. This is how they undercut their competition when providing quotes.
Build taller Bridges. Bridge lives matter.
Everyday Traffic is already bad enough for BC, and this kind of negligence makes even worsen things, including the economy .
Well duh! A complete lack of awareness from the drivers.
Lack of comprehensive training?? Ahh try lack of comprehension. The action or capability of understanding something. Don't understand English. Don't understand rules. Don't understand patience. I see this EVERYDAY!! Forget going after insurance, fine the driver 500 grand and no license until its paid. It was HIS responsibility, not just the company to know. He was the one who loaded it. He was the one who should have measured its height. And he was the one who put the truck in gear and drove off.
All truck drivers in Canada are encouraged to play a game or 2 of Limbo, on sandy beaches is recommended. Problem eased. YW
How about not giving class 1 licenses out like they are candy! I've been driving for 28 yrs now, and the drivers are terrible today. It used to be 85% good drivers on the road, and it is now flipped to 85% if not more bad drivers. We dont have a driver shortage. We have a retention shortage. Good drivers are underpaid because companies hire poor drivers for less money and play the odds. My personal belief is that automatic trucks have made it easy to get a license. You shouldn't be allowed to do a road test with an automatic and shouldn't be allowed to use one until you have 5 years of experience. It should be a reward if you choose one, not an easy way into the profession! I also think companies should pay for drivers' actions and be accountable for the hires they make. It's easy to fire someone and just hire a new poorly trained driver and not be accountable!
A few years ago BC sent out a chain up survey. It was in English/french & Punjab!
Well, that tells you that there is a problem….. I can tell you now, an oversize permit in BC isn’t issued in Punjab. Nor should it be. Also the permit office does make mistakes. You need to know what you’re doing and use your eyes.