The Ultimate Z32 300ZX Upgrade? Is a 2JZ Swap Worth It in 2024? |VG30 Strength's and Weaknesses
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- In the world of automotive modifications, engine swaps have always been a hot topic of discussion, with enthusiasts constantly seeking the perfect combination of power and performance. In this thought-provoking video, we delve into the age-old debate of whether the iconic 2JZ engine, is a worthy choice for upgrading the Nissan Z32 300ZX.
Throughout the video, we explore the technical aspects of both engines, discussing their respective power outputs, torque characteristics, and aftermarket support. We also delve into the challenges and considerations associated with performing an engine swap, including compatibility issues, and the potential impact on the vehicle's overall balance and handling dynamics.
Furthermore, we take into account the practicality and cost-effectiveness of such a swap in the year 2023, considering the availability and affordability of both engines, as well as the current trends in the automotive aftermarket community. Whether you're a die-hard 300ZX fan, a Supra aficionado, or simply an automotive enthusiast with a passion for performance upgrades, this video aims to provide you with the knowledge and insights needed to make an informed decision.
So, if you've ever wondered whether it's worth swapping a 2JZ engine into a Z32 300ZX, or if the VG engine's inherent strengths still hold up in the modern era, this video is a must-watch. Join us as we dissect the pros and cons, evaluate the practicality, and explore the potential of combining these two iconic powerhouses, all while shedding light on the automotive tuning scene in 2023.
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You mentioned JWT, Mazworx, and Brett Dempsey Engineering (first to develop bed plate); kudos to you. People forget about Jim Wolf Technology and their long history with Nissans (starting with the VG and the SR).
I See a LOT of information out there on the 2JZ, but I just had to get this information out there as a comparison, since these motors are SO HEAVILY slept on in comparison to other engines from that era.
Finishing my 2jz swap, if I could do it again. I would have stuck with the vg. Stock cams are better than the 2jz 700whp easy. Had to upgrade cams
Great video on this topic. And finally someone who appreciates the VG30DETT. ❤️
Thanks, I do what I can.
love the outlook you have on the vg and your commentary about the condition of most project cars. gives me more drive to finish my build, Keep up the great content!
Thanks bud! Really appreciate it! Imma keep at it!
I wish I would have seen this video before I did my 2JZ swap.
Props to this dude as he put a lot of thought into this. Very informative and straight to the point. Now , can I send you my Z32 and $5000 to do everything you just said ?? :) Great job dude.
I have a 88 Pathfinder 170k miles with the grandpa VG30i. It was not cared for before I got it. I bought it in an emergency I work in the forest on top of a mountain and my 97 suburban broke its np249 with a week to get another. When I got it back together I sold it and kept the pathfinder. It just works hard.
I have a 97 pathfinder with the VG33, and my brother has a 95 with the VG30E, and both of them are work horses for sure. both have never in the time of ownership let us down, compared to an 08 armada and 05 superduty we own. Not the most power in the world, but they are super strong engines
Keep it Nissan🤘 I’m putting an RB in mine ❤
My nightmare 96 N/A just got smoked by a SS camaro. Im really thinkin of swapping out the snail. But i love the sound of it doe, with the headers installed.
I appreciate all the Z32 info! Proud owner of a 530 hp 90tt. I want to make my motor more reliable due to the labors it comes with owning a tt Z.
Thanks! This is the way.
Excellent content Billy, definitely information that is rarely discussed/mentioned on most social media outlets. Looking forward to more updates on the project.
Thank you! I appreciate it🙂
Great informative video
Have started a similar build.
Unfortunately no aftermarket support here in Australia. But thanks for info on US suppliers.
That's awesome! I'm excited to see more z32's come out of the woodwork with all the new parts on the market! You gotta get your fellow Aussie's off of those rb26's and into more VG'S😃
Yeah
Very few VG builds here in OZ
Mostly LS swaps .
Great video Billy. I am an Aussie doing a VG build right now and bits are hard to get. I have been fortunate enough to get hold of a Polar Engineering top feed fuel rail. No need for mains caps on mine but another US developer who's known well here in Australia is Engineered Performance Racing from Texas. As far as after market stuff goes you guys over there are so lucky.
Thank you! That's what I keep hearing over there, I would imagine because most people lean to the GTR and rb's since they're more common down there. I use to like engineered performance as well at first but I personally tend to trust these other companies a little more.
@@Billy_Built It took me three months to get mine booked into a workshop who were wiling to take it on. Most workshops here are frightened of the VGDE. I ended up buying a fully built forged engine. ConceptZ are on my speed dial. Waiting for the GTX2867's to arrive from them now.
@@DavidGreening CZP is good people! It's pretty much the same thing here. You have to know somebody who specializes them. I learned to do all of my own work, so fortunately I don't have to worry about that.. I just have to worry about doing the work all by myself 😅
@banggz32 yup, CZP are awesome.
Looking forward to a VG vs RB video!
Great video Billy! So, what about 800 RWHP? Which would be cheaper and would the VG be reliable?
800 would pretty much be the same results as 650. Guys are making 800+ through a completely stock motor. Although not necessarily recommended to do so. 😅 The playing field may level out once you get closer to 1,000whp+ in my opinion.
@@Billy_Built thanks Billy. Btw, if I ever move outta Texas, it would be to Tampa. Can’t wait to visit friends there on my next trip
Many may not know that this engine was even used at LeMans and that the Vr engine of the GTR is itself an evolution of this one
What's your opinion on the various deletes and bypasses
Do them all. Simplify your life. Treat it with the mindset of any other motor.
@@Billy_Built I don't have a lot of experience with other motors, just this monster haha
I have a 94 NA, recently picked up as my first Z. From what I can tell, engine is stock. There are few mods like cold air intake, upgraded radiator, Stillen catback. I love the car but damn its slow (i knew this as its not a TT). My 2022 Accord 2.0T Sport smokes it all day. How can I get some juice on of the Z without breaking the bank and going TT route? Your input will be much appreciated
@@damian_the_mando_apprentice Turbo the Na. @merlin machining makes a single kit for a good price. Or You could probably piece together the OEM twin turbo parts for less than 2k.
Dude i cannot agree more. Now if you have an NA 300zx i can understand why people would swap it with an LS, 2jz, or even an RB26. But its pretty stupid swapping out the VG30DETT because thats what makes it the "300ZX Twin Turbo".
Even with the NA motor. You can make just as much power with one. Very close to it anyway. Swap parts alone will put you in the hole farther than boosting a NA z32.
Wow Bill very informative
Go finish your race car.
What about oiling ? Mine one shows around 10 psi at idle. Sometimes 9, this is my first z so I don't really know if that's normal! 😅.
Thanks for the info anyways
I just purchased a 94 na 300zx. I want to do intake, exhaust, tt piston swap, tomei camshafts, injectors, ecu
For an NA. I'd recommend just buying all the Twin turbo swap parts and just bolting it to the existing NA motor. The NA will run fine with turbos and they love E85.
My NA VG30DE is about to give out
I’m wondering if I should try to do a NA/TT Frankenstein
Or rebuild the NA with upgraded internals and get it dyno
Or should I just save up for a VG30DETT z32?
Just trying get something reliable but fun with at least 250Hp
just do NA/TT and run E85 if available.
i get 2jz for 95 bucks then 300 for rods 100 for gasket kits 100 for bearings. this is what i do
Well, my dad gave me this car, and well it’s got no engine… so I’ve been trying to find SOMETHING I can just put in it because I don’t have time to build one but I have limited knowledge on it. So this is nice
Neither, like any proper southern gentleman I would keep it in the family and do an RB30 twin turbo ultimate response build!
If you have a healthy budget 2jz all the way it's proven big power and reliability
Die hard Nissan guys don't put a toyota engine in their Nissan. Its ridiculous to me. Like Nissan doesn't have great engines. If you want a 2J then you like Toyota and NOT nissan. People do what they think other people like and just do what everyone else does. No one is original. Im just generally speaking.
Whats your opinion on the vg na to a tt sawp ?
I think they're great. Especially if you have access to E85. Would love to do a small turbo, NA compression build one day myself.
BUD CAN YOU COMMUNICATE WITH ME ABOUT THE HALTECH TUN Ing im lost and only tuner i could find had my fuel maps at like wide open throttle at like 13:1 maybe was 12:8 :1 i have to look anyway detonated had buy another motor and had 15 surgeries and car been sitting in garage for 7yrs
Why not just swap an Audi 2.7t into the Z32. Lot better and far cheaper than the VG30DETT
Definitely not cheaper than a vg30.. not for me anyway.
@@Billy_Built Most of the 2.7ts can be had for $500, swap some ebay k04s on and flash a tune and you can make over 400whp. I guess the most expensive part because its going into another car would be the mounting and transmission choice. The few VG30dett I've seen range from $1500 to $3000
Billyyyyyyy
@@MiguelReyes-jg1de so nice of you to grace this channel with your presence🙏
If ya gotta change motors live it is japanese and one bad azz motor, 2jz is a freaking beast when modded right and hate tonsaybit but that puppy lasts longer at 700hp than most motors at 300 lol. Toyota over engineered that bad boy big time seen 1000hp on stock bottom end
No reason for a 2j which is just as good as a VG30.
And then it blows up two weeks later
ALSO THIS CHINA MADE TURBOS AND CHEAP SHIT LIKE I SAID I HAVE ALL PARTS YOU MENTIONED NOT TURBS. AND IN $20K IN IT
Yeah it's cool... BUT 2JZ THE WORLD! 🤣
I have Kalvin Malli restoring my 300zx. He is out of Seguin Tx MALLIMOTORWORKS! Big shout out to him he almost got me to go 2jz but I came across a deal on a built Vg30dett I couldn’t pass up. Dude is a perfectionist and does phenomenal work. I went with a mild street build so hoping to be around 500whp
500hp should be easy on a stock VG30. Never met the guy, but I do follow his content and really appreciate his work. You're gonna have an awesome, fun street car when it's done!
@@Billy_Built it’s got 615cc injectors z1 555r turbos, all the piping and intercoolers, forged wiesco pistons, test pipes, hi flow cats but ran out of money before I could get a haltec so just a z1 chip for now
@@leesparks4813 I know it's maybe after the fact but NIStune makes more sense on the stock ECU than just a flashed eprom. Go Haltech if you can but the stock ECU is 100 times better with it being fully programmable on NIStune which can also enable you to run flex fuel and add features such as launch control.