How to Cut Best SFIC Keys on a Framon 2 Key Machine
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- NOTE re: "narrow side of vise" starting at 8:10 - I found after making this viedo that leaving the "wide" (normal) side of the BOTTOM of the vise in place and only rotating the TOP side to "narrow" worked better (and no, did not have any danger of the wheel cutting into the vise). When I rotated both the top and bottom, as suggested in the video, I found that on deep cuts the key would start to come out of the vise and tilt downward. This contradicts what I said in the video but it was such a long video I couldn't bear to go back and re-record the whole thing.
I know the camera angle and my arm didn't show the insertion of the spacing clip between the vise jaws and I'm sorry about that but I don't really have a rotating camera arm or professional setup, or the time to really get into video editing, but hopefully my explanation and demonstration with my hands was enough to get the idea across.
If you bought the SFIC vise for Framon 2 machines (F2SH050) and saw in the instructions (www.framon.com...) that the spacing measurements are different (with each cut's position pushed out toward the tip by 0.162"), here are the recalculated spacing measurements:
Position: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7
6-pin: 0.412 0.562 0.712 0.862 1.012 1.162
7-pin: 0.262 0.412 0.562 0.712 0.862 1.012 1.162
LINKS:
Framon 2 Manual "How to Use the Spacing Clip" section on pg 10 - www.framon.com...
Framon F2MS552 Spacing clip - bluedogkeys.co... (comes with Framon 2)
Framon FC9054 Cutting wheel for Interchangeable Cores - bluedogkeys.co... (optional, saves time by eliminating need to widen cuts)
Framon F2SH050 Framon vise for Best IC - bluedogkeys.co... (optional, holds SFIC keys better)
Framon FC9090 Cutting wheel for Kwikset - bluedogkeys.co... (not relevant for this video but was mentioned)
Framon FC8445 Standard cutting wheel - bluedogkeys.co... (comes with Framon 2)
love to see more of the Framon in other keys that you do.
I love the absurdly detailed rambling!seriously this was incredibly helpful thank you so much!
Thank you so much, I’m glad it was helpful ❤🙏 I’m hoping to post one about mounting a lock box in concrete/brick, and a couple about tubular keys, soon 😊
Nice Video! Thanks! I have the sfic vice and wheel. Current challenge is certain keyways. K and lesser extent M the key blades tilt at an angle in the vice. Just now experimenting with “shimming” the back with a 2.5mm Allen wrench. Having the sfic vice does solve a couple of the problems you ran into. Also Have a HPC punch which i plan to make my primary sfic cutter. It currently has a drifting problem on the depths. Need to have a call with the techs to figure out what I am doing wrong. In videos I see them holding the spacing wheel when cutting, but any attempts to do that with the depth doesn’t stop it from dropping several thousand. Of course it is never consistent so can’t adjust for it.
Thank you for watching and commenting! I went with the Framon over HPC due to the tight tolerances but would love to hear if you can make the HPC punch work reliably (or even get the HPC techs on a call ;)
My Framon SFIC vise just came in yesterday. I could have included it in the video but didn’t want to assume people would want to go out and buy something else, plus I haven’t even used it myself. Still have to create my adjusted spacing table for that vise, cut a test key, etc.
If I do use the new vise successfully I might just post the adjusted spacing info here as a pinned comment rather than making a whole new video.
Thanks again 😊🙏
I’m kinda in middle of doing a vid on this as well thankfully Chirael gave me some stuff to consider. I have the Framon 2 jaws but have never used them. Think I’m gonna leave either one of my HPC punches or a Framon 2 dedicated just to cutting A2 stuff.
I haven't tried to use my Framon 2 to cut any Best keys (have a Best punch right next to it), but I have thought about it to check accuracy and to help calibrate the punch. What I don't understand is why they tell you to use the narrow side. Does it change the depth of cut or something? There's no risk of the cutter accidentally hitting the vise, and you get less grip on the key blank.