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I'll NEVER DO FREELANCE PHOTOGRAPHY - Here's Why || The Landscape Photography Journals S2E3
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- Опубликовано: 21 янв 2019
- In this video I discuss why I'll never do freelance photography, as well as other business models that can be much more effective in building a long term brand.
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Dave I've always found your ideologies and philosophies to be quite refreshing, especially when you see how many business pursue various routes including the reliance of social media on a broad scale. Having subscribed to your downloadable series last year, I would state your desire to develop and share knowledge was in abundance and enjoyed the series very much. Certainly stopped me dead in my tracks and got me to rethink and redesign my approach. This to me makes you channel and your website one of the best out there
Thanks buddy! Social media fads always change. It may take 5-10 years before we see the harsh downside that many businesses will face. More videos coming out in that line of thinking:)
100% agree
-- Being retired from the corporate rat-race and now a photo hobbyist etc, I enjoy hearing about your philosophy on life, and about your minimalist lifestyle. I find your videos very interesting and informative. Although I won't be starting a photo business, I do find your thoughts on the subject worth listening to. You and I have much in common; I'm just much further down the trail that's all. Thank you for sharing all of your quality tips and information with us. Take care ,,,,
That's awesome Pete. Thanks for letting me know buddy:) Most of the things I know in life were learned from those further down the trail. You're welcome.
Dave
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My Complete Camera / Shooting Technique Playlist: ruclips.net/p/PL5MgfX7Ym7At_Q0eWRIzjI7utn3mjQsxF
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Dave
Dave, thank you for sharing your thoughts - I appreciate your focus (no pun intended) and dedication. Your willingness to share openly from your experiences is greatly appreciated. And, I am totally impressed with your ability to carry on a coherent conversation while dealing with the rigors of trail life. Safe travels - Cheers!
Hello Dave, it's good to have you back doing videos again. I'm sixty years old and I've been hiking and backpacking since I was eleven. I often go on serious hikes, 15, 18, 20 miles. I usually go alone because when I hike with other people they get tired too easily. When they get winded, I always tell them they are talking too much; it disrupts your breathing rhythm I say to them. So, how in the #&@$ did you walk and talk for fifteen minutes, climbing over blow-downs, slogging through marshes, and getting whacked by bushes!!?
Anyway, back to photography. I ran across your RUclips videos about a year ago, so I went to your website and purchased your course. It is not an overstatement to say it was life changing. I'm not a pro photographer, just a passionate hobbyist. I first learned photography back in the 1970's using film. I continued on and off until about five years ago when I really got the passion. The problem was editing. Photoshop had me completely intimidated. I learned to use Lightroom on my own but could not advance past that. Until your course. The way you structured the course in phases with each new edit reinforcing the previous skills and adding new techniques building on that foundation was perfect. I've been a high school teacher for thirty-one years and I know that is the proper way to teach. Additionally, the way you dove into highly technical concepts worked. You introduced the concept but allowed me to research your technical papers at my leisure. Meanwhile the course just stayed focused on PS techniques, clearly and methodically explained and demonstrated. June 2020, I retire after 32 years teaching. Because of your videos and your course, it's going to be all hiking and photography until I can no longer do either. Thank you for that.
Also, your mini-tutorials on RUclips are great. There is only a thing or two I might suggest. While watching a video (focus stacking, hyper-focal distance, exposure blending, etc.) I'm always waiting to see your finished image. Please consider ending with a finished image. One other suggestion; how about a few start to finish videos. Include the journey to the location, how you prepare for a shoot, the techniques used for that image, then the editing process, and finally the finished image. I would pay for that. (But free is cool too).
Looking forward to your next video. Thanks, for what you do. Michael
Hey Michael. I do endurance training year round for climbing and backpacking. This is my bible, Training for the New Alpinism: A Manual for the Climber as Athlete. You may enjoy the book! Those hike ranges are reallly good!
Number one rule of endurance training. During 90% of the training, routines you should be able to hold a conversation, without being out of breath, but at the top limit of this. If you're running or hiking too fast, you'll know because you won't be able to hold a conversation. The goal is to work this base up over time. Not hard fast workouts, but long slow ones each day. Time on feet is more important than how hard you can go. There will be times when you're pushing yourself, but those are the reserves done in the remaining 10% of the training.
I'm really glad you enjoyed the course!
The project I'm working on now, will follow me throughout the entire image creation process, through an entire trip, and post trip image selection and photo editing. This project will have multiple trips, where you can follow me through multiple eco systems and learn the process. It will be out in the next month or two:)
Enjoy the day,
Dave
I can not express enough that this channel is pure gold!!! The amount of knowledge and wisdom that you share Dave is amazing I appreciate it. And you are a beast on the trail the pace you keep with a load on your back while talking and taking video made me chuckle! excellent video thanks again.
I love your thought process, and man, doing the whole video while trekking through swamp - that's crazy cool! As a retired person I sure have no interest in working for someone else again! Forward march!
I just found your channel and wanted to tell you you have all my respect!! I think you're doing it all right, choosing your own path without making compromises for advertisers, clients or social media conventions. I've only seen a few of your videos, but you come across as absolutely authentic and honest. What a refreshing voice to see on the internet.
Thanks so much:) I'll have some new vids along these lines coming out soon. Also write more about it here: davemorrow.blog/ Take care,
Dave
Dave, this video was not applicable to my situation, I am retired and don't plan on working ever again. However, I always enjoy your insights and like to hear how you are doing. Keep it coming. I missed the cut where your buddy got back in front of you, good job. Smooooooth.
Hello Dave, Thank you for sharing such life lessons that we are working hard and chasing for money but not to be independent and free spirits like you. I believed that everyone who is watching your videos will appreciate how much love, and affection you put into your works. I love it.
Greatest Photography Video's on the net. And I am retired Pro Photographer/Director from NYC no happy snaps here.
Free Lance Sucks unless you are getting 3K for a day rate and then usage rates plus all expenses. If not got pound some nails.
I like that you ignored the log..... walked straight through swamp.. hardened bush man
Logs are slippery, swamps usually solid haha!
Just catching up to this video. Man, I echo all the great sentiments people have said above (or below). That fire clip at the end was such a perfect ending to this video. Calm, relaxing and peaceful. Can't wait for this next weeks episode.
Thanks Paul! I'm really glad you liked it. Enjoy the week buddy.
Dead on. I'm an "entrepreneur". Restaurants. Fortunately I've got a great team in place that allows me to pursue my passion of landscape photography. A man can only get so passionate about sandwiches despite the fact that they've turned out to be a great means to an end. Appreciate your channel, brother and enjoyed the breakdown of your thought process even on the business side.
Thanks Jake. Glad you enjoyed the vid & that your business is doing well:)
Videos and talks like this are so refreshing and needed in todays culture. Our values are very similar. Always a pleasure to learn from ya. Keep livin the dream!!
very candid and eye-opening discussion. Thank you for this as it has forced me to internalize your talking points and dial in on which path is most in line with what I value. Keep doing your thing. Much respect.
Welcome back Dave.Since i have been watching your video series and live close to the GSMNP i have been doing alot more hiking and photography and really satisfied with the results i learned from your channel.I don't know if i have a technique yet but i am happy.Thanks again
thats awesome Ron! love to hear it
Totally agree. I had a career in software engineering, but for the last decade I've been focusing more on creating (theatre, photography, music, film). I've decided recently to pursue those passions as my next career path. Your videos are informative and encouraging. Thanks!
Good luck on the new path. It will be good:)
Dave really enjoy hearing the clarity of thought on your plan. The beauty of it is the plan can be applied to many different situations.
awesome - great job in particular telling your audience how this is a recommendation that worked for your life and may not work for theirs. etc etc. humble dude. much respect.
Dave, I find it truly inspiring and comforting to know that this business model is working out for you. I must admit, having followed your endeavors for many years now, there have been some shockers, like when you completely quit all social media, and when you began talking about not just photography itself, but sharing (giving away, I feared) the "secrets" of your actual business strategy. Especially since you go off into the wilderness for 9 months at a time, right around month #7-8 I start worrying that you might have shut down the business and gone back to your day job. I suppose it is partly due to my own fears about taking my own leap of faith into a similar business model, admittedly. I keep telling myself it can't possibly work, because my C.O.L. is significantly higher, as someone who is much more tied down to a life in suburbia.
However, every time I watch your new videos, (and re-watch your old videos!) I get inspired again, to keep going. So, thanks, and I wish you the best of luck in this. (And since you're not on social media, the best way I can thank you is to share these amazing videos on Facebook etc. I hope it helps!)
Thanks buddy. I'd be homeless, and live on the trail or do anything before returning to a day job. It was impossible for me to know how soul sucking it was prior to leaving. I love doing this shit and it will 100% work for you if you put in the long term game and effort. Grit and hard work is the one place you can always win, longterm. Good luck.
Dave
Dave Morrow well said my dude.
Dave - Awesome! Being honest and keeping the long term in mind as opposed to to chasing instant gratification through sensation as is the trend. I am humbled - you are an inspiration and have insights that I too intend to apply to my nature photography journey!
Instant gratification through sensation is a great way of putting it. I like that! You're welcome Neil.
Lots of valuable info here for people starting out. Especially right now for how many fake dreams are sold using RUclips (drop shipping, FBA, etc.) Everyone wants to stay home and make money, but a very small percentage want to put in the work before getting returns.
p.s. out of all the times walking through this forest, never thought of having this discussion there. Makes you wonder if the forest could talk, what stories could they gossip about?
Great hanging out with you man! Let's do it again soon. Walking is the time that I have the most ideas and energy is flowing, so it always seems to work well for getting videos recorded. Sitting in front of a camera just talking also feels strange;) See ya on the next trip!
Everyone has to engineer their lives according to what makes a person happy, to balance life and joy. Once the survival aspect is taken care, then the joy of living begins. Also while crafting the survival plan a person can find joy of living within its activity.
Great to see you back Dave!
Good info, Dave. Thanks. You're smart enough to produce products and content that's worth something and that's meaningful to you, so there's little question as to why you've been successful. Thanks for these very informative videos.
Great advice! And love all the old man's beard in the forest, beautiful landscape.
Love these videos - really interesting too hear your take on things. Thanks!
Thanks Simon. Really glad to hear that!
Very much enjoyed the hike through the (I think) low lying regions of the Olympic Peninsula. Nice strategic analysis of two ways of making a living as an expert. If you are an expert whose knowledge base is pretty well defined and well known to a number of people, selling your time can make sense as you point out. But if you are constantly adding new knowledge, your model works very well. Especially if you are willing to trade dollars for freedom, which given taxes and the expense of a "upper income life style," make a lot of sense....
Hey Bill. Maybe, but I never give locations due to the environmental impact that the internet can have on them, with mass visits.
It's great to hear you agree because you know alot more about business than me:)
Love what you have to say in this video but man, that guy behind you after you turned around at the river kept taking my attention. LOL.
Also i like that is for your helpful all...., i interesting to your photography technique. 👌👍Thank! Dave.
never said.... " um " or had any dead air, once.
You can train, UM, out of yourself:)
@@Globetrotter-1 Thank you.
Thanks. Great video and wish I would of thought of this years ago.
thank you those you do very useful for me and I learning a lot of things 🙏🙏
I agree with everything you said! I'm trying to do the same.
you are an inspiration.
Thanks Doc!
Thanks my dear to share important issue !
Interested in more of these. Half walked away from the corporate gig, still have their laptop if something comes up. But full time living in the airstream doing my country wide photo roadtrip. If you're willing to share, I'm curious what percent of income comes from print sales vs other streams.
0% print sales. I don't sell them.
Dave, Thanks for sharing your philosophy that you use to run your business and all your free content on your website. I’ve just received info on your advanced course and see it contains a section on luminosity masks. Your course says only LR,ACR, and PS are needed but I see you have TK actions on your computer. Will the TK actions be covered in this course or in a future course? Thanks.
Just sent you an email Chris:)
Thanks for your insights.
Dave truly short losses and cost for long term gains. I wish I would have recognized this years ago. Thanks
Yeah for sure. It's not the natural way to think that humans evolved with, actually the opposite. So hard to figure out:)
The first point about who owns the intellectual property is not quite true. In the US atleast the copyright belongs to the creator not the commissioner unless it's spelled out in the agreement. The commissioner is basically just an authorized user (unless the copyright is handed over in writing) of the work.
Okay, but As soon as I have to read a legal document that has the word commissioner in it, to make a living, I'm out. ;)
@@DaveMorrow Unless there's a grand in front of it. Being hired by the grand commissioner that sounds pretty good.
@@RamaSivamani I can't trust the grand commissioner to give me direction in life. Anything giving itself the title "grand" can't be trusted. Will stick to the non-freelance model haha:) Have a good one man. I'm just teasing you!
great video! thanks for sharing experience. i'm enterprise software developer and understand you very well. your feelings, motivation, ideas and goals. I saw your video when you talking about quitting from social media. did them help you when you just started you business? You need audience. At the beginning you have no audience at all. How did you broke that barrier?
You're welcome. 90% of my traffic in the beginning, as well as now, comes from search (google, bing, yahoo). You can checkout backlinko.com/ to learn more. He's the expert. His courses which are 2-3K are well worth the investment for learning this stuff at a really high level (the science of seo).
The remaining 10 comes from RUclips and before, I quit Facebook.
Quitting facebook, i saw a drop in 5% traffic, which was quickly gained back from using that free time building my website.
The time investment in social isn't worth it. There are too many other legit options for building long term traffic.
Hope that helps:)
Dave
Crazy question! May have already been answered. Do you carry a side arm? Just thinking about what the missing 411 dude says about being in the woods and back country!
no. A gun error / misfire is statistically way is more dangerous than any wildlife, including grizz.
@@DaveMorrow Thanks for the reply and insite into your thought process! Statistics and probability are often hidden to most as they couldn't possibly see the benefits of not having a weapon. People have to have something to feel empowered. Applied knowledge is POWER.
Thank you for the great vlog greeting from the not so sunny UK :)
You're welcome. I feel empowered by my ability to survive without a firearm in the wild. It's way too heavy. You become dependent on something that could mechanically fail, so it's a crutch. It's not necessary in a wilderness setting, if you know what you're doing. I'm not opposed to guns what so ever in an urban environment.
@@DaveMorrow :)A golf course after sunset is about as far into the wilderness as we can get here in the UK wild camping is mostly forbidden as are fire arms here . I should venture into your neck of the woods with a guide of course as am unfamiliar with local wildlife and customs would be an interesting experience am sure. I look forward to more of your work thank you once again !..
haha. The west of North and South America have some great wilderness. You would enjoy it:)
I like the way you think....!
Thanks Jason!
You are most welcome!
I love your photography and your philosophy. I got into photography through backpacking. That, along with your thought process, is what draws me to your videos. Your channel is quite inspiring.
@@jasonfazio6170 Backpacking is the one thing that never gets boring! That's great to hear. Glad I could be of some help.
I AM ALSO AN ENTRÉE PRENEUR.
Do you ever get inspired by other artists here on RUclips?
I don't watch RUclips:) I do love to make videos though.
Dave your definition of Freelance work, in this case photography, is not totally correct. You can work as a Freelance photographer without the client owning the rights to your work. In fact that is and should be totally controllable by the creator. It all depends on the contract that you offer to your client for the work that they are paying you to do. Within that contract the creator of the images, the photographer, stipulates what, if any rights that are being sold or licensed to the buyer, the client. I have done Freelance work for 40 plus years and I have always maintained my copyright while at the same time I have licensed the usage of my work to my clients. What you are describing would be more of a definition of those who are dong 'work-for-hire' contracts, wherein the client has ownership of your created product. I would never except or work under such a contract. Being the creator of the images, I am also the seller of those images therefore I would be the one generating the contract not the buyer.
Ok sounds good. Anything that has to do with "a contract" is not for me. Enjoy the day!
Dave Morrow, I hear you about contracts, don’t really care for them myself but they are a necessary evil. They protect both the seller and buyer.
I've never signed a contract, never will, and things are good to go. Almost everything is a personal choice. It just depends if the upsides outweigh the downsides. Have fun!