Please stop undermining your credibility by using a thumbnail showing a ship on fire. There is enough propaganda, misinformation and clickbait without the TImes Radio adding to the mix. Please do not sink to the standards of others, raise it and be the gold standard.
One thing they neglected to mention is that while it is indeed fairly potent once it goes off, ammonium nitrate requires quite a bit of persuasion to explode.
It's not a floating bomb. Fertilizer is not explosive. You can MAKE an explosive device using fertilizer. See, e.g., Timothy McVeigh. But this cargo isn't that. Meanwhile there are hundreds of shiploads of ammonium nitrate fertilizer sent all over the world each year with no explosions whatsoever. Hysterics like you are distasteful. As is this clickbait channel.
If they start soon they can tow it to St Petersburg before the winter ice blocks it's passage. Problem placed back in Russia's hands, though I suspect Israel would rather see it routed to Beirut
LOL the Russians scuttled as loose salvage A NUCLEAR SUBMARINE. WITH the reactor onboard. They don't care about this ship & they don't want it in their ports. She has a Lebanese owner & a Syrian management company. Both those Nations have zero pull in Moscow. They can't scuttle her, either, though that's what is probably going to happen. Lebanese people know how disappear a problem. They'll sail her to open, international waters with a nice deep bottom, open her seacocks & watch the problem solve itself. They don't care if anyone's watching, either. Try enforcing an international maritime Court decision in Lebanon. They'll laugh you right out of Beirut. That place has no laws.
Typical: pulling the dirtiest tricks out of the box. Allegedly an accident of a cargo ship off the British coast. Not an act of war... ...but again a disgusting move by a criminal regime...
It has been in Norwegian and Danish waters as well lately. Was rejected and was then heading towards Malta. It is pretty safe and a normal way to transport these goods
The blame for this ship being here lies yet again with the British Government who were warned not to get involved with matters that was of no concern to them!
If you want to know what happens when a ship full of Ammonium Nitrate goes boom, look up the 1947 Texas City disaster. It can be absolutely horrendous.
Texas 1947 explosion was from 2,300 tonnes of ammonium nitrate. This ship's cargo is nearly 10 times larger at 20,000 tonnes. That's double the 10kt Hiroshima blast!
1. It's transporting fertilizer for someone. 2. The load is a bit out of spec, so usually you'd put it on a field but I guess no one wants such a huge amount of it in their port, after Beirut. Although it's probably stored in the proper way. At least it's not old and thus more volatile. 3. It's a ship with fertilizer, like thousand others. It only broke a rule about the maximum load. Which actually isn't that uncommon in logistics. I once bought a canister of rubbing alcohol online. Can you believe they just slapped a label on it and sent it to me? No Package around it, like the law demands for 5 liters of flammable liquid. Bonus fact: ammonium nitrate is not classified as an explosive. You'd be challenged to actually light it on fire if I'd put like 100 grams of it on your desk. It can only explode when contained. Containment through it's own weight is possible in huge piles, that's one reason Beirut happened but doesn't happen every day. If you store it accordingly, it won't do that. I believe it's actually difficult to rig the load on a ship in a way that it will explode with certainty,
Because the UK doesn't want to draw attention to the fact that they just lost the war after admitting that they were the ones attacking Russia. Russia basically showed up at their door with a gun and gave them a letter full of pictures of them cheating on their wife with young boys. The UK has said it will stand down and not arm Ukraine with long range weapons.
@@TheYear2525 I suspect a decent dust explosion could set off the rest. But that would require the cargo hold having precisely the right amount of draft, sufficiently dry environment and a decent enough source of ignition to coincide. It's not impossible of course, but it's highly unlikely.
@static-audio you're right there,youtube is going down the pan rapidly,full of AI,lies, misinformation and fake news...not what it used to be.its close to the British press,,BULLS**T.
@static-audio - It says it is adrift off the Kent coast - it is also not adrift. What it says is "Ship packed with explosive Russian fertiliser adrift off Kent coast" It does NOT say it is on fire.
Chemical warfare? That stuff isn't even toxic. Also that stuff is shipped around the world in thousands of vessels and it's safe enough that they don't blow up left and right. It just happens so that, the Russians don't take the maximum allowed bulk size serious. To make it explode, it takes special circumstances. Ammonium nitrate isn't even classified as an explosive. Though it's kinda close to one. However, if you try to light a pile of it on your desk, not much will happen. I will fizzle in the flame but probably not even sustain a reaction aka you won't be able to light it on fire. And even if, for some very very weird reason this ship was rigged from Russia in a way it would explode, which would probably be actually difficult, then it's effectiveness would be far below that of nuke with similar yield. Because it doesn't detonate 1500 feet in the air. That makes the zone of destruction a dang lot smaller. It doesn't make any sense in this scenario either. So, no matter how you turn it, there is no reason to freak out. So far it's a normal ship, with a normal load (though not to spec) with some damaged systems.
@@TheYear2525why can't Russia simply follows the rules of maximum allowed bulk size? Its like an illegal drug dealer driving a full car without a driving licence! Russia of course aren't dumb but them seem to work on dumb luck.
@@TheYear2525Interesting how many places (including entire docks) have been destroyed by ammonium nitrate explosions. I watch channels like Plainly Difficult and Fascinating Horror. They cover disasters, man-made and natural.
@@sophierobinson2738 Yes and because you follow those channels (I actually know them, too) you have a bias, because those channels agglomerate tragic stuff, so that it seems the whole world is full of it. Everything can go catastrophic at times, and I'm not saying, that with ammonium nitrate it doesn't happen. Actually it happens relatively often in comparison to other goods, so you are right. But as I said, there is a huuuuge amount of that stuff carried through the whole world and those channels we watch would have to make one video a day about a new ammonium nitrate explosion to even get in the street that leads to the ballpark of it being a significant concern. Dust explosions, like from flour, are also known to level buildings and probably also docks. I imagine they happen way more often than ammonium nitrate explosions but the aftermath is not as extreme.
@@TheYear2525 Oh, yeah, USCSB covered the sugar factory explosion. Who would have figured sugar was an explosive. I learned about flour exploding through a Terry Pratchett Discworld book.
@@gandydancer9710, He's right though. The minimum size of a Russian tactical nuclear warhead is 5 kt (kilotons). This tub of bolts is packing ~twice the potential explosive power.
@@grahamhireme9283 will be if it gets close to the wreck of the Richard Montgomery. Quite a coincidence that it turns up off the Thames estuary after parking near various sensitive areas.
Because the UK is attacking Russia directly with long range missiles using Ukrainian draft soldiers and an installed dictator to attack Russia. So Russia just sailed next to the UK, told them to stop their attacks or get nuked, (which the UK did) and then departed, leaving a "gift".
At first I was wondering what kind of fertilizer they were talking about, because you can't just say "fertilizer" and insinuate it will go boom. Then the clarified that it's Ammonium nitrate and that is indeed the mos dangerous one. It even has a different fire safety classification than other nitrates. However, under normal circumstances it doesn't really explode if lit on fire. It needs to be forcefully contained for that. However² the weight of a huge mound of it can fulfill this containment, like it did in Beirut. It's also more likely to explode when it's sitting a long time, baking together. I assume for regular transport measures are taken to prevent this and that it was a different story in Beirut because there it was basically forgotten, stored in wrong ways ect. .
Nice to see a reply that does make sense, not dramatising a situation unnecessarily. 16 mill m.t. of this stuff is produced annually worldwide, much of it transported on bulk carriers like the Ruby. She has hull and propeller damages and is in no more danger of blowing up than any other ship carrying ammonium nitrate (or LNG, LPG, chemicals etc.)
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You're new to this right? The sanctions are still there. The ukrainians are still banned from leaving Ukraine and drafted to the Russian border. The UK is prepared to fight to the last Ukrainian. Russia just exposed the UKs incompetence and cowardice. It literally sailed through te channel. Surrounded by nato forces too scared to engage and it left a bomb. After telling the UK to stop firing long range weapons into Russia.
Worst case scenario this ship decides to float up the Thames to the Thames barrier , then somebody on-board ' accidentally ' discards a lit cigarette in the wrong place....bye bye barrier
you can put a blow torch to amonium nitrate ,,i have done that,,it just decomposes to laughter gas, and burns,, ,, i big volume and under the right wrong conditions, it can go boom,, but really look up YOY country or any you want, and see how much you use per year,, and then ask you selff how does it get to where it is used,, (agriculture) and have been driving behind a truck loaded with 16 ton of it ;o)
If the cargo didn't have a legal destination why was it loaded in the first place, how can it be looking for a port after departing where it was loaded?
Why is this ship not being mentioned on any BBC or ITV news programmes? If the government has put a "D" notice on it, how can Times Radio be showing it? I haven't seen it on any other news channels. Does it actually exist???
Offload some of the cargo, disperse it so that if the worst case scenario happens the damage won't be so bad (at least until the ship is repaired properly).
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As of 30 Sept, no port will allow the ship to dock for repairs, unless it's empty. The ship is anchored off Kent with a cracked hull, rudder and propeller damage.
FERTILIZER EXPLOSIONS HAVE CAUSED MANY DISASTERS! Freeport, Texas in the 1940’s, the town of West, Texas, the parking garage at the World Trade Center, Oklahoma City.
They have. So did flour explosions. I'm not sure, though, if your examples were exploding fertilizer, though. Sounds more like bombs where fertilizer was used as an oxygen donor in an explosive mix. Nitrate fertilizer on it's own doesn't burn or explode. The only exception is ammonium nitrate, that can explode in certain circumstances. It's not even classified as an explosive. If forcefully contained, like in a container of some sorts or even by it's own weight, if it's really a huge mound of it, it may explode. Measures are taken so that this doesn't usually happen. Else ships would blow up on a daily basis, because 45 million tons of it are produced every year and very much of that is probably transported on ships.
@@-jz5mm Thumbnail image used, not in the presentation. Title of presentation inaccurate. Rushed I hope instead of exaggerated just for effect. Slava Ukraine
It's a bit close to the SS Richard Montgomery. Now, if THAT goes up you can kiss goodbye to a good chunk of Sheerness. So the question has to be... is this Russian ship being used as a detonator to set off the SS Richard Montgomery?
What i don't understand is: If this ammonium nitrate this ship is carrying, if it's made wet so it can't catch fire 🔥 Wouldn't it be safe to get in to empty it 🤔 Well ques that would have been done if it works, or..!?? And if that's not a solution, why not get it further out on the sea and hit it with a missile - if it explodes and go up in the air, it shouldn't make any damage to the sea, or...!?
How close to the Channel tunnel is this ship floating? or has no one thought about that small detail, there's a lot more that passes along that tunnel than just passengers.
We have had at least 5 days to deal with it and nothing is happening - someone needs to make a decision to remove it or sink it - who is in charge???????
Fear. Fear. Worry and more Fear. Get a grip and DO something about it. That's why we elect politicians who present themselves as able to deal with international problems. Get on with it and spread some good news for a change
but not without something added to it ,o),,and they mix it while pouring it into the drilled holes ,, storage time = zerro and set of by booster charges
How far of the coast line is it anchored, could it be scuttled without it exploding or would it react to sea water? Or how big an explosion would it give if it was blown up? Could it not be discharged into smaller boats that would alleviate the problem? Or tow it out into the middle of the Atlantic then scuttle it!!
Is this going to be some kind of warning to us I wonder? I won’t be surprised if there is an “accident” on board that detonates it out at sea off the English coast.
The ship MV Ruby is flying a Malta flag, and was on it's way to Norway. Norway refused to let it dock because it was damaged. In this instance it has nothing to do with Russia, except that they own/produced/sold the vessel.
Right! Just like all those fishing trolleys russia sent out to "fish" in then 80´s and 90´s and never caught anything, it was just bad luck on their part ...
@@Lhawk2107 you can use vessel tracking apps to view the MV Ruby, it's route, it's current location, it's flag, it's destination and where it came from.
Destination Beruit. 1. It's a Lebanese registered ship. 2. They don't have any ammonium nitrate left in Beruit anymore. 3. There's not that much left of Beruit to blow up anyway. 3. Even if they do blow up what's left of Beruit, the someone (Ricky G says: ask Mel Gibson, we all know that he knows) would have done it sooner or later so it's more or less a win/win for town planning.
Is this ammonium Nitrate OR Ammonium Perchlorate. The latter shock sensitive and could be set off by a hidden primary explosive and possible a Trojan Horse.
Here’s a different spin on the many possibilities. In the river Medway there is also a an American ww2 ship full to the brim with explosives, it may also have a few pagers on board. It would be catastrophic if it was to explode on or near this old warship via a remote detonator.
There is a munitions ship The SS Richard Montgomery beached along the Thames Estuary in 1944 eventually sinking with 1,400 tonnes of explosive cargo on board. The explosives are unstable. If the Russian ship explodes near SS Richard Montgomery. The explosion would be catastrophic.
An accident close to our shores could be disastrous. The wisest course of action would be to see that an "accident" occurred while this ship is well offshore. I'm sure we have a few Ukrainian refuges with advanced PADI qualifications, who would be delighted to help out.
do you realize how many of that kind of loaded ships per year goes the same rute ,,if this really goes boom, there might be some broken windows ashore,,
The wreck of the SS Richard Montgomery thats holding a huge amount of munitions is about 30 miles away from the boat they are talking about. Don't let it get any closer.
A very poor report leaving more unanswered questions. If its cargo is so dangerous then it should be returned to its departure port.That port will have handling facilities.
Why show a picture of a ship with a fire on ,when it's not on fire?
click bait would be my guess. tut tut that Times Radio would do such
An example?
Sensationalism and fear.
Click Bait
Why not? This be youtube land. 🤣 Clicks dear boy, clicks.
The headline says it's adrift, the host says it is anchored. Huge difference.
Alarmism untethered to reality. Times Radio making the tabloids look sedate.
I agree, state the facts not alarmism as clickbait. The public expect better from the Free press.
@@chris5634C3PO Murdoch? The free press? What have you been smoking?
It's anchored to a 1000 km chain xD .
I think they are using the term ' adrift ' to mean that it has no destination and no plan. It is just floating around wherever.
Please stop undermining your credibility by using a thumbnail showing a ship on fire. There is enough propaganda, misinformation and clickbait without the TImes Radio adding to the mix.
Please do not sink to the standards of others, raise it and be the gold standard.
That's too late for times radio 😅
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Good Point.
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russian maintenance is a joke. More likely though is it’s deliberate to cause “an accident”.
Always assume mall Alice with Orcssia.
It's a Maltese vessel.
@@MephitisUKSyrian owner. russian cargo.
Ukraine missed out on a juicy target when it was sitting in a Russian port.
@@freetimeflip6438
Imagine what it could do to Ork trade... it would be out for years.
Should it not go back to where it came from 🤷🏼♂️
Needs to get there first though... which means getting to and then crossing the Mediterranean sea.
russian "fertiliser"...sure? It's a floating bomb.
Their threatening us with it . Tow it back to Russian waters . !! Sick of Russia.!!
Oops!! 😂😂
ridiculous comment
One thing they neglected to mention is that while it is indeed fairly potent once it goes off, ammonium nitrate requires quite a bit of persuasion to explode.
It's not a floating bomb.
Fertilizer is not explosive.
You can MAKE an explosive device using fertilizer. See, e.g., Timothy McVeigh. But this cargo isn't that.
Meanwhile there are hundreds of shiploads of ammonium nitrate fertilizer sent all over the world each year with no explosions whatsoever.
Hysterics like you are distasteful.
As is this clickbait channel.
Don’t let it bump into a wind turbine. We all know what happens if the ship hits the fan.
Lol. Love a good pun -. double pun.
If they start soon they can tow it to St Petersburg before the winter ice blocks it's passage.
Problem placed back in Russia's hands, though I suspect Israel would rather see it routed to Beirut
LOL the Russians scuttled as loose salvage A NUCLEAR SUBMARINE. WITH the reactor onboard.
They don't care about this ship & they don't want it in their ports. She has a Lebanese owner & a Syrian management company. Both those Nations have zero pull in Moscow.
They can't scuttle her, either, though that's what is probably going to happen. Lebanese people know how disappear a problem. They'll sail her to open, international waters with a nice deep bottom, open her seacocks & watch the problem solve itself.
They don't care if anyone's watching, either. Try enforcing an international maritime Court decision in Lebanon. They'll laugh you right out of Beirut. That place has no laws.
Through Øresund?
@@lisbethmllegaard8437 The quickest way - whatever that may be...
Sick of Russia.
Sick of Putin
Cant believe our Republican Govt always speaks so highly of him🙄
If you want to be, otherwise, you could educate yourself, bc plainly you've not done so yet
@@-jz5mm YOU do some research. Stop listening to Right-Wing Propaganda and see what the REST OF THE WORLD sees and knows.
@@-jz5mmsilence orc
@-jz5mm Well seeing as you think your so educated. Why shouldn't we dislike Pooh-tin-bear? At least give a educated viable reason.
Typical: pulling the dirtiest tricks out of the box. Allegedly an accident of a cargo ship off the British coast. Not an act of war... ...but again a disgusting move by a criminal regime...
More disgusting than a terrorist act by criminal regime in UK blowing pipelines?
Absolutely!
It has been in Norwegian and Danish waters as well lately. Was rejected and was then heading towards Malta.
It is pretty safe and a normal way to transport these goods
@@troelsersking2220not safe in huge quantities... that's why nobody wants the ship
The blame for this ship being here lies yet again with the British Government who were warned not to get involved with matters that was of no concern to them!
Tell them to try some Houthi port, or China.
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If you want to know what happens when a ship full of Ammonium Nitrate goes boom, look up the 1947 Texas City disaster. It can be absolutely horrendous.
Texas 1947 explosion was from 2,300 tonnes of ammonium nitrate. This ship's cargo is nearly 10 times larger at 20,000 tonnes. That's double the 10kt Hiroshima blast!
And Halifax in 1917.
1) Why is it there?
2) What is being done about it?
3) Will our government officially recognise this is a potential threat to the UK?
1. It's transporting fertilizer for someone.
2. The load is a bit out of spec, so usually you'd put it on a field but I guess no one wants such a huge amount of it in their port, after Beirut. Although it's probably stored in the proper way. At least it's not old and thus more volatile.
3. It's a ship with fertilizer, like thousand others. It only broke a rule about the maximum load. Which actually isn't that uncommon in logistics. I once bought a canister of rubbing alcohol online. Can you believe they just slapped a label on it and sent it to me? No Package around it, like the law demands for 5 liters of flammable liquid.
Bonus fact: ammonium nitrate is not classified as an explosive. You'd be challenged to actually light it on fire if I'd put like 100 grams of it on your desk. It can only explode when contained. Containment through it's own weight is possible in huge piles, that's one reason Beirut happened but doesn't happen every day. If you store it accordingly, it won't do that.
I believe it's actually difficult to rig the load on a ship in a way that it will explode with certainty,
@@TheYear2525 Ok, thanks for those answers.
Because the UK doesn't want to draw attention to the fact that they just lost the war after admitting that they were the ones attacking Russia.
Russia basically showed up at their door with a gun and gave them a letter full of pictures of them cheating on their wife with young boys.
The UK has said it will stand down and not arm Ukraine with long range weapons.
@@TheYear2525
I suspect a decent dust explosion could set off the rest. But that would require the cargo hold having precisely the right amount of draft, sufficiently dry environment and a decent enough source of ignition to coincide. It's not impossible of course, but it's highly unlikely.
Russian ships or those linked to Russia should not be allowed in European waters , Not in the North sea Baltic Sea or Mediterranean Sea
Everyone has the right to sail in international waters
@@Worldturnedupsidedownnot if you are a fascist dictator!
@deborahross9804 any dictator can sail in INTERNATIONAL waters
@@Worldturnedupsidedown not criminals
@@Puddy777we've literally got 1 sat in Parliament right now
CLICKBAIT ALERT THERE IS NO SHIP ON FIRE!!
And no ship adrift. Its anchored.
@static-audio you're right there,youtube is going down the pan rapidly,full of AI,lies, misinformation and fake news...not what it used to be.its close to the British press,,BULLS**T.
@static-audio - It says it is adrift off the Kent coast - it is also not adrift. What it says is "Ship packed with explosive Russian fertiliser adrift off Kent coast" It does NOT say it is on fire.
Wouldn’t this be considered chemical warfare?
What was the intended port and buyer?
Send it back to the port of origin!
Chemical warfare? That stuff isn't even toxic.
Also that stuff is shipped around the world in thousands of vessels and it's safe enough that they don't blow up left and right. It just happens so that, the Russians don't take the maximum allowed bulk size serious.
To make it explode, it takes special circumstances. Ammonium nitrate isn't even classified as an explosive. Though it's kinda close to one. However, if you try to light a pile of it on your desk, not much will happen. I will fizzle in the flame but probably not even sustain a reaction aka you won't be able to light it on fire.
And even if, for some very very weird reason this ship was rigged from Russia in a way it would explode, which would probably be actually difficult, then it's effectiveness would be far below that of nuke with similar yield. Because it doesn't detonate 1500 feet in the air. That makes the zone of destruction a dang lot smaller. It doesn't make any sense in this scenario either.
So, no matter how you turn it, there is no reason to freak out. So far it's a normal ship, with a normal load (though not to spec) with some damaged systems.
@@TheYear2525why can't Russia simply follows the rules of maximum allowed bulk size?
Its like an illegal drug dealer driving a full car without a driving licence!
Russia of course aren't dumb but them seem to work on dumb luck.
@@TheYear2525Interesting how many places (including entire docks) have been destroyed by ammonium nitrate explosions. I watch channels like Plainly Difficult and Fascinating Horror. They cover disasters, man-made and natural.
@@sophierobinson2738 Yes and because you follow those channels (I actually know them, too) you have a bias, because those channels agglomerate tragic stuff, so that it seems the whole world is full of it. Everything can go catastrophic at times, and I'm not saying, that with ammonium nitrate it doesn't happen. Actually it happens relatively often in comparison to other goods, so you are right. But as I said, there is a huuuuge amount of that stuff carried through the whole world and those channels we watch would have to make one video a day about a new ammonium nitrate explosion to even get in the street that leads to the ballpark of it being a significant concern.
Dust explosions, like from flour, are also known to level buildings and probably also docks. I imagine they happen way more often than ammonium nitrate explosions but the aftermath is not as extreme.
@@TheYear2525 Oh, yeah, USCSB covered the sugar factory explosion. Who would have figured sugar was an explosive. I learned about flour exploding through a Terry Pratchett Discworld book.
Don't let them get it anywhere near the Richard Montgomery.
VERY GOOD POINT..
Oh god I forgot that's still there.
Tow it to Spain, since that is where it was going. Let them deal with it if they ordered it.
So Spain is buying this sh**** from Russia, giving those butchers money? Yeah, tow it to Spain.
Why cant it go to where it was going in the first place???
Why do we have to have it on our doorstep?
I wouldn't be surprised if they would try to manoeuvre it through the Thames to central London if putin can't use nukes he's find some other way ?
Is it going to become a submarine?
Why has this been allowed to anchor off our country. Where is the navy?
stopping the small boats.
It’s still in international waters. Still not in British waters
@@chef_hoyle7180
Dictaorhsips should not be allowed in any waters.
We don’t have one anymore.
They are watching the Russian subs dotted around the coast
Get the navy to tow it into international waters. Either it goes on it's way or the navy blows it up.
Why not send it back to the port where it came from?
It is in international waters.
Back to London better
It's steering gear is kaput...what a coincidence.
Evil Russia at it again?🤣
You say "Evil Russia" as if there was ever a righteous Russia
True
@@davidjones-wt2qq yes , evil russia, it's always been
@@joecool9739 It’s a ship full of fertiliser lol 😂
@@joecool9739 outside of the UK they laugh at us and think this country is a joke. I'm not against their opinion.
That ship is more powerful than a russian nuke
That's a lunatic thing to say.
@@gandydancer9710, He's right though.
The minimum size of a Russian tactical nuclear warhead is 5 kt (kilotons). This tub of bolts is packing ~twice the potential explosive power.
Is not
No it's not. A 10 kilo-tone bomb in sea can not create a tidal wave or a tsunami.
@@grahamhireme9283 will be if it gets close to the wreck of the Richard Montgomery. Quite a coincidence that it turns up off the Thames estuary after parking near various sensitive areas.
That should stop the rubber boaters. Good idea.
Is the ship on fire? Why is there a ship on fire at the cover image? What kind of journalism is that?!
AI
LOL. This isn't a 'journalism' channel.
Like all journalism and information now,,AI,clickbait,fake news or old fashioned bulls**t.its the world we live in now.
We can stop him now Ukraine is literally begging to do it for us all! What the h… is the problem let them 🤷♂️🙏
The civilians
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Why didn't it go back to where it came from...immediately it got damaged??.!
Because the UK is attacking Russia directly with long range missiles using Ukrainian draft soldiers and an installed dictator to attack Russia.
So Russia just sailed next to the UK, told them to stop their attacks or get nuked, (which the UK did) and then departed, leaving a "gift".
At first I was wondering what kind of fertilizer they were talking about, because you can't just say "fertilizer" and insinuate it will go boom.
Then the clarified that it's Ammonium nitrate and that is indeed the mos dangerous one. It even has a different fire safety classification than other nitrates. However, under normal circumstances it doesn't really explode if lit on fire. It needs to be forcefully contained for that. However² the weight of a huge mound of it can fulfill this containment, like it did in Beirut. It's also more likely to explode when it's sitting a long time, baking together.
I assume for regular transport measures are taken to prevent this and that it was a different story in Beirut because there it was basically forgotten, stored in wrong ways ect. .
Nice to see a reply that does make sense, not dramatising a situation unnecessarily. 16 mill m.t. of this stuff is produced annually worldwide, much of it transported on bulk carriers like the Ruby. She has hull and propeller damages and is in no more danger of blowing up than any other ship carrying ammonium nitrate (or LNG, LPG, chemicals etc.)
Me who lives in Margate and can see the ship out of my bedroom window at any time 😅 0:01
That ship is about to mysteriously sink to the bottom of the channel. 🤷♂🤣🤣🤣🤣🚢
Threatening Britain never works well as they have very powerful friends.
It absolutely works now. Biden was in the UK while this happened I think. Russia has won this war, and fortunately didn't bomb us.
What about sanctions, non existent it seems.
There were never sanctions on Russian fertilizer, it would have created food shortages.
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. You're new to this right? The sanctions are still there. The ukrainians are still banned from leaving Ukraine and drafted to the Russian border. The UK is prepared to fight to the last Ukrainian. Russia just exposed the UKs incompetence and cowardice. It literally sailed through te channel. Surrounded by nato forces too scared to engage and it left a bomb. After telling the UK to stop firing long range weapons into Russia.
Why didn't it dock in Kaliningrad after being turned away by Lithuania - it's russian cargo...eminating in the Kola peninsula?
Worst case scenario this ship decides to float up the Thames to the Thames barrier , then somebody on-board ' accidentally ' discards a lit cigarette in the wrong place....bye bye barrier
Barrier that hasn’t done anything for about 25 years, who cares
I'm a londoner and always wondered if the barrier was a security device. The big floods..1928? Come from up river.
Maybe bye bye London!
you can put a blow torch to amonium nitrate ,,i have done that,,it just decomposes to laughter gas, and burns,, ,, i big volume and under the right wrong conditions, it can go boom,, but really look up YOY country or any you want, and see how much you use per year,, and then ask you selff how does it get to where it is used,, (agriculture) and have been driving behind a truck loaded with 16 ton of it ;o)
RUSSIA PROBABLY HAS A NUCLEAR BOMB ON THAT SHIP !!
If the cargo didn't have a legal destination why was it loaded in the first place, how can it be looking for a port after departing where it was loaded?
Why can’t it be towed back to where it came from!
you know what would be really helpful? Some representation of where the ship is, and some data about how far away it is from the nearest coastline....
Ffsake uk will take it in port we take in everything else these days
see " Texas City Explosion 1947 "
Why is this ship not being mentioned on any BBC or ITV news programmes? If the government has put a "D" notice on it, how can Times Radio be showing it? I haven't seen it on any other news channels. Does it actually exist???
This is like pass the parcel 🎉
It’s hardly adrift. It has an anchor support ship.
Offload some of the cargo, disperse it so that if the worst case scenario happens the damage won't be so bad (at least until the ship is repaired properly).
Suppose I'll have to get fertiliser for my tomato plants from somewhere else now!..
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How much should someone have to pay for insurance and repair fees to find a place to repair this ship?
I would not recommend using the channel tunnel until it has been moved
‘tHE tiMEs’ seems to be the main nEws oUtLEt to be relentlessly pushing this one. thanks again GCHQ.
It's anchored 15 miles off the coast, outside of territorial waters. Just don't allow it inside.
Farmers in this country would love what this ship is carrying.
As of 30 Sept, no port will allow the ship to dock for repairs, unless it's empty. The ship is anchored off Kent with a cracked hull, rudder and propeller damage.
The owner should be arrested for allowing something so dangerous to drift about the ocean.
Tow it back to russia
10 Kilotons! Hiroshima bomb was 15 kilotons.
the idiotic UK government could get us all killed. This is why people need to take voting seriously.
I’d like to see what that boom actually looked like in the ocean. Lol
look up american ammo ship explosion in ww2 , there was a ammo ship going up
FERTILIZER EXPLOSIONS HAVE CAUSED MANY DISASTERS! Freeport, Texas in the 1940’s, the town of West, Texas, the parking garage at the World Trade Center, Oklahoma City.
They have. So did flour explosions.
I'm not sure, though, if your examples were exploding fertilizer, though. Sounds more like bombs where fertilizer was used as an oxygen donor in an explosive mix.
Nitrate fertilizer on it's own doesn't burn or explode. The only exception is ammonium nitrate, that can explode in certain circumstances. It's not even classified as an explosive. If forcefully contained, like in a container of some sorts or even by it's own weight, if it's really a huge mound of it, it may explode. Measures are taken so that this doesn't usually happen. Else ships would blow up on a daily basis, because 45 million tons of it are produced every year and very much of that is probably transported on ships.
Stop rushing your titles and thumbnails TR, you're supposed to be better than that 🤔
Where'd you get that idea from!!??!
@@-jz5mm Thumbnail image used, not in the presentation. Title of presentation inaccurate. Rushed I hope instead of exaggerated just for effect. Slava Ukraine
It's a bit close to the SS Richard Montgomery. Now, if THAT goes up you can kiss goodbye to a good chunk of Sheerness. So the question has to be... is this Russian ship being used as a detonator to set off the SS Richard Montgomery?
The distance is 35 nm. It's NOT a bit close.
Now that is a very good point.
@@zonzevenYet!
@@zonzeven Not at the moment, but it wouldn't take long for it to close the distance.
What i don't understand is:
If this ammonium nitrate this ship is carrying, if it's made wet so it can't catch fire 🔥
Wouldn't it be safe to get in to empty it 🤔
Well ques that would have been done if it works, or..!??
And if that's not a solution, why not get it further out on the sea and hit it with a missile - if it explodes and go up in the air, it shouldn't make any damage to the sea, or...!?
Not if the Russians have rigged it deliberately to be able to detonate remotely.. very suspicious that ship..
I hope by now you have removed it from any danger. !!!!!
Where and when did the damage to this ship occur?
How close to the Channel tunnel is this ship floating? or has no one thought about that small detail, there's a lot more that passes along that tunnel than just passengers.
Fertiliser you ordered has become explosive??😂😂
If stored properly, it's not dangerous. But knowing the Russians, they just dumped the stuff into the cargo holds (without barrels and pallets).
"Let's take it to the UK. They are dumb enough to look after us"
Stop whining.
@@littlefluffybushbaby7256 Just telling it like it is. We are having a problem with unwanted boats and now we have one with a ship.
The ship needs to return to home port .
We have had at least 5 days to deal with it and nothing is happening - someone needs to make a decision to remove it or sink it - who is in charge???????
Some part of me saying the Cossacks are drooling 😃
Fear. Fear. Worry and more Fear. Get a grip and DO something about it. That's why we elect politicians who present themselves as able to deal with international problems. Get on with it and spread some good news for a change
Ammonium nitrate is not just used for fertilizer it’s used widely in mining as explosives!
but not without something added to it ,o),,and they mix it while pouring it into the drilled holes ,, storage time = zerro and set of by booster charges
looks nicely lined up with the Thames if that was to blow up i think the Thames barrier wouldn't stand up to such a surge
Nuclear mushroom 🍄 🤯☠️🤦♂️
Its In British waters it needs off loading Navy needs a call to Come back to UK and sort this out NOW
If the ship is carrying a dangerous cargo, why is it allowed through the channel, and not sent through the high seas?
How far of the coast line is it anchored, could it be scuttled without it exploding or would it react to sea water? Or how big an explosion would it give if it was blown up? Could it not be discharged into smaller boats that would alleviate the problem? Or tow it out into the middle of the Atlantic then scuttle it!!
As long as a fire doesn't start on the ship, is it in danger of exploding?
Is this going to be some kind of warning to us I wonder? I won’t be surprised if there is an “accident” on board that detonates it out at sea off the English coast.
The ship MV Ruby is flying a Malta flag, and was on it's way to Norway. Norway refused to let it dock because it was damaged. In this instance it has nothing to do with Russia, except that they own/produced/sold the vessel.
Right! Just like all those fishing trolleys russia sent out to "fish" in then 80´s and 90´s and never caught anything, it was just bad luck on their part ...
@@Lhawk2107 you can use vessel tracking apps to view the MV Ruby, it's route, it's current location, it's flag, it's destination and where it came from.
Our navy is arresting grannies and grandads for shouting out at the removal of winter payment
If it's that dangerous, why don't the government Tow it out to sea simple
What is the so called Government doing about it🤔
Destination Beruit.
1. It's a Lebanese registered ship.
2. They don't have any ammonium nitrate left in Beruit anymore.
3. There's not that much left of Beruit to blow up anyway.
3. Even if they do blow up what's left of Beruit, the someone (Ricky G says: ask Mel Gibson, we all know that he knows) would have done it sooner or later so it's more or less a win/win for town planning.
The ship is registered in Malta.
Canny that it just happens to be in position to create a threat to London in respect to a tsunami if it accidentally detonates
Is this ammonium Nitrate OR Ammonium Perchlorate. The latter shock sensitive and could be set off by a hidden primary explosive and possible a Trojan Horse.
What’s to talk about? Oh that’s right?! It requires a common sense, responsible decision from someone in government, shame on me?!
I AM BLOCKING TIMES RADIO for its use of fake thumbnails.
Here’s a different spin on the many possibilities. In the river Medway there is also a an American ww2 ship full to the brim with explosives, it may also have a few pagers on board. It would be catastrophic if it was to explode on or near this old warship via a remote detonator.
There is a munitions ship The SS Richard Montgomery beached along the Thames Estuary in 1944 eventually sinking with 1,400 tonnes of explosive cargo on board.
The explosives are unstable. If the Russian ship explodes near SS Richard Montgomery. The explosion would be catastrophic.
Clearly the target is the Channel Tunnel
By my reckoning it's about 60 miles in completely the wrong place. Not to mention even if it went off over the tunnel it likely do sweet f a.
An accident close to our shores could be disastrous. The wisest course of action would be to see that an "accident" occurred while this ship is well offshore. I'm sure we have a few Ukrainian refuges with advanced PADI qualifications, who would be delighted to help out.
do you realize how many of that kind of loaded ships per year goes the same rute ,,if this really goes boom, there might be some broken windows ashore,,
why should any ship be allowed to carry ammonium nitrate if it's that dangerous?
The wreck of the SS Richard Montgomery thats holding a huge amount of munitions is about 30 miles away from the boat they are talking about. Don't let it get any closer.
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A floating 10 kiloton device is hardly scaremongering.....it is a perfect " false flag " scenario should " Stormshadow " be used on Russian territory
A very poor report leaving more unanswered questions. If its cargo is so dangerous then it should be returned to its departure port.That port will have handling facilities.
If that ship explodes, Putin will feel the full wrath of NATO.
Surfers are gathering so when it goes up, they can catch the wave.