Since the Imperium wouldn't understand the repairs, the Dark Eldar would probably install a direct link to the Emperor's pain. The suffering of such an immense psychic being might sustain *them* for thousands of years.
@JRPGFan20000 Could still offer them the same deal, though. Just instead of the pain of Big E they get to reroute some of the souls from the sacrifices. ...no wait. Isn't that actually supposed to be kind of peaceful an end?
@JRPGFan20000 "souls" in 40k are not what we call souls in the catholic religion. It's simple the subject's presence in the warp. A human can exist without it, those humans are a special class of psycker who negate the warp in them and around them, cutting any link they might have to the soul's realm. So dark eldars' don't really change from this perpetual change of souls, but their permanent link surely corrupt them
Speaking of orks, wouldn’t the near perfect solution to the problem be to convince the orks that Gork and Mork think that the Emperor is alive and well on Terra, ork waagh energy then heals him and he can then start hardcore unscrewing the Imperium
Tech priest: Xenos, install this piece of technology into the golden throne Drukhari: why should we, this is just a primitive transcription device Tech priest: So we can make a badass internet comedy series.... and thus, TTS was canon..
For those confused as to why the Imperium has gone to the Dark Eldar for help, as opposed to the Eldar. The answer is simple the Dark Eldar have access to the vast majority of advanced technology from the pre-fall Eldar empire. This might be confusing for some, since the Craftworld Eldar have closer connections to their ancient traditions. What many people often forget or don't know about the Craftworld Eldar is that prior to the Fall, Craftworlds were not designed as places to live in and of themselves but as transport craft design to deliver supplies between distant planets. Because of the vast distances required to deliver various goods and supplies it was necessary for Craftworlds to be self sufficient. This would lead the inhabitants of these Craftworld to develop an insular and completely parallel culture to mainstream Eldar society. Thus they were effective "gypsies" within there own culture. Now admittedly the Craftworlds are advanced technology but they were effectively highly complex transports, think about it this way how advanced are our own shipping boats compared to the our overall level of technological prowess. Now the Dark Eldar on the other hand have an entire city full of technological marvels from their golden age. A city that acted as the primary shipping lane between the Webway and Real Space for the ancient Eldar empire. They have suns contained contained within a sub-realm around their city that they use as near endless power source and sophisticated understanding of biological augmentation that surpasses any other race currently in existence. There rejuvenating technology is so effective the oldest of Commoragh's Homunculi were alive even before the Fall. They have created weaponry that can cause massive crippling pain and injuries while also still keeping you alive and conscience. So to summarize while both have access to technology far beyond anything humanity currently has. The Dark Eldar simply have more of it and in some cases have technology that simply nobody else has access to or can even replicate.
The Drukhari however have one major default with most of these ancient tech : They cannot operate it any longer. Most of these technology were based on psychic abilities to be used, and the Drukhari Lost that a long time ago. For exemple, in Valedor, the Drukhari offers to the Asuryani an ancient planet-killer weapon called the Fireheart to fight the Tyranids, because it requires Psykers to activate. Another reason for the technological difference is that, unlike what most believe, the Asuryani are not found of mass destruction and murder, and as such, avoid using mass destruction weapons like the Drukhari have, or technology based on forbidden science (like Necromancy), because it may lead them closer to Chaos. Only some Craftworld like Iyanden have passed beyond that restrictions for necessities, and Craftworld Biel-Tan, because they give themselves the permission as Defenders of the Maiden World. However, this last part has become less important with the closing days of the 41st Millenium.
@@poodlescone9700 Why not the Orks? They seem so instinctive when it comes to understanding tech. Moreover, most of the devices and parts construction were likely lost to time. The Orks could just ghetto rig them with more widely available parts like a Heavy bolter or a Lascannon. WAAGHH!!....Uh.. I mean YEAH!!
Tuck Mun Hum Four problems: The orkz use their psycker abilities to make their tech work, so for them to jerry rig a bunch of parts to the Golden Throne and make it work: a bunch of Orkz need to be kept around. Second; Nooooo one likes Orkz. Three; Heresy. Four; Xenos scum.
@@crypto1223 I mean you could trick the orkz. Simply say if golden chair man dies no more war. The orkz would take over terra but hey the emperor is now a walking ork tank.
@@Fourtytwo4242 that's highly heretical and also funny it would be a way for him to bond and even summon back jaghatai Khan, and btw he would be using dakka beyond dakka like a nirvanadakka of sorts.
It had to be the Dark Eldar and not the Craft World Eldar because the Dark Eldar deal in souls, which also happens to be the fuel of the Golden Throne.
Stupid space elves: Try hitting CTRL+ALT+DEL then *END TASK* ... Imperium: 😑 1) Magik machine thing, not computer. 2) we're not going to kill the Man-peror. Backstabbing space elves: cant blame us for trying. 🧝♂️
The Drukari are also the actual Eldar of the fall and remember the great technologies they made at their heights. The reason the Inquisition didn't deal with the Aeldari is because they don't have the technical knowledge the Drukari do since they left the home worlds before the fall. As much as everyone hates to admit it, the Drukari are the Eldar of the Empire
The Eldar have the Ynari. And there is Cawl. They got Guilleman back. I would say that is quite the reference to hire them instead of some monsters that will skin you alive first chance they get.
Armored mecha It apparently already has. Several times in fact. Perhaps making deals with interstellar pirates and universe feared torturers was actually a bad idea.
It would not serve Drukhari to have The Emperor dead and The Empire in ruins. You can't hunt for slaves when everybody is dead. And Tau or orc souls aren't as tasty as human ones.
Whilst humans are populous and useful don’t forget the sheer resources the Drukhari command. Some of their factions make a habit of capturing the populations of entire hive worlds to put in suspended animation to cover any potential ‘famines’. Comorragh itself is a ‘city’ that is the size of an entire sector. The imperial navy are a thorn in their side. No astromicon = no imperial fleet = feeding frenzy. No (or vastly reduced) humans = much less fuel for the Chaos Gods. Could be pretty handy for the Drukhari to betray the Imperium. There are other slave races that are available.
@@sardonictendencies8605 I was thinking about just that before i posted my message, but i'm pretty sure that such a huge change would be disastrous to them. They would inevitably run out of new slaves. Crippled Empire would serve them, a dead one would in the long run hurt them. In any case it is a huge gamble, one that it's safer not to take.
That would be pointless, since the fuel for the golden throne is pskers souls and the dark eldar lost their psykic abbilities a long time ago. If they would instead sacrifing Eldar souls than wohohohohohoho jesus christ. That would be like a firework in the warp
that is what they are doing the dark elder have a couple of citizens who are pskyily sensitive and that need to be gotten rid of but because they don't get any satisfaction out of torturing there own so they just sell em to the imperium for a ridiculous price preferably $99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 or just humans to sacrifice
Also because Dark Eldar have massive slave stock which is useful for the hangry Emperor so a constant feed of slaves just in case normal means have issues.
Since the Dark Eldar want as little as possible to do with psykers inside their city, I could see them striking a deal with the Imperium. Replacement slaves for any psykers they've captured.
What's that? Pull aside Dorn, Perturabo AND Magnus? And tell them about my special secret project? Why would I do something like that? THAT WOULD BE LOGICAL!
And telling Magnus to never under even the most dire situations to never teleport his way to the throne room would be the smartest thing I could ever do. Also killing Horus instead of showing mercy? That'd be intelligent
The Necrontyr once made a deal with 'genies', and their freedom would be taken from them. I imagine if the Imperium would sign a similar contract with the Drukhari, than who knows what could happen with the Emperor. Perhaps his body would be saved and able to disconnect from the golden throne, but perhaps the Drukhari would find a way to keep his soul and drag it to a darker hell
You'd have to pity any individual or group stupid enough to think they could enslave a soul that is capable of getting into aetheric fist fights with the dark gods. Merely being in Big E's presence is traumatic for psykers and would probably be lethal to someone trying to take a piece.
What are you talking about? we never talked to the Eldar about this. The Dark Eldar are torture happy sadist the opposite of emos, you don't hear the Homunculi crying about their so called "golden age" you hear them laugh about the "delicious pain" their new human slaves provide them. If anything they're edge lords obsessed with cause as much misery and pain as physically possible.
Dark Eldar aren't also something that a lot of the greater galaxy is: Stupid. Dark Eldar by comparison to every one other major civilization within the galaxy live within their own means. What they do is from a place of survival, which is why they are compelling in the first place. They know helping humanity only benefits them. More slaves, more allies, more victims, and ultimately more chances for a way to stop Slaanesh.
To a point. They escape chaos' notice in part because they don't actively pose a threat to them. If humanity fell into the Eye of Terror, that priority would change, but strengthening the Imperium also makes it harder to acquire pain slaves. No, I think the appeal is more selfish and less political. Homunculi are supposedly politically mercenary, their loyalties going to whomever can best provide them with their needs (test subjects, souls, etc). This is not an accord with a Cabal and therefore with Asdrubael or Malys.
The Dark Eldar are monsters in their behavior. But they have to do what they do to not become soul snacks for She Who Thirsts. I've always personally liked the Imperium the most in 40K, although I don't agree with everything they've done, but in the choice between psycho pervert Xenos and a beyond fucking psycho pervert Chaos God? I'll take the Xenos. They can be wiped much easier if the time comes, and besides can they really be judged for what they do? Considering how thousands of souls are fed to the Emperor every week to sustain Him, his own people, can the Drukhari be judged so harshly?
There is a story of a follower of the eldar god of the dead resurrecting rubric marines and then killing them or banishing them into the void with a wraithblade. If she can undust rubric marines she can certainly uncorpse the emperor.
@@rustkarl not necessarily, after all the rubric marines stayed in the same place. the issue is more that the rubric marines still had complete souls while the emperor's has been shattered.
AS a drukhari, there are many reasons to do so, besides the obvious souls. Mankind is still one of the biggest enemy of Chaos. And the chance to manipulate the Emperor by "repairing" the thorne to influence the emperors behavior would be a tremendous advantage. Drukahri Archons are long term schemers. Also the Drukahri know best how to use souls to stay alive.
Inquisition - "We need your help to fix our golden throne!" Drukhari - "Um... Why did you put him in a giant torture device...?" Inquisition - "A giant what???"
This is really well done. The main reason(s) the Imperium would seek the help of the Dark Eldar (of all beings) instead of the Eldar (who helped resurrect Gulliman) is that the DE have a much greater access to Eldar tech. They also feel in souls... something the Eldar don't dare to do because they think it perverse. This is the main reason.
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3:04 That is a book on a stick. Wow Tzeench demons are stupid. On the subject of Golden throne, however - Dark eldar have retained more of the ancient Eldar Empire technology than Craftworld ones, since denizens of Commorragh were refugies from crown worlds, whereas craftworlders before the Fall were spacefaring gipsies.
The Dark Eldar can be perhaps be blackmailed as well. The Throne holds closed a rift not only into the Warp, but also stabilizes a shattered portion of the Webway. The Throne fails? Well then Daemons flood into the Webway, and they would not only overrun Terra, but, using their now-unfettered access to the Webway, would very likely head directly for the Dark City itself; a prize that Slaanesh has coveted for millennia.
actually, the drukhari are incredibly honest. they'll keep their word to you...to the letter. they will just also happen to do some other stuff outside of that. I mean, look at what happened with the T'au. they kept their word and defended the tau worlds they promised to protect. they just happened to do some other stuff beyond that.
The next phase of 8th ed will see a little know mate of bobby G from the mechanicum fix the throne. Maybe they know what will if the emps die and want to prevent it make it happen?
The Throne was made to push the Emprah's grand plan (My son puts me in a chair to make me a God so I can kill Chaos Gods, eat the remnants(like what happened to the Eldar gods) and score Eldar Goddess booty Just as planned). It is a mere cocoon from which the Emprah can become a god
Yeah! My boy Fab! Although uh... So... I think Fab is awesome, for sure don't get me wrong... But letting him get a look at the Emperor's genetics... Uh... Even if you never planned on letting him leave alive, he's a fairly crafty fellow tbh.
i dont think the drukhari would betray the imperium in a way that would end the emperor/empire. i think the drukhari would know that this would birth another chaos god
4000 psykers each day? I know the Impirium is vast but that's a ridiculously high number considering how rare psykers are. And warp travel is unreliable at best. What if one of the black ships arrives a day late to Terra? Also imagine the potential lost here. If just one in a thousand of those psykers would manage to become a Grey Knight that would be 1460 Grey Knights per year. Basically the Golden Throne is consuming a legion worth of super astartes every century. (talking about Grey Knights not primaris)
Capture a load of Ork Mech bois, along with tonnes of Orks you convince to be loyal to the Emperor by promising them really cool weapons if they're loyal to the Emperor, and then have the residents of Terra cheer them on as they repair the Throne. The extra Ork mercenaries are just there to amplify the effect but by cheering on the Mech bois they'll be utterly convinced their thing will work, and because of that it will. Alternatively, get those Drukhari but use Orks to amplify the effect, or get your Mechanicus and psykers to get their shit together so that you can figure out how exactly Orks work and see if you can make some new kind of Ork which isn't obsessed with killing everything but still has that self-belief effect, then make more and more and then have them amplify the capability of the repairmen you get working on the Throne and then the capability of the Emprah himself.
Snorlaxx UnLucky there would be a massive warp rift on Terra itself and the Astronomican would go out, leaving the Imperium “in the dark” as far as long distance travel
The technology behind the Talos Pain Engine and such seems like it would be related to the Golden Throne; mechanical engine fueled by human suffering; yet immune to the Warp’s influence.
Could the Inquisition GET any more hypocritical? Also, NOBODY tell Gulliman about the 4000 souls thing; I think it'd be the last straw to finally push him over the edge.
Good Work as always, They Can't be Trusted ,and Perhaps With the Fact that Drukhari Homeworld is Dying and Don't wanna Be Eaten But Slanesh, it's may Be Incentive ,who Knows,Time Will Tell 😎 !!!.
Something to mention is that the Dark Eldar are more technological advanced than their Craftworld kin. They retain more of their former empire's technology. So it's possible that the Craftworlds simply don't have the know-how, forcing the Inquisitors to go to Commoragh for aid.
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 they have a lot of tech from the Ancient Eldar empire. However most of it they can no longer use most likely because the tech was made for psykers in mind. Something the Dark Eldar no longer possess
The Dark Eldar would help the Imperium for one simple reason. Slannesh. They know the Imperium are the only thing that can slow down Chaos and if they wake the Emperor of Mankind then the Chaos gods are going to be busy.
*Inquisitor walks into haemonculi laboratory* Haemonculus singing: "Poor unfortunate souls, in pain... in need. This wants to repair the throne that one wants to save their lord and do I help them? Yes indeed."
Do the Drukhari not stand to benefit from the Emperor being around? While they may not like humans, they need them for their rituals. Also if the imperium fails does that allow chaos even more power? Feels like they would prefer to deal with humans than not.
Yes they are ultimately parasites and depend on humanities survival and prosperity in order to obtain its constant tithe of sacrificial captives. Another important factor for them is that of the Imperium falls there is no longer any distraction to occupy Chaos who will then proceed to assault the Dark City and claim the Drukhari souls for their own.
I love your videos and encounter them often while working, so you come on my autoplay a lot. Idk but I am jarred every time by the loud introduction, just me I suppose. You do a great job as a lore master, I'm just easily spooked i suppose.
Dark Eldar will keep their end of the bargain so long as you can ensure that doing what you tell them to will be more lucrative than stabbing you in the back Orks will keep their end of the bargain so long as you can keep them from getting bored. Neither are small feats.
“Planting spyware within the framework of the shack you call a palace was but a simple task.” ...sharp inhale... “slavesayswhat.” -Urien Rakarth to the Star Child.
It is in the interest of the Dark Eldar to preserve the Emperor. Because if his psychic barrier fails and Chaos marines seize the golden throne. They will be able to use it to set up a base within the webway to stage an assault on the Drukhari and reach the Black Library.
2:05 - Ah, Spiky Tits. | It world explain how the Golden Throne functions...the Craftworlders are basically the gypsies / travellers of the Aeldari race, Drukari technology is more advanced. | 11:30 - It mostly works on Drukari, due to their connection to "She Who Thirsts". | What if Konrad Curze was found as he emerged from the crater that his arrival made on Nostramo?
Just pull the plug already and see what happens... We're screwed either way at this point. The emperor is both a shield and a crutch at this point to man, at some point we must walk on our own. Maybe with the plug pulled he could come again. Who knows but at some point all you can do is roll the dice. The imperium is in decay at this point...
Trusting the drukhari with literally anything is the dumbest thing you can do in the 40k universe short of exploring the abandoned caves in your free time on a tomb world
dealing with the dark eldar is something that fucks with me. I'm surprised they didn't bother to ask the orks instead. Never mind the fact that they're the inquisition
Little late to the party but there might be another reason to ask the drukhari instead of craft world eldar: The craft world eldar might consider helping humanity if it fits into their agenda. But the dark eldar are Masters of arts, which includes as far as I know mechanical stuff. Also they're the ones to seek for the absolute perfection of their art. The golden throne is a monument, an incredible machine. So it's easier to bargain with drukhari instead of the craft world eldar bc the drukhari are probably easier to bait with the possibility of working on such an amazing machine.
Drukhari can be bargained with if you know you have them by their balls. And no race is so close to being devoured by a chaos god as them, so with the right bargain they will do it for free if it somehow benefits them. For example the emperor somehow cutting Slaneshi link to the elves or something.
Since the Imperium wouldn't understand the repairs, the Dark Eldar would probably install a direct link to the Emperor's pain. The suffering of such an immense psychic being might sustain *them* for thousands of years.
James Gordley MILLIONS
@JRPGFan20000
Could still offer them the same deal, though. Just instead of the pain of Big E they get to reroute some of the souls from the sacrifices.
...no wait. Isn't that actually supposed to be kind of peaceful an end?
@JRPGFan20000 "souls" in 40k are not what we call souls in the catholic religion. It's simple the subject's presence in the warp. A human can exist without it, those humans are a special class of psycker who negate the warp in them and around them, cutting any link they might have to the soul's realm.
So dark eldars' don't really change from this perpetual change of souls, but their permanent link surely corrupt them
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and what needs be sacrificed to the device? souls
seriously you could trust an ork to hold up their end of a bargain more than a Drukhari.
One can trust an Ork at all times. Orkz iz made 4 ROKKIN! In other words, Orks will be Orks.
Speaking of orks, wouldn’t the near perfect solution to the problem be to convince the orks that Gork and Mork think that the Emperor is alive and well on Terra, ork waagh energy then heals him and he can then start hardcore unscrewing the Imperium
Well, Vect will keep a deal as long as you dont try to take his title as Dark Lord or whatever it is
A random nerd from Oregon That'd be so awesome and hilarious at the same time.
trickster3696 At least Orks are honest about themselves
Tech priest: Xenos, install this piece of technology into the golden throne
Drukhari: why should we, this is just a primitive transcription device
Tech priest: So we can make a badass internet comedy series....
and thus, TTS was canon..
CAP198462 That explains a lot
I think the internet might have died for like a millennia or so.
Zenlarrus Hiro And now they're bringing it back
@@rexlumontad8078 Yeah right. But I think memes in the 41st millennium might be dead or still lived?
Zenlarrus Hiro Lol, the memes always survive.
For those confused as to why the Imperium has gone to the Dark Eldar for help, as opposed to the Eldar. The answer is simple the Dark Eldar have access to the vast majority of advanced technology from the pre-fall Eldar empire.
This might be confusing for some, since the Craftworld Eldar have closer connections to their ancient traditions. What many people often forget or don't know about the Craftworld Eldar is that prior to the Fall, Craftworlds were not designed as places to live in and of themselves but as transport craft design to deliver supplies between distant planets. Because of the vast distances required to deliver various goods and supplies it was necessary for Craftworlds to be self sufficient. This would lead the inhabitants of these Craftworld to develop an insular and completely parallel culture to mainstream Eldar society. Thus they were effective "gypsies" within there own culture. Now admittedly the Craftworlds are advanced technology but they were effectively highly complex transports, think about it this way how advanced are our own shipping boats compared to the our overall level of technological prowess.
Now the Dark Eldar on the other hand have an entire city full of technological marvels from their golden age. A city that acted as the primary shipping lane between the Webway and Real Space for the ancient Eldar empire. They have suns contained contained within a sub-realm around their city that they use as near endless power source and sophisticated understanding of biological augmentation that surpasses any other race currently in existence. There rejuvenating technology is so effective the oldest of Commoragh's Homunculi were alive even before the Fall. They have created weaponry that can cause massive crippling pain and injuries while also still keeping you alive and conscience.
So to summarize while both have access to technology far beyond anything humanity currently has. The Dark Eldar simply have more of it and in some cases have technology that simply nobody else has access to or can even replicate.
The Drukhari however have one major default with most of these ancient tech : They cannot operate it any longer.
Most of these technology were based on psychic abilities to be used, and the Drukhari Lost that a long time ago. For exemple, in Valedor, the Drukhari offers to the Asuryani an ancient planet-killer weapon called the Fireheart to fight the Tyranids, because it requires Psykers to activate.
Another reason for the technological difference is that, unlike what most believe, the Asuryani are not found of mass destruction and murder, and as such, avoid using mass destruction weapons like the Drukhari have, or technology based on forbidden science (like Necromancy), because it may lead them closer to Chaos. Only some Craftworld like Iyanden have passed beyond that restrictions for necessities, and Craftworld Biel-Tan, because they give themselves the permission as Defenders of the Maiden World.
However, this last part has become less important with the closing days of the 41st Millenium.
@Ansegise Gallien LOL.... HERETIC !!!!! USE FIREEEEEEE.
@@farseeraradrel4808 just bcos they can't use it, doesn't mean they don't know how
From this day, I will call craftworld eldars: Eldar gypsies. thanks!
@@dread6987 its worse, "even our gypsies are more advanced and what not compared to simple mon'kei like you"-some dark eldar snob
Deals with Homoculi covens? How badly can this go? *Reads Carrion Throne* Oh we are so screwed.
Let's call the Tau. The Hamunculi provideo their e-mail as a reference.
@@poodlescone9700 Why not the Orks? They seem so instinctive when it comes to understanding tech. Moreover, most of the devices and parts construction were likely lost to time. The Orks could just ghetto rig them with more widely available parts like a Heavy bolter or a Lascannon. WAAGHH!!....Uh.. I mean YEAH!!
Tuck Mun Hum Four problems: The orkz use their psycker abilities to make their tech work, so for them to jerry rig a bunch of parts to the Golden Throne and make it work: a bunch of Orkz need to be kept around. Second; Nooooo one likes Orkz. Three; Heresy. Four; Xenos scum.
@@crypto1223 I mean you could trick the orkz. Simply say if golden chair man dies no more war. The orkz would take over terra but hey the emperor is now a walking ork tank.
@@Fourtytwo4242 that's highly heretical and also funny it would be a way for him to bond and even summon back jaghatai Khan, and btw he would be using dakka beyond dakka like a nirvanadakka of sorts.
It had to be the Dark Eldar and not the Craft World Eldar because the Dark Eldar deal in souls, which also happens to be the fuel of the Golden Throne.
Or the souls are being handed over to the Dark Eldar, and they pass some fuel cells or power crystals that power the Golden Throne.
Patrick Briley No doubt the Dark Eldar would want souls in return and there are plenty of souls in humanity to spare.
Not to mention the dark eldar are supposed to be more in line technologically with the ancient eldar than their craft world cousins
Souls are the one thing, that the Imperium has in abundance.
Souls are the one thing, that the Imperium has in abundance.
Did they trade cyberdongs
Asking for mechanicus reasons
Industrial quantities of toasters
yeremi voy That would be a fair trade for the Dark Eldar.
@@mr.tajtas4259 Ohhhhh I just oiled my robe *tech priest sounds*
@@notreallyhere67 SCREECHING INTENSIFIES
Techpriest saw the tortured throne... Golden Cyberdong Project initiated!
When the check engine light turns on and you have no idea what's wrong.
So you end up going to the shadiest garage imaginable.
The check emperor light has been blinking for a good minute, divine essence is running a bit low too, the emperor might have a loose piston ring or 2
Pull the negative wire and reset the ECU. Works usually...
Rogue Inquisitor: "Have you tried turning it off. And back on again?"
Stupid space elves: Try hitting CTRL+ALT+DEL then *END TASK* ...
Imperium: 😑 1)
Magik machine thing, not computer.
2) we're not going to kill the Man-peror.
Backstabbing space elves: cant blame us for trying. 🧝♂️
"Do as I say, not as I do." - my Dad, and also the Emperor.
Nyctophora TTS React Corax: "Listen to Daddy."
Also my mother, teachers, brother, grandmother and uncles... funny that.
I'm pretty sure he'd rather not be stuck on that throne to begin with.
Oh, interestingly my grandfather said something similar.
The Drukari are also the actual Eldar of the fall and remember the great technologies they made at their heights. The reason the Inquisition didn't deal with the Aeldari is because they don't have the technical knowledge the Drukari do since they left the home worlds before the fall. As much as everyone hates to admit it, the Drukari are the Eldar of the Empire
The Eldar have the Ynari. And there is Cawl. They got Guilleman back. I would say that is quite the reference to hire them instead of some monsters that will skin you alive first chance they get.
After seeing "if the Emperor had text to speech" I am no longer able to see this image 0:37 without hearing the sassy emperor.
I am sure THIS won't backfire SPECTACULARLY.
Armored mecha It apparently already has. Several times in fact. Perhaps making deals with interstellar pirates and universe feared torturers was actually a bad idea.
General Coma Assuming Vect will allow it so long the Imperium's continued suffering keep amusing him.
Maybe they would since if chaos is destroyed they would be free of she who thirst
Magnus: What is my purpose?
Emps: You sit in this chair.
Magnus: Oh my god.
Emps: Yeah. Welcome to the club.
I see what you did there
It would not serve Drukhari to have The Emperor dead and The Empire in ruins. You can't hunt for slaves when everybody is dead. And Tau or orc souls aren't as tasty as human ones.
Whilst humans are populous and useful don’t forget the sheer resources the Drukhari command. Some of their factions make a habit of capturing the populations of entire hive worlds to put in suspended animation to cover any potential ‘famines’. Comorragh itself is a ‘city’ that is the size of an entire sector. The imperial navy are a thorn in their side. No astromicon = no imperial fleet = feeding frenzy. No (or vastly reduced) humans = much less fuel for the Chaos Gods. Could be pretty handy for the Drukhari to betray the Imperium. There are other slave races that are available.
@@sardonictendencies8605 I was thinking about just that before i posted my message, but i'm pretty sure that such a huge change would be disastrous to them. They would inevitably run out of new slaves. Crippled Empire would serve them, a dead one would in the long run hurt them. In any case it is a huge gamble, one that it's safer not to take.
What would be really ironic is if the imperium sacrificed dark eldar to the golden throne
That would be pointless, since the fuel for the golden throne is pskers souls and the dark eldar lost their psykic abbilities a long time ago. If they would instead sacrifing Eldar souls than wohohohohohoho jesus christ. That would be like a firework in the warp
that is what they are doing the dark elder have a couple of citizens who are pskyily sensitive and that need to be gotten rid of but because they don't get any satisfaction out of torturing there own so they just sell em to the imperium for a ridiculous price preferably $99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 or just humans to sacrifice
@@Julian-vl7vn good point.
Michela Vincent That make sense.
Slanesh : heeeeey, that's my sooouuuls
Also because Dark Eldar have massive slave stock which is useful for the hangry Emperor so a constant feed of slaves just in case normal means have issues.
Since the Dark Eldar want as little as possible to do with psykers inside their city, I could see them striking a deal with the Imperium. Replacement slaves for any psykers they've captured.
Pierre Lindgren No doubt that will be the trade.
What's that? Pull aside Dorn, Perturabo AND Magnus? And tell them about my special secret project? Why would I do something like that? THAT WOULD BE LOGICAL!
And telling Magnus to never under even the most dire situations to never teleport his way to the throne room would be the smartest thing I could ever do. Also killing Horus instead of showing mercy? That'd be intelligent
Emps is such a dumbass
Tacticus_ Yet sucks at being human
My father doesn't understand.
He simply expected us to be obedient slaves.
Lorgar Bearer of the Word Yet you are slaves to Chaos simply because you just want to believe in the divine that Big E stubbornly refuses.
"No trusts the Drukhari, not even the Drukhari. Especially no the Drukhari."
The tau trusted the Drukhari two time but we all know what happen to the tau on the world that they were defending and the Tau ambassadors.
What happened? Well... you see Roger spilled coffee on his monitoring panel. Now that light that was always blinking? Yeah it's not blinking.
TDBoedy That's Emps' text to speech device.
Roger go to the eye and never come back.
What did the High Lords do this time?
Make steaks illegal
Nowhere Man Making stupid laws and decrees.
They made breathing illegal. Also, they discussed poop for the 20,000th time.
Filip Frackiewicz Wish they were actually purged for their incompetence
The Necrontyr once made a deal with 'genies', and their freedom would be taken from them. I imagine if the Imperium would sign a similar contract with the Drukhari, than who knows what could happen with the Emperor. Perhaps his body would be saved and able to disconnect from the golden throne, but perhaps the Drukhari would find a way to keep his soul and drag it to a darker hell
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@@rexlumontad8078 I meant to use it as a metaphor for the C'tan
You'd have to pity any individual or group stupid enough to think they could enslave a soul that is capable of getting into aetheric fist fights with the dark gods. Merely being in Big E's presence is traumatic for psykers and would probably be lethal to someone trying to take a piece.
The Warhammer Podcast Oh I see
The price to mantain the Golden Throne active is..... _Astronomican_
[ *BAZINGA* ]
I'm a lore buff and i didn't know some of what you covered in this video, Great narration to.
Wait we did a Trade deal with the Emos?
But sir, the Raven Guard already work for us...
@@internetzenmaster8952 good one
What are you talking about? we never talked to the Eldar about this. The Dark Eldar are torture happy sadist the opposite of emos, you don't hear the Homunculi crying about their so called "golden age" you hear them laugh about the "delicious pain" their new human slaves provide them. If anything they're edge lords obsessed with cause as much misery and pain as physically possible.
Zeno Blues sound like they have some really serious daddy issues
@@claytonsambola1856 What daddy? Unless you're Trueborn you're born in a vat with no family.
Dark Eldar aren't also something that a lot of the greater galaxy is: Stupid.
Dark Eldar by comparison to every one other major civilization within the galaxy live within their own means. What they do is from a place of survival, which is why they are compelling in the first place. They know helping humanity only benefits them. More slaves, more allies, more victims, and ultimately more chances for a way to stop Slaanesh.
I feel what the dark eldar do to "Survive" has gone well well beyond just mere survival. They do they things they do for their own pleasure.
To a point. They escape chaos' notice in part because they don't actively pose a threat to them. If humanity fell into the Eye of Terror, that priority would change, but strengthening the Imperium also makes it harder to acquire pain slaves.
No, I think the appeal is more selfish and less political. Homunculi are supposedly politically mercenary, their loyalties going to whomever can best provide them with their needs (test subjects, souls, etc). This is not an accord with a Cabal and therefore with Asdrubael or Malys.
The Dark Eldar are monsters in their behavior. But they have to do what they do to not become soul snacks for She Who Thirsts. I've always personally liked the Imperium the most in 40K, although I don't agree with everything they've done, but in the choice between psycho pervert Xenos and a beyond fucking psycho pervert Chaos God? I'll take the Xenos. They can be wiped much easier if the time comes, and besides can they really be judged for what they do? Considering how thousands of souls are fed to the Emperor every week to sustain Him, his own people, can the Drukhari be judged so harshly?
There is a story of a follower of the eldar god of the dead resurrecting rubric marines and then killing them or banishing them into the void with a wraithblade. If she can undust rubric marines she can certainly uncorpse the emperor.
Heheheheh no.
If that process were to take place then the Emperor would be removed from the Throne and Terra would be consumed by the Warp Tear.
@@rustkarl not necessarily, after all the rubric marines stayed in the same place. the issue is more that the rubric marines still had complete souls while the emperor's has been shattered.
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If he had to recover his power would be drawn from keeping the Warp Rift closed.
If he did he would let it rip apart.
Ynnari only work on the dead
The Emperor has never died.
AS a drukhari, there are many reasons to do so, besides the obvious souls. Mankind is still one of the biggest enemy of Chaos. And the chance to manipulate the Emperor by "repairing" the thorne to influence the emperors behavior would be a tremendous advantage. Drukahri Archons are long term schemers. Also the Drukahri know best how to use souls to stay alive.
Dedicated a whole forgeworld to the manufacture of dragondildos as payment?
Spiked dragon dildos
"Breaking News: Commissar Declares *Extra Heresy* "
Lewis Irwin Is he Ciaphas Cain HERO OF THE IMPERIUM?
In other news, Demonettes are wet, back to you Tom.
Maybe the Golden Throne is itself a torture device meant to slowly rend the very soul of its inhabitant apart?
Inquisition - "We need your help to fix our golden throne!"
Drukhari - "Um... Why did you put him in a giant torture device...?"
Inquisition - "A giant what???"
@@theemissary1313 knowing the Drukari just the thoight that they would help keep the Emperor in eternal torment would be payment enough 😂
Knowing them all they really added was a spiked dildo.
Chaplain Kazimir They will fix it so that Emps will be in further agony.
@@rexlumontad8078 as an imperial fist, that sounds like fun
This is really well done. The main reason(s) the Imperium would seek the help of the Dark Eldar (of all beings) instead of the Eldar (who helped resurrect Gulliman) is that the DE have a much greater access to Eldar tech. They also feel in souls... something the Eldar don't dare to do because they think it perverse. This is the main reason.
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We shall provide the hams
It's Kaldor*, filth.
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@Rex Lumontad Represent! We shall provide grammar correction!
StygianTraveler141 Indeed my good sir.
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Another amazing thought-provoking video.
Keep doing what you are all doing, amazing bodies of work.
Thank you to Yourself, Stephanie Swan Quills, Acid Amoeba and everyone who is involved.
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They should have asked/buyed help from the Necrons instead.
3:04 That is a book on a stick. Wow Tzeench demons are stupid.
On the subject of Golden throne, however - Dark eldar have retained more of the ancient Eldar Empire technology than Craftworld ones, since denizens of Commorragh were refugies from crown worlds, whereas craftworlders before the Fall were spacefaring gipsies.
Adeptus Notificanicus
We shall provide the views.
;)
I see what you did there.
YOU HERETIC!
The Adeptus Notificatus is on to your blasphemy, impostor!
*cue Inquisitors turning their doctrinal conflict into a systems-spanning war*
Another amazing vid, thank you. I havent even watched it yet and i know its amazing
The what?!
WITH WHAT?!
EXTERMINSTUS!
Denied.
Strategic value absolute.
Alternatives?
The Dark Eldar can be perhaps be blackmailed as well. The Throne holds closed a rift not only into the Warp, but also stabilizes a shattered portion of the Webway. The Throne fails? Well then Daemons flood into the Webway, and they would not only overrun Terra, but, using their now-unfettered access to the Webway, would very likely head directly for the Dark City itself; a prize that Slaanesh has coveted for millennia.
Given Drukhari dishonesty I'd rather hire an ork mek boy.
404BYTE WE FINK WE CAN FIX YOUR EMPEROR DA DEAL IZ WEN HE WAKES UP WE AZ A FIGHT.
And he would have quite a good chance of actually fixing it too :D
actually, the drukhari are incredibly honest. they'll keep their word to you...to the letter. they will just also happen to do some other stuff outside of that.
I mean, look at what happened with the T'au. they kept their word and defended the tau worlds they promised to protect. they just happened to do some other stuff beyond that.
@@luciussvartwulf6630 Exactly, Dark Eldar kept their word. The Tau never told them not to make grotesques.
The Emporer is reborn with a large metal jaw, power claw and spiky bits.
OMG I think I know what the dark eldar want to do! They probably want to create their own Golden Throne to close Khaine's gate once more!
The next phase of 8th ed will see a little know mate of bobby G from the mechanicum fix the throne.
Maybe they know what will if the emps die and want to prevent it make it happen?
The Throne was made to push the Emprah's grand plan (My son puts me in a chair to make me a God so I can kill Chaos Gods, eat the remnants(like what happened to the Eldar gods) and score Eldar Goddess booty Just as planned). It is a mere cocoon from which the Emprah can become a god
The best person to fix the golden throne/emperor as much as I would hate to say it would be Fabius Bile.
@@myfaceismyshield5963 yeah clone the emperor until we find a way to revive him
Yeah! My boy Fab! Although uh... So... I think Fab is awesome, for sure don't get me wrong... But letting him get a look at the Emperor's genetics... Uh... Even if you never planned on letting him leave alive, he's a fairly crafty fellow tbh.
How about we cultivate some orkz, indocrinate them into the Imperial Creed and then supply them with the best armor we can afford?
That would be the Emperor's Greenest.
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I love your videos thanks for all the hard work my friend!
i dont think the drukhari would betray the imperium in a way that would end the emperor/empire. i think the drukhari would know that this would birth another chaos god
The fact that they are able to kidnap a Custodes is kind of scary
I like 8E because this wasn't a TTS subplot. It just sounds like the beginning of one.
The carrion throne, an excellent read.
4000 psykers each day? I know the Impirium is vast but that's a ridiculously high number considering how rare psykers are. And warp travel is unreliable at best. What if one of the black ships arrives a day late to Terra?
Also imagine the potential lost here.
If just one in a thousand of those psykers would manage to become a Grey Knight that would be 1460 Grey Knights per year.
Basically the Golden Throne is consuming a legion worth of super astartes every century. (talking about Grey Knights not primaris)
its more 1 in 1 billion that become grey knights
@@BerzerkSquid Where is that statistic from?
Capture a load of Ork Mech bois, along with tonnes of Orks you convince to be loyal to the Emperor by promising them really cool weapons if they're loyal to the Emperor, and then have the residents of Terra cheer them on as they repair the Throne. The extra Ork mercenaries are just there to amplify the effect but by cheering on the Mech bois they'll be utterly convinced their thing will work, and because of that it will. Alternatively, get those Drukhari but use Orks to amplify the effect, or get your Mechanicus and psykers to get their shit together so that you can figure out how exactly Orks work and see if you can make some new kind of Ork which isn't obsessed with killing everything but still has that self-belief effect, then make more and more and then have them amplify the capability of the repairmen you get working on the Throne and then the capability of the Emprah himself.
11:35
Could the Emperor be remade entirely out of cyberdongs?
are legs just machines operated by tiny Grots?
Why not let it break, let big E revive have him fix it and sit back down?
Snorlaxx UnLucky there would be a massive warp rift on Terra itself and the Astronomican would go out, leaving the Imperium “in the dark” as far as long distance travel
Plus, it would take quite awhile for interstellar travel to happen. So before that can be re-established a second age of strife would happen.
How the Heck did I get here so Early?
Must be Xenos Trickery at it again...
Lol
TheMemphisxlr8 Yeah blame the Eldar
Great vid as always!
I'm not Rho.
@@40KTheories Yeah I'm an idiot but it doesn't change the fact that the video, as always was very well done.
Drukhari tech support with thick Indian accent "have you tried turning it off and then on again sir"
The technology behind the Talos Pain Engine and such seems like it would be related to the Golden Throne; mechanical engine fueled by human suffering; yet immune to the Warp’s influence.
Great video as always 40k Theories.
Could the Inquisition GET any more hypocritical? Also, NOBODY tell Gulliman about the 4000 souls thing; I think it'd be the last straw to finally push him over the edge.
That is roughly 4 trillion psykers since the Emperor was entered.
I’d sooner trust the Tau to help fix advanced technology but honestly they’d probably recommend just building a whole new stasis chamber
The should ask the *Necrons* for help.
Yeah! Who better to repair the Golden Throne and fight back the ruinous powers of Chaos
Good Work as always, They Can't be Trusted ,and Perhaps With the Fact that Drukhari Homeworld is Dying and Don't wanna Be Eaten But Slanesh, it's may Be Incentive ,who Knows,Time Will Tell 😎 !!!.
He probably found it in the gobi desert.
I was thinking Tibet
@@praise_kek340 Not a bad guess either.
@@MrCarnage117 makes sense for me because the Imperial palace is Tibet
@@praise_kek340 Really? I thought it was the himalayas (or are those in tibet?)
@@MrCarnage117 the entirety of Tibet is the Imperial palace
Something to mention is that the Dark Eldar are more technological advanced than their Craftworld kin. They retain more of their former empire's technology. So it's possible that the Craftworlds simply don't have the know-how, forcing the Inquisitors to go to Commoragh for aid.
How much more technologically advanced are they?
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 17%
@@some_shitposting_idiot3023 they have a lot of tech from the Ancient Eldar empire. However most of it they can no longer use most likely because the tech was made for psykers in mind. Something the Dark Eldar no longer possess
Great summary!
11:38 i can see this guy trying to defeat the justice league with a death ray
The Dark Eldar would help the Imperium for one simple reason.
Slannesh.
They know the Imperium are the only thing that can slow down Chaos and if they wake the Emperor of Mankind then the Chaos gods are going to be busy.
*Inquisitor walks into haemonculi laboratory*
Haemonculus singing: "Poor unfortunate souls, in pain... in need. This wants to repair the throne that one wants to save their lord and do I help them? Yes indeed."
This is the most brilliant comment on this video. Congratz.
Do the Drukhari not stand to benefit from the Emperor being around? While they may not like humans, they need them for their rituals. Also if the imperium fails does that allow chaos even more power? Feels like they would prefer to deal with humans than not.
Yes they are ultimately parasites and depend on humanities survival and prosperity in order to obtain its constant tithe of sacrificial captives. Another important factor for them is that of the Imperium falls there is no longer any distraction to occupy Chaos who will then proceed to assault the Dark City and claim the Drukhari souls for their own.
Yes Inquisitor, that's the video I told you about.
I love your videos and encounter them often while working, so you come on my autoplay a lot. Idk but I am jarred every time by the loud introduction, just me I suppose. You do a great job as a lore master, I'm just easily spooked i suppose.
Dark Eldar will keep their end of the bargain so long as you can ensure that doing what you tell them to will be more lucrative than stabbing you in the back
Orks will keep their end of the bargain so long as you can keep them from getting bored.
Neither are small feats.
“Planting spyware within the framework of the shack you call a palace was but a simple task.” ...sharp inhale... “slavesayswhat.”
-Urien Rakarth to the Star Child.
The custodian guard literally killed the heamonculi an instant before he was going to begin his big "how I did it" monolog too. Sux.
It is in the interest of the Dark Eldar to preserve the Emperor. Because if his psychic barrier fails and Chaos marines seize the golden throne. They will be able to use it to set up a base within the webway to stage an assault on the Drukhari and reach the Black Library.
2:05 - Ah, Spiky Tits. | It world explain how the Golden Throne functions...the Craftworlders are basically the gypsies / travellers of the Aeldari race, Drukari technology is more advanced. | 11:30 - It mostly works on Drukari, due to their connection to "She Who Thirsts". | What if Konrad Curze was found as he emerged from the crater that his arrival made on Nostramo?
I love the passages and narrators man it channels like these that make it actually enjoyable to fry my brain lol
Just pull the plug already and see what happens... We're screwed either way at this point. The emperor is both a shield and a crutch at this point to man, at some point we must walk on our own. Maybe with the plug pulled he could come again. Who knows but at some point all you can do is roll the dice. The imperium is in decay at this point...
The dark eldar come with a better amount of reliability so long as u've paid them well enough
Imagine the Emperor finally dying because some Drukhari spills their lube on the thrones circuits.
7:43 *thats the 40k equivalent of a dad joke*
Do you think that Blackstone could be used to seal the breach in the warp in the Imperial Palace?
12:17
"just a slither of their souls"
The soul of the dead person or of the homunculy?
There are only two kinds of fools who trust an Eldar. A dead fool and a fool soon to die.
Trusting the drukhari with literally anything is the dumbest thing you can do in the 40k universe short of exploring the abandoned caves in your free time on a tomb world
MAGNUS YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ONE
Can anyone tell me the name of the song used throughout the video?
I read that the Death Specters chapter master sits on a some sort of throne also.
dealing with the dark eldar is something that fucks with me. I'm surprised they didn't bother to ask the orks instead. Never mind the fact that they're the inquisition
Little late to the party but there might be another reason to ask the drukhari instead of craft world eldar:
The craft world eldar might consider helping humanity if it fits into their agenda. But the dark eldar are Masters of arts, which includes as far as I know mechanical stuff. Also they're the ones to seek for the absolute perfection of their art. The golden throne is a monument, an incredible machine. So it's easier to bargain with drukhari instead of the craft world eldar bc the drukhari are probably easier to bait with the possibility of working on such an amazing machine.
Poor Emperor, sitting on that Throne all day, unable to do anything
Fabius loves genetic engineering, Fabius is a worshipper of slannesh, Fabius loves pain, Fabius is a Space Marine Haemonculi confirmed!
Why don't they seek help from the Ynnari. They brought Guilleman back.
Because the Ynnari didn't exist yet at this point.
Because the Emperor is not dead so the Ynnari would have no effect on him.
@@lorgarbeareroftheword5836 Splitting hairs.
I like to think that Homunculus was killed by Kitten
what was the Emporor of Man's name? Dave? Bob? Reginald?
Ah, Commoragh... Most quality cyberdongs in the webway!
Drukhari can be bargained with if you know you have them by their balls. And no race is so close to being devoured by a chaos god as them, so with the right bargain they will do it for free if it somehow benefits them. For example the emperor somehow cutting Slaneshi link to the elves or something.