Get your Katana Gen 3 at Sweetwater (US) - sweetwater.sjv.io/AWvD7D Get your Katana Gen 3 at Thomann (EU) - thmn.to/thoprod/586436?offid=1&affid=288 Get your Katana Gen 3 at Andertons (UK) - elkqr.link/6yqpq Play along with the backing track - ruclips.net/video/RT_5aNbRbRY/видео.html
Good choice. I just bought a Catalyst 60 for half price. I get the feeling (because quite a few stores were selling them really cheaply) that Line 6 must be releasing a new Catalyst line. I haven't heard anything yet, but this was only a few weeks ago.
@@castleanthrax1833 I think the Version 2 Catalyst is already announced/released. They call it the Catalyst CX.(actually, that can be gotten with a firmware update for the previous catalyst too).
I feel with how inexpensive bluetooth technology is they should have just included it. Making it a separate dongle just seems like an add-on to increase margin. I'm not hating on the amps, I've actually been waiting for the Gen3 to come out so I can buy one the heads. Just saying it is a head scratching decision. I use the bluetooth feature of my Spark40 daily and will probably just continue to do so instead of buying the separate dongle from BOSS. Also, no tuner? While that's not a deal breaker for me, it seems like an odd exclusion when cheaper, but very much still great amps, come with these features. I feel like BOSS needs a User Experience Designer on the team. Hey BOSS, hit me up if you're watching. :)
Line 6 put a tuner on their Catalyst amps, and it's just 3 lights. Left one indicates flat, right is sharp, and the centre means you're in tune. It's not the greatest tuner, but it works if needed.
All of Katana's Direct competitors have Bluetooth as a Standard Feature. BOSS is now using the Apple Model. Frequently updating models and charging for accessories instead of including them or building them into the unit in this case with Bluetooth in the Katana Gen 3. I don't blame anyone for feeling shortchanged not having Bluetooth included when EVERY Katana competitor has BT. Total Head Scratcher
@@castleanthrax1833 In this day and age Bluetooth and Tuner should be standard in these type amps. Especially one's with in depth apps and computer software
I think Boss is hiring you to make these videos because you actually ARE are their user manual for the amp haha. Super informative, as you were with the Vintage and the MKII ones. Thanks!
One thing I appreciate about boss amps is they sound like boss amps. Yes they can model other sounds from other brands but they still have their unique strengths. I don't regret buying my 100w mk2 and it's hard to beat the price!
I ran my GX100 through my Artist mk2 and my 50 mk2 as a pseudo stack and I absolutely loved it. The bottom end of the Artist with the highs of the 50 made my rig sound huge.
@@stellar_cartographer The head with the little internal speaker was surprisingly handy. The tone from that internal speaker was undescribably bad though, but hey it's just used to check things are working/ get some practice in!
I have the Boss GX100 and an Eventide H90. I love the Boss amp models and their approach to modeling. I actually appreciate only having 20 or so models to choose from. Pick one and get to making music.
Upgrades over Gen 2 are slim and sad unless Andy forgot something. 1. One extra amp model 2. Stereo headphones jack instead of mono 3. Comes with phone app instead of buying the Librarian app 4. Boss will sell you a Bluetooth dongle instead of needing to buy a third party one on Amazon 5. USB C port instead of USB B - not sure if this is an upgrade since it's required by law now.
If you already own a katana, I can understand there might not be enough there to upgrade but I’m not sure you really need to. However, imagine a new young player coming into Guitar and being offered katana 50 gen 3. It’s absolutely mind blowing what you get for your money.
@@TheGuitarGeek For sure you get a ton of features for your money with Katanas. That's what makes them so popular. I am just a tad underwhelmed and think it's more like a Gen 2.1. But, like you said the new buyers should be very happy with Gen 3.
These will never be giant leaps unless they build a tube version. They will update every few years with incremental changes just like phones & tablets.
I don't think Boss wanted to build a compelling case to upgrade, more just raise the quality level to compete for new buyers. MkII was the main leap forward, but MkII is so good the rest will be incremental improvements.
This is by far the most informative video so far about the Katana Gen 3, thanks Andy! You‘ve got a very good rhythm of presenting information, it‘s never boring and never hectic. I’d really be interested in a direct sound comparison of MkII vs Gen3, for either model.
I like the sounds of these, but I think they're really losing me with all this app/bluetooth/etc stuff. I guess I'm old, but I just want to switch it on, twiddle some knobs, and play. I appreciate you pointing out the benefits for people like me.
Fantastic review Andy! I got the email from boss this morning and jumped right to your channel as I knew you would have a review ready to go. At first my heart sank, as I literally just purchased a mk2 50 watt that I just received 3 days ago. Thankfully after watching the review I don't see enough difference to return my 50 for the mk3. Possibly upgrade down the road, but I am content with what I have at the moment. Thank you for doing what you do and for the great reviews!
I just got the 100w head and the 2x12 cab and I absolutely love it. Both for bluesy cleans and growling heavy gain tones and everything in between. I find that for high gain I like it better than my fender tone master pro.
I have multiple amps, tube, solid state and digital, but I just picked up a Katana Go and it's pretty cool. I also have some Line 6 gear, so it's nice to hear and try the other big player in the digital amp realm. If I needed an amp, I would get the Katana 100, it makes the most sense in my mind, thanks for your informative breakdown, Andy.
Dang. All it needed was the tiny screen from the Katana go for the tuner and to show what effect is selected so you don't have to carry a crib sheet to see what effect "yellow" is. Such a missed opportunity. Also, have the dang controls closer to the front! You know, where the player is. I don't play behind or on top of my amp.
It's always a compromise. If they're on top, they're easy to see when the amp is on the floor. If the controls are on the front, they're more easily seen if the amp is on a stand. If I were to guess, I'd think more people have their amp on the floor.
@@iancurrie8844 I think they place them towards the back so they're away from the speaker. It saves having to raise the front panel when there's plenty of space available behind the speaker. It's only 3 or 4 inches.
@@castleanthrax1833 They place it towards the back because it's CHEAPER to make a single unit with the power input, transformer, outputs, etc all at the back. It costs more money to run a separate cable to a front panel which would contain a separate PCB for all the pots, encoders, LEDs, and buttons. It's 100% about cost. It's a bad design made in the name of cost savings.
Great video, Andy! Loved your playing, especially on the "Pushed" setting - that alone makes me consider an upgrade... Will there be a 100 EX...? Or an Artist, maybe. Or a Head. Damn, options.
It looks like this upgraded Gen 3 could have just as easily been a downloadable upgrade to the MK2 line. I'm surprised they don't sell a dongle to make the MK2 line bluetooth compatible through the usb input. Maybe something for some inventive type to start selling. Like I posted on Anderton's site, so far there's nothing that would make me go out and sell my MK2 100 W to get this new one.
Got to say I'm disappointed. The lack of built in Bluetooth app connectivity, when it's in the katana go, is a kick in the teeth. It would be £5 on the cost, they still have to manufacture the din socket and internals anyway. I feel like the Gen 3 was marketing realising they actually haven't taken much of a step forward, so had to come up with something to make it sound like more than it is.
Well, they specifically completely overhauled the sound engine, and I think you can clearly hear that, especially with the 100. Still have to save up for it though.
Got my 100 mkII two months ago and paid 328 EUR (in SEK equivalent). Thomann has the gen 3 at 527 EUR for me, which is an increase of about 60% which is quite a lot for the presented upgrades. I think the mkII will server me great for quite some time. I'd probably look at the artist version if I want to splash more money on an amp, or go Tonex with a Cab and pedals.
Cool video, thank Andy. As always you ROCK!!! I’m not sure if it’s worth upgrading from my trusted mk1. I was expecting slight visual changes. I know if it’s not broken don’t fix it. If I didn’t have mk1 I believe I’d have bought gen3 though. Thanks Andy
Seems decent for a first time buyer, but I see no reason to upgrade from the MKII series. Also, not including Bluetooth to Tone Studio/RUclips/Spotify is a huge face palm in 2024 imho. This technology is dirt cheap and standard in competitors from 3-4 years ago, so I don't buy the excuse of cutting costs for the customer. Hell, Bluetooth is standard in $20 kids headphones these days... Charging $60 USD for an adapter is just sad and half the price of a Katana:GO.
Been playing a Gen 1 100 watt, one twelve for four years in blues clubs. Straight off, I get what I want out of it. HOWEVER, I never use the 100 watt setting. It sounds shitty. I am always on 50 watts. It does not lose the fidelity and has plenty of volume without being mic'd.
Hi, Andy! Great channel, long-time viewer and first-time commenter here. I own a Mk2 Katana Artist combo. I bought it primarily for the Waza speaker to use as a cab for higher-end heads, but I do enjoy using the amp itself too. I mean, think about it -- for the price of a cab anywhere else, you're getting a great speaker... oh, and a great amp happens to be built in too! One thing I don't like about the Katana is that it sounds a bit thin or fizzy to me. While using the EQ through Tone Studio has helped quite a bit, I wish it was a little more balanced in tone. I would really love to see an A/B test of the Mk2 vs. Gen 3 tones, seeing as how you mention that these were redesigned from the ground up. If there really is a significant difference, I could be convinced to get the latest and greatest, but definitely need to hear the difference first. -- Is a Mk2/Gen3 comparison video something you can do for us? I really think your viewers would enjoy it!
Heard and own the mkII and have heard the gen 3 and still prefer the sound of the MkII and you still can only get the pathetic 2 button pedal for the 50. The biggest complaint about the Gen 3 50 is that they still didn't install a LOOPER WTF do they not listen to their customers?
The biggest question I'm seeing most people ask right now are, with the new voicing of the Gen 3, how does the previous MK2 100 compare to the Gen3 50. Many picked up the previous 100 not for the wattage but for the larger sound. Now that the Gen3 has been re-voiced for a 'richer' sound in general, can we now look at the 50?
There is Bluetooth, at least for the Artist line which tbh are the only ones I actually care about. Bought an Artist MK II a few months back but I may replace it sometime this year literally only bc of Bluetooth as I would like to play music on it as backing tracks or to play along with. Who knows maybe I’ll get a second Mk III for stereo expand.
I am really glad they added the Bluetooth dongle as an option. If you already have a GX-100 or Dual Cube LX (I have both) you can just swap the dongle without buying another one. AND then you should be able to also use the wireless expression pedal or FS-1-WL footswitch, right?
Boss made a HUGE mistake not including fx loop in the 50, it is very useful for loops and drum machines and I would rather buying two 50s for playing in stereo. Two 100s are too heavy to carry around
If you buy a katana buy the head and get a good cab. That makes the katana on a whole new level. Speakers are 90% of your tone. Believe me those speakers suck
If I would buy one, it would be neither of those. Katana 100 Head all the way for me. Had the MKII as bedroom amp (the internal speaker is fine for this) and always the option to plug in a speaker. Of course there are some downsides but none that matter for me personally. I don't gig.
So.. mk50III is a $70 increase over the gen 2 + $55 for bluetooth dongle = total of $125 (not including taxes)… For basically a software upgrade, a usb-c connection and bluetooth. Hard pass there Boss, do better.
I think, just get the 2x12, and learn how to drive. There's only a $100-200 difference in price, and it's still insanely cheap for what you get, and better value. You'll regret that you didn't just save a bit more and be better off long-term. Especially given that the Katana's in-built effects can run in true stereo, AND you can combine it with another 212 drone cab (I personally would have the sound tech mic each of them and pan them at a gig, with some kind of offset effect, or set them ether side of stage if they're not PA'd). It's not a volume thing - they just sound better. More depth.
Andy, do you know whether the Katana artist Mk II does have a headphone output? If not does the Mk III have one? Thanks in advance. Greetings from Austria!
Just found out the 100 head has a 5 inch speaker built in so you can use it as a desktop practice amp and then plug in a cab for the full show and it's only $19 USD more than a 50!
Doesn't matter if everyone does want bluetooth or not, if every other amp producer is adding it then you add it too. It's like saying not everyone wants a mid eq so we wont bother adding it. Or, they could add the bluetooth dongle (Which seems silly and easily lost) and drop the price to compensate for those that do want it. But again, its on the motherboard, why not just use it?
Does the Katana 50 Gen 3 cut through the mix and can be used for gigs? Or just home, studio and rehearsal? I'm looking for a small and good amp that I can use at home, studio and for gigs.
I don't plan on using pedals, so my only consideration for going with the 100 over the 50 would be the sound quality, not loudness. Would you say the 100 sounds significantly better to justify the price jump?
"go for the 50 if you already have a pedalboard full of effects" - that's terrible advice, I'm sorry. If you're in that boat, go for a different amp altogether because you're wasting money on all the built in effects. And if you REALLY want a Katana and you have a pile of effects already, the 50 has *no effects loop*, so that's an issue. Means you can only plug your effects into the front of the preamp, which isn't ideal.
Waiting for the gen 5, it comes with a dishwasher,sink and linguistics modal teacher who speaks in mixolydian,phrygian dominant, aeolian, and even lydian #4 amongst other fine harmonic modulations. But maybe I'll just end up buying the gen 3?? When will the Gen 6 come out?? Is there going to be a 7?? Does anyone know lmao??
the contour knob seems to be similar to the Blackstar ID Core series ISF knob. lol When I get a boss Katana it will be a used 50 watt combo or, if I have already built my custom vertical tower 4X12" cabs it will be just the head version. but then I already have an original release (V1) ID Core stereo 40 that sounds great but doesn't have nearly the number of effects that the Katana has but then the ID Core 40 is much cheaper new than even a used Katana. and i got mine used for less that $100 USD.
Made the mistake of not checking if my last practice amp had an effect loop. By the time I needed to use one it was too late to return the amp. Therefore the 100 for sure.
Not sure why it’s a positive that it doesn’t have a screen; something like the Katana Go screen would be helpful - not for deep editing but just to know what patch you’re on; I often get confused as to which patch I’m on with the random pressing of the top panel buttons. I’m also really disappointed they didn’t add an onboard looper, like the Dual Cube
Hey, Andy! Thanks for the comparison of these amps, they are more similar than I thought. From the MKII did you notice a lot of difference in sound between the 100 and the Artist? I am wanting a Katana for both recording at home and sometimes playing with the amp without the computer.
Thanks for putting this out. Sadly I see that they did not address the lack of a stereo line out nor left and right dual delays or an IR loader. I think it is a shame considering that the preamp tones on this amp are stellar and not just for the bedroom player but for anything else. Consider that Allan Holdsworth played a Yamaha DG amp and recorded his famous “Sixteen me of Tain” and other than the detailed delay work everything else can be replicated internally in the Katana which is crazy considering the price point.
@@TheGuitarGeek That is a good question and a tricky one too. Being that it is a question of repurposing the resources the software already has through design choices that are already available in other products Boss I am not sure a markup is necessary maybe with exception of being able to choose to keep the internal speaker going while coming out of the headphones/rec out jack which is stereo. This would likely require a physical switch which is a mark up. As for the rest you can already run two delay blocks but not as a left and right. Of course it would be better to do it inside a master delay block as in the GT1000 but the horsepower to run the effects is certainly there. The same goes for the IR loader even though I will admit that it is much better that what they had before. As for a mark up price if these issues can be solved purely from software I don’t see the need for a mark up but if a switch must be installed maybe what ever is the mark up for the Artist would be a reasonable compromise. On an unrelated note I really appreciate your gear reviews. You are always clear, direct and practical.
I'm surprised the 50 and 100 sounded so different. I have a 50MKII and love it except I find the speaker a bit harsh and needs Global EQ adjustment. I was planning to get 50III EX but maybe I should get the 100 instead. Hope the 50EX will be out for testing soon.
Ok Andy...now the question you didn't answer. You have played all of the Katana amps...Gen 1, 2, Artist, and now 3. Which one has the best sound in your opinion.
I am very dissapointed that Boss have not added dotted eighth and other delay and tremolo tempo sync options. I feel like if they would add that one feature the effects section would be complete. Is there someway we can communicate that request to Boss? I may be wrong but it seems like something a firmware update could add.
Get your Katana Gen 3 at Sweetwater (US) - sweetwater.sjv.io/AWvD7D
Get your Katana Gen 3 at Thomann (EU) - thmn.to/thoprod/586436?offid=1&affid=288
Get your Katana Gen 3 at Andertons (UK) - elkqr.link/6yqpq
Play along with the backing track - ruclips.net/video/RT_5aNbRbRY/видео.html
I wonder if Boss will update Gen 2 with any new software or are we just in the "just buy a new one" mode.
Also: BUT DOES IT HAVE USB-C?
great review! I like the 100 but can only afford the 50 hmmmmm
@@dredzik Yes it does
Also: Do you know if Katana Go will get the pushed channel as well?
excited for the upcoming Gen 4 release
I heard Gen 5 will be even better, so much better they'll call it MK V
cant wait for Gen 6 tho
Can't wait for Gen 9
@@stephen8779 Me too. I'll be dead.
@@stephen8779 we’ll be getting it before gta 6
Im just going to buy a mk2 100 model at a discounted price sorted 🤘🤘🤘❤️
Good choice. I just bought a Catalyst 60 for half price. I get the feeling (because quite a few stores were selling them really cheaply) that Line 6 must be releasing a new Catalyst line. I haven't heard anything yet, but this was only a few weeks ago.
@@castleanthrax1833 I think the Version 2 Catalyst is already announced/released.
They call it the Catalyst CX.(actually, that can be gotten with a firmware update for the previous catalyst too).
@@castleanthrax1833Line 6 Catalyst CX released a couple months ago. Update firmware to get CX new features.
Smart choice 👍
For just 20 bucks more, the features on the gen 3 100 are worth it. I just got one, and I'm very happy with it.
I feel with how inexpensive bluetooth technology is they should have just included it. Making it a separate dongle just seems like an add-on to increase margin. I'm not hating on the amps, I've actually been waiting for the Gen3 to come out so I can buy one the heads. Just saying it is a head scratching decision. I use the bluetooth feature of my Spark40 daily and will probably just continue to do so instead of buying the separate dongle from BOSS. Also, no tuner? While that's not a deal breaker for me, it seems like an odd exclusion when cheaper, but very much still great amps, come with these features. I feel like BOSS needs a User Experience Designer on the team. Hey BOSS, hit me up if you're watching. :)
Line 6 put a tuner on their Catalyst amps, and it's just 3 lights. Left one indicates flat, right is sharp, and the centre means you're in tune. It's not the greatest tuner, but it works if needed.
All of Katana's Direct competitors have Bluetooth as a Standard Feature. BOSS is now using the Apple Model. Frequently updating models and charging for accessories instead of including them or building them into the unit in this case with Bluetooth in the Katana Gen 3. I don't blame anyone for feeling shortchanged not having Bluetooth included when EVERY Katana competitor has BT. Total Head Scratcher
@JTB-- Line 6 didn't put Bluetooth into their Catalyst line... unless something has been newly released, of which I'm unaware.
@@castleanthrax1833 In this day and age Bluetooth and Tuner should be standard in these type amps. Especially one's with in depth apps and computer software
I agree bluetooth should not be a separate dongle. It's just stupid and excusing it because not everyone wants bluetooth is idiotic.
I think Boss is hiring you to make these videos because you actually ARE are their user manual for the amp haha. Super informative, as you were with the Vintage and the MKII ones. Thanks!
The Katana master! Top stuff, Andy!
Where can I buy the gen 3 katana 100 online in India?
@@_Saint_Michael_ probably just thomann
One thing I appreciate about boss amps is they sound like boss amps. Yes they can model other sounds from other brands but they still have their unique strengths. I don't regret buying my 100w mk2 and it's hard to beat the price!
I ran my GX100 through my Artist mk2 and my 50 mk2 as a pseudo stack and I absolutely loved it. The bottom end of the Artist with the highs of the 50 made my rig sound huge.
I bought my Gen. 1 Katana 50 in 2018 and it still works great.
Good job explaining the new amps. Thanks!!
Me too with the 100. Never bothered updating it either. Pete
@@ptrisonic same I still have mine, but since I got a sound card and a plugin, that's become my fav way.
Very accurate! I would also say if u have a band and want to gig I would go with the 100 ! 💯
Shit man is this when people start feeling old? I remember being so excited when the Katana Gen 1 came out.
E: The pushes setting sounds so damn good!
yeah.. 2016!!!!
For real, feels like yesterday I got the 100w head and the internal speaker blew my mind… then got the artist… where did the time go!
@@stellar_cartographer The head with the little internal speaker was surprisingly handy.
The tone from that internal speaker was undescribably bad though, but hey it's just used to check things are working/ get some practice in!
@@jasonhuang6332 yeah it was really nice for bedroom noodling or couch jam sessions
I only play at home and have the 50. It's absolutely the best single speaker combo amp I've had. It's a keeper.
Looks like I can save money and keep my Mk2 50.
I have the Boss GX100 and an Eventide H90. I love the Boss amp models and their approach to modeling. I actually appreciate only having 20 or so models to choose from. Pick one and get to making music.
Not to mention they sound and feel great to play!!!
I'm usually that way myself, but I'd be disappointed if the amp I wanted wasn't available, so I understand why they offer so many.
I use expand mode with katana 100 mk 2 and 100 mk 1. It was working very well.
Guitar gig is the best channel for me. Regards bro
Thanks !
Upgrades over Gen 2 are slim and sad unless Andy forgot something.
1. One extra amp model
2. Stereo headphones jack instead of mono
3. Comes with phone app instead of buying the Librarian app
4. Boss will sell you a Bluetooth dongle instead of needing to buy a third party one on Amazon
5. USB C port instead of USB B - not sure if this is an upgrade since it's required by law now.
If you already own a katana, I can understand there might not be enough there to upgrade but I’m not sure you really need to. However, imagine a new young player coming into Guitar and being offered katana 50 gen 3. It’s absolutely mind blowing what you get for your money.
@@TheGuitarGeek For sure you get a ton of features for your money with Katanas. That's what makes them so popular. I am just a tad underwhelmed and think it's more like a Gen 2.1. But, like you said the new buyers should be very happy with Gen 3.
I've never heard anyone complain about the name before. Very strange indeed.
These will never be giant leaps unless they build a tube version. They will update every few years with incremental changes just like phones & tablets.
I don't think Boss wanted to build a compelling case to upgrade, more just raise the quality level to compete for new buyers. MkII was the main leap forward, but MkII is so good the rest will be incremental improvements.
This is the first of your videos I’ve watched. Very insightful. Thanks.
This is by far the most informative video so far about the Katana Gen 3, thanks Andy!
You‘ve got a very good rhythm of presenting information, it‘s never boring and never hectic.
I’d really be interested in a direct sound comparison of MkII vs Gen3, for either model.
Thank you! I’ll bring that video to you soon!
I like having a external bluetooth adapter because bluetooth chips are notorious for going bad and it is possible to have upgrades in the future!
I did not know that. Do you have any examples of Bluetooth chips going bad?
@@castleanthrax1833 I'm listening this too.
Finally a stereo headphone out to send to the pa!!!
Looking forward to hearing about the 100W head!
I like the sounds of these, but I think they're really losing me with all this app/bluetooth/etc stuff. I guess I'm old, but I just want to switch it on, twiddle some knobs, and play. I appreciate you pointing out the benefits for people like me.
Couldn't agree more.
Fantastic review Andy! I got the email from boss this morning and jumped right to your channel as I knew you would have a review ready to go. At first my heart sank, as I literally just purchased a mk2 50 watt that I just received 3 days ago. Thankfully after watching the review I don't see enough difference to return my 50 for the mk3. Possibly upgrade down the road, but I am content with what I have at the moment. Thank you for doing what you do and for the great reviews!
oh great news! I agree that with people that own the MKii, there is not a very enticing reason to buy the new one but for newcomers, WOW!
Cheers Andy, loved the presentation, but now I'm intrigued 50 EX!
I just got the 100w head and the 2x12 cab and I absolutely love it. Both for bluesy cleans and growling heavy gain tones and everything in between. I find that for high gain I like it better than my fender tone master pro.
Thanks Andy for a great review, I have a collection of amps so went with your advice and ordered the 50.
You’re very welcome!
Looks nice. But I wish they had made it possible to stack overdrives.
I just ordered the 50. I have a small band forming with small amps/ I can mike it if needed for bigger clubs.
I have multiple amps, tube, solid state and digital, but I just picked up a Katana Go and it's pretty cool. I also have some Line 6 gear, so it's nice to hear and try the other big player in the digital amp realm. If I needed an amp, I would get the Katana 100, it makes the most sense in my mind, thanks for your informative breakdown, Andy.
Great video. Honest and helpful. Well done. I've always been a Boss fan.
Dang. All it needed was the tiny screen from the Katana go for the tuner and to show what effect is selected so you don't have to carry a crib sheet to see what effect "yellow" is. Such a missed opportunity. Also, have the dang controls closer to the front! You know, where the player is. I don't play behind or on top of my amp.
It's always a compromise. If they're on top, they're easy to see when the amp is on the floor. If the controls are on the front, they're more easily seen if the amp is on a stand. If I were to guess, I'd think more people have their amp on the floor.
@@castleanthrax1833 Right. So on top at the front is obviously the correct place.
@@iancurrie8844 I think they place them towards the back so they're away from the speaker. It saves having to raise the front panel when there's plenty of space available behind the speaker. It's only 3 or 4 inches.
@@castleanthrax1833 They place it towards the back because it's CHEAPER to make a single unit with the power input, transformer, outputs, etc all at the back. It costs more money to run a separate cable to a front panel which would contain a separate PCB for all the pots, encoders, LEDs, and buttons. It's 100% about cost. It's a bad design made in the name of cost savings.
@iancurrie8844 It works fine for me. Nothing bad about the design as far as I'm concerned.
Outstanding review. Very complete. Thanks.
Cool stuff Andy. Thanks for the info! Digging that pushed setting for sure. Much love buddy, be well ✌🏼
Well done man. Seriously great review of these and their differences. Love the moods of your reviews.
Great review! Will you be doing a comparison with Gen 3 Artist amps?
Great Vid as usual.. would love to see an Gen3 Artist vs Gen3 100 vid also!
Great video, Andy! Loved your playing, especially on the "Pushed" setting - that alone makes me consider an upgrade...
Will there be a 100 EX...? Or an Artist, maybe. Or a Head. Damn, options.
Thank you very much. Take alook at the links I posted and you’ll see the full range
It looks like this upgraded Gen 3 could have just as easily been a downloadable upgrade to the MK2 line. I'm surprised they don't sell a dongle to make the MK2 line bluetooth compatible through the usb input. Maybe something for some inventive type to start selling. Like I posted on Anderton's site, so far there's nothing that would make me go out and sell my MK2 100 W to get this new one.
You missed the extra amp setting.
Got to say I'm disappointed. The lack of built in Bluetooth app connectivity, when it's in the katana go, is a kick in the teeth. It would be £5 on the cost, they still have to manufacture the din socket and internals anyway. I feel like the Gen 3 was marketing realising they actually haven't taken much of a step forward, so had to come up with something to make it sound like more than it is.
Well, they specifically completely overhauled the sound engine, and I think you can clearly hear that, especially with the 100. Still have to save up for it though.
I agree.. now there is another dongle to forget at home. Just please put it in the cab, if we don’t want to use it, we will not press the button..
Got my 100 mkII two months ago and paid 328 EUR (in SEK equivalent). Thomann has the gen 3 at 527 EUR for me, which is an increase of about 60% which is quite a lot for the presented upgrades. I think the mkII will server me great for quite some time. I'd probably look at the artist version if I want to splash more money on an amp, or go Tonex with a Cab and pedals.
Cool video, thank Andy. As always you ROCK!!! I’m not sure if it’s worth upgrading from my trusted mk1. I was expecting slight visual changes.
I know if it’s not broken don’t fix it.
If I didn’t have mk1 I believe I’d have bought gen3 though.
Thanks Andy
Glad I could help! For existing katana owners, it is a tough choice but for newcomers, the value presented here is phenomenal!
I agree on both: great video and I also have a Mk-1 that is working great.... 🤔
I can’t wait for Gen 4!
Great review Andy! Thank you
Seems decent for a first time buyer, but I see no reason to upgrade from the MKII series. Also, not including Bluetooth to Tone Studio/RUclips/Spotify is a huge face palm in 2024 imho. This technology is dirt cheap and standard in competitors from 3-4 years ago, so I don't buy the excuse of cutting costs for the customer. Hell, Bluetooth is standard in $20 kids headphones these days... Charging $60 USD for an adapter is just sad and half the price of a Katana:GO.
Been playing a Gen 1 100 watt, one twelve for four years in blues clubs. Straight off, I get what I want out of it. HOWEVER, I never use the 100 watt setting. It sounds shitty. I am always on 50 watts. It does not lose the fidelity and has plenty of volume without being mic'd.
Hi, Andy! Great channel, long-time viewer and first-time commenter here.
I own a Mk2 Katana Artist combo. I bought it primarily for the Waza speaker to use as a cab for higher-end heads, but I do enjoy using the amp itself too. I mean, think about it -- for the price of a cab anywhere else, you're getting a great speaker... oh, and a great amp happens to be built in too!
One thing I don't like about the Katana is that it sounds a bit thin or fizzy to me. While using the EQ through Tone Studio has helped quite a bit, I wish it was a little more balanced in tone.
I would really love to see an A/B test of the Mk2 vs. Gen 3 tones, seeing as how you mention that these were redesigned from the ground up. If there really is a significant difference, I could be convinced to get the latest and greatest, but definitely need to hear the difference first. -- Is a Mk2/Gen3 comparison video something you can do for us? I really think your viewers would enjoy it!
Heard and own the mkII and have heard the gen 3 and still prefer the sound of the MkII and you still can only get the pathetic 2 button pedal for the 50. The biggest complaint about the Gen 3 50 is that they still didn't install a LOOPER WTF do they not listen to their customers?
The biggest question I'm seeing most people ask right now are, with the new voicing of the Gen 3, how does the previous MK2 100 compare to the Gen3 50. Many picked up the previous 100 not for the wattage but for the larger sound. Now that the Gen3 has been re-voiced for a 'richer' sound in general, can we now look at the 50?
Great pic of you on the 50EX page!
No bluetooth? I'll keep my MK2
There is Bluetooth, at least for the Artist line which tbh are the only ones I actually care about. Bought an Artist MK II a few months back but I may replace it sometime this year literally only bc of Bluetooth as I would like to play music on it as backing tracks or to play along with. Who knows maybe I’ll get a second Mk III for stereo expand.
broo serach for the standard gen 3 head not "artist" its cheaper and comes with bluetooth and also i tiny speaker integrated
There is Bluetooth... you just need to buy that doohickey to enable a connection.
I think for the first time since solid state was a reasonably new thing in guitar gear where stuff can become obsolete within a few years.
We need a solid state amp shootout video. Orange 35RT, Marshall MG30GFX, Katana 50III EX, etc. Let's do it! :)
Missed opportunity to make 50 able to use the big footswitch.
Marketing reasons
I am really glad they added the Bluetooth dongle as an option. If you already have a GX-100 or Dual Cube LX (I have both) you can just swap the dongle without buying another one. AND then you should be able to also use the wireless expression pedal or FS-1-WL footswitch, right?
I want to see the iii on the front cloth 👌🏻🌹
Great review. Thank you 🙏🏼 😊
I have the 50W MK2 EX , its an awesome sounding versatile amp that tote to gigs I also have the foot controller so I dont need to bring pedals
Boss made a HUGE mistake not including fx loop in the 50, it is very useful for loops and drum machines and I would rather buying two 50s for playing in stereo. Two 100s are too heavy to carry around
If you buy a katana buy the head and get a good cab. That makes the katana on a whole new level. Speakers are 90% of your tone. Believe me those speakers suck
If I would buy one, it would be neither of those. Katana 100 Head all the way for me. Had the MKII as bedroom amp (the internal speaker is fine for this) and always the option to plug in a speaker. Of course there are some downsides but none that matter for me personally. I don't gig.
Excellent breakdown.
Thank you Tom
I want a bass channel like this...
I wish i could play bass!
It would be really handy if Boss added a 9v dc output on the 100W to power a looper pedal, just sayin' Boss !
So.. mk50III is a $70 increase over the gen 2 + $55 for bluetooth dongle = total of $125 (not including taxes)… For basically a software upgrade, a usb-c connection and bluetooth. Hard pass there Boss, do better.
Basically and a pushed mode, which makes you almost have to upgrade because new patches won’t be compatible on old gens
Yes we do...we all want it for free. Like Fishman! I have both!
Awesome job. As usual.
Thank you! Cheers!
I think, just get the 2x12, and learn how to drive. There's only a $100-200 difference in price, and it's still insanely cheap for what you get, and better value. You'll regret that you didn't just save a bit more and be better off long-term. Especially given that the Katana's in-built effects can run in true stereo, AND you can combine it with another 212 drone cab (I personally would have the sound tech mic each of them and pan them at a gig, with some kind of offset effect, or set them ether side of stage if they're not PA'd). It's not a volume thing - they just sound better. More depth.
It would be nice if the 100 caster wheels.
I like your videos! Good job
Great review and a katana fan, but I will wait a bit longer for a mk3. I’m still
Happy with mk2.
I might just wait to grab the artist 100 gen3, if not, maybe the 100 gen3 will be my go to.
I think my mk2 will still be relevant enough.
I’m waiting for the white version otherwise I would buy one today !
Andy, do you know whether the Katana artist Mk II does have a headphone output? If not does the Mk III have one? Thanks in advance. Greetings from Austria!
Just found out the 100 head has a 5 inch speaker built in so you can use it as a desktop practice amp and then plug in a cab for the full show and it's only $19 USD more than a 50!
Doesn't matter if everyone does want bluetooth or not, if every other amp producer is adding it then you add it too. It's like saying not everyone wants a mid eq so we wont bother adding it. Or, they could add the bluetooth dongle (Which seems silly and easily lost) and drop the price to compensate for those that do want it. But again, its on the motherboard, why not just use it?
Seems like the Artist Series is where its at.
I just realized in the picture, your flipping a bird lmao 🤣 it took a quick minute..
Does the Katana 50 Gen 3 cut through the mix and can be used for gigs? Or just home, studio and rehearsal? I'm looking for a small and good amp that I can use at home, studio and for gigs.
Sir, you have a great video! I think about buying katana head. It would be nice, if you made a comparison between mark 2 and gen 3 in future!
It’s on its way!
I don't plan on using pedals, so my only consideration for going with the 100 over the 50 would be the sound quality, not loudness. Would you say the 100 sounds significantly better to justify the price jump?
"go for the 50 if you already have a pedalboard full of effects" - that's terrible advice, I'm sorry. If you're in that boat, go for a different amp altogether because you're wasting money on all the built in effects. And if you REALLY want a Katana and you have a pile of effects already, the 50 has *no effects loop*, so that's an issue. Means you can only plug your effects into the front of the preamp, which isn't ideal.
Waiting for the gen 5, it comes with a dishwasher,sink and linguistics modal teacher who speaks in mixolydian,phrygian dominant, aeolian, and even lydian #4 amongst other fine harmonic modulations. But maybe I'll just end up buying the gen 3?? When will the Gen 6 come out?? Is there going to be a 7?? Does anyone know lmao??
the contour knob seems to be similar to the Blackstar ID Core series ISF knob. lol When I get a boss Katana it will be a used 50 watt combo or, if I have already built my custom vertical tower 4X12" cabs it will be just the head version. but then I already have an original release (V1) ID Core stereo 40 that sounds great but doesn't have nearly the number of effects that the Katana has but then the ID Core 40 is much cheaper new than even a used Katana. and i got mine used for less that $100 USD.
Im waiting for the gen 3 artist...till then ill play my current artist katana...but cant wait to stereo expand
So... not even the 100/212 is stereo but only "expand-capable"???
Get the 50 and the Airstep KAT Footswitch ;)
Made the mistake of not checking if my last practice amp had an effect loop. By the time I needed to use one it was too late to return the amp.
Therefore the 100 for sure.
Not sure why it’s a positive that it doesn’t have a screen; something like the Katana Go screen would be helpful - not for deep editing but just to know what patch you’re on; I often get confused as to which patch I’m on with the random pressing of the top panel buttons.
I’m also really disappointed they didn’t add an onboard looper, like the Dual Cube
I wish they had moved the tap tempo button to somewhere more accessible. I don't have big hands and I struggle to use it with any accuracy.
Hey, Andy!
Thanks for the comparison of these amps, they are more similar than I thought. From the MKII did you notice a lot of difference in sound between the 100 and the Artist?
I am wanting a Katana for both recording at home and sometimes playing with the amp without the computer.
No line out and no send return on the 50?
Thanks, I will consider the Catalyst
bit of a letdown for sure, I would've been a buyer if they had even given it a facelift.
I discovered they already put the 50 ex on the line up, maybe I change idea. Maaaybe
@@filtermat I think there's also no FX loop on the 50 EX...
@@tostrmofo6686 That’s what he meant by “send return.”
@@tostrmofo6686 that’s true but 4 kg less and possibility to link with ga-fc is partially a pro
That stratocaster 😩😩😩
Thanks for putting this out. Sadly I see that they did not address the lack of a stereo line out nor left and right dual delays or an IR loader.
I think it is a shame considering that the preamp tones on this amp are stellar and not just for the bedroom player but for anything else. Consider that Allan Holdsworth played a Yamaha DG amp and recorded his famous “Sixteen me of Tain” and other than the detailed delay work everything else can be replicated internally in the Katana which is crazy considering the price point.
How much would you pay for the things you asked for? I’m curious if boss could do it for. A reasonable price
@@TheGuitarGeek That is a good question and a tricky one too. Being that it is a question of repurposing the resources the software already has through design choices that are already available in other products Boss I am not sure a markup is necessary maybe with exception of being able to choose to keep the internal speaker going while coming out of the headphones/rec out jack which is stereo. This would likely require a physical switch which is a mark up.
As for the rest you can already run two delay blocks but not as a left and right. Of course it would be better to do it inside a master delay block as in the GT1000 but the horsepower to run the effects is certainly there. The same goes for the IR loader even though I will admit that it is much better that what they had before.
As for a mark up price if these issues can be solved purely from software I don’t see the need for a mark up but if a switch must be installed maybe what ever is the mark up for the Artist would be a reasonable compromise.
On an unrelated note I really appreciate your gear reviews. You are always clear, direct and practical.
What is difference pf the ARTIST 100 VERSION GEN 3 compared TO the 100 gen 3 ???
Go for the Gen 3 100 and I think the APPability adds a comfortable feature. Sadly, the chances of flipping the Gen 1 100 on Reverb will be low....
Yes very low, local fb marketplace could sell cheap, worth upgrading 2 generations
I'm surprised the 50 and 100 sounded so different. I have a 50MKII and love it except I find the speaker a bit harsh and needs Global EQ adjustment. I was planning to get 50III EX but maybe I should get the 100 instead. Hope the 50EX will be out for testing soon.
Considering the price increase they should have just included the Bluetooth. The tech is not expensive.
Ok Andy...now the question you didn't answer. You have played all of the Katana amps...Gen 1, 2, Artist, and now 3. Which one has the best sound in your opinion.
I am very dissapointed that Boss have not added dotted eighth and other delay and tremolo tempo sync options. I feel like if they would add that one feature the effects section would be complete. Is there someway we can communicate that request to Boss? I may be wrong but it seems like something a firmware update could add.