I find it so hilarious that literally almost every conflict in this franchise could be solved by communication. Crazy how many people irl need to hear that too
@@DuelaDent52To be fair, Shen wouldn't have had to worry about being dethroned, if he didn't attack the pandas in the first place. I mean, he still might have been a conquering tyrant with the power of steel, but Po wouldn't have ended up in a radish basket.
What’s worse is that in both the first AND second movies, Po TRIED to talk the big bads down. He TRIED to bring the message home to both Tai Lung, saying that the secret of king fu is just being yourself, and Shen, saying that he can change his destiny by letting go of the past and stop trying so hard to forcibly change it, in hopes of getting them to just stop, but neither Tai Lung nor Shen listened. And it’s clear that by the third movie, Po’s given up on that strategy, because (at least based on memory) Po not ONCE tried to reason with Kai and take the peaceful approach. Which is so sad because most, if not ALL of the KFP villains became the way they were because of outside interference. They were never given a chance and Po at least TRYING to give them that chance made him a better protagonist and Dragon Warrior.
Lee's voice is really nice and im glad he's really brought his own style to Film Theory, it feels like it's a breath of fresh air for the least talked about of the channels ❤️
this is an issue for me ... i did not finish the video cox too soothing when playing background. had to replay a 2nd time...oh wait... could it be their strategy to have double the counts?
My sister introduced me to this channel like yesterday and I happened to have only watched the videos from years ago so I only know matpat so could u tell me what happened to him?
The way he found his way out of the editor dungeon and into writing and then into entirely hosting for a channel is actually amazing to me and shows that everyone can start somewhere and have potential to move up in life
I was rooting for the protagonist in this video who came out of their shell and vowed to continue the legacy of the predecessor.. who then proceeded to talk about kungfu panda
If you want to listen to more of him, he's done a ton of narrations for DidYouKnowGaming. Including their list of videos on game developers, like the late Satoru Iwata.
One of the reasons I got so into the theory channels is because MatPat's voice was just so good for background noise for my adhd brain. I was slightly worried the new hosts wouldn't match the same vibe for me, but so far, Lee and Tom have been awesome! MatPat made some great choices, and we're so lucky to have you guys as our new hosts
The "Everyone was Kung Fu Fighting" song was in the first movie, however, it was never used in the actual movie just the end credits so Lee is technically correct. THE BEST KIND OF CORRECT! Can't wait to see more of you Lee!!
but Tai Lung and Feng Huang both studied at the Jade Palace which means that Master Oogway was able to observe them change and become evil while Ding just like you said he was sent to an order of Monk's to train meaning Master Oogway didn't see him change and become evil
@@amjadm7730 but I never said that Tai Lung was evil. I only used the word evil because it was the word used in the video. To me Tai Lung is more of a broken glass, because his master made him believed in a destiny that was not his. ( FYI: think before you reply😊 )
@@amjadm7730he had greed in his heart, he followed this path on the vision of someone else, because is the only thing he ever knew. And so becomes a competition of just being better than anyone in exchange of being his true self…he was never able to control rejection, what if rejection came in his path as a dragon warrior, would he had taken his dissolution on the population as well?
And if somebody was "turning evil" before your eyes, and you're a wise powerful man, what should you do? That was the point of this video. Oogway chose violence in dealing with evil, and pushed them to become more evil, rather than showing kindness and patience and guidance to a better path.
As much as I love Matpat and will miss him, having each channel have it's one voice (literally) is AWESOME! I know people have already been humanizing the channels but this will make it so much fun XD
Viewing it from another angle, the masters' gatekeeping could be a way to test the student's capability of handling disappointment. It reminds me of how Willy Wonka told Charlie and Grandpa Joe they lost their chance to win a lifetime supply of chocolate because they stole the fizzy lifting drinks.
@@thomasjetzer2823 I think I agree here. What oogway was doing wasn't subtle, each thing he ignored/worsened was a life changing event. Maybe if he had been subtle about it.
@@jaidenmacon9675 yeah, instead of something they have done their whole life, just to have their hope crushed, and tbh Oogway might just be misguided, thinking what he's doing his best, and not trying to be malicious
I agree and fhis worked with Po. Po was told by everyone that he was a failure and could never be the dragon warrior. He chose to believe in himself and to take the right path.
Loving the introductions Tom (Game Theory) - You might be wondering why MatPat sounds British Lee (here) - Why did MatPat’s voice suddenly drop a couple of octaves?
Lee, SUCH a great job on your first theory as host! You did an amazing job, and I'm SO looking forward to hearing more from you! Thanks for keeping the channel going, we appreciate you!
Honestly? Lee did a GREAT job here! I love kind of his more subdued take on Matpat's formula and I think he really fits Film Theory as a whole. Can't wait for more episodes with him! Especially on darker series like whenever Man in the Suit comes back!
So basically, Oogway's Teaching is similar to the Jedi in the prequel films: Fear the dark side so much that even a sliver of it is unacceptable; to the point where redemption from the darkness isn't possible. And we all remember how well the Jedi Order went following that doctrine.
I’d disagree with that idea. If you watched the origins of the furious five stories and the story of the three masters - Oogway was never very similar to the Jedi at all. Especially for what he foresaw in Po during the first film. Po wasn’t treated the same way Anakin was. It’s even confirmed in the third film when Po reunited with him in the spirit realm. “A way to unite the past and the present- to begin anew”. Even foreshadowed when he talked to Po at the Peach tree.
lee could not have been a better fit! his voice is naturally soothing and he has the knowledge, the experience and the charisma! absolutely love it! i was super worried the new hosts would be degraded as they’re stepping into a huge role that’s packed with nostalgia but showing yourself as being part of that nostalgia that we all loved is the best way to own this! love it! 🤍
I mean, I never blame the guy for being angry. Imagine being over praised and told you’re going to do amazing things in life, only to be replaced by someone’s who never even dabbled in your field💀😭
can we all give this man a round of applause? Though he has Matpat's shoes to fill he's taking on the role so well. I welcome the new age of the theory channel and wish Matpat and his family many years of joy. looking forward to see the growth of the new voice of these channels.
The thing about lee is that he didn't even need to Explain all of his Contribution in this channel he had me at his intro! Good luck and more power to this Channel
But this doesen´t justify his first solo entry to be a aggalamation of misconstructions of what happens, or blatant lies (like the manipulative cut when Po speaks about the hoplesness of training the panda childs, and Oogway responds with pointing out Po`s hypocricy, THE EXACT same argument Lee then proceeds to make. but cuts out deliberately to manipulate).
looking back at his decision of Poe as the Dragon Warrior. It insulting considering his past decisions. Brings a whole new light on Master Shifou and the furious five's reactions
@@jeusmarcomascarina4102 I see.... The deadly sins are the real villains. Looking back for the main villains in the franchise, the trait for both Shen and Tai Lung is Wrath for being betrayed, and Kai is lust and even gluttony for power.
really solid first "non matpat" episode. Probably my favorite. Your VO voice is really good and compelling to listen to! I'll be honest, I was a bit worried about this transition. But this episode was like a classic film theory and I enjoyed it alot! Good job!
Before this I knew very little about Lee. But now, I see it. Matpat had four trials that you all embody in the best way. Just as oogway should have embraced the best traits of his students I see the best in you four. Tom: matpat analytical talent is matched by Tom if not slightly more Santi: matpats nature to experiment and get wierd with food in ways we never thought possible Amy: matpats charm and swagger as well as cheesy yet charming jokes And you lee:, you have his enthusiasm, his love for these franchises, you have the passion. When you make a theory it's because you love what it is you are theorizing so much. I will forever miss matpat, but I can rest easy knowing film theory is in great hands, and headed for a bright future with lee
Hey just wanted to say that on a personal note to Lee, your absolutely smashing it with your first official film theory episode. Matpat’s left some pretty big shoes to fill and I think what your doing is amazing! Mat should be very proud of who he’s chosen. I can’t wait to see what’s next and what you bring to the channel, I’m sure the next generation of younger theorists will be very lucky to have you as the next big iconic voice to their childhoods!
yep, matpat definitly left some big shoes to fill and in terms of not doing proper research and blatent dishonesty lee is definitly filling those shoes in this video
Im so proud that even now the theory community is so kind and not toxic i never comment but being here since the beginning i just want to say thank you to not just the channel but to everyone who post nice messages for me to read.
Hey, Lee, it was very nice to join you on your first time hosting Film Theory today! As I already said to Tom, and as I'm sure I'll reiterate to Amy and Santi later this week, it'll be odd for awhile as we adjust to MatPat no longer being around, but I've quite enjoyed your first theory, and look forward to joining you for many more on the future.
I'm very much enjoying this new era of Team Thoerist already. Making the show feel the same while clearly showing us that it will be a new chapter for the channel is great! Lee does such a good job of making us feel at home with this video, after 2 minutes I forgot I was even hearing a different voice. This feels good and while I will forever miss MatPat, I am happy to see this show grow and become something new without changing its identity 🖤
Lee is perfect. I honestly was most worried about him taking over because Film Theory is my favorite channel but I have 0 complaints. Way to go Lee!!!!!
10:53 Of course not! It's a short cut. And this will devalue the skill that has been honed for decades, which will eventually lead to the extinction of kung fu.
Oogway tried to be the light to his old partner Kai's darkness, but he met his dark destiny on the path he took to avoid it. His secrets created the very threats he sought to prevent, his training created the dangers his students must face, and his legacy is just as damaging as Kai's if not more so.
Holy smokes, Lee has a really good narrator voice! I somehow didn't realize until now?? I didn't get a good read on him beforehand so I was kinda doubtful how he'd do as a channel host, but I'd listen to this buttery smooth voice alll day 👀
Dear Lee, as one the the longests members of Team Theorist I am so happy for you to finally be the new host of Film Theory. Your hard work for the Theorist channels haven't gone unnoticed and I am so excited for what you have in store for us. More power to you! Kung Fu Panda is my favorite movie franchise of all time and I am THRILLED that you covered this. Loved watching this so much and hearing your take on the story and I am excited for all of your future episodes! Thank you for everything!
At first, I was upset 😢 MatPat left the channel and I understand he's a busy man and father now but I went into this episode with some skepticism and within two minutes Lee won me over. Good job, my dude, I feel Film Theory is in good hands now
Valid, and if anyone reads i apologize for yapping. But SMALL OBJECTION. The majority of oogways teachings about gatekeeping kungfu and constantly denying his students their rightful places was the only method of finding the dragon warrior. Po is different from almost all other characters in the show because he had the self esteem equivalent to that off a lonely high schooler. Oogway gave him a bit of praise claiming he was gonna be the dragon warrior, and after that everyone started to hate Po. He was new, never trained before and completely unqualified. The thing was, that Po never succumed to the insults or the humblings. Like he once said getting beat up, or teased, or anything else like that could never be as bad, as what it was like just being himself. And thats why not just anyone can believe in themself and become the dragon warrior. All the other candidates actually thought they could, but Po was just grateful for the opportunity to at least for a little while pretend like he was actually worth something. His evolution into the dragon warrior came into play when his sense of duty to protect the valley, his home overcame any other anxiety or self doubt he felt, because for him failure was simply unacceptable. Or maybe im wrong idk, you're doing great man keep up the vids
Y'know, while MatPat's voice is what I'm used to, Lee's voice is much gentler. Like listening to theories at a calm yet warm hearth, compared to MatPat's excited and blazing campfire. I'm looking forward to hearing more.
This was an absolutely amazing theory for your first one, I can tell you learned a lot in your 10 years of editing for Matpat. I’ll happily continue watching with you as the host, keep up the amazing work ❤️
I was introduced to game theory when I was in middle school by a friend.. I’ve been here though all the new channels and now I’m 25 married with 2 kids. Definitely sucks seeing Mat go but it makes sense- dudes going out when everything is doing good which is smart and now I’m sitting here on my break at work and here I am 17:23 minutes later and Lee, you got this I don’t really comment on anything but I’ll gladly do it if there’s a chance you see this and know that I can speak for the couple dozen people I know who watch everything the theorist put out and have for the last decade- naturally we were worried but good to know film theory has a very promising host🙏 amazing video
The quote was cut short. It is actually "Noodles? Don't Noodles" Meaning it's more of a "who knows what the correct choice is, or even if there is one" lesson. Cutting it short to make it sound like gibberish was very disingenuos.
The arguments stated were communicated very well & he gave plenty of examples of very important characters in the Kung Fu panda franchise. I was surprised that he didn't mention Kung Fu Panda's major plot point concerning the fact that Oogway never told anyone about Kai the collector's legacy, even though they were very close friends at one point or how Peng turned away from darkness. Very good theory & personal introduction!
The video is filled with either misconstructions of what happens, or blatant lies (like the manipulative cut when Po speaks about the hoplesness of training the panda childs, and Uugway responds with pointing out Po`s hypocricy THE EXACT same argument Lee the nproceeds to make. but cuts out).
@@eldinoor7072I mean, for the instances where Lee is using the footage of the show in a manipulative way I rely on Raven, because I don´t know the show. But for blatant and obvious misconstructions I am very much capable to reach independently to conslucions which are similar to Raven.
@@lemonhead1571Best to watch the respons video from Raven Knight, since then you have the instances concise and with video material in the manipulative cases.
Lee's presentation while delivering theories is so good, sounds like he has tons of voice over experience and while being paired with some great writing, this episode kept me engaged through the whole video. Great job, and I am excited for the future of Film Theory!
Honestly if I find out my mentor created a me-shaped iron coffin, that'd be more than enough to kick off my villain origin story 🥴 You did a great job with this theory, Lee! Can't wait to see everything you've got planned down the line. 👏👏
sorry but no he didnt, well the theory was just wrong and could easily be debunked. the scroll doesn't "make" someone the dragon warrior it only guides the true/fated one (exemplified by the trees and peaches monologue). if one wasn't the fated dragon warrior one wouldn't undertand, it which no one but poo did, nor shifu nor tai lung. oogway knew that, that tai lung wouldn't understand/accept it, the scroll, which he didn't even after the true dragon warrior (poo) explained it, --> tai lung was Never and could never be the dragon warrior and it was actually shifus fault for forcing tai lung to become something he wasn't meant to become.
Wonderful theory Lee! Good job on your first episode, waiting on more cool theories from you! ♥ I just have a little bit of arguments about this theory: 1. Your first example of why Master Oogway is evil was that he discouraged Tai Lung saying he wasn't the Dragon Warrior, causing him to go mad and become the bad guy in the first movie. This is a good argument but my counter-argument is that it's mostly Shifu's fault. If it weren't for him telling Tai Lung that he WILL be the Dragon Warrior and coming up with all those stories about him being Dragon Warrior, it wouldn't have made Tai Lung so motivated. If Shifu told Tai Lung he has strong chances to become the Dragon Warrior but also include the fact that he might not become it either, then it wouldn't have caused such a bad influence on Tai Lung's emotional state when he was told he isn't going to be the Dragon Warrior. Knowing the fact that he still had the possibility not making it into Dragon Warrior could've lessened the tear of his emotions, could've still made him push for the best, and possibly not have him as the bad guy of the first movie. The part where you mentioned the fact that Shifu didn't comfort Tai Lung after being told he didn't get Dragon Warrior would've made things much better for their father+son / mentor+student relationship much better. Not just one moment of discouragement and then boom the whole relationship was just gone. 2. Your second example of why Master Oogway is evil was that he was quick to judge Fend Huang and encaged her. My counter-argument is that it's not fully Master Oogway's fault. My prediction is that Master Oogway only refused to battle her because it was his destiny to rule the Jade Palace and it's Shifu to take the role when Master Oogway dies, and potentially making Po the ruler of the Jade Palace when Shifu dies too. This could mean that it's destined that there is already a line of rulers for the Jade Palace. Feng Huang is not one of them and Master Oogway knows it. Though locking her up in a cage is agreeably messed up. 3. Your third example of why Master Oogway is evil was that he didn't appreciate the fact that Taotie had made the machine to help him do the Kung Fu for him and say that it defeats the purity of Kung Fu. I partially agree to the statement of defeating the purity of Kung Fu but I think it would’ve probably caused more danger to the Valley. When there is a robot doing Kung Fu and it successfully defeats every enemy that crosses its path then I doubt no one is going to do something about it. I doubt no one is either going to try and destroy it or replicate it and make copies of it for their own and defeat Master Oogway, Shifu, and Taotie. 4. Your fourth example of why Master Oogway is evil was that his legacy influenced his successful students to adopt his negative traits. I think that it’s not really the case here. I feel like everyone would act like this in a similar position. When you are being trained by the master you are accepting the fact that there is someone that is teaching something that they worked hard to learn and that whatever you think is correct is probably not. But when you are the one that’s the master you would say that everyone is wrong and you are correct because you’re the one that knows more. I think I’m done yapping but I’m just throwing out my thoughts. I didn’t say all this to talk bad about you or anything like that. I just wanted to express my thoughts. Anyways I hope you have a good rest of your day!
@UTTPNewEnglandPatriots who asked, + if you want people to look at your content, you should try being nice and kind to people. After all, more people are likely to follow good people
Incredible choice by Lee to make his first film theory a classic “your favorite character is actually evil” theory
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Exactly what I was thinking. Classic Film Theorist video with the good guy is actually bad
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A theorist staple
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I find it so hilarious that literally almost every conflict in this franchise could be solved by communication. Crazy how many people irl need to hear that too
Ehhhh, I don’t think folks like Kai or Shen were willing to listen.
@@DuelaDent52To be fair, Shen wouldn't have had to worry about being dethroned, if he didn't attack the pandas in the first place.
I mean, he still might have been a conquering tyrant with the power of steel, but Po wouldn't have ended up in a radish basket.
True
As TVTropes would say: "Poor Communication Kills"
What’s worse is that in both the first AND second movies, Po TRIED to talk the big bads down. He TRIED to bring the message home to both Tai Lung, saying that the secret of king fu is just being yourself, and Shen, saying that he can change his destiny by letting go of the past and stop trying so hard to forcibly change it, in hopes of getting them to just stop, but neither Tai Lung nor Shen listened. And it’s clear that by the third movie, Po’s given up on that strategy, because (at least based on memory) Po not ONCE tried to reason with Kai and take the peaceful approach. Which is so sad because most, if not ALL of the KFP villains became the way they were because of outside interference. They were never given a chance and Po at least TRYING to give them that chance made him a better protagonist and Dragon Warrior.
I love that you didn't try mimicking MatPat's voice over style, but embraced your own originality. Excited to see see more!!
It sounds the same though
Fr all the other channels are doing a Mat pat impression. They’re cool tho
Matpat earned cash and checked out.
@@Karl.Jayce-DE actually no his channel is still getting the same amount of views
@@Karl.Jayce-DE people watch his channel for the theories not for him
Lee's voice is really nice and im glad he's really brought his own style to Film Theory, it feels like it's a breath of fresh air for the least talked about of the channels ❤️
Film theory was my introduction to mar pat and is arguably the best and my favorite
Is matpat❤ coming back
hes voice and face are horrible! firmly disagree!
I gotta say, I love Lee's voice. Its so soothing. I feel like he could read me a bedtime story and id go to sleep so fast
this is an issue for me ... i did not finish the video cox too soothing when playing background. had to replay a 2nd time...oh wait... could it be their strategy to have double the counts?
@UTTPisBetterThanDannoCalI swear if I see you one more time Iam done
Report him for spam
@UTTPisBetterThanDannoCalnobody loves you :3
I also agree, I'm sold to watch him another 10 years!
1 theory in and he's already ruining our childhood! Matpat found a worthy successor!
HAHA 😭
The comment i was looking for 😂
I know, right?
W comment actually made me laugh🤣
My sister introduced me to this channel like yesterday and I happened to have only watched the videos from years ago so I only know matpat so could u tell me what happened to him?
"I own four swords," is the best introduction you could have given. Thank you for taking up the mantle in our time of need.
RIGHT?? Like, actually iconic intro; I love him already and I’m not even done the episode /gen/pos
@UTTPNewEnglandPatriots an you Shut up!?
I did think Lee was going to be a good host, but when I heard that I immediately changed my mind /j
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10/10 introduction
A pleasure to meet you, Lee, quite a pleasure.
Yall did a fantastic job, no drop in quality, just a different voice. I'm here to stay for another 10 years!
Apparently, so are the bots! 😂
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@@melanieackard7736seems like it
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Yeah he’s good to (:
Lee starting with the "the good guy was the bad guy" is so lovely,im so excited for what will come up next and what he'll bring,Welcome
Didn't see that angle but it's so true :)
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It’s a entertainment theory thing mat pat did it too
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@@JacobTomkins-hw8vh yah i know
I think its kinda cool that the first episodes of all the new theorist are premiering so everyone can watch their first episodes
Yeah I think so too
Not coom
Plus they're all coming out on different days so we get used to each new host on their own rather than being bombed with them all at once.
yeah! it's really fun
Yeah
Having Lee now feels so new yet not so different, is very comforting, really loving it!
The way he found his way out of the editor dungeon and into writing and then into entirely hosting for a channel is actually amazing to me and shows that everyone can start somewhere and have potential to move up in life
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@OFFICERturkiye you forgot the "= I am lying and I am a bot"
I was rooting for the protagonist in this video who came out of their shell and vowed to continue the legacy of the predecessor.. who then proceeded to talk about kungfu panda
I did not expect Lee's voice to be so... weirdly comforting to listen to. Inner peace achieved lol
If you want to listen to more of him, he's done a ton of narrations for DidYouKnowGaming. Including their list of videos on game developers, like the late Satoru Iwata.
That just gave me an idea... I'll have to wait 'till all the new theories come out, tho
@Ch1oe2472 I KNEW HIS VOICE SOUNDED FAMILIAR!! Thanks for pointing it out cause its been itching the back of my mind for a while
Ikr?? His voice is honestly slightly more comfortable than matpat's
Like it’s so calm
One of the reasons I got so into the theory channels is because MatPat's voice was just so good for background noise for my adhd brain. I was slightly worried the new hosts wouldn't match the same vibe for me, but so far, Lee and Tom have been awesome! MatPat made some great choices, and we're so lucky to have you guys as our new hosts
I used to fall asleep to Matt Pat
Same I still listen to old food theory videos every night@@Shortsxxxxx
Hopefully Santi and Amy will be good too!
@@Shortsxxxxx 🤨asmr
MatPat's voice gave me dopamine...
How to ruin someone’s childhood 101
It’s like telling a kid that not all cops are good
Honestly, it's kind of refreshing to hear different voices on all the channels now. Lee has a very nice voice too!
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I agree, i love it
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I love how Lee tried to comfort us after the introduction, the change does hit hard
I know it does hit different
@UTTPNewEnglandPatriots Shut.
They don't just throw into the new person which we had time to realize that but its nice to see
jesus christ shut up why does everyone act like matpat died
@nonfungable3541 dude they did this with technoblade as well. These people are just bots
The "Everyone was Kung Fu Fighting" song was in the first movie, however, it was never used in the actual movie just the end credits so Lee is technically correct. THE BEST KIND OF CORRECT! Can't wait to see more of you Lee!!
Was literally about to comment this! Thank you!!
@UTTPNewEnglandPatriotsyou cared to reply
@@smb1403ait's a bot
*his Nokia phone rings*
@@smb1403a Don’t give it attention
but Tai Lung and Feng Huang both studied at the Jade Palace which means that Master Oogway was able to observe them change and become evil while Ding just like you said he was sent to an order of Monk's to train meaning Master Oogway didn't see him change and become evil
Plz describe " turning evil". How was tailung evil before being rejected.....think before you comment somthing man.
@@amjadm7730 but I never said that Tai Lung was evil. I only used the word evil because it was the word used in the video. To me Tai Lung is more of a broken glass, because his master made him believed in a destiny that was not his. ( FYI: think before you reply😊 )
@@amjadm7730he had greed in his heart, he followed this path on the vision of someone else, because is the only thing he ever knew. And so becomes a competition of just being better than anyone in exchange of being his true self…he was never able to control rejection, what if rejection came in his path as a dragon warrior, would he had taken his dissolution on the population as well?
And if somebody was "turning evil" before your eyes, and you're a wise powerful man, what should you do? That was the point of this video. Oogway chose violence in dealing with evil, and pushed them to become more evil, rather than showing kindness and patience and guidance to a better path.
Hmm maybe oogway lied about seeing darkness in their hearts
As much as I love Matpat and will miss him, having each channel have it's one voice (literally) is AWESOME! I know people have already been humanizing the channels but this will make it so much fun XD
Imagree!
What a way to start with the classic. The good guy is the bad guy.
@UTTPWorldPolicetry not to be npc level:impossible
I’ve seen this formula in theories before, it’s quite entertaining. Really enjoyed this one! May not be true but it’s an interesting take!✨
@@LeoSinha-r6j dont interacting with them man theyre just spamming replies to farm engagement
Still wrong, so what else is new?
Ah yes the classic theory formula
Viewing it from another angle, the masters' gatekeeping could be a way to test the student's capability of handling disappointment. It reminds me of how Willy Wonka told Charlie and Grandpa Joe they lost their chance to win a lifetime supply of chocolate because they stole the fizzy lifting drinks.
@UTTPNewEnglandPatriotsok
@@thomasjetzer2823 I think I agree here. What oogway was doing wasn't subtle, each thing he ignored/worsened was a life changing event. Maybe if he had been subtle about it.
@@jaidenmacon9675 yeah, instead of something they have done their whole life, just to have their hope crushed, and tbh Oogway might just be misguided, thinking what he's doing his best, and not trying to be malicious
I agree and fhis worked with Po. Po was told by everyone that he was a failure and could never be the dragon warrior. He chose to believe in himself and to take the right path.
But that's just a theory...@UTTPNewEnglandPatriots
I really didn't expect that Lee's voice will work so well with the video format
This feels very vintage "ruining your childhood" film theory i love it
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@@Dont_Read_My_Pictureyou might have rickrolled me before but this time I ain't falling for it
Loving the introductions
Tom (Game Theory) - You might be wondering why MatPat sounds British
Lee (here) - Why did MatPat’s voice suddenly drop a couple of octaves?
i asked and what about it?@UTTPNewEnglandPatriots
Can't wait for the rest!
Santi - Why does MatPat sound like he’s gargling something?
Style theory: why does matpat sound like a woman?
Don't read my name
Lee may not be Matthew, but he’s a good theorist and a great replacement.
Edit: Get these goofy ahh bots outta here!
Don't translate.
भवतः हृदयस्य धड़कनं कतिपयेषु घण्टेषु स्थगयिष्यति, अस्य शापस्य मुक्तिं प्राप्तुं एकमात्रं मार्गं मम चैनलस्य सदस्यतां कुर्वन्तु
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Holy mother of god
You have literally got one RUclips poop video, the film theorists are better.@UTTPNewEnglandPatriots
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Lee, SUCH a great job on your first theory as host! You did an amazing job, and I'm SO looking forward to hearing more from you! Thanks for keeping the channel going, we appreciate you!
Welcome to the channel Lee, feels fitting to start with a classic "Hero is actually the villain" theory
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Honestly? Lee did a GREAT job here! I love kind of his more subdued take on Matpat's formula and I think he really fits Film Theory as a whole. Can't wait for more episodes with him! Especially on darker series like whenever Man in the Suit comes back!
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16:59 same amount of power as Matt’s voice. Well done Lee
The rook SLAMS into the enemy king and COMES all over him, delivering a spectacular CHECKMATE.
Fr dude 🤟
Lee has such a great voice and writing style I’m super excited for the future of film theory!
So basically, Oogway's Teaching is similar to the Jedi in the prequel films: Fear the dark side so much that even a sliver of it is unacceptable; to the point where redemption from the darkness isn't possible.
And we all remember how well the Jedi Order went following that doctrine.
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Does it say so in the novels? Because this overly radical doctrine doesn't add up to the movies.
@@lightborn9071From what I heard... its even worse.
I’d disagree with that idea. If you watched the origins of the furious five stories and the story of the three masters - Oogway was never very similar to the Jedi at all. Especially for what he foresaw in Po during the first film. Po wasn’t treated the same way Anakin was. It’s even confirmed in the third film when Po reunited with him in the spirit realm. “A way to unite the past and the present- to begin anew”. Even foreshadowed when he talked to Po at the Peach tree.
lee could not have been a better fit! his voice is naturally soothing and he has the knowledge, the experience and the charisma! absolutely love it! i was super worried the new hosts would be degraded as they’re stepping into a huge role that’s packed with nostalgia but showing yourself as being part of that nostalgia that we all loved is the best way to own this! love it! 🤍
I'm sold for lee
Kung Fu Panda 4 had such poor marketing. I've seen people say they didn't even know it came out.
@UTTPNewEnglandPatriotsbro shut up
I didn’t know it came out either. It’s ridiculous, I thought it was delayed. Instead they just start saying “now in theaters”.
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The meme at 1:30 is so much more true after the GTLive stream today. We miss you already, MatPat!
Oogway: You are special just as you are.
Taotie: Even me, master?
Oogway: Ew. No.
"Tai lung probably would've been a pretty chill dude!"
Given how he is during his little screen time for KFP4, yes
Po and tai lung could have been the best duos
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I mean, I never blame the guy for being angry. Imagine being over praised and told you’re going to do amazing things in life, only to be replaced by someone’s who never even dabbled in your field💀😭
Exactly, I've never seen Tai Lung that chill before. I was surprised when I watched it in the cinema.
And yet he turn evil and commit assault and battery because Oogway said no to him/rejected him?
Obviously nobody can truly replace MatPat, but after seeing this episode I think the channel is in good hands
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Why can't he be replaced lol? He's just a person
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@IJAVA2what the
I am so happy that these still feel like the old theories
I love Lee already 😭 He just sounds so sweet and kind... Can't wait for more of you, Lee! 💕
Right I can’t wait to see more videos from Lee
Plus matpat will always be missed
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12:30 I genuinely cried as a kid when I saw Tigress so sad in this scene
Understandable
can we all give this man a round of applause? Though he has Matpat's shoes to fill he's taking on the role so well. I welcome the new age of the theory channel and wish Matpat and his family many years of joy. looking forward to see the growth of the new voice of these channels.
Im sad that its no longer matpat voice but still happy at the same time thats the channel is still going
The thing about lee is that he didn't even need to Explain all of his Contribution in this channel he had me at his intro! Good luck and more power to this Channel
But this doesen´t justify his first solo entry to be a aggalamation of misconstructions of what happens, or blatant lies (like the manipulative cut when Po speaks about the hoplesness of training the panda childs, and Oogway responds with pointing out Po`s hypocricy, THE EXACT same argument Lee then proceeds to make. but cuts out deliberately to manipulate).
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@@anonymussicarius8899 Chill! It's Just a theory dude! A Film theory.
looking back at his decision of Poe as the Dragon Warrior. It insulting considering his past decisions. Brings a whole new light on Master Shifou and the furious five's reactions
Maybe Jealousy is all along evil that of Kung Fu panda never defeat or realize they trying to fight.
*Po
@@jeusmarcomascarina4102 I see.... The deadly sins are the real villains. Looking back for the main villains in the franchise, the trait for both Shen and Tai Lung is Wrath for being betrayed, and Kai is lust and even gluttony for power.
if oogway is THIS bad then I doubt that even kai is evil but idk
Well Oogway didn't plan on choosing Po he just took it as a sign
“Kung Fu Fighting” is used in the end credits of the first film and has a music video in the Special Features.
I knew I wasn't crazy
Was looking for this comment lol
@IJAVA2 please stop. that is Lee we are talking about. Not MatPat
Without yang (Light/Oogway) there is no Yin (Darkness/Villians.) Without Yin and yang, there is no life.
I appreciate each channel doing a handover bit at the beginning of their inaugural releases - very excited to see where each channel goes from here
Same here
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You can really tell that Lee is passionate about this topic and thats exactly what I wanted to see! Im very excited to see where he takes the channel!
Your voice is so smooth and makes great background noise! Welcome to the channel Lee! Can’t wait to see more!
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@@Dont_Read_My_PictureI read your name.
really solid first "non matpat" episode. Probably my favorite. Your VO voice is really good and compelling to listen to! I'll be honest, I was a bit worried about this transition. But this episode was like a classic film theory and I enjoyed it alot! Good job!
As a long time fan, this channel is in the right hands
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@UTTPNewEnglandPatriotsbut not your hands
"Oogway doesn't have favourites "
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Lee popped off for his first theory! I'm so here for this and am super excited for what you do next!
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Love Wallace Shawn... "THOSE ARE THE SHRIEKING EELS"
Before this I knew very little about Lee. But now, I see it. Matpat had four trials that you all embody in the best way. Just as oogway should have embraced the best traits of his students I see the best in you four.
Tom: matpat analytical talent is matched by Tom if not slightly more
Santi: matpats nature to experiment and get wierd with food in ways we never thought possible
Amy: matpats charm and swagger as well as cheesy yet charming jokes
And you lee:, you have his enthusiasm, his love for these franchises, you have the passion. When you make a theory it's because you love what it is you are theorizing so much. I will forever miss matpat, but I can rest easy knowing film theory is in great hands, and headed for a bright future with lee
Hey just wanted to say that on a personal note to Lee, your absolutely smashing it with your first official film theory episode. Matpat’s left some pretty big shoes to fill and I think what your doing is amazing! Mat should be very proud of who he’s chosen. I can’t wait to see what’s next and what you bring to the channel, I’m sure the next generation of younger theorists will be very lucky to have you as the next big iconic voice to their childhoods!
yep, matpat definitly left some big shoes to fill and in terms of not doing proper research and blatent dishonesty lee is definitly filling those shoes in this video
Agreed
Im so proud that even now the theory community is so kind and not toxic i never comment but being here since the beginning i just want to say thank you to not just the channel but to everyone who post nice messages for me to read.
@UTTPNewEnglandPatriotsdear god this spammer likes to leave a trace for clicks.😒
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@@tahatale8208 just report the spams
I still saw a few people saying “matpat better” in the live chat unfortunately
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im so glad that such incredible people are taking over these channels, good luck for the rest of film theory!
Hey, Lee, it was very nice to join you on your first time hosting Film Theory today! As I already said to Tom, and as I'm sure I'll reiterate to Amy and Santi later this week, it'll be odd for awhile as we adjust to MatPat no longer being around, but I've quite enjoyed your first theory, and look forward to joining you for many more on the future.
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Welcome Lee, congratulations on your first hosting of this channel. You are killing it in this video and keep it up man 🎉🎉🎉
Lee's way of speaking is very pleasant to listen to. Exactly the right pacing, not too slow, not too fast.
I'm glad you're the new host, Lee! Welcome!
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You made a really great case for this, I love all the evidence you provided! Great job Lee, congrats on your first host episode! xx
Starting your career as the host of film theory with a classic "good guy is actually evil" theory. Wonderful
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@@GiggyWiggy2086 a lot of people also they’re bots they don’t care
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WHO ASKED + MY CONTENT IS WAY BETTER
UTTP IS WAY BETTER THAN FILM THЕОRY
MATPAT WON'T BE MISSED LOL................!....,
@@Waltyworld not everything is about religion bozo
Already know you’re gonna crush it, Lee. If Matpat thought you should take over, I don’t doubt it for a second. ❤🎉
Have some respect for film theory
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Only thing bro is gonna crush is his chair when recording
I actually love Lee's voice. It's soothing to listen to. Welcome, Lee. We're excited to what you have stored in for us!
Lee is the best choice for the channel.
I'm very much enjoying this new era of Team Thoerist already. Making the show feel the same while clearly showing us that it will be a new chapter for the channel is great!
Lee does such a good job of making us feel at home with this video, after 2 minutes I forgot I was even hearing a different voice. This feels good and while I will forever miss MatPat, I am happy to see this show grow and become something new without changing its identity 🖤
Lee is perfect. I honestly was most worried about him taking over because Film Theory is my favorite channel but I have 0 complaints. Way to go Lee!!!!!
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"Nice to meet you ,I am lee and I own four swords" thats one way to introduce yourself
10:53 Of course not! It's a short cut. And this will devalue the skill that has been honed for decades, which will eventually lead to the extinction of kung fu.
It was misguided, he had good ideas but tried to make up for his shortcomings with shortcuts
Congrats Lee on your first Film Theory as host! You did great, and I'm excited for the next era of this channel! ❤
Oogway tried to be the light to his old partner Kai's darkness, but he met his dark destiny on the path he took to avoid it. His secrets created the very threats he sought to prevent, his training created the dangers his students must face, and his legacy is just as damaging as Kai's if not more so.
That scene at 1:30 is perfect symbolism of MatPat leaving the theorist host duties to his successors.
Holy smokes, Lee has a really good narrator voice! I somehow didn't realize until now??
I didn't get a good read on him beforehand so I was kinda doubtful how he'd do as a channel host, but I'd listen to this buttery smooth voice alll day 👀
Dear Lee, as one the the longests members of Team Theorist I am so happy for you to finally be the new host of Film Theory. Your hard work for the Theorist channels haven't gone unnoticed and I am so excited for what you have in store for us. More power to you!
Kung Fu Panda is my favorite movie franchise of all time and I am THRILLED that you covered this. Loved watching this so much and hearing your take on the story and I am excited for all of your future episodes! Thank you for everything!
@UTTPisBetterThanDannoCaly'know the funniest part is, since he just retired and didn't die the bait doesn't work as good
Welcome aboard, Lee! Great to have you here, and I'm looking forward to seeing what you bring to the table to move the channel ever onwards.
At first, I was upset 😢 MatPat left the channel and I understand he's a busy man and father now but I went into this episode with some skepticism and within two minutes Lee won me over. Good job, my dude, I feel Film Theory is in good hands now
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Valid, and if anyone reads i apologize for yapping. But SMALL OBJECTION.
The majority of oogways teachings about gatekeeping kungfu and constantly denying his students their rightful places was the only method of finding the dragon warrior. Po is different from almost all other characters in the show because he had the self esteem equivalent to that off a lonely high schooler. Oogway gave him a bit of praise claiming he was gonna be the dragon warrior, and after that everyone started to hate Po. He was new, never trained before and completely unqualified. The thing was, that Po never succumed to the insults or the humblings. Like he once said getting beat up, or teased, or anything else like that could never be as bad, as what it was like just being himself. And thats why not just anyone can believe in themself and become the dragon warrior. All the other candidates actually thought they could, but Po was just grateful for the opportunity to at least for a little while pretend like he was actually worth something. His evolution into the dragon warrior came into play when his sense of duty to protect the valley, his home overcame any other anxiety or self doubt he felt, because for him failure was simply unacceptable.
Or maybe im wrong idk, you're doing great man keep up the vids
Y'know, while MatPat's voice is what I'm used to, Lee's voice is much gentler. Like listening to theories at a calm yet warm hearth, compared to MatPat's excited and blazing campfire. I'm looking forward to hearing more.
Dude, I was scared that this will be much worce but you NAILED IT. Good job keep at it
This was an absolutely amazing theory for your first one, I can tell you learned a lot in your 10 years of editing for Matpat. I’ll happily continue watching with you as the host, keep up the amazing work ❤️
WHO ASKED + MY CONTENT IS WAY BETTER
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MATPAT WON'T BE MISSED LOL................!....,
I was introduced to game theory when I was in middle school by a friend.. I’ve been here though all the new channels and now I’m 25 married with 2 kids. Definitely sucks seeing Mat go but it makes sense- dudes going out when everything is doing good which is smart and now I’m sitting here on my break at work and here I am 17:23 minutes later and Lee, you got this
I don’t really comment on anything but I’ll gladly do it if there’s a chance you see this and know that I can speak for the couple dozen people I know who watch everything the theorist put out and have for the last decade- naturally we were worried but good to know film theory has a very promising host🙏 amazing video
2:59quit don't quit nooodles
such wisdom
The quote was cut short.
It is actually "Noodles? Don't Noodles"
Meaning it's more of a "who knows what the correct choice is, or even if there is one" lesson.
Cutting it short to make it sound like gibberish was very disingenuos.
@@samuel5591 yaa I know but it cut of was funny
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The arguments stated were communicated very well & he gave plenty of examples of very important characters in the Kung Fu panda franchise. I was surprised that he didn't mention Kung Fu Panda's major plot point concerning the fact that Oogway never told anyone about Kai the collector's legacy, even though they were very close friends at one point or how Peng turned away from darkness. Very good theory & personal introduction!
The video is filled with either misconstructions of what happens, or blatant lies (like the manipulative cut when Po speaks about the hoplesness of training the panda childs, and Uugway responds with pointing out Po`s hypocricy THE EXACT same argument Lee the nproceeds to make. but cuts out).
@@anonymussicarius8899Gimme more examples.
@@anonymussicarius8899came from Raven Knight's vid I see.
@@eldinoor7072I mean, for the instances where Lee is using the footage of the show in a manipulative way I rely on Raven, because I don´t know the show. But for blatant and obvious misconstructions I am very much capable to reach independently to conslucions which are similar to Raven.
@@lemonhead1571Best to watch the respons video from Raven Knight, since then you have the instances concise and with video material in the manipulative cases.
Lee's presentation while delivering theories is so good, sounds like he has tons of voice over experience and while being paired with some great writing, this episode kept me engaged through the whole video. Great job, and I am excited for the future of Film Theory!
Only Po has The Dragon Chi...thus Oogway didn't choose the Dragon warrior the Universe did.
Honestly if I find out my mentor created a me-shaped iron coffin, that'd be more than enough to kick off my villain origin story 🥴
You did a great job with this theory, Lee! Can't wait to see everything you've got planned down the line. 👏👏
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sorry but no he didnt, well the theory was just wrong and could easily be debunked. the scroll doesn't "make" someone the dragon warrior it only guides the true/fated one (exemplified by the trees and peaches monologue). if one wasn't the fated dragon warrior one wouldn't undertand, it which no one but poo did, nor shifu nor tai lung. oogway knew that, that tai lung wouldn't understand/accept it, the scroll, which he didn't even after the true dragon warrior (poo) explained it, --> tai lung was Never and could never be the dragon warrior and it was actually shifus fault for forcing tai lung to become something he wasn't meant to become.
This was the best way to transition imo. So long Mat, we'll miss you. Hello Lee, excited to see what's next.
Mad respect to see so many references to the show I grew up with as well. I like seeing multiple parts of a franchise at once to support theories
Your intro alone earned an upvote. Looking forward to your Theories, Lee!
Yo I'm still digging the mic quality, doing a great job man. I know you're making MatPat proud!
Wonderful theory Lee! Good job on your first episode, waiting on more cool theories from you! ♥
I just have a little bit of arguments about this theory:
1. Your first example of why Master Oogway is evil was that he discouraged Tai Lung saying he wasn't the Dragon Warrior, causing him to go mad and become the bad guy in the first movie. This is a good argument but my counter-argument is that it's mostly Shifu's fault. If it weren't for him telling Tai Lung that he WILL be the Dragon Warrior and coming up with all those stories about him being Dragon Warrior, it wouldn't have made Tai Lung so motivated. If Shifu told Tai Lung he has strong chances to become the Dragon Warrior but also include the fact that he might not become it either, then it wouldn't have caused such a bad influence on Tai Lung's emotional state when he was told he isn't going to be the Dragon Warrior. Knowing the fact that he still had the possibility not making it into Dragon Warrior could've lessened the tear of his emotions, could've still made him push for the best, and possibly not have him as the bad guy of the first movie. The part where you mentioned the fact that Shifu didn't comfort Tai Lung after being told he didn't get Dragon Warrior would've made things much better for their father+son / mentor+student relationship much better. Not just one moment of discouragement and then boom the whole relationship was just gone.
2. Your second example of why Master Oogway is evil was that he was quick to judge Fend Huang and encaged her. My counter-argument is that it's not fully Master Oogway's fault. My prediction is that Master Oogway only refused to battle her because it was his destiny to rule the Jade Palace and it's Shifu to take the role when Master Oogway dies, and potentially making Po the ruler of the Jade Palace when Shifu dies too. This could mean that it's destined that there is already a line of rulers for the Jade Palace. Feng Huang is not one of them and Master Oogway knows it. Though locking her up in a cage is agreeably messed up.
3. Your third example of why Master Oogway is evil was that he didn't appreciate the fact that Taotie had made the machine to help him do the Kung Fu for him and say that it defeats the purity of Kung Fu. I partially agree to the statement of defeating the purity of Kung Fu but I think it would’ve probably caused more danger to the Valley. When there is a robot doing Kung Fu and it successfully defeats every enemy that crosses its path then I doubt no one is going to do something about it. I doubt no one is either going to try and destroy it or replicate it and make copies of it for their own and defeat Master Oogway, Shifu, and Taotie.
4. Your fourth example of why Master Oogway is evil was that his legacy influenced his successful students to adopt his negative traits. I think that it’s not really the case here. I feel like everyone would act like this in a similar position. When you are being trained by the master you are accepting the fact that there is someone that is teaching something that they worked hard to learn and that whatever you think is correct is probably not. But when you are the one that’s the master you would say that everyone is wrong and you are correct because you’re the one that knows more.
I think I’m done yapping but I’m just throwing out my thoughts. I didn’t say all this to talk bad about you or anything like that. I just wanted to express my thoughts. Anyways I hope you have a good rest of your day!
Excellent debut brother! I am so happy to see everyone who has posted thus far falling into their new roles without missing a beat!
Lee is the best. He brought his own style and cadence to the video, rather then doing a matpat imitation. Awesome job Lee! ❤
Pretty good first video Lee. Looking forward to your future uploads
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Hay, it's good to see that you're starting your legacy with a classic theory of the hero, Was the villain all along
Why won't RUclips do something about this all out invasion of bots
@UTTPNewEnglandPatriots who asked, + if you want people to look at your content, you should try being nice and kind to people. After all, more people are likely to follow good people
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And being as wrong as MatPat was.
@UTTPWorldPolice Just to say, MatPat got a goodbye from the official RUclips channel so YES he is missed🤣
i miss mat as much as the next guy but i think this is a great way to keep the channel feeling fresh and new and i really love it. thanks lee!!
3:00 QUIT, DON'T QUIT, NOODLES got me dying of laughters