You should probaly learn more about what you call dark age since you totaly misundertant it it was globaly a better periode for most people that late antiquity the only ba time was the rise of islam where a lot of people where enslave , the black plaque and the mongol invation where a lot died but overall it was good time : under orien science grow because a lot , woman gain a lot of right exepte under orien, slave become free exepte under orien, a lot of great invention in agriculture where invented and a lot of other stuff
I believe Tibet gets a discipline bonus here because this is historically when the Tibetan kingdoms were a huge threat to China and performed many raids and attacks into the Chinese heartland.
As a Muslim Turkish, I really learned and enjoyed/impressed by the accuracy of tiny details that you have mentioned, (particularly anatolia-Arabia area). Eu4 players definitely need streamers like you with massive historical knowledge. I left the like for your Byzantine campaign and want to see how it goes otherwise in history👍
Quite understandable as Rome and Persia just had a mutually-assured destruction war where Rome was left with only one single legion and won against the odds against the Persians, reclaiming the Oriens from them, only to have the Arabs come and reverse all of that.
Really sad how Byzantium started to collapse after the battle of mazikort (please correct me lmao). It was such a beautiful empire, and I'm not saying this because I'm Greek or any kind. Ottoman empire was low-key sick too
3:40 as a Dutchman I think it's completely accurate. If slovenian and Bulgarian are in the same culture group Dutch/flemish should definitely be grouped together with German. Another thing though either frisian and lower saxon should be seperate from dutch or flemish should not be it's own distinct group reasoning being Frisian is a distinct Germanic language while the Belgian dialects(Flemish/Brabantish/Limbabwean) are just Dialects
(It's important to note that at the start of eu4 Flanders and Brabant are way to underdeved to Holland. In 1470 Flanders had a population of 750.000, Brabant 410.000 and Holland only 270.000 . Holland only became very rich and populated after the fall of Antwerp in 1585. Language wise, flemish, hollandish and brabantish are at this point still very different. The differences start going away in the early 16th century) omg I only just started watching the video and realised I'm in the completely wrong period
Limbabwean is a language though (even recognised irl as such), a sisterlanguage of Dutch to be precise. The origin lies mainly with the fact that the region used to be more German than Dutch till the Dutch annexed it in 1867 (after the dissolution of the German confederation).
Ludi, please can you do more extended timeline videos for each interesting start date? I really enjoyed hearing how you explained the history of this period!
@욱일기는 전범기다 (Rising Sun flag is nazi flag) he rising sun flag has origins before the japanese empire and is not a nazi flag just like how the swastika was actually a buddhist symbol which had nothing to do with hitler, just shut up
@욱일기는 전범기다 (Rising Sun flag is nazi flag) Good lord my dude, do I need to mention that I know some obscure shit like that the malacca sultanate existed in southeast asia, how about the japanese invasion of korea(there were multiple), hideyoshi was it(did I get confused), wanted to be emperor of china
@욱일기는 전범기다 (Rising Sun flag is nazi flag) Can you just stop, Ive fucking read about nanking, the fact a nazi was horrified by the actions of Japan sums it all up
Hey Ludi, I am Dutch and can confirm that we are part of the Germanic group. The Dutch and Germans are considered brothers through all of history. We do have our differences but in most cases we do the same. (1940 was a bit of a d*ck move but okay) Love u Ludi
you should really do more of this mod and of mod reviews in general, clearly you know a thing or two about history and EU4 seems like a great game to express this knowledge.
9:47 it wasn't Constantine that changed the Empire's religion to Christianity. He simply made it not forbidden. The emperor that made Catholicism the official religion of the Roman Empire was Theodosius on the year of 380 AD.
I efing love this mod, the fact that you can get a close and even exact borders from irl nations example like brandenbrug prussia is one of my favourite borders, the big lands in brandenburg and east prussia is somewhat very accurate but the little duchies like cleves, minden and such in Westphalia makes me feel like im actually running a bordergore hre nation
I have learned more about world history, culture, and linguist in this video than probably the last year. I would love a world history series using EU4 and going through the entire extended timeline explaining major events etc. Awesome video!
6:40 In the eastern part of the Roman Empire, greek was always the main language spoken by the people. In 630, greek was already the official language of the Empire, and latin was spoken only in Italy, Africa and some parts in the Balkans.
i laughed so hard to that "certain person" thingy lmao we say the same thing in turkey because when we blame that certain person we end up in prison lol
Just a correction, Charlemagne’s empire wasn’t split between his sons since he only had one surviving son when he died, Louis the pious, but between his grandsons in 843 at the treaty of Verdun
There is a very interesting nation at 1ad, the Indo-Greek alexandrine successor state still existed as just 2 provinces in northern india, it has a lot of interesting unique missions. You can reform Bactria, it might be a fun challenge/campaign to play them.
It was really cool to hear Ludi talk so much about historical cultures and language etc. We don't ever really touch on that stuff in the US and its cool it learn alot!
Great video Ludi!! While it's true that the Byzantines and Sassanians exhausted themselves, it's important to give credit where it's due. Early on, the Muslims endured heavy discrimination within Arabia and were always vastly outnumbered. The very first Battle of Badr was 300 vs 3000. The first battles few battles within Arabia of the pagans and muslims were quite complex in terms of leadership, tactics and administration for that time. The historical archives show a truly fascinating era of how the community of the faithful migrated to Medina and Ethiopia at the time, how treaties were established and communities 'defected' to the Rashidun, and just how amazing the leadership and tactics were. Familial and tribal influences in tribal conquest made for some very interesting stories. Im very happy you mention Khalid ibn al-Walid, who never lost a battle or duel in his life. He was weeping on his deathbed that all he wanted all his life was to be a martyr in the way of God and here he is in bed dying like an old Camel, or something along those lines. Apart from just exhaustion or great tactics and leaderships, crucial battles like battles like Yarmouk, Nahavand, etc involved not only Roman and Persian armies up to 5 times larger than that of Arabs, but also huge technological differences. The Arabs were highly experienced yes, but that experience was in Arabian deserts, split down tribes as well, and with no proper sort of armour and military techniques of the glorious and thousands of years of experience and civilisation of Rome and Persia. The religious zeal you mentioned was also an insanely huge factor in that regards, that a bunch of merchant nomads were able to do that to armies over 5 times their size with way better technology and cohesion than they could ever dream of. Another factor was Nestorian, Miaphysite, and Monophysite Christianity differences that made Rashiduns and their reformist policies more favourable amongst the population.
So sad, no Livonian's around for the modern day. Reading about the Livonian language and that the last native speaker died in the 2010's makes you feel kinda bad.
Hey, I’m Oirat (here we started to call ourselves Kalmyk) from Russia, we really do exist and stayed Buddhist. I guess we have cultural idea against religious conversion, lol
Je vois ce que tu veux dire mais je pense qu'ils ont fait ça pour éviter de trop se casser la tête. Le mod offre quand même 2000 ans de jeux avec évent et tout ce qui suit une game classique de eu4.
@@LudietHistoria To be simple all of france should be francien, the French revolution wasn't just wars with Europe it had huges changes with cultural normalisation in the nation with nationnalism zeal and fear of all the wars. France litterally fully centralize in term of Army, administration, taxes, laws, rights, and culture in litterally 5-10 years, it's the first modern country as we know nowdays (the uniformisation of culture was longer but still got "only" 100 years to fully occur. Nowdays it's only small minorities or french dudes trying to be interseting bieng like "no I m not french i m burgundian" wilst they now nothing about Burgundy like the fact it spoked the exact same langage as parisian french.
@@riatom7314 interesting, never knew the french revolution had such a massive impact! I know that regional dialects are close to extinct tbh and this is also good info, I appreciate it!
Dude, I've been loving your EU4 content for awhile now, but the historical educational stuff you do is genuinely even better. I'm super hyped about where you're taking your channel man, keep it up!
That linguistical curiosity @ 22:00 and explanation of why the word Roman has changed is what I love, Ludi! 😍 It's so fun for me to seek common core in the words from different languages! 😁
Dutch is a germanic language and except more like a "dialect" in many ways. The pronunciation is pretty much the same. As a German my self reading und hearing Dutch is not that hard, and linguistic wise, we are pretty much the same.
The only real difference are the grammatic rules. You guys have different words for Akkusativ Nominativ etc. We don't have those. Your rules are really irritating😅
Funny part. I have a friend living to the dutch border. If they want to speak to the dutch they just speak their local accent which I as a german and a western dutch dont understand but they do.
Dutch really confuses me as an icelandic person who speaks swedish and English Like it really sounds like i should know what they're saying Kinda like danish 😂
That was the Extended timeline mod? Well, I thought it just starts from 1 ad with 1444 borders all the way till 9999. I didnt know it was gonna contain the entire timeline from start to finish
7:42 his descendants did not rule and conquer after him, it was his companions 8:14 even after the war, they were still very strong compared to the rashiduns and the rashiduns were outnumbered and less supplied in every battle, also the there was no way the rashiduns had more experience than the romans and sassanids by just fighting tribes in Arabia
At the invasion of Persia and Syria, most of the Roman and Persian army are fresh conscripts. While the hardened Arabian warriors just spent almost 20 years uniting Arabia. Khalid and other generals were the product of these wars.
Was mid-way through writing a seething comment about how the exhaustion of the Easter Romans and the Sassanids was not the main factor in Rashidun growth but then you turned it round and mentioned religious zeal 🤣🤣🤣
The exhaustion was the main factor though. Both of those Empires had insanely strong and diverse militaries , they could have easily crushed poorly equipped raiders ; they couldn't defend themselves because they had just annihilated each other's militaries.
@@OljeiKhan nope. Their militaries were still strong and numerous. Many battles the muslims were significantly outnumbered, fighting in two fronts and being stretched thin.
@@OljeiKhan This is a very common misconception, it was a factor as the Sassanids and Byzantines did have depleted treasuries and fewer armies but they certainly had large expansive armies and massive wealth compared to the Arab invaders. There is two HUGE examples of this when it comes to the Sassanids, the fall of Ctesiphon came with amazing wealth and treasure - mass amounts of gold, silver, and jewels came into the hands of the much more competent Arab army which outsmarted the larger Persian army. Battle of Nahavand had 100,000 Persian soldiers against the Arab army of 30,000, despite the massive difference in army Size the Persians were slaughtered due to a tactical blunder which saw them falling for a feigned retreat - it led to the collapse of the Sassanids not because of "exhausted armies" but because the Arab invaders themselves annihilated their armies and treasuries. Battle of the Yarmuk was a massive defeat for the Byzantines who saw their huge force of at least 80,000-100,000 soldiers (according to modern historians) get defeated by the Arabs who had 20-40,000 soldiers - this devastated the Byzantine Army even more so than previously who'd suffered similar defeats beforehand.
@@LudietHistoria The same feature is used in the Age of Migration in the extended timeline, and is used for germanic tribes to occupy and gain land from invading the Western and Eastern Roman Empires so they can actually win and make gains against them. It becomes a real swarm of who occupies first when all the germans invade xd
Hey Ludi, I know others have already said it, but as a Dutch native from the northern city of Groningen I find Dutch being in the same culture group as German completely acceptable. Especially seeing the region where I live. Very close to Germany and with a dialect that is similar to the Plattdeutsch dialect in Germany. You could argue that the more southern provinces and Flanders and such would be more close to a French-like culture. But I think that's a bit of a stretch. Buy anyway, the way it's depicted here makes sense to me.
Hey Ludi, I appreciate the historical commentaries you have been making before the gameplay lately. In that, I would like to correct the comment you made at 6:40 regarding the language of the empire. Latin was never the majority language in the east and by 630 it was pretty much dead there, with only a few Balkan and Italian regions of the empire natively speaking latin. In fact, at the time of the reign of Herakles (your starting ruler), Latin was not even being used used as a legal language anymore. The herakleian dinasty and the subsequent isaurian dinasty are often praised by modern historians for making the Justinian Code readable by the population, and they did that by republishing the code in Greek. If we want to dig deep, there is a debate regarding whether even Greek was the majority language before the fall of Egypt, Syria and Palestine, as the Aramaic and Egyptian languages were dominant in their respective provinces and those eastern provinces were more populated than Greece and Anatolia. Anyways, thanks for the video.
Really enjoyed this one , would love to see more videos with the inclusion of this mod. Also your attention to historical details is just so good. Good to see a fellow Moldovan doing so well out here!
Hey ludi, loving the new focus on historical facts. Youre an awesome eu4 player but getting to both see tags disappear and learn about history. Now thats a real treat. Keep up the content man. Again, youre awesome 😎
I had an intense game as the Byzantines in that start date doing a scorched earth strategy against the Caliphate trading land for time and only striking when I had 3 to 1 numerical superiority.
I really enjoy listening you talking about history, your way of speaking and expressing makes it soooo interesting. I would love more history videos, even not neccesarily related to eu4 timeline!
Don´t agree with Secular accepting all religions thus giving no unrest, I mean for example just cause you accept Islam, it does not mean that it makes Islam´s followers peaceful in your country. Same issue with humanism pretty much erasing rebellions.
I just love those videos. I find it really fascinating to listen how you're presenting the political situation at that time and how culture and religion impacted people . This is so much more than school has ever taught me lol
Even if im a guy live in Turkey, love to see your videos like this, its really taste like history lessons but most funny and pleasury way to watch or even listen, i dont know how you know so much things about the world ethnicity, history, religions, even if you're a european, most of the people in the world except middle eastern (or maybe im the only one who is thinking in that way) doesnt really care about history, even there is tons of lessons that we can get easily to shape our future.
wow, great bits of knowledge I'm learning about from this video, watched a Carthage documentary after this, thanks for opening my mind more to history friend
I'm Dutch and us being grouped with Germans doesn't feel weird at all :). I think it's a good thing the cultures and language are pretty connected (I am from Groningen so maybe I'm a bit biased)
I once played as Lazica, I can't remember the start date but I was the first nation to accept Christianity as the state religion so I started to gain cores on other Christian provinces. Maybe that's how Rashidun get so much defectors...
Pretty interesting as usual. Minor correction, it's not Charlemagne that split his empire in 3 (he wanted to but only Louis survived him) but his son Louis 1st the pious.
Hei man i've watched your video for months and you're very good! P.s the term byzantine came out in XIX century in german storiography with the rediscovery of classicism; until then in the west they called the eastern roman empire as the "greek empire" and in the east they called themselves rhomaioi.
About the division of Frankia, it was not after Charlemagne, rather it was his son Louis the Pious who divided it among his three sons. The partition was put into effect with the Treaty of Verdun in 843.
Are you saying the Holy Roman Empire was not Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire?!!? Ooooh, I'm surprised! 😆 As usual, great content and commentary, thanks!
Linguistic wise and people wise, the Dutch are practically the same as the other Germanics. Dutch became its distinct language because of the national identity it was given by itself. Had it stay the same, divided by duchies etc. there is a chance, the Low Lands would be a part of Germany but given the importance of trade, ports, religion etc. I think it would be in a position that it would always be an independent entity of some sorts. Fractured, divided? Who knows. Dutch (the language) itself is considered to be descended from the Frankish (the Germanic tribe, not to be confused with France) language. But German and Dutch is mutually intelligible. (and also creates funny misunderstandings in my own experience)
22:20 should also be noted that "roman" morphed liked that in the south too. Best examples are Mehmed the Conquerer having the cognomen "Qayser-i Rûm" (Caesar of Rome), the "Saljuqiyān-e Rum" (Seljuks of Rome), the native name of aromanians "Rrãmãnji". There were also slight pronounciation differences between Romanians too, depending on the dialect. Dimitrie Cantemir, Prince of Moldavia, wrote "De la Râm ne tragem" (We come from Rome) and they seemed to call the people as a whole "râmân"; in western dialects rumun seems to have been the most used form, while the now usual "român" seems to be native to Muntenia and Southern Transilvania.
It's very enjoyable to hear about history, culture and linguistics. You are not only good at the game, but also have great knowledge about those interesting topics. Eventhough the cultural map is very accurate, I have to say that the Catalan language is closer to the occitan and French than the iberian culture group...
Hey Ludi, video recommendation for ya here: 1686 Ottomans, try to defeat the holy league without losing a single province. I think this run should be super fun along with your amazing historical commentary.
22:00 That connection between phonemes and temperature, is fascinating... immediately I thought of languages from tropical cultures that have a vowel between every consonant it seems, like this 36-letter Hawaiian surname: "Keihanaikukauakahihuliheekahaunaele" or the capital of Burkina Faso: "Ouagadougou" ...versus the number of consonants northern, cold-weather cultures smash together in their words... like the Polish town of "Pszczyna" (5 consonants), or my favourite German word: "Weltschmerz" (6 consonants) and there are those out there with 7 consonants, but I didn't like them as examples...
As a Dutch native I can affirm that the Dutch culture is reasonably similar to the German culture. The language is similar enough that you can almost understand eachother even without language lessons, but dissimilar enough that you really want those lessons. The Netherlands has always been very naval oriented and contain a lot of influences from the cultures trading along the Hanseatic trade route. This even includes influences from North Afrika (hence the harsh vowels which do not exist in German). The power in the Germanic became more and more centralized (with more and more martial attitudes) whereas the power in the Dutch region has remained relatively decentralized in the provinces due to the influence of the naval trade on the power structure in the Netherlands. I would say Dutch people are more prone to disrespect authority as a result. Also Dutch people were traditionally also more war-averse (land based war at least, we did love plundering colonies and trade routes). This also is due to the heavy reliance on trade. Religiously I feel that Germany maintained more of the pagan traditions. After both church reformations a situation arose in the Netherlands which is called 'zuilenmaatschappij' in Dutch. It means you tolerate each other but ignore a lot of stuff from people not directly belonging to your group, making these things taboo to talk about in public (first only religiously, but later also ethnically). I think Dutch people are still very multicultural outwardly, but rather monocultural privately as a result. We're a rather pragmatic and direct people (sometimes insultingly so according to foreigners), moreso than the Germans I think. We also value planning and efficiency to a high degree, so you can't really just go for a cup of coffee without a scheduled appointment. Also don't expect a lot of friendly banter during meetings, usually its straight to the point. And if the results are shit, we'll call them shit and go straight to "what are we going to do about it" instead of cautiously approaching the subject first. Its always hilarious if there's a foreigner at the table who is not used to that yet xD.
1 minor mistake that in Morea, Hellenistic religion was still a thing up until 8th century AD. So much that missionaries were sent. But overally, it's good, very good job.
awesome presentation Ludi, imma try this mod! btw Charlemagne's grandkids had the empire split, it remained unified under his son(and co-emperor from 813) Louis the Pious
Maybe ive missed soemthing, but last i checked, the "dark ages" really didnt exist. I remember reading that there we many significant technological advances in Europe, but due to a lack of archiving, people assumed not much happened.
The dark ages are literally called the dark ages because europe went back in technology and literary works. Less written books and technological regress. Steel and concrete was widely used by the romans for example. The knowledge was lost during the dark ages and found again much later. That's not to say there werent parts of the world who didnt make steel, but in europe specifically almost no steel tools or weapons found from the dark ages. There's more to it but thats one small example
@@LudietHistoria So, digging in a bit a reading it, the "dark ages" stems from Renaissance thinking and was coined with a specific negative light towards the early and middle medieval period. These people had a severe bias, believing classical greek and roman to be the pinnical of human society. It seems that within the last century most historians have been attempting to remove that name as it has become apparent is isnt true. While you're right that things such as roman concrete were lost, during that period there were numerious innovations in agricultural technologies from ploughs to equipment that allowed horses to be used effectively on the fields which were far more efficient then other beasts of burden, vastly increasing available food resources. Thats also not to mention the literary advances that Charlemagne nourished on top of his military prestige. He introduced a standardized script that that included puncuation, spaces and cases which facilitated reading and writing, as well as education and so on. All of this set up the events needed for the Renaissance to occur in the first place. Regardless, love the videos and love when creators get a chance to comment. You make good content and im excited to see you grow!
I'd still call it the dark ages as the lack of archiving compared to before is proof that society degraded. The level of urbanisation falling dramatically post-Rome is also good enough proof. Urbanisation happens when there is enough peace & food to feed big cities, and big cities are after all centres of technology & innovation. After Rome fell you had a ton of squabbling kingdoms & tribes fighting, lack of peace, stability & safety, the biggest enemies of a functioning economy. But I wouldn't drag the dark ages all the way to the renaissance, it was getting better around the age of Charlemagne & onward, the early middle ages were dark but the high middle ages were anything but dark tbh.
@@LudietHistoria Have you read The Inheritance of Rome? It's a great book on the topic that gets into a bit of the things you mentioned about the slow transition from Roman identity in Western Europe.
Playing as the Mongols is fun. It's a decision to form the empire so you can kick start it early as a young Genghis. It's fun to see how far you can go, I managed to get all of India and IndoChina aswell as the historical conquest under me.
Very nice video, it would be great to watch a series about surviving from the Rashidun rise. Btw the province assimilation after 6 months from the siege is the same event that is used in the barbarian migration in the "migration age" against Rome
Actually, by 630, at least the language of administartion was greek, and we can assume that the lingua franca in the empire was also greek. Justinian was the last emperor to govern the empire in Latin. The name "Byzantine Empire" originates in the 1700s if I remember correctly (it's been too long since I looked it up). The byzzies called themselves the Romans (the official title of the emperor was Rhomaion Basileus which translates to Autocrat of the Romans). Today, historiography refers to them as Byzantine Empire because it makes it easier to distinguish from the Roman Empire and the Holy Roman Empire. The whole Holy Roman Empire thing originated in the fact that Charlamagne bullied the pope to name him emperor as the pope had had a document forged which basically stated that Constatine left the western half of the Roman Empire under papal stweardship when the imperial court moved to Constantinople. At the time, it was widely accepted in the West and only contested by the byzzies who had a woman (!) on the throne in 800. All of this combined gave both Charlamagne and the pope a pretext to crown the King of the Franks as Emperor of the Romans because "the throne of the Empire was empty". Also, in 630, there shouldn't be too big of a distinction between the Slavic tribes. The first split happened when some of them migerated to the Carpathian basin and the Balkans (whom later would become the South Slavs) then the second split happened when the Poles adopted Western Christianity and the Rus adopted Eastern Christianity (creating th West and East Slav distinction). As for the Romanians, correct me if I'm wrong, but even the Romanian intelligentsia refutes the Daco-Romanian origin theory. As far as I know, it was the invading bolghars who pushed them to Wallachia from Moesia.
@@LudietHistoria That makes a lot of sense. I figured I would ask as I recall you studying for your pilot's license a while back so I wasn't sure! I'm glad to see your channel doing well and wish you continued success in 2022 :)
The dutch being in the german group is ABSOLUTELY reasonable. I am a native low german speaker. And i can communicate with little problems to the dutch, as low german (which was widely used in nortehrn germany) is basically dutch in a bit different.
I noticed a nation called Samo which is actually very interesting. I believe it was the first ever "organized" Slavic nation founded by a man from Francia from whom it got its name.
Turkey is a secular nation. The fact that the Republic of Turkey is a secular state is guaranteed by the immutable provisions of the constitution. Even Erdogan cannot change that. We do not allow this.
We german can understand parts of dutch. Yeah, for a german is super weird to hear dutch but some words in sentences are the same and when you hear closer you can understand what the person is to say to you in dutch cuz words like slagen, zitten, allebeste, kant zorgen achter, vriend, komt, frietkot and so many more.. its little bit like Ostfriesisch. Its very similiar to friesisch language. And in germany at least in my school, we had old german languages in lower saxony.
The legend that says the western part of Europe had a "dark" age before Renaissance is actually false. At least in term of culture. There was still a lot of rich aspects culturally speaking. If we consider the litterature, there was actually a lot , and really a lot of writters by this time. Some of them are still known today. I'll take the exemple of Chrétien de Troyes, a french poet who wrote The Song of Roland, wich is a master piece of poetry, or simply is considered the inventor of arthurian litterature wich is also a big deal. The fact middle age is considered as a dark age is a legacy from the people who lived in Renaissance. They wanted to glorify themselves by degrading their ancestors, and assimilate themselves as the true successors of ancient people Sorry for my bad english, as a french speaker we are wellknown for our bad english. Really good video Ludi, I enjoyed it a lot ! Keep it up !
So true! Many of the Reinassance literature is influenced by medieval works, like Dante´s. Same with the arquitecture. Roman arquitecture was impressive, but also gothic cathedrals in France, England, Germany. It's really unfair for medieval History to be treated that way...
they nailed it at Dayak at the borneo. Dayak is actually has more ethnic under it like Iban, Melanau, Bidayuh, etc. but, yeah, putting Dayak is an okay move to put it as culture in most part of borneo
While it was interesting to learn how "român" is pronounced in Romanian, vowel shifts are random in the end. Slavic languages have "a", just like Romanian itself has. While there are instances of pronunciations and words being artificially forced upon a language, we can be certain that the changes that occurred which differentiate the Latin "Romanus" from the various words it would become (think "Romain", "Romano", "Romanu", etc.), those changes came about organically from different influences. For instance, "ы", equivelant to the second vowel in "român" when judging by the ear, can be hypothesised to come from Slavic influence. However, it's not because of the cold. If that were so, the English and the Germans would not say "ouch" nor "ausch", as that requires quite an open mouth in weather that can be frigid.
That province defection for Rashidun is crazy OP... I'll keep saying it: It's hilarious that getting to see a woman play eu4 is the motivating reward. b/c I really do! it's such a rarity that it is a spectacle merely for happening. You may see this comment a few times, on a few Ludi's videos. Sorry, Ludi, not trying to opinion-spam... I just feel a compulsive need to reiterate what's really happening: it's so rare to see a woman play eu4, that to see it, is a prize for an achievement.
as Austrian who studied in the Netherlands i think the culture group is ok the way it is. I did not need to learn the language, after a half year there you as german speaker can get used to dutch and kinda speak it without using a language course. Its bit more extreme then a swiss dialect, but still u can adapt to it.
Charlemagne had 1 kid (louis le pieux in french) and 3 grandson not 3 kids. The split between east francia west francia and lotharingia happened with his grandson I believe
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Does your wife know about this fact?
Apparently she is EU4 pro
where is the mod link at
You should probaly learn more about what you call dark age since you totaly misundertant it it was globaly a better periode for most people that late antiquity the only ba time was the rise of islam where a lot of people where enslave , the black plaque and the mongol invation where a lot died but overall it was good time : under orien science grow because a lot , woman gain a lot of right exepte under orien, slave become free exepte under orien, a lot of great invention in agriculture where invented and a lot of other stuff
You is want an awesome game? Play annbenar as the centaurs. The horde on coke and speed and crack. If you stop going to war you lose the game
Ludi: making sure he explains everything about Romanian pronunciation
Also Ludi: completely slaughters any Arabic name without a care
my apologies xD
@@APorLa16_RMA قوم عاد
I believe Tibet gets a discipline bonus here because this is historically when the Tibetan kingdoms were a huge threat to China and performed many raids and attacks into the Chinese heartland.
thats true yeah, was a different time for that area for sure
When An Lushan's Rebellion broke out during the Tang Dynasty, the Tibetans invaded and took over a large part of Chinese territories in the west.
@욱일기는 전범기다 (Rising Sun flag is nazi flag) Stop saying that, it's annoying
@@charlie2210 I think his whole personality revolves around that 😆
@욱일기는 전범기다 (Rising Sun flag is nazi flag) u mom gey
As a Muslim Turkish, I really learned and enjoyed/impressed by the accuracy of tiny details that you have mentioned, (particularly anatolia-Arabia area). Eu4 players definitely need streamers like you with massive historical knowledge. I left the like for your Byzantine campaign and want to see how it goes otherwise in history👍
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@@ysff0710 I see the strong sperm greek god has arrived...
@@ysff0710 I am not an Arab, if you wonder.
@욱일기는 전범기다 (Rising Sun flag is nazi flag) who?
@@ozanaydin2300 you are arab
The facial expression Ludi has on the thumbnail sums up the Byzantines irl at the time pretty well 😅
it truly does xD
Quite understandable as Rome and Persia just had a mutually-assured destruction war where Rome was left with only one single legion and won against the odds against the Persians, reclaiming the Oriens from them, only to have the Arabs come and reverse all of that.
Really sad how Byzantium started to collapse after the battle of mazikort (please correct me lmao). It was such a beautiful empire, and I'm not saying this because I'm Greek or any kind. Ottoman empire was low-key sick too
@@nickthegreek_f.t8848 I'm Turkish and I like Byzantium Empire too, lol.
@@cybernetix_1440 the romans still outnumbered the muslims, as did the Persians.
3:40 as a Dutchman I think it's completely accurate. If slovenian and Bulgarian are in the same culture group Dutch/flemish should definitely be grouped together with German. Another thing though either frisian and lower saxon should be seperate from dutch or flemish should not be it's own distinct group reasoning being Frisian is a distinct Germanic language while the Belgian dialects(Flemish/Brabantish/Limbabwean) are just Dialects
(It's important to note that at the start of eu4 Flanders and Brabant are way to underdeved to Holland. In 1470 Flanders had a population of 750.000, Brabant 410.000 and Holland only 270.000 . Holland only became very rich and populated after the fall of Antwerp in 1585. Language wise, flemish, hollandish and brabantish are at this point still very different. The differences start going away in the early 16th century) omg I only just started watching the video and realised I'm in the completely wrong period
Limbabwean is a language though (even recognised irl as such), a sisterlanguage of Dutch to be precise. The origin lies mainly with the fact that the region used to be more German than Dutch till the Dutch annexed it in 1867 (after the dissolution of the German confederation).
@@tuub1281 Makes sense. thank you
Als nederlander is t wel pijnlijk dat ze flevoland niet hebben toegevoegd
@@mart2506 Hahahahaha gvd
Ludi, please can you do more extended timeline videos for each interesting start date? I really enjoyed hearing how you explained the history of this period!
I will try!
@욱일기는 전범기다 (Rising Sun flag is nazi flag) he rising sun flag has origins before the japanese empire and is not a nazi flag just like how the swastika was actually a buddhist symbol which had nothing to do with hitler, just shut up
@욱일기는 전범기다 (Rising Sun flag is nazi flag) Good lord my dude, do I need to mention that I know some obscure shit like that the malacca sultanate existed in southeast asia, how about the japanese invasion of korea(there were multiple), hideyoshi was it(did I get confused), wanted to be emperor of china
@욱일기는 전범기다 (Rising Sun flag is nazi flag) I know all that, but the flag has little to do with it
@욱일기는 전범기다 (Rising Sun flag is nazi flag) Can you just stop, Ive fucking read about nanking, the fact a nazi was horrified by the actions of Japan sums it all up
Hey Ludi, I am Dutch and can confirm that we are part of the Germanic group. The Dutch and Germans are considered brothers through all of history. We do have our differences but in most cases we do the same. (1940 was a bit of a d*ck move but okay)
Love u Ludi
Thanks for letting me know Lars, I appreciate that!
Like Portugal as part of Iberian group ig?
@@LudietHistoria as a flemish I can confirm that Dutch starts separating from German in the 13 hundreds, and accelerating a lot in the 16 hundreds.
@욱일기는 전범기다 (Rising Sun flag is nazi flag) You need a new quest in life. Look for the !
you should really do more of this mod and of mod reviews in general, clearly you know a thing or two about history and EU4 seems like a great game to express this knowledge.
9:47 it wasn't Constantine that changed the Empire's religion to Christianity. He simply made it not forbidden.
The emperor that made Catholicism the official religion of the Roman Empire was Theodosius on the year of 380 AD.
I efing love this mod, the fact that you can get a close and even exact borders from irl nations example like brandenbrug prussia is one of my favourite borders, the big lands in brandenburg and east prussia is somewhat very accurate but the little duchies like cleves, minden and such in Westphalia makes me feel like im actually running a bordergore hre nation
very true, great mod
I have learned more about world history, culture, and linguist in this video than probably the last year. I would love a world history series using EU4 and going through the entire extended timeline explaining major events etc. Awesome video!
23:00 The Empire was split between his grandchildren not his children.
yes, Charlemagne had indeed 3 (non-bastard)sons, but 2 of them died.
6:40
In the eastern part of the Roman Empire, greek was always the main language spoken by the people. In 630, greek was already the official language of the Empire, and latin was spoken only in Italy, Africa and some parts in the Balkans.
You can play this scenario in Voltaire's nightmare, you will struggle to survive 🤣🤣
i might, it looks juicy in that mod
so does your pc
@@Okuni_ I can confirm
@@LudietHistoria yes please, now I'm excited
i laughed so hard to that "certain person" thingy lmao we say the same thing in turkey because when we blame that certain person we end up in prison lol
Just a correction, Charlemagne’s empire wasn’t split between his sons since he only had one surviving son when he died, Louis the pious, but between his grandsons in 843 at the treaty of Verdun
There is a very interesting nation at 1ad, the Indo-Greek alexandrine successor state still existed as just 2 provinces in northern india, it has a lot of interesting unique missions. You can reform Bactria, it might be a fun challenge/campaign to play them.
Really interesting video! I liked the quick overview of the different time periods
glad you liked it Jack!
It was really cool to hear Ludi talk so much about historical cultures and language etc. We don't ever really touch on that stuff in the US and its cool it learn alot!
Great video Ludi!! While it's true that the Byzantines and Sassanians exhausted themselves, it's important to give credit where it's due. Early on, the Muslims endured heavy discrimination within Arabia and were always vastly outnumbered. The very first Battle of Badr was 300 vs 3000. The first battles few battles within Arabia of the pagans and muslims were quite complex in terms of leadership, tactics and administration for that time. The historical archives show a truly fascinating era of how the community of the faithful migrated to Medina and Ethiopia at the time, how treaties were established and communities 'defected' to the Rashidun, and just how amazing the leadership and tactics were. Familial and tribal influences in tribal conquest made for some very interesting stories. Im very happy you mention Khalid ibn al-Walid, who never lost a battle or duel in his life. He was weeping on his deathbed that all he wanted all his life was to be a martyr in the way of God and here he is in bed dying like an old Camel, or something along those lines. Apart from just exhaustion or great tactics and leaderships, crucial battles like battles like Yarmouk, Nahavand, etc involved not only Roman and Persian armies up to 5 times larger than that of Arabs, but also huge technological differences. The Arabs were highly experienced yes, but that experience was in Arabian deserts, split down tribes as well, and with no proper sort of armour and military techniques of the glorious and thousands of years of experience and civilisation of Rome and Persia. The religious zeal you mentioned was also an insanely huge factor in that regards, that a bunch of merchant nomads were able to do that to armies over 5 times their size with way better technology and cohesion than they could ever dream of. Another factor was Nestorian, Miaphysite, and Monophysite Christianity differences that made Rashiduns and their reformist policies more favourable amongst the population.
So sad, no Livonian's around for the modern day. Reading about the Livonian language and that the last native speaker died in the 2010's makes you feel kinda bad.
Fr?
Actually, come back with a few other native speakers
"You are not Roman, you are just a Greek who pretends to be Roman" German Bishop Liutprand before being sent to rot in prison by emperor Phokas.
I guess people started accusing others of being LARPers as an insult since back in the day
Hey, I’m Oirat (here we started to call ourselves Kalmyk) from Russia, we really do exist and stayed Buddhist.
I guess we have cultural idea against religious conversion, lol
This modern France culture depiction is anything but accurate, I fear for the rest of the contries I don't know well.
interesting, so what should be changed? Occitaine in south and such?
Je vois ce que tu veux dire mais je pense qu'ils ont fait ça pour éviter de trop se casser la tête. Le mod offre quand même 2000 ans de jeux avec évent et tout ce qui suit une game classique de eu4.
@@LudietHistoria To be simple all of france should be francien, the French revolution wasn't just wars with Europe it had huges changes with cultural normalisation in the nation with nationnalism zeal and fear of all the wars.
France litterally fully centralize in term of Army, administration, taxes, laws, rights, and culture in litterally 5-10 years, it's the first modern country as we know nowdays (the uniformisation of culture was longer but still got "only" 100 years to fully occur.
Nowdays it's only small minorities or french dudes trying to be interseting bieng like "no I m not french i m burgundian" wilst they now nothing about Burgundy like the fact it spoked the exact same langage as parisian french.
@@gink456 Je sais c'était juste pour nuancer le propos.
@@riatom7314 interesting, never knew the french revolution had such a massive impact! I know that regional dialects are close to extinct tbh and this is also good info, I appreciate it!
Dude, I've been loving your EU4 content for awhile now, but the historical educational stuff you do is genuinely even better. I'm super hyped about where you're taking your channel man, keep it up!
Glad you enjoy it!
That linguistical curiosity @ 22:00 and explanation of why the word Roman has changed is what I love, Ludi! 😍 It's so fun for me to seek common core in the words from different languages! 😁
Dutch is a germanic language and except more like a "dialect" in many ways. The pronunciation is pretty much the same. As a German my self reading und hearing Dutch is not that hard, and linguistic wise, we are pretty much the same.
very interesting, thanks for letting me know this!
The only real difference are the grammatic rules. You guys have different words for Akkusativ Nominativ etc. We don't have those. Your rules are really irritating😅
Funny part. I have a friend living to the dutch border. If they want to speak to the dutch they just speak their local accent which I as a german and a western dutch dont understand but they do.
Dutch really confuses me as an icelandic person who speaks swedish and English
Like it really sounds like i should know what they're saying
Kinda like danish 😂
Dutch sounds like a drunk english guy trying to speak german
That was the Extended timeline mod? Well, I thought it just starts from 1 ad with 1444 borders all the way till 9999. I didnt know it was gonna contain the entire timeline from start to finish
yup, literally the entire timeline!
7:42 his descendants did not rule and conquer after him, it was his companions
8:14 even after the war, they were still very strong compared to the rashiduns and the rashiduns were outnumbered and less supplied in every battle, also the there was no way the rashiduns had more experience than the romans and sassanids by just fighting tribes in Arabia
At the invasion of Persia and Syria, most of the Roman and Persian army are fresh conscripts. While the hardened Arabian warriors just spent almost 20 years uniting Arabia. Khalid and other generals were the product of these wars.
Was mid-way through writing a seething comment about how the exhaustion of the Easter Romans and the Sassanids was not the main factor in Rashidun growth but then you turned it round and mentioned religious zeal 🤣🤣🤣
beat you to it :p
What do you mean, the exhaustion was the main factor behind the lack of resistance
The exhaustion was the main factor though. Both of those Empires had insanely strong and diverse militaries , they could have easily crushed poorly equipped raiders ; they couldn't defend themselves because they had just annihilated each other's militaries.
@@OljeiKhan nope. Their militaries were still strong and numerous. Many battles the muslims were significantly outnumbered, fighting in two fronts and being stretched thin.
@@OljeiKhan This is a very common misconception, it was a factor as the Sassanids and Byzantines did have depleted treasuries and fewer armies but they certainly had large expansive armies and massive wealth compared to the Arab invaders. There is two HUGE examples of this when it comes to the Sassanids, the fall of Ctesiphon came with amazing wealth and treasure - mass amounts of gold, silver, and jewels came into the hands of the much more competent Arab army which outsmarted the larger Persian army. Battle of Nahavand had 100,000 Persian soldiers against the Arab army of 30,000, despite the massive difference in army Size the Persians were slaughtered due to a tactical blunder which saw them falling for a feigned retreat - it led to the collapse of the Sassanids not because of "exhausted armies" but because the Arab invaders themselves annihilated their armies and treasuries. Battle of the Yarmuk was a massive defeat for the Byzantines who saw their huge force of at least 80,000-100,000 soldiers (according to modern historians) get defeated by the Arabs who had 20-40,000 soldiers - this devastated the Byzantine Army even more so than previously who'd suffered similar defeats beforehand.
I'm pretty sure the province defection uses the Synthetics mechanic that changes the owner after being occupied.
I think you're right yeah
@@LudietHistoria The same feature is used in the Age of Migration in the extended timeline, and is used for germanic tribes to occupy and gain land from invading the Western and Eastern Roman Empires so they can actually win and make gains against them. It becomes a real swarm of who occupies first when all the germans invade xd
Hey Ludi, I know others have already said it, but as a Dutch native from the northern city of Groningen I find Dutch being in the same culture group as German completely acceptable.
Especially seeing the region where I live. Very close to Germany and with a dialect that is similar to the Plattdeutsch dialect in Germany. You could argue that the more southern provinces and Flanders and such would be more close to a French-like culture. But I think that's a bit of a stretch.
Buy anyway, the way it's depicted here makes sense to me.
Hey Ludi, I appreciate the historical commentaries you have been making before the gameplay lately. In that, I would like to correct the comment you made at 6:40 regarding the language of the empire. Latin was never the majority language in the east and by 630 it was pretty much dead there, with only a few Balkan and Italian regions of the empire natively speaking latin. In fact, at the time of the reign of Herakles (your starting ruler), Latin was not even being used used as a legal language anymore. The herakleian dinasty and the subsequent isaurian dinasty are often praised by modern historians for making the Justinian Code readable by the population, and they did that by republishing the code in Greek. If we want to dig deep, there is a debate regarding whether even Greek was the majority language before the fall of Egypt, Syria and Palestine, as the Aramaic and Egyptian languages were dominant in their respective provinces and those eastern provinces were more populated than Greece and Anatolia.
Anyways, thanks for the video.
"The Slavs came from a very cold area"
*Selects Ural*
Really enjoyed this one , would love to see more videos with the inclusion of this mod. Also your attention to historical details is just so good. Good to see a fellow Moldovan doing so well out here!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Hey ludi, loving the new focus on historical facts. Youre an awesome eu4 player but getting to both see tags disappear and learn about history. Now thats a real treat. Keep up the content man. Again, youre awesome 😎
I had an intense game as the Byzantines in that start date doing a scorched earth strategy against the Caliphate trading land for time and only striking when I had 3 to 1 numerical superiority.
I really enjoy listening you talking about history, your way of speaking and expressing makes it soooo interesting. I would love more history videos, even not neccesarily related to eu4 timeline!
2:02 congrats! you got a free ticket to Istanbul and you will be staying there for the rest of your life.
Don´t agree with Secular accepting all religions thus giving no unrest, I mean for example just cause you accept Islam, it does not mean that it makes Islam´s followers peaceful in your country. Same issue with humanism pretty much erasing rebellions.
Check out Daniel haqiqatju he explains how secularism is only tolerant of secular values
I just love those videos. I find it really fascinating to listen how you're presenting the political situation at that time and how culture and religion impacted people . This is so much more than school has ever taught me lol
Even if im a guy live in Turkey, love to see your videos like this, its really taste like history lessons but most funny and pleasury way to watch or even listen, i dont know how you know so much things about the world ethnicity, history, religions, even if you're a european, most of the people in the world except middle eastern (or maybe im the only one who is thinking in that way) doesnt really care about history, even there is tons of lessons that we can get easily to shape our future.
''Certain Person'' on point as usual
Imagine Ludi as History Teacher explaining you as student every major event in History via playing EU4, I‘d he an expert in no time
wow, great bits of knowledge I'm learning about from this video, watched a Carthage documentary after this, thanks for opening my mind more to history friend
Lol 2:00 ty for touching on that and knowing unless %80 of other people from the world that we are actually not happy with whats happening
Ludi for Grand Duke of Luxembourg !
Let´s get that Luxembourg video :)
"certain person"😆 recep tayip
"most accurate borders" laughs in Voltaire's New Nightmare
i have to check that mod. Someone else also mentioned it and havent seen it yet
Road to daily uploads!! Keep it up Ludi
I'll try!
I'm Dutch and us being grouped with Germans doesn't feel weird at all :). I think it's a good thing the cultures and language are pretty connected (I am from Groningen so maybe I'm a bit biased)
From Groningen as well, and yeah Dutch and Germans are just really close relatives. Same culture group makes sense to me
I once played as Lazica, I can't remember the start date but I was the first nation to accept Christianity as the state religion so I started to gain cores on other Christian provinces. Maybe that's how Rashidun get so much defectors...
Props for pronouncing the arab names pretty well 👏👏
Pretty interesting as usual. Minor correction, it's not Charlemagne that split his empire in 3 (he wanted to but only Louis survived him) but his son Louis 1st the pious.
Hei man i've watched your video for months and you're very good! P.s the term byzantine came out in XIX century in german storiography with the rediscovery of classicism; until then in the west they called the eastern roman empire as the "greek empire" and in the east they called themselves rhomaioi.
1:55 comment about turkey: it was probably the most historically accurate thing lol
About the division of Frankia, it was not after Charlemagne, rather it was his son Louis the Pious who divided it among his three sons. The partition was put into effect with the Treaty of Verdun in 843.
Are you saying the Holy Roman Empire was not Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire?!!? Ooooh, I'm surprised!
😆
As usual, great content and commentary, thanks!
Bro, I'm Romanian and I didn't even know how Roman changed to Român.
Honestly these videos where ludi explains history is the best content in this channel
for me at least
Linguistic wise and people wise, the Dutch are practically the same as the other Germanics.
Dutch became its distinct language because of the national identity it was given by itself. Had it stay the same, divided by duchies etc. there is a chance, the Low Lands would be a part of Germany but given the importance of trade, ports, religion etc. I think it would be in a position that it would always be an independent entity of some sorts. Fractured, divided? Who knows.
Dutch (the language) itself is considered to be descended from the Frankish (the Germanic tribe, not to be confused with France) language.
But German and Dutch is mutually intelligible. (and also creates funny misunderstandings in my own experience)
This is a really well made mod. Props to whoever made that.
22:20 should also be noted that "roman" morphed liked that in the south too. Best examples are Mehmed the Conquerer having the cognomen "Qayser-i Rûm" (Caesar of Rome), the "Saljuqiyān-e Rum" (Seljuks of Rome), the native name of aromanians "Rrãmãnji". There were also slight pronounciation differences between Romanians too, depending on the dialect. Dimitrie Cantemir, Prince of Moldavia, wrote "De la Râm ne tragem" (We come from Rome) and they seemed to call the people as a whole "râmân"; in western dialects rumun seems to have been the most used form, while the now usual "român" seems to be native to Muntenia and Southern Transilvania.
It's very enjoyable to hear about history, culture and linguistics. You are not only good at the game, but also have great knowledge about those interesting topics.
Eventhough the cultural map is very accurate, I have to say that the Catalan language is closer to the occitan and French than the iberian culture group...
Hey Ludi, video recommendation for ya here: 1686 Ottomans, try to defeat the holy league without losing a single province. I think this run should be super fun along with your amazing historical commentary.
I really love your channel. The gameplay part is cool, but I'm really starting to dig the educational parts too!
22:00 That connection between phonemes and temperature, is fascinating... immediately I thought of languages from tropical cultures that have a vowel between every consonant it seems, like this 36-letter Hawaiian surname: "Keihanaikukauakahihuliheekahaunaele" or the capital of Burkina Faso: "Ouagadougou" ...versus the number of consonants northern, cold-weather cultures smash together in their words... like the Polish town of "Pszczyna" (5 consonants), or my favourite German word: "Weltschmerz" (6 consonants) and there are those out there with 7 consonants, but I didn't like them as examples...
It actually looks like on the thumbnail the Byzantines are the ones with the great stats
ohhh good point, might change it
As a Dutch native I can affirm that the Dutch culture is reasonably similar to the German culture. The language is similar enough that you can almost understand eachother even without language lessons, but dissimilar enough that you really want those lessons. The Netherlands has always been very naval oriented and contain a lot of influences from the cultures trading along the Hanseatic trade route. This even includes influences from North Afrika (hence the harsh vowels which do not exist in German).
The power in the Germanic became more and more centralized (with more and more martial attitudes) whereas the power in the Dutch region has remained relatively decentralized in the provinces due to the influence of the naval trade on the power structure in the Netherlands. I would say Dutch people are more prone to disrespect authority as a result. Also Dutch people were traditionally also more war-averse (land based war at least, we did love plundering colonies and trade routes). This also is due to the heavy reliance on trade.
Religiously I feel that Germany maintained more of the pagan traditions. After both church reformations a situation arose in the Netherlands which is called 'zuilenmaatschappij' in Dutch. It means you tolerate each other but ignore a lot of stuff from people not directly belonging to your group, making these things taboo to talk about in public (first only religiously, but later also ethnically). I think Dutch people are still very multicultural outwardly, but rather monocultural privately as a result.
We're a rather pragmatic and direct people (sometimes insultingly so according to foreigners), moreso than the Germans I think. We also value planning and efficiency to a high degree, so you can't really just go for a cup of coffee without a scheduled appointment. Also don't expect a lot of friendly banter during meetings, usually its straight to the point. And if the results are shit, we'll call them shit and go straight to "what are we going to do about it" instead of cautiously approaching the subject first. Its always hilarious if there's a foreigner at the table who is not used to that yet xD.
1 minor mistake that in Morea, Hellenistic religion was still a thing up until 8th century AD. So much that missionaries were sent. But overally, it's good, very good job.
awesome presentation Ludi, imma try this mod! btw Charlemagne's grandkids had the empire split, it remained unified under his son(and co-emperor from 813) Louis the Pious
yeah that was my mistake!
Thank you Ludi! Top quality video, Now i wanna try the mod myself :)
Maybe ive missed soemthing, but last i checked, the "dark ages" really didnt exist. I remember reading that there we many significant technological advances in Europe, but due to a lack of archiving, people assumed not much happened.
The dark ages are literally called the dark ages because europe went back in technology and literary works. Less written books and technological regress. Steel and concrete was widely used by the romans for example. The knowledge was lost during the dark ages and found again much later. That's not to say there werent parts of the world who didnt make steel, but in europe specifically almost no steel tools or weapons found from the dark ages. There's more to it but thats one small example
@@LudietHistoria So, digging in a bit a reading it, the "dark ages" stems from Renaissance thinking and was coined with a specific negative light towards the early and middle medieval period. These people had a severe bias, believing classical greek and roman to be the pinnical of human society.
It seems that within the last century most historians have been attempting to remove that name as it has become apparent is isnt true.
While you're right that things such as roman concrete were lost, during that period there were numerious innovations in agricultural technologies from ploughs to equipment that allowed horses to be used effectively on the fields which were far more efficient then other beasts of burden, vastly increasing available food resources.
Thats also not to mention the literary advances that Charlemagne nourished on top of his military prestige. He introduced a standardized script that that included puncuation, spaces and cases which facilitated reading and writing, as well as education and so on.
All of this set up the events needed for the Renaissance to occur in the first place.
Regardless, love the videos and love when creators get a chance to comment. You make good content and im excited to see you grow!
I'd still call it the dark ages as the lack of archiving compared to before is proof that society degraded. The level of urbanisation falling dramatically post-Rome is also good enough proof. Urbanisation happens when there is enough peace & food to feed big cities, and big cities are after all centres of technology & innovation. After Rome fell you had a ton of squabbling kingdoms & tribes fighting, lack of peace, stability & safety, the biggest enemies of a functioning economy.
But I wouldn't drag the dark ages all the way to the renaissance, it was getting better around the age of Charlemagne & onward, the early middle ages were dark but the high middle ages were anything but dark tbh.
@@LudietHistoria Have you read The Inheritance of Rome? It's a great book on the topic that gets into a bit of the things you mentioned about the slow transition from Roman identity in Western Europe.
@@LudietHistoria your view of the middle age date from the 19th... You might want to read more recent historians...
Playing as the Mongols is fun. It's a decision to form the empire so you can kick start it early as a young Genghis. It's fun to see how far you can go, I managed to get all of India and IndoChina aswell as the historical conquest under me.
Bine frate! Imi place sa ma uit la clipurile tale ^^ ( Cool video brother, I love watching your videos) continua sa le realizezi.
mersi mult
How many historical errors are you going to make this video
ludi: yes
name 12 of them Kappa
Very nice video, it would be great to watch a series about surviving from the Rashidun rise.
Btw the province assimilation after 6 months from the siege is the same event that is used in the barbarian migration in the "migration age" against Rome
Actually, by 630, at least the language of administartion was greek, and we can assume that the lingua franca in the empire was also greek. Justinian was the last emperor to govern the empire in Latin.
The name "Byzantine Empire" originates in the 1700s if I remember correctly (it's been too long since I looked it up). The byzzies called themselves the Romans (the official title of the emperor was Rhomaion Basileus which translates to Autocrat of the Romans). Today, historiography refers to them as Byzantine Empire because it makes it easier to distinguish from the Roman Empire and the Holy Roman Empire.
The whole Holy Roman Empire thing originated in the fact that Charlamagne bullied the pope to name him emperor as the pope had had a document forged which basically stated that Constatine left the western half of the Roman Empire under papal stweardship when the imperial court moved to Constantinople. At the time, it was widely accepted in the West and only contested by the byzzies who had a woman (!) on the throne in 800. All of this combined gave both Charlamagne and the pope a pretext to crown the King of the Franks as Emperor of the Romans because "the throne of the Empire was empty".
Also, in 630, there shouldn't be too big of a distinction between the Slavic tribes. The first split happened when some of them migerated to the Carpathian basin and the Balkans (whom later would become the South Slavs) then the second split happened when the Poles adopted Western Christianity and the Rus adopted Eastern Christianity (creating th West and East Slav distinction).
As for the Romanians, correct me if I'm wrong, but even the Romanian intelligentsia refutes the Daco-Romanian origin theory. As far as I know, it was the invading bolghars who pushed them to Wallachia from Moesia.
Great video, I always appreciate your insight on the historical aspects of this game/mods. I'm curious how you gained your vast historical knowledge?
I studied history in university
@@LudietHistoria That makes a lot of sense. I figured I would ask as I recall you studying for your pilot's license a while back so I wasn't sure! I'm glad to see your channel doing well and wish you continued success in 2022 :)
@@Strat-Guides I did my uni when I was 19, flight school when I was 27, so had a big gap between! Thanks for the well wishes Strat, you too man!
The dutch being in the german group is ABSOLUTELY reasonable. I am a native low german speaker. And i can communicate with little problems to the dutch, as low german (which was widely used in nortehrn germany) is basically dutch in a bit different.
I noticed a nation called Samo which is actually very interesting. I believe it was the first ever "organized" Slavic nation founded by a man from Francia from whom it got its name.
as someone who lives next to cornwall - this is accurate that its not counted as english in an hillarious way
Turkey is a secular nation. The fact that the Republic of Turkey is a secular state is guaranteed by the immutable provisions of the constitution. Even Erdogan cannot change that. We do not allow this.
Thats good to know!
Mehmet koyuncu . Men like you shouldn't talk about Islam,Turkey and Erdogan. You'd better shut your mouth atheist
True. Actual Turks are secular. But its our religious boomers and kurds who keep islam strong politically -_-
@@Aluunyax3 We are Muslim elhamdülillah. Keep barking and crying about Islam . You guy will never win :)
@UCbyGtNDCCuawvWQDbef9FrQ So being Muslims means being Arab or Kurd ? Damn KAMALISTS. You never change !
The True Mega Campaign: Imperator Rome, Extended Timeline, Ck3, Extended timeline part 2, Vicky 2/3, Hoi4, Extended Timeline part 3.
We german can understand parts of dutch. Yeah, for a german is super weird to hear dutch but some words in sentences are the same and when you hear closer you can understand what the person is to say to you in dutch cuz words like slagen, zitten, allebeste, kant zorgen achter, vriend, komt, frietkot and so many more.. its little bit like Ostfriesisch. Its very similiar to friesisch language. And in germany at least in my school, we had old german languages in lower saxony.
The legend that says the western part of Europe had a "dark" age before Renaissance is actually false. At least in term of culture. There was still a lot of rich aspects culturally speaking. If we consider the litterature, there was actually a lot , and really a lot of writters by this time. Some of them are still known today. I'll take the exemple of Chrétien de Troyes, a french poet who wrote The Song of Roland, wich is a master piece of poetry, or simply is considered the inventor of arthurian litterature wich is also a big deal.
The fact middle age is considered as a dark age is a legacy from the people who lived in Renaissance. They wanted to glorify themselves by degrading their ancestors, and assimilate themselves as the true successors of ancient people
Sorry for my bad english, as a french speaker we are wellknown for our bad english.
Really good video Ludi, I enjoyed it a lot ! Keep it up !
So true! Many of the Reinassance literature is influenced by medieval works, like Dante´s. Same with the arquitecture. Roman arquitecture was impressive, but also gothic cathedrals in France, England, Germany. It's really unfair for medieval History to be treated that way...
There have never been such a cluster of Polish in Ukraine in all of history not to mention 2021... By the way, a very good point about Kyivan Rus.
they nailed it at Dayak at the borneo. Dayak is actually has more ethnic under it like Iban, Melanau, Bidayuh, etc. but, yeah, putting Dayak is an okay move to put it as culture in most part of borneo
Man I really love when you are talking about history and culture stuff. Keep it going!
Thx bro
22:30 very interesting linguistic information ludi, i appreciate it a lot
Glad i could share
I really like your historical breakdown. Well done.
Respect from Turkey bro, you are doing a great job, just keep it up:)
Thank you! Will do!
the fact that they added plalestine is nice but would like to see north cyprus too
Please Ludi, save Byzantium from his horrible fate
While it was interesting to learn how "român" is pronounced in Romanian, vowel shifts are random in the end. Slavic languages have "a", just like Romanian itself has. While there are instances of pronunciations and words being artificially forced upon a language, we can be certain that the changes that occurred which differentiate the Latin "Romanus" from the various words it would become (think "Romain", "Romano", "Romanu", etc.), those changes came about organically from different influences. For instance, "ы", equivelant to the second vowel in "român" when judging by the ear, can be hypothesised to come from Slavic influence. However, it's not because of the cold. If that were so, the English and the Germans would not say "ouch" nor "ausch", as that requires quite an open mouth in weather that can be frigid.
That province defection for Rashidun is crazy OP...
I'll keep saying it:
It's hilarious that getting to see a woman play eu4 is the motivating reward. b/c I really do! it's such a rarity that it is a spectacle merely for happening. You may see this comment a few times, on a few Ludi's videos. Sorry, Ludi, not trying to opinion-spam... I just feel a compulsive need to reiterate what's really happening: it's so rare to see a woman play eu4, that to see it, is a prize for an achievement.
It really is!
as Austrian who studied in the Netherlands i think the culture group is ok the way it is. I did not need to learn the language, after a half year there you as german speaker can get used to dutch and kinda speak it without using a language course. Its bit more extreme then a swiss dialect, but still u can adapt to it.
Charlemagne had 1 kid (louis le pieux in french) and 3 grandson not 3 kids. The split between east francia west francia and lotharingia happened with his grandson I believe
Looks like Jihad in this mod works like hordes in EU3, but better thanks to free cores.