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@@MahDryBread ya I’ve learned something since becoming an adult, don’t trust public school, it omits basically anything that doesn’t make the government seem more important than it is (government is import, but it has a tendency of inflating its own importance).
I would add the qualifier that Plato and Aristotle cover *Western* philosophy. I believe China and India are notable examples of ancient civilizations that also developed their own philosophical traditions independent of both Plato and Aristotle.
One of the funniest parts of history is how Medieval Christian and Muslim philosophers tried for literally centuries to make the works of Aristotle and Plato agree with one another and the Bible/Koran.
a furries is only interested on animal with semi human body part while this maintain the animal look but unlike animal they'll act as intelligence life
Honestly I did not expect this but we don't act like animals. Not everyone acts like an animal, we just LOOK like one. Learn difference between: 1. Actual animals 2. Actual furries (humans, cosplaying as animals with HUMAN behavior)
@@KaantheKaan we are complaining because the flag he used is being used by a slavic nation that has no ties to ancient macedonia (which was greek in all aspects and some examples are: DNA (not slavic but greek), Language (not a dialect of bulgarian which btw is the language "north macedonia" uses, Culture (which is not the same what so ever since they have a slavic culture, and finally history which they do not possess since they were created in the 1990s
In my history class I was told Greeks were the first to believe that humans could figure out and understand the world around them. And that's why they were so philosophical and scientific.
Well, I didnt know that Aristotle was a slav thats new.They usually talk about alexander the great ,ah well thanks god we have the fyromians to enlighten us
He also gave Scytians modern Ukraine flag, and ancient Egypt also modern flag... Also i don't why he could trigger Greeks bacause Macedonia was never Greece... Macedonia conquered Greece not opposite way.
@@michazadkowski8516that is correct. But they are arguing about if they were Greeks or not. Which really doesn't matter. The concepts or race ams ethnicity are kinda dumb I think. But yea. Let's just stop this stupid ass name conflict by agreeing that the name macedonia can be used by any nation in the geographical region of Macedonia. You can use it for a city name, a nation's name, a river's name. I don't care. But yeah. The conflict just boils down to "These people are using our name!" Yea it's stupid. They just try to come up with reasons why they are right. But that's how people are... ah people... always people...
They were brave warriors in earlier times, and had survived and actively resisted countless invading regimes, even literally outlasting some. Resiliance is worthy of pride.
First of all, high quality gaming content is far more over saturated than high quality educational content which makes quite a sizable opportunity for those that can pull it off. Second, it's much more appealing to have someone explain everything than having to understand he topic from the beginning.
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RUclips demonetized or hides historical videos because they always hated the history section of RUclips. Before the adpocalypse we would be demonetized for saying “war” and “history “.
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You should do a video about the philosophy of the Christian neo-Platonist, Boethius. He wrote “The Consolation of Philosophy” right before his execution! His philosophy is interesting in how it synthesizes Greek and Christian philosophy. Even if you don’t make a video on it, I recommend you read it. It’s short and thought provoking.
Imagine how outrageous it was, is and will be, to tell you every decade man cannot just fight back the ancient demons of war, famine and pestilence, but that he can unlock the rules of creation to understand the universe and make it serve it so, existence should not be a written tragedy, but a workshop of untold sagas and wonders.
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9:25 if I had to make sense of this problem, I'd say it's not that murder is a vice, but a symptom of vice In general, people don't just murder, they have motives like anger, greed, jealousy and other vices The moral middle is not between too much and too little murder, but the midpoint between the aforementioned vices and their opposites
People associate North Macedonia with Macedonia so you can't blame him for using a flag associated with the name to represent a country that had no flag.
@@t.wcharles2171 Wait, I thought their flag was a golden sun on a purple background? Politics aside, that looks WAYYY cooler than the North Macedonian flag imo.
Greek Macedonians use this flag 🇬🇷. I am in no way trying to be racist or Smth, but North Macedonians are essentially of Slavic origin and have no connection to Greeks. For that matter, they have no connection to Aristotle. The dude was a Greek, spoke Greek and had Greek education. Using the North Macedonian flag to portray him is plain misleading
Macedonians dont have this red flag that this video and creator sadly made the mistake of choosing. Macedonia and all these historic figures were greeks and not slavs. It saddens me that a slavic nation is trying to claim our history and portray greek history as theres. I personally complain because i cannot allow somebody to misrepresent history. North macedonia has nothing to do with the ancient one! (which was greek in all aspects and some examples are: DNA (not slavic but greek), Language (not a dialect of bulgarian which btw is the language "north macedonia" uses, Culture (which is not the same what so ever since they have a slavic culture, and finally history which they do not possess since they were created in the 1990s
It always baffled me why Plato (and his Socrates) were much more well known in the west. While Aristotle was much better known in Muslim and Jewish culture. He is probably the most respected non Jewish scholar in judaism. As one of (if not most) the most important, Jewish secular and religious scholars, maimonides based a lot of his work on him, and gave him a lot of credit. But even before that, even though Plato's point of view on God is very similar to traditional judaism thought (as noted by philo, or plato's neoplatonian nickname as the greek moses). Rabbis chose to imbrace Aristotlian philosophy as the basis to secular ethics (basically how a man should live his life after obeying the rules of god). He is nicknamed in judaism as "head of the philosophers" He is also known by the Muslims as "the first teacher". But you almost never see him discussed in mainstream western culture, which embraced Socrates and plato much more. Even though their philosophy seem to be much more out of line with modern western thought.
He's not a natural fit for Christianity, "the West". Plato on the other hand is totally safe for it philosophically. It's almost the same thing. Judaism and Islam are much less spiritual, especially the latter and care more about this world than some other world. Modern western thought, like Science and Liberalism, are also very much Platonist and Christian. Science is a flight of fancy, a "theory", and it is judge by nature, the "experiment" or some other men "peer review". Liberalism is about getting to a perfect economy, creating a perfect society, looking for pure "values" like being equal. It's also about the individual first, just like Plato where you have this one guy out of the cave, or the philosopher king. It's this idea of a perfect man, which is under humanism. Aristotle starts with the senses and experience, and reasons from there strictly, so it's quite constrained, not "free thinking", it's logic all the way through, not a bit of logic and much poetry, so it's dry and not emotional, not something that can move a modern man even one bit. It's also extremely social, where virtue is based on tradition and good examples of ancestors, while politics is done for the common good, not the interest of the few which is what we want. Science especially and atheists hate him and have made propaganda against him since Galileo up to this day. They would rather worship a liar and someone wrong but an individual hero for freedom, than someone that basically created them. They will use him covertly and deny him publicly. So that's why you don't see him, but almost everything that actually works in our modern society comes from him. If not for him, people would still be praying while hoping for the end of the world and leave this "body" that makes them miserable and join the heavens.
I’m loving these videos! I already like philosophy by itself, but these videos make it much more entertaining while still providing enough information to make me think about the world around us. I’m happy i found your channel, keep up the good work!!
Did this man really start the video with "Age of Mythology" music? Im so enraptured with the nostalgia of it all that I can hardly pay attention to the narrative he's building. The absolute mad lad.
Wikipedia says that Aristotle "Influenced virtually ll subsequent Western philosophy, especially Aristotelianism e. g. Averroes, Aquinas. Also pre-Enlightenment science"
I mean very good video , but you had to add the vardarskan (fake macedonian) countryball as Macedonia ? You could just have added the sun of Vergina with a blue background :/
You should do a video on Thomas Aquinas, as he was a major reason for the reintroduction of Aristotle's beliefs into the West and quite literally changed the entire foundation of the Catholic Church through moving it away from the Platoist line of thinking to one more in line with Aristotle.
I think the reason why the Greeks made poor also feel it was because hard Elmoral nations can probably tell you what's closer to right and wrong. As they get to live what's wrong and right with their society every day
Murder and stealing are acts, not virtues. It's not exceptions. Basically both are bad because they are unjust, you take out the right of someone, right to life, right to their property. So those acts are always bad, and they are bad by definition as well, it's implied in the words: there is no good murder or good stealing. It's true that in some cases, we don't have words for the extremes, but it does not mean they aren't there, but I think like most moderns, you think virtues are just some value in-between two values, but it's not the case. The point of a virtue is the potential to act reasonably towards that just middle, it's the habit of doing that over and over again, or just be ready mentally for it if there is no circumstance that warrants it. It's not about do this or do that, like a law or a value would do, it's about giving general categories to think about, two extremes to consider with the just middle, and adapt to the situation through reasoning the means to achieve it. If you achieve the mean, you gave a good example for others. So virtues are art, not values. There is just no art of killing, or arts of stealing, because they are against the law and unjust. People that do those arts would be called clever, not virtuous. Clever in doing bad things.
You uploaded two videos in quick succession, this video and a video titled "Give me your money". On my frontpage only the latter showed up. I recently subbed to your channel after watching your Kenshi video. I had no idea you would do something like Polandball philosophy and didn't remember your name. I figured you were some gaming youtuber asking for money. You almost lost me there. Maybe you should consider that if you want to grow your channel.
I'd agree with Aristotle on the moderation part. Too much murder is bad. Too little murder is also bad. Imagine you see a man who is about to kill multiple innocent people. Many would agree that killing this man now is not bad. I guess the term used shouldn't be murder but hesitance to kill. Too little hesitance to kill and you will kill unjustifiably. Too much and you will not kill when it is necessary to prevent terrible consequences. Same for adultery. Adultery usually stems from a lack of sexual restraint. Too little sexual restraint and you will become an adulterer. Too much and you won't be able o bring joy to your partner/reproduce. Murder and adultery in and of themselves aren't virtues, in as much as a man can have courage, can have pride, can have hesitance to kill, but he cannot have murder and he cannot have adultery. Those are the result of his extreme character traits, not traits themselves but rather the result of traits. You should be careful when classifying these things. For example while I agree with Aristotle on virtues, I think the opposite of that principle on opinions. I think in many cases opinions are the result of compromises, and assuming there can only be one truth, it's unlikely it is found in the compromise, because if only one of the original opinions is true, the compromise will always be false, and the truth is in one of the extremes. For example two people claim 2+2=4 and 2+2=6. The compromise would be 2+2=5, which is false. On the other hand it might be that two opinions are not mutually exclusive even if they may seem to be at first, in which case it might be that both are true.
Yeah, for the murder/rape question, I think it is better to call it killing and/or sex. Because Murder is the extreme unlawful version of killing, and Rape is the extreme unlawful version of sex.
@@P99s-s don't countryball rules follow promote using national flags for personalities of a specific ethnicity ? The same way Prussians are depicted as Germans and not Poles .
@@k-techpl7222 Ideological descendant of Aristotle who causes controversy. It's 100% Ayn Rand. He was the only philosopher she actually claimed to owe a debt to and Ezekiel called Aristotle's egoism into the conversation too.
So please stop being angry about stupid things. Let’s just agree that everything in the macedonia geographic region can be called macedonia. Whether that be people, objects or places.
@@youtubeuserb621 if you think that history is a "stupid thing" were people can just change it to suit their political agendas you are just ignorant a.f.
idk aristotle is a little right about murder if you frame it in the sense that murder is the extreme point of the spectrum of killing, where there can be reasons to kill, but murder is most extreme? who knows
So you made Aristotle, who was born is Greek Halkidike,which was never part of north macedonia, be represented by a north macedonian countryball? Instant unsubscribe.
What's wrong with Aristotle being a platonist? I mean I agree Plato got a lot wrong, but which parts did Aristotle keep which he shouldn't have in your mind? And in what ways did the primitive science of his time hold him back? It may have held his scientific work back, but the best thing about philosophy is that most of it is just logic. It's like math. Give a man a pen and paper, infinite time and a decent amount of intellectual capability and he can create all of modern and future math. Similarly while philosophy can benefit from a framework to build it around it really requires fairly little hard data which requires science to attain.
It's not really accurate to say Aristotle was lost until the renaissance, his works were translated into Latin in the 12th century, and Aristotelianism was the foundation of the most significant philosophical/theological schools of the middle ages, scholasticism, which is still the most prominent school of thought in the Catholic church today. Also, the meme of the Christian dark ages vs the Muslim golden age is it's own(extremely oversimplified and inaccurate) beast that I am not going to attempt to cover
Adultery is bad because it is an act from the result of extreme lust. The healthy middle would be satisfying sexual desire in a fulfilling relationship, one built upon more than passion.
In my opinion ethics isn't any constant. It's shapeable thing shaped by You. And here is the example: How do you think Holocaust was accepted by millions of Germans? They had their ethical and moral code afterall, which i don't think was already directed on extermination Jews. Yes it was in part work of propaganda, but still all of it happened in minds of these pepole. I don't think that speech of a short man could just simply make views for them for years. It only helped in in creating a moral and ethical code for these pepole.
Oh no. You've fallen into the dark ages trap. I'm sorry but both Plato and Aristotle were seen as boons of society in the middle, not "dark", but middle ages. Also all of the foundations in science and philosophy were in spite of the terrible "renaissance". Not in delight of it.
@CHAOSCANDIDATE no im just pointing out how he mistakenly put a slavic flag on greeks! if i had to feel something it would be sadness since many slavs in vardarska get fed propaganda and believe in a lie for the majority of their lifetime. So if you are one of them i want you to know that i feel extremely sad right now and i hope your government some day stops spreading propaganda and using you! Have a nice day!
Don't know if anyone had covered this before in the comments. But I'd like to discuss the matter of murder and adultery Radicals. Sure Aristotle did not explicitly state that their is a happy medium for murder and adultery but at the same time assuming this is Aristotles line of reasoning their is a fine line. Murder is wrong I do agree. But that absolute answer becomes mucky when circumstances cause if the murder was caused by a act of self preservation that would count as a ethical murder. You did not provoke violence which makes you a killer. But you didn't let the person who is intending/attempting to murder you finish the job. You therefore survived and it doesent cost on your conscious.
I would frame it as the right amount of "killing" and/or "sex". Murder and Rape are legal terms for a crime, e.g. the unwanted unlawful extreme. Murder is the unwanted unlawful extreme form of killing, which we know we need some of. And Rape is the unwanted unlawful extreme form of sex, which we know we need some of.
I'm sorry but why do you make Greek philosophers seem like of other ethnicities. For example Turkish of (FYRO-)"North Makedonian".....I just don't get it. Aristotle was Greek same as the sinics which you made Turkish.... You know that right ?
I know a guy that hated plato I think I understand why he hated him now because I hate plato now too the fu ck er litterally said ignorance should be the philosophy
Wow forgot greek is democratic. And long time i heard of philosophies for 2 years, i finally realized the reasons why greek is so much in debt. They should stay any forms of government that isnt corrupt.
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you study or studied philosophy?
China had philosophy
I'm loving the philosophy lessons, this is much easier to follow than when I was taught it in high school. Thanks!
wait yall learn this in school?
@@joelbachmann10 Yeah, in grade 12 I took philosophy
@@MahDryBread ya I’ve learned something since becoming an adult, don’t trust public school, it omits basically anything that doesn’t make the government seem more important than it is (government is import, but it has a tendency of inflating its own importance).
@@MahDryBread Still awkward to see you here, but nice to see you
I would add the qualifier that Plato and Aristotle cover *Western* philosophy. I believe China and India are notable examples of ancient civilizations that also developed their own philosophical traditions independent of both Plato and Aristotle.
Yeah, but you can see it as “obvious” since they are wealthy and academic.
Also bonus for India since they have fragmented states due to terrain.
But really though, videos about confusion or buddhist philosophy would be a great idea
My homeboy better talk about Aquinas soon...
“Aquinas spoke of the mythical city on the hill. Soon that city will be a reality, and we will be crowned its kings. Or better than kings- gods.”
Our boy Aquinas still booming after a thousand years
Nah, some lolbetarian chick is apparently more important than the Angelic Doctor
Finally a Greek philosopher that wasn't talking absolute nonsense. Looking at you Plato
Aristotle had his own shortcomings...
But at least Ayn Rand fixed it👌.
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EVENTUALLY...
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@@refrigator plucked chicken pog
He must’ve been on drugs
One of the funniest parts of history is how Medieval Christian and Muslim philosophers tried for literally centuries to make the works of Aristotle and Plato agree with one another and the Bible/Koran.
Quran not koran little mistake
@@neondalek7774 that's like spelling the bible as buyble
Aquinas did an absolutely amazing job marrying Aristotle and Christianity.
So good that the church made most of Aristotle's beliefs dogma.
Quran is spelled Koran in my language
7:50 "a man can not achieve Eudaemonia by acting like a dog"
Don't tell the furries, you'll break their hearts.
Frurris: but im a fox
a furries is only interested on animal with semi human body part while this maintain the animal look but unlike animal they'll act as intelligence life
Honestly I did not expect this but we don't act like animals.
Not everyone acts like an animal, we just LOOK like one.
Learn difference between:
1. Actual animals
2. Actual furries (humans, cosplaying as animals with HUMAN behavior)
@@yeboxpacf_2505 ALL the same crap
@@brunaotube not that far or that close.
But why are you using the flag of a Modern Slavic nation for someone who was born in Ancient (non-slavic) Macedonia?
Cus it looks cool
The symbol is still fitting
@Yourtuyt r The Vergina sun maybe? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedonia_%28ancient_kingdom%29
No one's complaining about the scythians using the ukrainian ball or the ancient egyptians using the modern egyptian ball
@@KaantheKaan we are complaining because the flag he used is being used by a slavic nation that has no ties to ancient macedonia (which was greek in all aspects and some examples are: DNA (not slavic but greek), Language (not a dialect of bulgarian which btw is the language "north macedonia" uses, Culture (which is not the same what so ever since they have a slavic culture, and finally history which they do not possess since they were created in the 1990s
Very informative and entertaining! These illustrations definitely take it up a notch! 👏👏
In my history class I was told Greeks were the first to believe that humans could figure out and understand the world around them.
And that's why they were so philosophical and scientific.
Well, I didnt know that Aristotle was a slav thats new.They usually talk about alexander the great ,ah well thanks god we have the fyromians to enlighten us
You can see how slav where before vodka
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While one of the most amazing videos ever existed, it also can trigger millions of Greeks, depicting ancient Macedonians as North Macedoniaball.
They get triggered for a stupid reason. Well everyone in the Balkans get triggered for stupid reasons.
@@youtubeuserb621 if you consider national identity and preservation of history stupid, then yeah, we do get triggered for a stupid reason.
@@panagiotispotamitis9872 but history is being preserved. And national identity is something people choose.
He also gave Scytians modern Ukraine flag, and ancient Egypt also modern flag... Also i don't why he could trigger Greeks bacause Macedonia was never Greece... Macedonia conquered Greece not opposite way.
@@michazadkowski8516that is correct. But they are arguing about if they were Greeks or not. Which really doesn't matter. The concepts or race ams ethnicity are kinda dumb I think.
But yea. Let's just stop this stupid ass name conflict by agreeing that the name macedonia can be used by any nation in the geographical region of Macedonia. You can use it for a city name, a nation's name, a river's name. I don't care. But yeah. The conflict just boils down to "These people are using our name!" Yea it's stupid. They just try to come up with reasons why they are right. But that's how people are... ah people... always people...
Uhm bruh you're criminally underrated
8:50
>Poland
>Well deserved pride
lmao
I see nothing wrong with it
They were brave warriors in earlier times, and had survived and actively resisted countless invading regimes, even literally outlasting some.
Resiliance is worthy of pride.
Genuinely made me laugh with the burning corrupt democracy graphic! Poor athens-ball ;(
Why do obscure gaming channels tend to pivot towards high brow speeches? Do an analysis on that please.
Very well made video btw
Lots of time on their hands to do of reasonings
First of all, high quality gaming content is far more over saturated than high quality educational content which makes quite a sizable opportunity for those that can pull it off. Second, it's much more appealing to have someone explain everything than having to understand he topic from the beginning.
Good video, but why did you have to put Greeks as Skopjans?
you're mad because the true macedonians are slavs
@@XIXCentury go read a proper history book
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Damn wtf is wrong with RUclips algorithm. My heart hurts seeing how less reach this video attained :(
Of course RUclips’s algorithm is messed up, look at their policy. RUclips did demonetize a video on the Holocaust, since there is RUclips kids that is supposed to be for kids RUclips just did an action that says “I believe that high-schoolers shouldn’t learn about the Holocaust.” Then they said this by saying that they demonetized the video for being disturbing.
It’s an industrial grade genocide, it’s supposed to be disturbing. Those who aren’t disturbed by it either want to repeat it or are denying it.
Edit: a link was for some reason made here.
RUclips demonetized or hides historical videos because they always hated the history section of RUclips. Before the adpocalypse we would be demonetized for saying “war” and “history “.
My first comment was to show that RUclips is as immoral as any company. My second comment was to show that RUclips always targeted history.
See the cynical historian’s “RUclips suppresses historical content” for more information.
@@californiaball2599 what Is NSFW in a video of a famous philosofer?
@@pietroilconte2436 wait, what?
You should do a video about the philosophy of the Christian neo-Platonist, Boethius. He wrote “The Consolation of Philosophy” right before his execution! His philosophy is interesting in how it synthesizes Greek and Christian philosophy. Even if you don’t make a video on it, I recommend you read it. It’s short and thought provoking.
Imagine how outrageous it was, is and will be, to tell you every decade man cannot just fight back the ancient demons of war, famine and pestilence, but that he can unlock the rules of creation to understand the universe and make it serve it so, existence should not be a written tragedy, but a workshop of untold sagas and wonders.
Hmm, if we’re focused on Ancient Greece, could you do a episode on some of the more unknown but more interesting city states?
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Thanks for the video
incredible content man, i'm a liberarian whos into Ayn Rand readings and can clearly see connections here
9:25 if I had to make sense of this problem, I'd say it's not that murder is a vice, but a symptom of vice
In general, people don't just murder, they have motives like anger, greed, jealousy and other vices
The moral middle is not between too much and too little murder, but the midpoint between the aforementioned vices and their opposites
So Platonist believe this is all a simulation, and Aristotists believe everything we see is both real and sensable.
Interesting…
Great vid as usual ,keep up the great work !
so Aristotle basically invented Enlightened Centrism.
Some day soon this channel will hopefully blow up this content is really good
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Oh man i just found your channel and I already love it.
the fact you made aristotle the north macedonia ball is pretty funny
It's funny because it's pretty stupid
Its inaccurate and it doesn't make sense! Was is intentional or is this guy a dunce when it comes to History??
People associate North Macedonia with Macedonia so you can't blame him for using a flag associated with the name to represent a country that had no flag.
@@t.wcharles2171 Wait, I thought their flag was a golden sun on a purple background? Politics aside, that looks WAYYY cooler than the North Macedonian flag imo.
@@KaiHung-wv3ul Macedonia had no flag the purple one is a modern invention.
Awwwww I think this might be one of my new favorite channels. You’re doing SUCH A GOOD JOB!!!!!
i could have sworn this was the tutorial guy
Why do all greek Macedonias have this flag 🇲🇰?
Greek Macedonians use this flag 🇬🇷. I am in no way trying to be racist or Smth, but North Macedonians are essentially of Slavic origin and have no connection to Greeks. For that matter, they have no connection to Aristotle. The dude was a Greek, spoke Greek and had Greek education. Using the North Macedonian flag to portray him is plain misleading
Macedonians dont have this red flag that this video and creator sadly made the mistake of choosing. Macedonia and all these historic figures were greeks and not slavs. It saddens me that a slavic nation is trying to claim our history and portray greek history as theres. I personally complain because i cannot allow somebody to misrepresent history. North macedonia has nothing to do with the ancient one! (which was greek in all aspects and some examples are: DNA (not slavic but greek), Language (not a dialect of bulgarian which btw is the language "north macedonia" uses, Culture (which is not the same what so ever since they have a slavic culture, and finally history which they do not possess since they were created in the 1990s
@@RektedbyPaler yeah he had done this in previous videos
It always baffled me why Plato (and his Socrates) were much more well known in the west.
While Aristotle was much better known in Muslim and Jewish culture.
He is probably the most respected non Jewish scholar in judaism.
As one of (if not most) the most important, Jewish secular and religious scholars, maimonides based a lot of his work on him, and gave him a lot of credit.
But even before that, even though Plato's point of view on God is very similar to traditional judaism thought (as noted by philo, or plato's neoplatonian nickname as the greek moses).
Rabbis chose to imbrace Aristotlian philosophy as the basis to secular ethics (basically how a man should live his life after obeying the rules of god).
He is nicknamed in judaism as "head of the philosophers"
He is also known by the Muslims as "the first teacher".
But you almost never see him discussed in mainstream western culture, which embraced Socrates and plato much more.
Even though their philosophy seem to be much more out of line with modern western thought.
He's not a natural fit for Christianity, "the West". Plato on the other hand is totally safe for it philosophically. It's almost the same thing.
Judaism and Islam are much less spiritual, especially the latter and care more about this world than some other world.
Modern western thought, like Science and Liberalism, are also very much Platonist and Christian. Science is a flight of fancy, a "theory", and it is judge by nature, the "experiment" or some other men "peer review". Liberalism is about getting to a perfect economy, creating a perfect society, looking for pure "values" like being equal. It's also about the individual first, just like Plato where you have this one guy out of the cave, or the philosopher king. It's this idea of a perfect man, which is under humanism.
Aristotle starts with the senses and experience, and reasons from there strictly, so it's quite constrained, not "free thinking", it's logic all the way through, not a bit of logic and much poetry, so it's dry and not emotional, not something that can move a modern man even one bit. It's also extremely social, where virtue is based on tradition and good examples of ancestors, while politics is done for the common good, not the interest of the few which is what we want.
Science especially and atheists hate him and have made propaganda against him since Galileo up to this day. They would rather worship a liar and someone wrong but an individual hero for freedom, than someone that basically created them. They will use him covertly and deny him publicly. So that's why you don't see him, but almost everything that actually works in our modern society comes from him. If not for him, people would still be praying while hoping for the end of the world and leave this "body" that makes them miserable and join the heavens.
I’m loving these videos! I already like philosophy by itself, but these videos make it much more entertaining while still providing enough information to make me think about the world around us. I’m happy i found your channel, keep up the good work!!
Did this man really start the video with "Age of Mythology" music? Im so enraptured with the nostalgia of it all that I can hardly pay attention to the narrative he's building. The absolute mad lad.
i like how he starts and says ancient Greece was only good at war
Wikipedia says that Aristotle
"Influenced virtually ll subsequent Western philosophy, especially Aristotelianism e. g. Averroes, Aquinas. Also pre-Enlightenment science"
Came for philosophy stayed for the AOM Greek theme.
my two favorite philosophers so far Aristotle and Socrates two guys I can get behind.
how tf do you like BOTH
@@mushroomy9899 cus why not.
@@jacklau2558 they oppose each other in like every ways
@@mushroomy9899 doesn't mean I can't like them
Man's teaching me more about philosophy than everyone else combined.
I mean very good video , but you had to add the vardarskan (fake macedonian) countryball as Macedonia ? You could just have added the sun of Vergina with a blue background :/
You should do a video on Thomas Aquinas, as he was a major reason for the reintroduction of Aristotle's beliefs into the West and quite literally changed the entire foundation of the Catholic Church through moving it away from the Platoist line of thinking to one more in line with Aristotle.
I think the reason why the Greeks made poor also feel it was because hard Elmoral nations can probably tell you what's closer to right and wrong. As they get to live what's wrong and right with their society every day
Murder and stealing are acts, not virtues. It's not exceptions.
Basically both are bad because they are unjust, you take out the right of someone, right to life, right to their property. So those acts are always bad, and they are bad by definition as well, it's implied in the words: there is no good murder or good stealing.
It's true that in some cases, we don't have words for the extremes, but it does not mean they aren't there, but I think like most moderns, you think virtues are just some value in-between two values, but it's not the case. The point of a virtue is the potential to act reasonably towards that just middle, it's the habit of doing that over and over again, or just be ready mentally for it if there is no circumstance that warrants it. It's not about do this or do that, like a law or a value would do, it's about giving general categories to think about, two extremes to consider with the just middle, and adapt to the situation through reasoning the means to achieve it. If you achieve the mean, you gave a good example for others. So virtues are art, not values. There is just no art of killing, or arts of stealing, because they are against the law and unjust. People that do those arts would be called clever, not virtuous. Clever in doing bad things.
Good Job
You uploaded two videos in quick succession, this video and a video titled "Give me your money". On my frontpage only the latter showed up. I recently subbed to your channel after watching your Kenshi video. I had no idea you would do something like Polandball philosophy and didn't remember your name. I figured you were some gaming youtuber asking for money. You almost lost me there. Maybe you should consider that if you want to grow your channel.
I'd agree with Aristotle on the moderation part. Too much murder is bad. Too little murder is also bad. Imagine you see a man who is about to kill multiple innocent people. Many would agree that killing this man now is not bad. I guess the term used shouldn't be murder but hesitance to kill. Too little hesitance to kill and you will kill unjustifiably. Too much and you will not kill when it is necessary to prevent terrible consequences.
Same for adultery. Adultery usually stems from a lack of sexual restraint. Too little sexual restraint and you will become an adulterer. Too much and you won't be able o bring joy to your partner/reproduce.
Murder and adultery in and of themselves aren't virtues, in as much as a man can have courage, can have pride, can have hesitance to kill, but he cannot have murder and he cannot have adultery. Those are the result of his extreme character traits, not traits themselves but rather the result of traits.
You should be careful when classifying these things. For example while I agree with Aristotle on virtues, I think the opposite of that principle on opinions. I think in many cases opinions are the result of compromises, and assuming there can only be one truth, it's unlikely it is found in the compromise, because if only one of the original opinions is true, the compromise will always be false, and the truth is in one of the extremes. For example two people claim 2+2=4 and 2+2=6. The compromise would be 2+2=5, which is false. On the other hand it might be that two opinions are not mutually exclusive even if they may seem to be at first, in which case it might be that both are true.
Yeah, for the murder/rape question, I think it is better to call it killing and/or sex. Because Murder is the extreme unlawful version of killing, and Rape is the extreme unlawful version of sex.
So this guy drew Aristotle, Cassander and Alexander as Skopjians, Ptolemy as Egyptian
LMAO, maybe draw Etruscans as Italian?
Countryball rules
Yep, certainly didn't piss off any Macedonian Greeks, none at all.... lol
i think he is following countryball rules
@@P99s-s don't countryball rules follow promote using national flags for personalities of a specific ethnicity ? The same way Prussians are depicted as Germans and not Poles .
@@P99s-s f*ck the country ball rules nerd
13:44 Oh yeah baby where getting to talk about Objectivism !
I hope no
I think Marx is more likely. Since his ideas inspired brutal regimes, while Rand's generally didn't.
Also, Rothbard > Rand.
@@k-techpl7222 Ideological descendant of Aristotle who causes controversy. It's 100% Ayn Rand. He was the only philosopher she actually claimed to owe a debt to and Ezekiel called Aristotle's egoism into the conversation too.
i really like these kind of videos,with countryballs (the only one i can think of is kraut's video on turkey)
You should really check out Brain4Breakfast then
sad that he is using wrong flags tho :/
8:15
Aristotle was a centrist confirmed.
Only been watching for a day or so, but you really remind me of Brain4Breakfast. Keep up the good work
This is much fun then studying philosophy in high school thanks man .
Ethics is a county in south east England. There was even a TV show about it!
Egypt: 🎶oh I just can wait to be dead🎶
wrong flag there, Aristotelis & the rest of the macedonians shouldnt have the skjopian flag
@Oberst Lucy Ohh really? And what flag should we have then?
@Oberst Lucy "everyone knows what it represents" is a subjective statement.
@Oberst Lucy what it means to you doesnt mean that it aligns with what it means for someone else
So please stop being angry about stupid things. Let’s just agree that everything in the macedonia geographic region can be called macedonia. Whether that be people, objects or places.
@@youtubeuserb621 if you think that history is a "stupid thing" were people can just change it to suit their political agendas you are just ignorant a.f.
Nice video, but it would be wrong for me share it with that countryball :P :P
idk aristotle is a little right about murder if you frame it in the sense that murder is the extreme point of the spectrum of killing, where there can be reasons to kill, but murder is most extreme? who knows
2:01 Oh boy, the greeks on your channel are _not_ gonna like this...
We are mostly confused in one hand he calls Macedonia as a Greek city state but now the flag...
One of my favourite philosopher next to Ayn Rand.
So you made Aristotle, who was born is Greek Halkidike,which was never part of north macedonia, be represented by a north macedonian countryball?
Instant unsubscribe.
What's wrong with Aristotle being a platonist? I mean I agree Plato got a lot wrong, but which parts did Aristotle keep which he shouldn't have in your mind? And in what ways did the primitive science of his time hold him back? It may have held his scientific work back, but the best thing about philosophy is that most of it is just logic. It's like math. Give a man a pen and paper, infinite time and a decent amount of intellectual capability and he can create all of modern and future math. Similarly while philosophy can benefit from a framework to build it around it really requires fairly little hard data which requires science to attain.
I think the "primitive science" part was about the Geocentrism and his other ideas on science, not his philosophy.
Ayan Ran?
Thats my guess for what the next video would be.
It's not really accurate to say Aristotle was lost until the renaissance, his works were translated into Latin in the 12th century, and Aristotelianism was the foundation of the most significant philosophical/theological schools of the middle ages, scholasticism, which is still the most prominent school of thought in the Catholic church today.
Also, the meme of the Christian dark ages vs the Muslim golden age is it's own(extremely oversimplified and inaccurate) beast that I am not going to attempt to cover
Adultery is bad because it is an act from the result of extreme lust. The healthy middle would be satisfying sexual desire in a fulfilling relationship, one built upon more than passion.
hell yeah
1:07 "No Greek loved live more..."
Epicuros: (X) Doubt
Otherwise lovely and informative as always!
Oh yeah, its Farabi time isnt it this is gonna be fun
13:20 HOLD UP Who is that darkened ball?
The Islamic Abbasid Dynasty, its flag is just completely black for some reason.
The problem is when modern ethics professors go around saying things like actually murdering children is technically ethical
Love the Age of Mythology music!
Ethics
0:12 a Thucydides video would be based
Just saw the video, were you referring to Nietzsche at the end?
Shit dude nice profile picture looks cool as hell
CallMeEzekiel shows Aristotle as not greek the comment section : Explosion
Please do eastern philisophy next time
Why are you using the circus flag for Macedonia instead of the proper one?
Rip your notifications for using northern macedonia flag
In my opinion ethics isn't any constant. It's shapeable thing shaped by You. And here is the example: How do you think Holocaust was accepted by millions of Germans? They had their ethical and moral code afterall, which i don't think was already directed on extermination Jews. Yes it was in part work of propaganda, but still all of it happened in minds of these pepole. I don't think that speech of a short man could just simply make views for them for years. It only helped in in creating a moral and ethical code for these pepole.
Use the modern north macedonia's countryball is trash u should had used the greek one.
0:13 finally someone said that the greeks weren't the best at war 👏 😮
Alexander bringing down an entire empire isn’t a best at war category? You have read history that’s for sure.
Wouldn't murder be an extreme of anger, and adultery be an extreme or love/sex
Oh no. You've fallen into the dark ages trap. I'm sorry but both Plato and Aristotle were seen as boons of society in the middle, not "dark", but middle ages. Also all of the foundations in science and philosophy were in spite of the terrible "renaissance". Not in delight of it.
isnt this supposed to be a history channel? why do you show greek people with a slav flag?
@CHAOSCANDIDATE no im just pointing out how he mistakenly put a slavic flag on greeks! if i had to feel something it would be sadness since many slavs in vardarska get fed propaganda and believe in a lie for the majority of their lifetime. So if you are one of them i want you to know that i feel extremely sad right now and i hope your government some day stops spreading propaganda and using you! Have a nice day!
@CHAOSCANDIDATE 🇲🇰🎪🇲🇰🎪
Around 7 minutes, bro got a little personal
i would phrase eudaimonia as fullfillment
i wonder who this ideological descendant is.
Almost certainly Ayn Rand.
The "u" in Ezekiel stands for "unbiased"
It's relly easy to see aristotle's influence in tomist filosophy
Don't know if anyone had covered this before in the comments.
But I'd like to discuss the matter of murder and adultery Radicals.
Sure Aristotle did not explicitly state that their is a happy medium for murder and adultery but at the same time assuming this is Aristotles line of reasoning their is a fine line. Murder is wrong I do agree. But that absolute answer becomes mucky when circumstances cause if the murder was caused by a act of self preservation that would count as a ethical murder. You did not provoke violence which makes you a killer. But you didn't let the person who is intending/attempting to murder you finish the job. You therefore survived and it doesent cost on your conscious.
I would frame it as the right amount of "killing" and/or "sex". Murder and Rape are legal terms for a crime, e.g. the unwanted unlawful extreme. Murder is the unwanted unlawful extreme form of killing, which we know we need some of. And Rape is the unwanted unlawful extreme form of sex, which we know we need some of.
Aristotle gang
I'm sorry but why do you make Greek philosophers seem like of other ethnicities. For example Turkish of (FYRO-)"North Makedonian".....I just don't get it. Aristotle was Greek same as the sinics which you made Turkish.... You know that right ?
(unpopular opinion) ancient greek philosofy is kinda overrated
age of empires
Based and Macedonian pilled
I know a guy that hated plato I think I understand why he hated him now because I hate plato now too the fu ck er litterally said ignorance should be the philosophy
Wow forgot greek is democratic. And long time i heard of philosophies for 2 years, i finally realized the reasons why greek is so much in debt. They should stay any forms of government that isnt corrupt.