Why Did Socrates Die? Alcibiades Edition | Polandball/Countryball History and Philosophy

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  • @CallMeEzekiel
    @CallMeEzekiel  4 года назад +73

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  • @lucianoprea983
    @lucianoprea983 4 года назад +375

    I love the fact that the chanel that helped me learn Vic 2 and ck2 is now a history ball chanel.

    • @Uranium-jj7le
      @Uranium-jj7le 4 года назад +33

      And quite a good one at that

    • @TrafficPartyHatTest
      @TrafficPartyHatTest 3 года назад +2

      So it got better?

    • @FoxHat
      @FoxHat 3 года назад +3

      He thought us the games and the history played out in them so that we can make our own

    • @cookiemuffin3208
      @cookiemuffin3208 3 года назад +2

      Here's to hoping he helps us learn vic 3

    • @goose93
      @goose93 Год назад

      I still don't understand ck2

  • @noaccount4
    @noaccount4 4 года назад +179

    Of worthy note is that one of Socrates's students was a lovely chap called Xenophon, who led 10,000 Greek Hoplites through the entire Persian Empire whilst under constant attack and outnumbered by a few million men. It's a long and hilarious story starting with Xenophon not even supposed to be there - and his last contact with Socrates was Socrates berating him for asking the oracle "when should I go" instead of "should I go," with Socrates knowing Xenophon was cheating the gods. Must've been really sad arriving home only to find Socrates was dead.
    Even funnier is that Socrates taught Plato, and Plato taught Aristotle - whose student Alexander traced the footsteps of Xenophon, leading his armies throughout Persia and the known world.

    • @akiamini4006
      @akiamini4006 3 года назад +2

      I dont get it how is that funny bruh

    • @noaccount4
      @noaccount4 3 года назад +15

      @@akiamini4006 It's a small world full of weird coincidences

    • @CallMeEzekiel
      @CallMeEzekiel  3 года назад +27

      You might enjoy this: ruclips.net/video/yBe9tp0xT-4/видео.html

  • @MegaTang1234
    @MegaTang1234 4 года назад +132

    Alcibiades literally ruined everything. That's pretty impressive.

    • @Ian-yf7uf
      @Ian-yf7uf 2 года назад +3

      All because he was hot. This doesn't even get into Alcibiades sleeping with the spartan kings wife and the Persians kings wife.

  • @MahDryBread
    @MahDryBread 4 года назад +130

    Not enough channels use Age of Mythology music. Seriously, awesome soundtrack.
    It's cool to finally get to learn some of this stuff! Most of the stuff I learned about this time period would have been taught to me before I had an interest in history so I probably wasn't paying attention at the time.

    • @zealandsword9557
      @zealandsword9557 2 года назад +1

      Brought back memories from my childhood for sure.

  • @thelordofcringe
    @thelordofcringe 4 года назад +112

    Something to keep in mind is that nearly all records of Alcibiades are from people who hated him.
    And they made him sound that damn impressive, which makes you wonder just how much more amazing he was in reality.

    • @powerist209
      @powerist209 3 года назад +7

      Well, Plato too, and he was his cousin.
      Then again not getting well paid jobs and stigmatized due to his relations might sour his opinion.

    • @Ian-yf7uf
      @Ian-yf7uf 2 года назад +1

      Alcibiades faced the equivalent of Athenian special forces in gold armor rather than run for the rest of his life. Also, he slept with a ton of kings wives and did some other amazing stunts.

  • @oscarwind4266
    @oscarwind4266 3 года назад +42

    In my 9th grade history class a cult was formed around my teacher and she joked that my classmates parents where going to acuse her of Corrupting the Youth and force her to drink hemlock.

    • @max7971
      @max7971 2 года назад

      Imagine my shock, when parents don’t want to see their children pulled into a “cult” focused around some midwit who manipulates 15 year olds.

    • @oscarwind4266
      @oscarwind4266 2 года назад

      @@max7971 oh come on, the school is full of joke cults like that. There's a cult to the bald members of the administration, a cult to a freind of mine's toes, a cult of lammasus. I don't why my school is full of them but it sure is funny

    • @goose93
      @goose93 Год назад +1

      A cult formed around your teacher? How?

    • @oscarwind4266
      @oscarwind4266 Год назад +1

      @goose93 I dunno. Some joke we started, it wasn't like an actual cult, where anything werid happened, just a running gag.

  • @Dataism
    @Dataism 4 года назад +146

    1:49 Wait a second, isn't this the same logic post-modernism follows? Doesn't this mean that post-modernism is just neo-sophistiry?

    • @joey199412
      @joey199412 4 года назад +84

      Fun fact. Sophistry was the dominant philosophy in every society before collapse. It's seen as a sign of intellectual stagnation that results in eventual collapse of society. It happened with the Bronze Age Collapse. The Han collapse in China. The Indus Valley civilization collapse in India. And the start of the dark ages at the time of the Western Roman Empire's collapse.
      Sophism becoming more prominent again. Could signal that society is once again stagnating intellectually and we might be in for a collapse in a couple of centuries if it continues.

    • @DerPinguim
      @DerPinguim 4 года назад +40

      @@joey199412 Someone save this comment for in a few hundred years you might be considered a genius for predicting the fall of modern civilization

    • @caiawlodarski5339
      @caiawlodarski5339 3 года назад +17

      @@joey199412 Source ? This seems like made up bullshit

    • @MrAntraxico
      @MrAntraxico 3 года назад +22

      @@joey199412 Fun fact when you put "fun fact" before your sentence it has 75% probability of not being true and 80% probability of being read in its entirety.

    • @artofthepossible7329
      @artofthepossible7329 3 года назад +5

      Pretty much.
      For the more modern influence, observe Nietzsche.

  • @yaboistuds7087
    @yaboistuds7087 4 года назад +17

    This channel is so underrated

  • @maciejkamil
    @maciejkamil 4 года назад +23

    I always thought that Socrates was completely innocent. This video helped me to understand why he was sentenced to death. Thanks!

  • @Tarik360
    @Tarik360 2 года назад +2

    2:10
    YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THIS ARGUMENT STRETCHED *THAT* FAR BACK?

  • @tyrannicfool2503
    @tyrannicfool2503 4 года назад +8

    I just want to say I love this countryball content, I found you because of your Vic 2 videos and I stayed because of your new content. 11/10 would sub again

  • @Maxi25554
    @Maxi25554 4 года назад +11

    The whole oligarchy vs democracy thing is just another argument that history rhymes.

  • @P99s-s
    @P99s-s 4 года назад +6

    I hear that furi ost, great videos and great channel,I will watch anything you put out at this point

  • @microlobbies2378
    @microlobbies2378 4 года назад +13

    God I want Pythagoras and the bean stalk story

  • @Mr.Flame2000
    @Mr.Flame2000 4 года назад +7

    Im loving these new videos they're all perfect

  • @minecraft37007
    @minecraft37007 4 года назад +27

    Hey, I love your history videos, but it seems they don't get much views. Why don't you make your gaming videos anymore?

    • @CallMeEzekiel
      @CallMeEzekiel  4 года назад +36

      I had been wanting to start making history/humanities videos for a while, and a good opportunity presented itself after I finished making the EvE Online video because that's when I ran out of games I wanted to cover.
      By the way, the relative viewership is deceptive. The earlier gaming videos got their tens (and sometimes hundreds) of thousands of views over the course of months and years. The history/humanities videos are still young. Besides, the more I make these videos, the larger their fanbase will become -> which means faster growth of the fan-base -> which means a larger fanbase -> which will create a positive cycle. That's one of the key reasons the gaming videos are doing so well now. We just have to recreate that for the history/humanities videos, which you can help by sharing them.
      I hope this clears things up!

    • @enclavesoldier8893
      @enclavesoldier8893 2 года назад +1

      @@CallMeEzekiel May I say that you have made a great choice, I am glad you’ve done it and I wish you well in your future career on RUclips.

  • @jdsonical
    @jdsonical 4 года назад +48

    he is the new brain4breakfast!
    rip brain4breakfast, you will be missed

    • @zaikolebolsh5724
      @zaikolebolsh5724 4 года назад +10

      I don't think this is of good taste, I have a bit of a taboo with "replacing" those who are gone

    • @PatriotMapper
      @PatriotMapper 3 года назад +1

      B4B will always be missed, but don’t let greif control you. Enjoy CallMeEzeike because it’s good, not a ‘new’ brain4breakfast.

  • @Bornchristmas
    @Bornchristmas 4 года назад +2

    Your videos make me happy, thank you.

  • @minecraftia7626
    @minecraftia7626 4 года назад +3

    Hey idk if you still do anything Vic2 related, but if you do, can you make a guide to an imperialistic/colonial USA? I've been thinking about starting a game with that mindset but I want a good direction to head towards. (Also idk if this would change the guide but I also plan on converting the save to HOI4 when completed.) It would be base vic2 with Heart of Darkness and A House Divided.

  • @marcofrank6542
    @marcofrank6542 4 года назад +3

    why do you have 20k subs this is absolutley amazing

  • @finntraynor3904
    @finntraynor3904 4 года назад +3

    I really liked this video !

  • @byzantinereal3323
    @byzantinereal3323 3 года назад +1

    Age of mythology music in the background

  • @casparvoncampenhausen5249
    @casparvoncampenhausen5249 3 года назад +3

    I think Socrates actually only barely was ruled guilty, by ~7 votes (out of 201)

  • @Rayndrops
    @Rayndrops 4 года назад +6

    Plato was not a liar fite me

  • @aidan-4759
    @aidan-4759 4 года назад +2

    Another great video!

  • @ferred3056
    @ferred3056 Год назад

    5:31 assassin's creed odyssey players:
    THAT EXPLAINS A LOT!!

  • @serathus3201
    @serathus3201 4 года назад +12

    Heyy looks like I'm first, excited for this video :)

  • @JamieZero7
    @JamieZero7 17 дней назад

    5:06 I was listen to one of the dialogues it was sus. It was about the youth. I don't believe he was one but whoever translated it certainly makes it sound like it.

  • @gingerale2131
    @gingerale2131 3 года назад +1

    what does the black owl with a yellow backround mean?

  • @althesilly
    @althesilly 3 года назад +1

    After listening to this video......everything that is old is new again.

  • @Т1000-м1и
    @Т1000-м1и Год назад +1

    The Vietnamese subtitles funny tho

  • @arami187
    @arami187 10 месяцев назад

    "Socrates was charged for Corrupting the Youth"
    *Boy Buggering stops.

  • @Yuri-gf6bw
    @Yuri-gf6bw 4 года назад +8

    absolute chad dies just to prove a point

  • @leonidagrcka3979
    @leonidagrcka3979 4 года назад +6

    No dislikes, cool....

  • @Ω3103ζ
    @Ω3103ζ 3 года назад +1

    AGE OF MYTHOLOGY MUSIC AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

  • @logischernebel3513
    @logischernebel3513 4 года назад +5

    How to play CK3 plsssss^^

    • @CallMeEzekiel
      @CallMeEzekiel  4 года назад +5

      CK3 is pretty much just CK2 with prettier graphics. I go into more detail here: ruclips.net/user/postUgxyt5aSxthqVpS9Vnt4AaABCQ

  • @rostdreadnorramus4936
    @rostdreadnorramus4936 3 года назад +3

    2k likes vs 17 dislikes.
    Impressive.

  • @HowieDewitt535
    @HowieDewitt535 Год назад

    Ah no, NEVER steal a Spartan's wife. I learned that from the time I and da boys helped our boy, Paris, steal a girl named Helen.

  • @parker2891
    @parker2891 3 года назад +3

    Fun fact: Socrates and other philosophers believed in one concrete truth, meaning that experimentation and new ideas in Greece were pushed aside (including industrialization).

    • @shorewall
      @shorewall 3 года назад +7

      I don't necessarily agree with that, at least for Socrates as presented in this video. He said there was truth, but that he didn't know what it was. So that would lead to more experimentation if you followed his logic.

  • @CyberneticOrganism01
    @CyberneticOrganism01 3 года назад +1

    Subtitles aren't working... don't know why. The language defaults to Vietnamese and automatic translation doesn't work either. Kind of hard for a non-English speaker to get all the words...

  • @ElizabethMcCormick-s2n
    @ElizabethMcCormick-s2n 5 месяцев назад

    Socrates obviously thought very highly of himself!

  • @bumblingbureaucrat6110
    @bumblingbureaucrat6110 2 года назад +1

    Sophists have returned in the form of post modernists

  • @gbm6882
    @gbm6882 3 года назад +1

    thx for reading books for us, I have no attention span

  • @akiamini4006
    @akiamini4006 3 года назад +1

    Man you are so awesome thanks for all of this sincerly ! I figure i follow plato's beliefs BTW !😂😂 no universal voters and absolute freedom it is ! Thanks again man sooo much !

  • @carlitoon9451
    @carlitoon9451 2 года назад +1

    has anyone noticed how bad the captions are?

  • @TheDragonKing048
    @TheDragonKing048 4 года назад +1

    Hey ezekiel I have a request if you are willing to do it for hoi4 can you do a tutorial on the mod millennium dawn it revamps hoi4 a lot and can be a little hard to play! If nothing else end of a new beginning a huge amazing hoi4 mod is also an option I would love to learn both but just one of them would be insane thank you! (Btw I'm asking because you legit taught me hoi4 in the first place)

  • @MrJMB122
    @MrJMB122 3 года назад +2

    This great video I cring every time you say Plato Liar. I am about to complete my undergrad in philosophy at Rutgers. I feel this is just not understanding Plato.

  • @CliffCardi
    @CliffCardi 2 года назад

    Socrates doesn’t hold a candle to Diogenes

  • @yellowplate4539
    @yellowplate4539 3 года назад +1

    So Crates!

  • @lordvalen8133
    @lordvalen8133 3 года назад +33

    "Socrates's speciality was in making members of that high society look like morons"
    Socrates was truly the Ben Shapiro of his time.

    • @MrJMB122
      @MrJMB122 3 года назад +15

      Um no that's insult to Socrates.

  • @MrJMB122
    @MrJMB122 3 года назад +1

    Honestly I trust Plato I've read everything the man wrote.

  • @stonystarkindustries
    @stonystarkindustries Год назад

    its pronounced all-key-bee-ah-dees

  • @Te-cm8kr
    @Te-cm8kr 3 года назад +2

    Well the sophists seem to have a good point on that reason doesn’t always mean the truth. And we truly don’t know if this world is real for all things like considered we can live in a simulation as much if you live in gods hands we truly don’t know and if you read about the sophistic they discovered much of the true world today. As if you look at philosophers of Athens I would say they are mostly more wrong then right only look at Aristotle and Platon

    • @unknowngod8221
      @unknowngod8221 2 года назад +1

      but then if reality isn't real why we exists is first place?

    • @Te-cm8kr
      @Te-cm8kr 2 года назад

      @@unknowngod8221 idk it is up to each individual to decide for themselves what makes their own existence.

    • @unknowngod8221
      @unknowngod8221 2 года назад +3

      @@Te-cm8kr well if reality is non exist then what all this progress mean to us? is it really useless we progress this much and wasted our time to know? for me sophist question (in my view it may be bias) do our progress is that unimportant?

    • @Te-cm8kr
      @Te-cm8kr 2 года назад

      @@unknowngod8221 my point was that reason and knowledge dose not equal the truth. To find out the truth we will need to test it in the real world and that is mostly what the sophists did. While the philosophers thought the phosists did.

  • @JamieZero7
    @JamieZero7 2 месяца назад

    Sophists sound like the communists. With their dialectics.

  • @itarry4
    @itarry4 3 года назад +1

    Alcibiades doesn't have a k in it...

  • @Maxi25554
    @Maxi25554 4 года назад +3

    "Violence is risky and unreliable" yeah like argument isnt

  • @kanekyrocryptic7853
    @kanekyrocryptic7853 3 года назад +1

    Odd music choice

  • @isaacshultz8128
    @isaacshultz8128 4 года назад

    Can you make a video about How to play hoi3

  • @AntonAdelson
    @AntonAdelson 3 года назад +7

    Socrates is the original Jesus!