@@habibasharawy1643 I'm sure there's one out there somewhere :) I've seen similar observations in books by authors like Tamora Pierce and Mercedes Lackey. they're both outside of the Romance genre, though -- Tamora Pierce is YA fantasy, and Mercedes Lackey is regular fantasy. Also, bit of a warning on the latter: her books espouse some *cough* outdated views on mental health, and protagonists use frankly abusive tactics sometimes, which are then shown as *working.*
@@habibasharawy1643I just wanna say that Mercedes Lacky does have romance elements. It was the first book series my mom gave me when I started getting into BL novels. Highly recommend the Last Harold Mage books.
@@elandco1047I wouldn't look up too many spoilers. Just keep reading. You'll eventually surface. Maybe just a little more hot and bothered than when you went in.
I don't normally read Gothic romance so is the "pretend to be your father's ghost to kidnap you" a common trope or was that a specific Phantom of the Opera reference
They don't always do that specifically but always they do something horrible and usually criminal to force a relationship and also gain power or wealth at the same time, but unlike some other romance genres that's treated as Horror in Gothic romance
In a lot of Gothic romance, the love interest isn't even the horrible one - often BOTH love interests are attacked by a curse or evil family member or just the general atmosphere of the house . . . In cases where you DO get a questionable Gothic love interest, he is probably the MC's employer or neighbour with a dark secret, not a ghost.
@@riyatyagi8358The Bronte sisters and Daphne du Maurier are the classics. Jane Austen's Gothic spoof Northanger Abbey has a long list of older and less well-known 'horrid' tales but I haven't gotten to them yet so don't know how good they are. I started 'The Mysteries of Udolpho' but got bored as there's several chapters of happy serenity before the Gothic hits, and I did not have time! It might have been worth it if I'd stuck it out. Rebecca (by du Maurier) is definitely my favourite. And 20th rather than 19th century language for those who are not into that. My knowledge of contemporary Gothic lit is limited to short stories. Lots of people claim Dracula is Gothic, but I think it's more supernatural horror. His castle IS Gothic though.
In gothic romance they never actually turn out to be better than she thought, she just realizes that her choices are the brooding poetry asshole or any one of the boring assholes
@@9cloudrachel207Imagine that, a 60 second video making an aside joke about a series didn't give all of the context for the full series. Truly shocking
To me, it sounded like the witch king. So this girl in a fae kingdom is born a witch and it's found that her perfect ideal match is the fae prince only in the kingdom the witches are seen as less than even though their parents can be fae and whether or not a child will be a witch or fae is a toss up until the child is born. The witch, who is now known as Wyatt, is trans. Wyatt ran away and lived with mortals for a time, and Caleb, the prince, came and fetched him back to get married. Long story short, they end up falling in love and getting married. The book is amazing and touches on a lot of issues
@@williamsmith6213 *spoilers for acotar* In the acotar series the fae lord saves the main character and her family from poverty but he turns out to be pretty awful and the supposed antagonist (also a fae lord) who murders a bunch of innocent people and roofies her to forget some pretty horrible nights actually turns out to be the good guy. The really sexy, romantic, kinky good guy. So she was definitely referring to acotar lol.
ACOTAR? I'm wondering if this is one where once you say it I'm like "well, Obviously I don't know why I didn't think of it at first", or if it's one I'm missing out on
@@charliepotter401 I have heard of that one before! I've even checked it out of the library before, but I haven't read it. I don't even remember this synopsis 🤣🤣 Thank you!!!!!!
No one: Me: Hyperventilating when I realise Fantasy Romance is talking about ACOTAR and Gothic Romance is talking about Phantom of The Opera! My two most favourite things ever!
Not the original Leroux novel, which was a horror, but the many more recent adaptations are either tragic romances or full on romances, of the gothic subgenre. I haven't read the Susan Kay novel (i ordered it online last night actually) but I think that one might lean more romantic
@gwendolynrobinson3900 The original novel is not a horror novel, it's a mix between an mystery novel and a gothic romance. People always assume it was originally a horror novel because of the more-accurate-to-the-book 1925 silent movie that made the Phantom into one of Universal Monsters, because Erik's face and attitude are even worse in the novel.
The Leroux book is more mystery/detective than romantic. POTO is public domain so there's many books that go towards the gothic romance! Susan Kay's focuses more on Erik/The Phantom backstory with romance at the end. My old POTO forum days though, many agreed Susan Kay wrote a good book until the ending where it got super weird OOC super quick. 😂 Kinda like fanfiction. There's also a VARIETY of adaptions. My favorite is the Charles Dance TV movie. The Christine is probably the most hated of all time, but besides that, it was a unique adaption of the book and Charles Dance was very charming in it.
@@gwendolynrobinson3900 The Susan Kay book is unreal! I loved that one back in HS -- she really endeavors to give both Erik and the Daroga ("The Persian") proper individual backstories, to say nothing of giving Erik a legit source of self-medication. Definitely one of the best modern retellings I've seen since the ALW stage show. 😁
Fun fact: the last we know of Christine and Raoul in PotO is that they took the train from Kiruna to Viktoriahavn (now Narvik) and presumably travelled further north along the coast from there.
I may not be extremely well versed in Gothic Romance but I know that plot point well enough to know that this is a direct shot fired at Phantom of the Opera 😂😂😂
Welp, right as i thought i could just sit back and chuckle at this series because im not really into romance novels, you've now pulled in the one single romance genre i do actively read. Dammit, no escape from getting called out now 😅😆
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Im just happy SOMEONE was like .... "Thats actually horrible do not be with this man."
this is why paranormal is everyone's favorite
@@feralnerd5I wish there was a main character who was like her
@@habibasharawy1643 I'm sure there's one out there somewhere :) I've seen similar observations in books by authors like Tamora Pierce and Mercedes Lackey. they're both outside of the Romance genre, though -- Tamora Pierce is YA fantasy, and Mercedes Lackey is regular fantasy. Also, bit of a warning on the latter: her books espouse some *cough* outdated views on mental health, and protagonists use frankly abusive tactics sometimes, which are then shown as *working.*
@@feralnerd5 thank you so so much ❤️❤️❤️
@@habibasharawy1643I just wanna say that Mercedes Lacky does have romance elements. It was the first book series my mom gave me when I started getting into BL novels. Highly recommend the Last Harold Mage books.
the southern accent for paranormal romance slays me
I am convinced she is just femme!dean winchester
I dont read romance please explain how paranormal romance connected to southerners
@@HauntedMushroom96 I only read fanfic personally, my mind went to Supernatural with the shirt and alcohol as well.
I love the “WHY are you like this?”
@@HauntedMushroom96 she probably just needed another unique accent to seperate the genres out and landed on a southern one.. But I love it lol
Fantasy Romance gives off ACOTAR vibes 😂
I was about to comment this😂
….. i an at chapter 30 of book 2 …. did i just get spoiled ???????
@@elandco1047I wouldn't look up too many spoilers. Just keep reading. You'll eventually surface. Maybe just a little more hot and bothered than when you went in.
So true!!!!
Was I just spoiled? I’ve only read book one. I have had a feeling Rhys is going to steal the show.
The way `fantasy romance n `gothic romance` became besties😂😂😂
Edit:- thx 4 so many likes
YES.
I immediately assumed they're actually family. Fantasy's the one to introduce her after all
@@mangelsimonpaniello2256nope. It was historical
My besties became besties yes!
@@gachagirlpink3784 not anymore
The fae lord one legit made me go "wait I know that one!"
What one was it?
Court of something or other. I'm sorry, I found it in the library back in highschool and can't really remember the name
@@cinderfox5217it’s the “a curse of thorns and roses” series by Sarah J Maas
@@dungeonroomba a court of thorns and roses actually, or ACOTAR for short
@@nyxakuma7933 dang it! So close and yet so far. I’ve never actually read it though, would you recommend it
The Phantom of the Opera to ACOTAR whiplash is insane
Fr
I know how messed up ACOTAR is, but I absolutely LOVE it. My favourite character is Cassian.
I was confused for a minute... i was like "wait WHEN did rhys roofie her???"
@@Rivellya_AVEN He roofied her w/ the fae wine UTM
@@Rivellya_AVEN same. I need to reread them.
I don't normally read Gothic romance so is the "pretend to be your father's ghost to kidnap you" a common trope or was that a specific Phantom of the Opera reference
I’ve only read like 5 but Phantom is the only one that even comes close to that description 😂
They don't always do that specifically but always they do something horrible and usually criminal to force a relationship and also gain power or wealth at the same time, but unlike some other romance genres that's treated as Horror in Gothic romance
In a lot of Gothic romance, the love interest isn't even the horrible one - often BOTH love interests are attacked by a curse or evil family member or just the general atmosphere of the house . . . In cases where you DO get a questionable Gothic love interest, he is probably the MC's employer or neighbour with a dark secret, not a ghost.
Now I want to try gothic romance, can you suggest any books?
@@riyatyagi8358The Bronte sisters and Daphne du Maurier are the classics. Jane Austen's Gothic spoof Northanger Abbey has a long list of older and less well-known 'horrid' tales but I haven't gotten to them yet so don't know how good they are. I started 'The Mysteries of Udolpho' but got bored as there's several chapters of happy serenity before the Gothic hits, and I did not have time! It might have been worth it if I'd stuck it out.
Rebecca (by du Maurier) is definitely my favourite. And 20th rather than 19th century language for those who are not into that. My knowledge of contemporary Gothic lit is limited to short stories.
Lots of people claim Dracula is Gothic, but I think it's more supernatural horror. His castle IS Gothic though.
In gothic romance they never actually turn out to be better than she thought, she just realizes that her choices are the brooding poetry asshole or any one of the boring assholes
I mean, if the choice is between being bored or potentially being attic-wifed... 😂
😂😂😂😂😂
@@ErieMaxwell ...I'm worried because I'm not sure which one you're routing for here 😭🤣
@@ErieMaxwellRight? I'll take boring over Rochester any day.
@@Wednesdaywoe1975 *uncomfortable recollections of being team edward*
*specifically because he was like Rochester*
Fantasy Romance just described the entirety of A Court of Mist and Fury lmao
That's exactly what I was thinking! Lmao
@@9cloudrachel207Imagine that, a 60 second video making an aside joke about a series didn't give all of the context for the full series. Truly shocking
To me, it sounded like the witch king. So this girl in a fae kingdom is born a witch and it's found that her perfect ideal match is the fae prince only in the kingdom the witches are seen as less than even though their parents can be fae and whether or not a child will be a witch or fae is a toss up until the child is born. The witch, who is now known as Wyatt, is trans. Wyatt ran away and lived with mortals for a time, and Caleb, the prince, came and fetched him back to get married. Long story short, they end up falling in love and getting married. The book is amazing and touches on a lot of issues
@@williamsmith6213 *spoilers for acotar*
In the acotar series the fae lord saves the main character and her family from poverty but he turns out to be pretty awful and the supposed antagonist (also a fae lord) who murders a bunch of innocent people and roofies her to forget some pretty horrible nights actually turns out to be the good guy. The really sexy, romantic, kinky good guy. So she was definitely referring to acotar lol.
@deathbloom27 OH a character in the book I listened to used mind control to trick the main character into thinking he was attracted to him
The way Fantasy was literally describing Court of Thorns and Roses XDDD
You’re going to ask the wife of a fae lord why she is the way she is?? 😂
That skull drop transition was amazing by the way!
‘Fantasy romance’ be explaining the entire ACOTAR series
ACOTAR?
I'm wondering if this is one where once you say it I'm like "well, Obviously I don't know why I didn't think of it at first", or if it's one I'm missing out on
@GaiaIbis a court of thorns and roses. Haven't actually read it yet but I've heard good things!
@@charliepotter401 I have heard of that one before! I've even checked it out of the library before, but I haven't read it. I don't even remember this synopsis 🤣🤣
Thank you!!!!!!
Why did that sound like Rhysand from acotar💀
It was
Because it absolutely is!
It was lol
I love that she's basically Christine from Phantom of the opera
Girl just described the fantasy version of the romance options in 'my fair lady'.
Explaining the plot of ACOTAR series like that makes me question things
Giving me some real flashbacks to “The folk of the air” rn
Well... that's ACOTAR.
I'm living for our southern no nonsense paranormal romance.😂❤
This is so much funnier after reading the source material 😂
"Why are you like this?"
My friends ask me that all the time.
Edit: 102 likes?? This is the most likes I've ever gotten lol
No one:
Me: Hyperventilating when I realise Fantasy Romance is talking about ACOTAR and Gothic Romance is talking about Phantom of The Opera!
My two most favourite things ever!
When paranormal romance is the one who makes sense. 😂😂
Oh Phantom, why does it still capture my heart so dearly
That sounded like phantom of the opera. Is that...a gothic romance?
Not the original Leroux novel, which was a horror, but the many more recent adaptations are either tragic romances or full on romances, of the gothic subgenre. I haven't read the Susan Kay novel (i ordered it online last night actually) but I think that one might lean more romantic
@gwendolynrobinson3900 The original novel is not a horror novel, it's a mix between an mystery novel and a gothic romance.
People always assume it was originally a horror novel because of the more-accurate-to-the-book 1925 silent movie that made the Phantom into one of Universal Monsters, because Erik's face and attitude are even worse in the novel.
The Leroux book is more mystery/detective than romantic. POTO is public domain so there's many books that go towards the gothic romance! Susan Kay's focuses more on Erik/The Phantom backstory with romance at the end. My old POTO forum days though, many agreed Susan Kay wrote a good book until the ending where it got super weird OOC super quick. 😂 Kinda like fanfiction. There's also a VARIETY of adaptions. My favorite is the Charles Dance TV movie. The Christine is probably the most hated of all time, but besides that, it was a unique adaption of the book and Charles Dance was very charming in it.
@@gwendolynrobinson3900 The Susan Kay book is unreal! I loved that one back in HS -- she really endeavors to give both Erik and the Daroga ("The Persian") proper individual backstories, to say nothing of giving Erik a legit source of self-medication. Definitely one of the best modern retellings I've seen since the ALW stage show. 😁
Lol the fae lord who saved my life and saved my family from poverty, sounds like acotar
WHEN I SAY I BUST OUT LAUGHING WHEN SHE DISAPPEARED 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣I MEAN IT🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Please let there be a Hallmark Christmas version too
I love that slight SJM slam 😂
Fun fact: the last we know of Christine and Raoul in PotO is that they took the train from Kiruna to Viktoriahavn (now Narvik) and presumably travelled further north along the coast from there.
Fantasy romance just talked about the love story in acotar!!! I love it!
I thought it was the Phantom of the Opera 😂😂😂
I love the reference to Sarah J. Maas books lol
The way fantasy romance referenced ACOTAR🥲
Love that Fantasy Romance was talking about ACOTAR one of my all time favorites!!❤️(unless that’s isn’t it but I’m like 99.99999% sure)
Oh my god I would love to see more of gothic romance.
Fantasy romance is totally talking about ACOTAR
That's basically the plot of Phantom of the Opera. Christine really got a makeover
He really did drug her a bunch and we just look the other way! 😂😂😂😂
I was looking on disapprovingly the WHOLE TIME 😉😆
I have lost count of how many times these sketches have made me literally laugh out loud! 😂
That description also fits for "The Phantom of the Opera" 😂😂😂
When is fantasy gonna realize that 'the worse he seems the better he is' is PART OF THE FANTASY 😂😂😂
Fantasy’s face at the end says
“Because it’s fun and because I can.”
God I wish I could dramatically fade out of existence like that when conversations were finished😭
Can we bring back Gothic Romance???? She's great ❤❤❤
This is so underated! Amazing 😂
That first one is fucking phantom of the Opera 😭😭😭
The acotar dig was inspiring thank you
Paranormal romance is my favorite, I adore her so much.
Me too! Which is funny; because I generally hate vampire romances (except for Spike . . . ☺)
She’s the voice of reason, but will have your back in a fight. Everyone needs a friend like her!
“So you’re telling me that this dude pretended to be the ghost of your dead father so he could kidnap you”
Phantom of the Opera reference? 👀👀👀
I may not be extremely well versed in Gothic Romance but I know that plot point well enough to know that this is a direct shot fired at Phantom of the Opera 😂😂😂
That fade out was awsome
“Ah think yur judgement’s faine” 😂
Nice "Phantom of the Opera" reference. That's my favorite book.
"pretended to be the ghost of your dead father so he could kidnap you"
DO I SMELL THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA-
As someone who recently read all of ACOTAR I am here for Fantasy's perspective 😂
"He pretended to be a ghost of your dead father so he can kidnap you" - IS IT THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA?🤣🤣🤣
I can't believe PR is giving FA a hard time on this one😂
The fact that Paranormal Romance is the most level-headed and straight shooting of this group validates me in ways I didn't even know I needed!
When you recognize a plot line from a book you've read immediately
*"OH, oh they know their stuff"*
Ok - I’m now OFFICIALLY claiming Paranormal Romance as a mood for myself :D
Gothic Romance gave me Phantom of the Opera Vibes
We need more of Gothic Romance
ACOTAR REFERENCES YESSS
I screamed when I realized you were talking about Rhys 😭
Omg video transition was so smooth… It’s amazing
Sookie's right and she should say it
This made me laugh, subscribe and then I watched it again for another laugh
Totally would love to see more Gothic Romance
As soon as I heard the ‘this guy tricked you by thinking he was the ghost of your father’ I knew the exact novel…in sleep he sang to me…
That transition with the skull is awesome.
The diff accents depict the genres so accurately 😮😊❤❤
THE ACOTAR REFERENCE WAS PERFECT 😭😭
That transition tho! That was awesome!
I love your videos so much omg
OH GOD NOT THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA REFERENCE 😭😭😭
"Why are you like this?"
🎉TRAUMA🎉
The acotar reference 😂
I love the way fantasy romance speak!
That skull drop effect was sick!
I love how the fantasy was a reference from acotar
Not ACOTAR getting called out😂 I love this sm
I LOVE gotchic romance, her vibes are impeccable
There is a reason its called "fantasy" romance. (Irs because "delusional" would upset the target demographic.)
PR's "Why are you like this" was too personal xD
YES! More of Gothic Romance, please?
👉🏻👈🏻🥺
THE ACOTAR REFERENCE I’M DYING
I know this is an old video, but the "why are you like this?"
"cute shrugs"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I write Tragedy/Gothic novels and your characterization of Gothic Romance is ON POINT! I love it dearly
PS. to clarify I'm in the process of writing a Tragedy/Gothic Romance story. The way I worded that was misleading. Forgive me, please.
“Why’re you like this?”!!!😂😂
"Why are you like this?" Me to myself in the mirror in the morning when I said it would be my bed I woke up in. 😅
Fantasy just wants drama, and drama she will get! 😂
I personally love Gothic stuff! So that's down my alley
Fantasy romance is ACOTAR
Welp, right as i thought i could just sit back and chuckle at this series because im not really into romance novels,
you've now pulled in the one single romance genre i do actively read.
Dammit, no escape from getting called out now 😅😆
Next we NEED to see sapphic romance!!! 🥰😍💖💕💞
PR is fast becoming my favorite character XD
Gothic romance should remain in the meetings!!! I love it!
The fact that fantasy romance just describes ACOTAR. 😂
Fantasy is such a mood
Fantasy Romance is now my spirit animal 😂😂
I'm so glad I'm not the only one that randomly pets plastic objects. They deserve love too, and nobody else gets it!
😂😂😂😂 no wonder I enjoy your books so much!❤