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I just switched over from Forekastor EXO Dual Compound (F&R) to DHR II EXO+ MaxxGripp (F), Dissector DD MaxxGripp (R) and so far they are performing good, at least better than the Forekasters. I had two incidents where the front slipped out on me with the Forekasters resulting in a gnarly crash where I went chest first onto a dead log breaking the whole thing. I agree with you on where you mentioned the MaxxGripp is better for cold/Winter scenarios or for competitions and the MaxxTerras for hotter climates. I do live in Northern California where it's hot right now and I plan on switching over the MaxxGripps for MaxxTerras to test the difference. I also take my husky out on my bike so she can pull me, so durability is key for me. I have noticed the rolling resistance with the MaxxGripps compared to the Dual Compound Forekasters but as someone who comes from a D1 soccer background, the rolling resistance isn't a deal breaker for me on what compound I choose but I would like a longer lasting compound as I do ride my bike ALOT.
nice, I am using a dhf 2.5 maxtera front and a 2.4ish forecaster in the rear. I had a hans damf 2.6 in the front and a Conti mountain king in the rear. I like the grip and rolling resistance on the Maxxis setup. I want to bring my maltipoo dog for my bike rides but shes only 10lbs.
i tried a butcher grid ,not The T compounds, and found them much squirmier than a maxterra dhf and Schwalbe hans damf speed grip. i think you are right, i find that softer compounds squirm more on hard surfaces and harder compounds or at least tread patterns with more support have those tires beat when leaned over.
Am deciding on a new rear for Big Bear this weekend. Burly, au natural primitive trail like 10-Ply that is different from the rest of Big Bear - thinking MaxxTerra for the rocks reminded me of Karpiel-Vietnam at Northstar. I didn’t know anything about the difference until this video. I was with you until at the end you said MaxxGrip front and rear. I thought you were going to say Grip front, Terra rear. Great chat. Thanks.
After my first year in PNW, I agree with everything you've said. Found myself switching to gripp/gripp F/R only in the wet winter. Otherwise run gripp/terra rest of the year. Kinda bummed maxxis doesn't make a 27.5 DHR ii DH terra for my DH bike - i'd like to be running DD gripp / DH terra f/r. the DH gripp rear would just wear out too quickly riding all the rock and dust during park season.
I’ve run Grip in the front and terra in rear for a while in the PNW, put soft enduro contis on one of my bikes, Soft might be the Goldilocks between Terra and Grip, but made the mistake of using a Xynotal rear too early in the season. Now got a new bike so haven’t ridden Conti as much, but Soft may be the middle ground trail riders are looking for. Gonna switch the rear to a Kryptotal for next season. Xynotal is terrible for climbing in particular on roots etc.
in NZ the best tyres are like argotal or shorty in SS or MG. Maxxis tyres w exo+/dd have soft sidewalls and suit lower speed riding, DH casing only or not at all - push into a turn with 30+ psi and its all over the place. Conti seem to be the best i've run, stiff side walls, Can run low pressure without issue. Best advice i ever got was 'take those stupid things out of your tyres' Meaning Inserts.... I've had waaaaay less rim damage and better feeling rides after removing them, guilty of falling for the 'trendy fad'
My experience has been the opposite, my first set of rims got destroyed from all the rock gardens I'd fly into, the second set have remained trouble free since having inserts
I have one bike and one set of wheels, and I'm just not going to have a set of tires for different conditions. I pick a combo that will have best grip because even when the sun is out there is always muddy and wet sections every single time where I ride. Personally I do not notice much of a difference in rolling resistance if we compare same thread pattern and casing only with different compounds. I've tried maxx terra front/rear, maxx grip front maxx terra rear and now maxx grip front and rear. As they have different hardness in terms of side knobs or center and so on, I believe thread pattern is more important in terms of rolling resistance so that you'll notice a bigger dip from a DHR II to an assegai. Personally I'm a normal trail rider who don't ride super hard, so I actually want maxx grip in the rear mostly for clearing techy *_uphill_* sections and maxx grip in the front for when I'm going down. The industry solely focus on downhill when it comes to tires, and well what about the rest. I'm a trail rider, not a downhill racer.
@@DandyHippo Nobby Nic and conti trail king is more an xc tire than trail tire in my eyes. 10 years ago it was considered trail tires, but that was then... They are sketchy as hell.
Maxxis states MaxxTerra for dry dry/hardpack and MaxxGrip for the wet. Now we need to go back to the casing testing. Double Down with insert vs DH casing. I myself choose DH over DD with insert but others don't.
Just trying a max grip DHF on the front of my hard tail (on-one, hello dave) EXO. And have a max terra assegai on the front of my full sus (high tower LT). I am liking both for riding in Hong Kong so far. But for rear tyres it’s got to be a magic mary. Those things hook up when you need to stop and have good predictable drift/slide. I have been running Mary’s front and rear for a few year, but they are getting too pricey.
I curious to hear your thoughts on other brands of tires. Have you tried the specialized cannibal or the new continental tires? my local bike shop basically only recommends maxxis tires. I like maxxis tires because of how reliable there are but I would love to try other brands, however money doesn't grow on trees so cant really try them all.
@@DandyHippo it is sort of inconsistent because I have had DhR in Exo+ casing MaxxTerra on my other bike which lasted well over 500 miles. And at the end, this tire looked better than the tire with 300 miles.
@@arstan911 hmm interesting. Only reasons beside inconsistent compound I can come up with is what trails you ride, if you ride harder or have gained weight
@@DandyHippo same trails, pressure are 2-3psi off depending on casing, some weather conditions (I keep rotating between two bikes all the time), and I lost 30 pounds in fact. And I installed that 300 mile tire when I was close to my lowest weight.
Riding granite slabs and hiking trails here in New Hampshire, maxxgrip front and rear, dhr2 dd rear w cushcore 28 psi and Assegai exo+ front 26 psi. Otherwise I blow up wheels. Maxxgrip forever
I love on my Dh Norco range Exo+ Assegai maxxgrip at front and Continental Kryptotal re soft Dh casing at the rear….. Conti hold grip better than Dhr2 and last already 4 days in Finale and about 20 bikepark days! Try that with Dhr2 😂
Max terra in front only and regular compaund in the back for less rolling resistant tire and last longer if you do any serius climbing max terra in the back is so heavy, i found that regular maxxis compaund tires grip well if is not wet and roll much faster, max grip is a downhill tire so slow and heavy even in the front not for my type of rides
I just switched over from Forekastor EXO Dual Compound (F&R) to DHR II EXO+ MaxxGripp (F), Dissector DD MaxxGripp (R) and so far they are performing good, at least better than the Forekasters. I had two incidents where the front slipped out on me with the Forekasters resulting in a gnarly crash where I went chest first onto a dead log breaking the whole thing. I agree with you on where you mentioned the MaxxGripp is better for cold/Winter scenarios or for competitions and the MaxxTerras for hotter climates. I do live in Northern California where it's hot right now and I plan on switching over the MaxxGripps for MaxxTerras to test the difference. I also take my husky out on my bike so she can pull me, so durability is key for me. I have noticed the rolling resistance with the MaxxGripps compared to the Dual Compound Forekasters but as someone who comes from a D1 soccer background, the rolling resistance isn't a deal breaker for me on what compound I choose but I would like a longer lasting compound as I do ride my bike ALOT.
nice, I am using a dhf 2.5 maxtera front and a 2.4ish forecaster in the rear. I had a hans damf 2.6 in the front and a Conti mountain king in the rear. I like the grip and rolling resistance on the Maxxis setup. I want to bring my maltipoo dog for my bike rides but shes only 10lbs.
when its actually cold all 3C is out of question. The compound stiffens and loses function, and can end up in nobs chunking off
i tried a butcher grid ,not The T compounds, and found them much squirmier than a maxterra dhf and Schwalbe hans damf speed grip. i think you are right, i find that softer compounds squirm more on hard surfaces and harder compounds or at least tread patterns with more support have those tires beat when leaned over.
Am deciding on a new rear for Big Bear this weekend. Burly, au natural primitive trail like 10-Ply that is different from the rest of Big Bear - thinking MaxxTerra for the rocks reminded me of Karpiel-Vietnam at Northstar. I didn’t know anything about the difference until this video. I was with you until at the end you said MaxxGrip front and rear. I thought you were going to say Grip front, Terra rear. Great chat. Thanks.
It depends. For big bear I would do grip front terra rear.
After my first year in PNW, I agree with everything you've said. Found myself switching to gripp/gripp F/R only in the wet winter. Otherwise run gripp/terra rest of the year.
Kinda bummed maxxis doesn't make a 27.5 DHR ii DH terra for my DH bike - i'd like to be running DD gripp / DH terra f/r. the DH gripp rear would just wear out too quickly riding all the rock and dust during park season.
Very helpful info. Thanks.
Thanks
I’ve run Grip in the front and terra in rear for a while in the PNW, put soft enduro contis on one of my bikes, Soft might be the Goldilocks between Terra and Grip, but made the mistake of using a Xynotal rear too early in the season. Now got a new bike so haven’t ridden Conti as much, but Soft may be the middle ground trail riders are looking for. Gonna switch the rear to a Kryptotal for next season. Xynotal is terrible for climbing in particular on roots etc.
you should do one on continental vs maxxis comparisons
Running some contis right now and will be making a video soon
F - Assegai Maxxgrip DH casing
R - Minion DHR 2 Maxxterra DD
Why maxxgrip on the front and maxxterra on the rear?
@@diggaderbeflashing4309 because you need more grip on the front
most of my MTB clips are casing videos too :D
in NZ the best tyres are like argotal or shorty in SS or MG.
Maxxis tyres w exo+/dd have soft sidewalls and suit lower speed riding, DH casing only or not at all - push into a turn with 30+ psi and its all over the place.
Conti seem to be the best i've run, stiff side walls, Can run low pressure without issue.
Best advice i ever got was 'take those stupid things out of your tyres' Meaning Inserts.... I've had waaaaay less rim damage and better feeling rides after removing them, guilty of falling for the 'trendy fad'
My experience has been the opposite, my first set of rims got destroyed from all the rock gardens I'd fly into, the second set have remained trouble free since having inserts
I have one bike and one set of wheels, and I'm just not going to have a set of tires for different conditions. I pick a combo that will have best grip because even when the sun is out there is always muddy and wet sections every single time where I ride.
Personally I do not notice much of a difference in rolling resistance if we compare same thread pattern and casing only with different compounds. I've tried maxx terra front/rear, maxx grip front maxx terra rear and now maxx grip front and rear. As they have different hardness in terms of side knobs or center and so on, I believe thread pattern is more important in terms of rolling resistance so that you'll notice a bigger dip from a DHR II to an assegai.
Personally I'm a normal trail rider who don't ride super hard, so I actually want maxx grip in the rear mostly for clearing techy *_uphill_* sections and maxx grip in the front for when I'm going down. The industry solely focus on downhill when it comes to tires, and well what about the rest. I'm a trail rider, not a downhill racer.
there are plenty trail orientred tires if you fancy. Schwalbe nobby nic or can manage with any xc tyre too
@@DandyHippo Nobby Nic and conti trail king is more an xc tire than trail tire in my eyes. 10 years ago it was considered trail tires, but that was then... They are sketchy as hell.
Maxxis states MaxxTerra for dry dry/hardpack and MaxxGrip for the wet. Now we need to go back to the casing testing. Double Down with insert vs DH casing. I myself choose DH over DD with insert but others don't.
maxxgrip is awesome in the dry too. So much grip
Just trying a max grip DHF on the front of my hard tail (on-one, hello dave) EXO. And have a max terra assegai on the front of my full sus (high tower LT). I am liking both for riding in Hong Kong so far. But for rear tyres it’s got to be a magic mary. Those things hook up when you need to stop and have good predictable drift/slide. I have been running Mary’s front and rear for a few year, but they are getting too pricey.
I curious to hear your thoughts on other brands of tires. Have you tried the specialized cannibal or the new continental tires? my local bike shop basically only recommends maxxis tires. I like maxxis tires because of how reliable there are but I would love to try other brands, however money doesn't grow on trees so cant really try them all.
Conti review coming soon. Would like to try the specialized tires next
DHR II DD MaxxTerra on one of my bikes worn out in 4 months ( 300 miles) in dry/loose dry conditions . Side knobs are already peeling off...😢
gotta pay for the performance. Cant have a longest lasting and best performing rubber in the same tyre
@@DandyHippo it is sort of inconsistent because I have had DhR in Exo+ casing MaxxTerra on my other bike which lasted well over 500 miles. And at the end, this tire looked better than the tire with 300 miles.
@@arstan911 hmm interesting. Only reasons beside inconsistent compound I can come up with is what trails you ride, if you ride harder or have gained weight
@@DandyHippo same trails, pressure are 2-3psi off depending on casing, some weather conditions (I keep rotating between two bikes all the time), and I lost 30 pounds in fact. And I installed that 300 mile tire when I was close to my lowest weight.
Can you do this with continental
Running a set right now. Stay tuned.
Riding granite slabs and hiking trails here in New Hampshire, maxxgrip front and rear, dhr2 dd rear w cushcore 28 psi and Assegai exo+ front 26 psi. Otherwise I blow up wheels. Maxxgrip forever
I love on my Dh Norco range Exo+ Assegai maxxgrip at front and Continental Kryptotal re soft Dh casing at the rear….. Conti hold grip better than Dhr2 and last already 4 days in Finale and about 20 bikepark days! Try that with Dhr2 😂
Max terra in front only and regular compaund in the back for less rolling resistant tire and last longer if you do any serius climbing max terra in the back is so heavy, i found that regular maxxis compaund tires grip well if is not wet and roll much faster, max grip is a downhill tire so slow and heavy even in the front not for my type of rides
I found maxx terra dissector is softer than maxx grip DHR2. Dissector side knobs just fold over so easier
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What an achievement
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But they all wobble lol