My only concern with the OLED would be burn-in especially with all the static components of Windows like desktop icons, taskbar, menus, etc. One major point you missed is the difference in price.
Burn in is an overrated issue i been using my oled tv as a monitor for over a year at least 10 hours a day my screen brightness is pretty much set to max and no burn in at all.
u can easily adjust all that windows components. In combination with dark mode, pixel shifting and moderate display usage there will never be a burn in problem.
Yeah exactly. I used it very very occasionally on my Surface Pro and HP Chromebook x2 when connected as laptops. I wouldn't pay extra for it on a laptop.
I'm still worried for that screen burn-in. LCD is still a great choice for laptops. especially when you're making documents where the screen does not move that much.
Just wanted to point out that disabling Panel Self Refresh on an OLED will likely lead to screen burn in. Isn't it there to prevent that from happening?
I don't think the camera really does the OLED screen justice here. I have an 4K LG OLED C8 tv, and that thing puts all my other professional photo editing IPS panels to shame. Both the colors, contrast and the blacks are phenomenal. Looking forward to when the OLED panels for computers becomes mainstream.
I went with the FHD LCD panel because I really don't like glossy displays in naturally lit rooms and I like a very long battery life so I can forget about carrying a power brick and a laptop bag everywhere.
Burn in doesn't happen if u just hide the W10 task bar automatically. I have a galaxy book from Samsung Which I use as a laptop at my work and tablet at home. That means 8 hours a day 5 days a week. I use this thing since 2y+ and I got 0 burning. 0 Niet Nada None How I know ? Just put a single colour full screen image made on Photoshop or whatever. Ppl cries about pblm that doesn't exist. But one thing is sure. Once you tasted an oled laptop, you can never go back. It's simply impossible. For me it's oled laptop or no laptop.
@@dariobotkuljak9673 I am a graphic artist. Since 20+ years. I know ppl will say that oled tend to exagerate colors, but there is profile and calibration for this. Once calibrated, oled screens are way better than lcd's. Black is black, white is white, colors are accurate toot, oled are simply better in every possible way if you know what you are doing. I won countless number of contracts cause of my oled screens during presentation, the crucial moment. When you present an illustration on an outsanding oled screen like the galaxy book 12, or a simple accurate ipad lcd, the customer will be way more impressed with the galaxy book, i tested it, for an extended period of time then i sold back the ipad pro, well , it bent too, but thats another pblm. Everyone has its standart. For me its oled. Of course my 3* 4k 32inchs screens are not oled, so is my wacom. But each screen has its utility. If oled come to desktop monitors i will buy it, whatever the price, which will be likely extremly high. For me, phone, laptop, its oled or no-go.
@@jeanyvescoffy8315 Hey man seems like you know a lot about these, wondering if you could help please? On the XPS 15 OLED, are you able to adjust the colour temperature and saturation using the software? Other people are saying that you can't do it. Cheers
@@jeanyvescoffy8315 what about the static task bars of applications that you work in? Id assume that would cause burn in. do you avoid these taskbars somehow or does it simply just not get burn in?
The future display technology will be Microled search them up if you dont know what microled is The same as oled with even better color accuracy, faster response time, much much brighter even brighter than lcds, very hight PPI (microled displays ppi can go up to 10000 ppi, where lcd and oled only have 85-300ppi( ppi makes the screen sharper and if you have hight ppi you dont have to use anti-alaising while playing games which is a huuuge advantage. They have wider color space than oled and guess what? No burn in.
The main drawback of OLED on a laptop has to be burn in, I can definitely see that windows task bar deciding to burn it self into the bottom of the screen over a year of use ..
@@jackbanxian That is a nice idea, and I have used it before with an LCD laptop, but it just makes switching programs a lot slower (because of the slow animation). I guess OLED ain't for me
I mean it depends on what people like and what feels and looks nice with what they do. The second one is the oled cause i see the whites look more cream
It's because that you see both screens next to each other. But true plain white is not that white which you used to see on these days competing phones or tv's or other screens. Also blueish white harmful especially before sleep.
I've had the OLED for a week now and it's the best display I've ever seen on a laptop. Just orgasmic to watch 4k video on. Returned the Macbook pro 15 and selling the Macbook Air. No comparison. The power of the machine is just an added benefit ! Love this Dell. First I ever owned.
@@Zipzeolocke Do you look at a black picture all day at your laptop? Most tasks is mainly bright and white, and there the OLED is using way more energy compared to a LCD.
The battery savings on the oled are not as much compared to how people exaggerate it. Its still pushing 4 times the pixel amount and how much of the time using the laptop will there be black screen. I mean cmon
For me, my mind will never make up to buy an OLED version since I worry the screen will suffer from severe burn-in in a couple years. Imagine being in a work environment and using the same application 9-10 hours a day. In fact, IPS LCD panels have really improved in quality over the years, and OLED panels are better suited for Tablets and Phones where content consumption is generally more.
I am also considering to buy this one. Can you maybe tell me more about the battery life you experience on the things you do? Beceause that is something where my doubts are
@Anthony LaMarc Thanks for the info! Atm my (old) laptop can't even get 2 hours so that sucks. But I would love to go to school (around 4/6hours) and use my laptop without charging. (not heavy load, like using lightroom or word). I am someone who use lightroom alot and after effects for video editing. So I assume OLED is the way to go for me. How is the screen brightness outdoor btw?
looking to get this one for college film courses, where ill be doing video editing almost everyday, how has the temps been while you have been using yours? Have you run into any over heating or thermal throttling?
I first noticed the banding issue on my 9570 while watching Netflix. Had me scratching my head for a while thinking it was a compression issue. After some digging, im almost certain it is to do with the intel HD graphics drivers. If you have a video open with compression artifacts, pause it and open the Intel graphics control panel and go to display > colour settings. If I move one of the sliders (contrast, for example) 1 point, and then back to where it was, then hit apply, the banding seems to subside
I have the OLED and for most content and use it looks incredible, but I find the whites noticeably over warm. It's quite distracting and I'm concerned about it affecting my photo editing (I've not had a chance to do any serious editing yet though since buying the machine). This is after calibrating with DisplayCal and Color Munki Display. Any advice? Perhaps its due to the DCI P3 coverage you mentioned?
So happy with the non-reflective OLED screen. I jump around between co-working spaces and coffee shops and my touchscreen XPS 15 was like a mirror if I sat next to a window. It was almost impossible to see what was actually on my screen. Soooo frustrating. I now have the OLED screen and I'm so happy with the non-reflective screen. It looks amazing and noooooo reflections now.
Hi, Tom. Thank you for your great review. The question is how are your eyes dealing with OLED? No irritation? OLED looks great, but I noticed my eyes become more tired from my OLED smartphone screen rather than from LCD on my laptop.
You replied to my comment on your other video saying I should not get the oled. Glad I still bought the OLED because we don't have the 1TB version of the 4k touschscreen in the UK haha! Can't wait to receive my laptop shipment now that you think oled is actually the better choice 😊
Those artifacts at 2:35 on LCD panel aren't here because of the panel itself. I'm 100% sure it's because of Intel GPU video settings. You can turn off their "improvements" in Intel Graphics Control Center app and you have to do it once per display (settings are separate for internal display and external monitors and TVs). It was ruining videos on my XPS 15 9570.
I had a similar screen flickering issue on the Dell XPS 7590 4k Touch but it was my own doing. So it was the heatsink placement. I had re-pasted and everything was good except the number 3 screw hole was elevated a lot! I put this down to screws one and 2 causing the displacement and pushed on. When all was back together have mild at first, when loosened it was extreme and tightened better. Then I noticed (after a nights sleep when i could think properly) that the top of the heatsink, the VRAM and MOSFET cooling portion, (in the centre and off the top of the pipes) that part had caught on the silver lip of the laptop and was not sitting flush! Was both a horrific revelation and a relief. I disassembled once more, re-pasted, and correctly positioned the sink and all is well. So i'd check that and also the thermal pads under that part or the sink, mine needed to be slightly replaced.
I'd always choose an IPS LCD panel over an OLED panel for anything other than watching movies. The consensus seems to be that the color vibrancy of OLED panels comes at the expense of color accuracy. While color vibrancy is great for watching movies, it's not so great for content creation where you actually rely on accurate color reproduction. So it's interesting that you would choose an OLED panel for video/photo editing over an IPS panel when most others would advice precisely the opposite...
Hi Tom, I'm considering buying one of these two laptops at the moment and was interested in knowing almost a year on, have you experienced burn out on the OLED display?
I'm on the fence about getting either the oled or ips lcd, I will be using it for video editing and streaming so the oled would be nice but I have the same concern
Great video! I love the banding comparison. I would love a game of thrones the long night freeze frame comparison (jk, compression and bad lighting can't be solved with oled)
Random question for XPS users - for all those video editors out there that use an XPS & premiere pro... What Dell Premiercolor display do you use on your laptop when you're editing? Photo (Adobe RBG) or Internet (sRGB) ???
You got a point. But unless you are in the editing tasks, you are not gonna give too much atenttion to those details. Great review dude as usual, you never let us down!!!
I am amazed over that your last 5-6 years can find a lot of OLED TVs, but not any OLED-laptops or external computer displays. Thats relly mind blowing. Good to see some few laptops start to go over to "old" OLED techology, lol.
cant wait for your full review, so far have you noticed any over heating or thermal throttling? Im really considering buying this one for doing my video creation & editing for college film courses.
@@Thetechchap :( that could be a deal breaker for me. What if it had the i7-8750h on the older model? Any other recs for a relatively thin & light laptop that would be best for video creation & editing using adobe programs?
My concern is the difference when gaming. I know this is not a gaming laptop but I would use it for world or warcraft occasionally. The 1080p panel has a lot less graphics to push unless you play in 1080p and have a softer image due to scaling.
I ran into PWM flickering on my 1st 4k tv by vizio...it looked great but I was getting terrible eyestrain and headaches shortly after buying it and couldnt understand why....then after a lot of research, i heard of this PWM flickering and on the vizio it was caused by a setting called "Backlight control". once that was turned off, the issue with my eyes stopped like magic...
Hey Tom - great vid again... Just curious, which Dell docking station is good for this laptop (TB16 or TB19) to connect Dell 27 4K monitor? I read from reddit TB19 was not a good fit. Which one do u recommend it? Thanks.
I'm surprised you did not focus more on the burn in problems that OLED has as a PC has a lot of static pictures which can cause this. Even more than TV's and this is a problem I have experienced myself without any help from LG. My message to all is to avoid OLED unless you are prepared to replace your device frequently.
Though, the Alienware R3 has been out for a couple of years now and had no burn in issues whatsoever. Also, LG uses a different kind of technique for their panels compared to Samsung.
The only thing I use my touchscreen for on my XPS 9570 is to close out of windows. 😅 I personally think unless you have the XPS 9575 or a 2 in 1 laptop a touch screen is really useless for anything but shutting out windows. You cannot use the pen to write because the angle is too weird. But if you already have a 9560 or newer it is pointless to upgrade to a new XPS right now also. Great video Tom!
I'LL go with OLED I love the color contrast in OLED ..it gives us rich look to enjoy with the screen each and every moment u spent with your OLED LAPTOP
From the very start of the video I could instantly tell the one on the right was the OLED, all you have to do is look at anything black on the screen. You can instantly tell the color black is deep rich pixels being completely turned off as opposed to light pretending to be the color black with the LCD
I just got mine xps 15 this evening. I'm surprised by the heft of the laptop. I always have this picture of Dell's being plastic-y and low end... i'm pleasantly surprised. But i went with the 4k touch screen instead of the OLED. I like the extra ability to touch the screen instead of using the touch pad all the time. Also, i think it could be great for photo editing... does anyone know if the Dell Premium Active Pen is compatible with the 7590? I haven't been able to find it...
Tons of respect for that little fix for screen flickering. I was wondering if it makes sense to buy OLED for someone who spends quite some time coding. From what I see\hear ead seems like it's not an issue with that "panel auto update" fix
You should have covered the durability issues of each a little more. I hear that OLEDs can burn out in certain areas more easily than the LCD screens. You make good videos but not enough details. They feel like infomercials.
Banding on LCD is because of wide gamut and color transformation to sRGB from Adobe RGB, because Windows operates in sRGB. OLED doesn't cover Adobe RGB to 100% so that tool you are talking about was not supposed to be used with OLED. In order to fix banding switch to sRGB in the tool, and use sRGB color profile. And you will have perfect grays
I tent to believe the comparison test you did at 2:28 has some problems, I tested the same video on my junk laptop, entry level 4k tv and asus mg279q monitor, none of them shows banding.
I'm worried about the growing issue about screen bleeding on LED base screens the thing is you won't notice it immediately it takes 2-3 years before you start to notice specially loptops screens stay screen on more longer than smartphones like when you are editing, rendering and those kind of stuff i wish they can fix this LED problem because obviously LED based screens are so much better than LCDs
I had really bad banding on the OLED. You should look at your screen at 5-10% gray and see. Maybe I just lost the panel lottery? Had to send it back.also the heat it was putting out was awful.
I have the exact same issue. I've just spent way too much time trying to fix it and nothing works. I think I'll return it and go for a mac.. they are just so much more expensive.. Do you have any suggestions on what I could do fix the banding issues?
OLED is the panel which makes display look incredible at 1080p or even UHD. Its makes the experience a lot more better than IPS. *Meanwhile* Pro gamers: 1080p 144Hz or 240Hz with
Panel self refresh is for avoiding Burn-In Insuppose. Similar to Always On Display in AMOLED phones. Turning this off means risking the life of display. Correct me if I am wrong.
I loved this video! Could you do a HP Spectre x360 15.6 2020 version 4K UHD IPS 340 nit, 4K UHD IPS 400 nit, and 4K UHD UWVA AMOLED 400 nit comparison? It would be greatly appreciated!! I just got hired for my first full time job as a teacher and am needing a new laptop badly (mine is 12 years old)! I love the true blacks of amoled but I also need battery life. I would like to see the actual color differences and any possible issues between the three before i spend the money i have been trying so hard to save up so i can offer my students a better distant learning experience. Thank you for taking the time to read this!
What do you mean by closer. The oled is better in every way and release 1/3 the amount of blue light that the lcd releases. So it is better for your eyes. Only downside is burn in
@The Tech Chap: Watching this on my 4K OLED Spectre. This one seems to have an additional pen input touch layer which is visible under certain circumstances, like a grainy pixelated layer on top of the OLED panel itself- and unfortunately this layer reduces a bit of the OLEDs stunning resolution and clearness. As your reviewed Dell is a non touch (glossy) display you might have clearer whites with this one. For those having concerns about burn in: It won't happen at all. I've been using a 13 inch OLED Spectre for over 2 years, most of the time with static elements and never had any burn in issues. Even color shift (due to the shorter longevity of blue pixels) was not noticeable. There are some potential issues with the current 4K Samsung AMOLEDs though: PWM flicker at around 60 Hz, color bending with grey colors/backgrounds, color 'lag' when moving certain colored objects in front of a black background, contrast shift at highest brightness settings (that might be a driver issue).
exactly same mesh crap on the p1 gen2 of lenovo i just received.. this companies should not be trusted they are backstabbers selling 3k$ duds to everybody with a smile ... they fake not knowing about the defect while they sell thousand of these piece of crap voluntary broken oled panel these scammers including samsung merit a big fucking fat class act lawsuits of billions of dollars.. it's time people wake up.. these companies want to make their customer suffer hell.. like intel do...
@@sviatoslavpetrovych2066 if its touch good chances it will be the same.. its hard to know.. the lenono p1 gen2 clearly had this and take note that they THEY say its normal... if you buy one take time to scrutinize the screen for anything... oled should be perfect... if you find anything return it in the spot i would go for the dell since glossy and not touch
GO ASUS, I made this change 2013 after replacing 2 or 3 dell products particularly XPS model. I went ASUS and never regretted. If you afford ASUS ROG, they are the best powerful durable laptops.
Watching this on my Pantone calibrated Aero 15 OLED. Love this panel and it's insane contrast and color volume. Thanks to Samsung for an awesome screen.
even without editing the OLED has a far superior picture so i don't really see this as a clear choice unless you value battery life or don't want to pay the premium as the owner of a CRT and an OLED phone my IPS LCD with dogshit contrast fucks me up every time when theres any black/dark content
Angelo Merte I think, in this case (Dell XPS), the LCD’s quality is high enough for most people, and when factoring all other aspects (besides display quality) the LCD has the upper hand... But, it’s eventually a matter of needs and personal preferences...
The problem with the IPS ones is that you can only get them with 16GB of RAM and 512GB SSD. That's enough for the average person, but, if you're buying the 4k IPS display, which comes with an extremely powerful i9 processor, to do 4k video editing, you need more RAM and storage than that. I don't really see the point of the i9 with 16GB of RAM. If you only need 16GB of RAM, you don't need an i9.
Actually, I think the banding is due to compression. I have a 4K LCD monitor and an OLED TV. The same thing happens on my monitor with highly compressed content from RUclips, Netflix and Amazon Prime. However, whenever I download a raw 4k video file or connect my 4k blu ray player to my monitor, that banding-like effect is gone. I think OLEDs just handles compressed video better than LCDs.
Of course, it's possible that you can see banding in some videos due to compression. However, in this case, it's Intel's GPU drivers settings for videos. From my experience, it's best to just disable all of Intel's "features" because they make every video look more compressed as evidenced in this video. Also, don't believe this guy then it comes to Dell's laptops, this video sort of confirms that again. He missed so many XPS 15 issues that are present on various models for years (as evidenced by other trustworthy sites like notebookcheck, ultrabookreview and users on Reddit). I guess he gets free devices from Dell so he's being very cautious with issues.
Going to buy the 1080p version of XPS 15 7590. Is that a good option or should I go with OLED for an extra $300? I am a research student in the engineering domain; and, not a video editor but do photo editing occasionally. And Tom, expected your thoughts on the 1080p version in this video.
Since you said you won't be doing a lot of video or photo editing, the LCD is the better option as it is much cheaper. But if you can get the oled it's just phenomenal and once you get used to oled it's hard to go back to lcd
Thank you for this video. I’ve been torn between two screens. I Know these are not gaming laptops but I would like to do some moderate gaming on them. Two questions for you that might help me finally pull the trigger: 1. Which panel performs faster for gaming or would you say they’re the same with respect to ghosting or screen tearing. I use my SB2 currently for light gaming and the screen quality when moving quickly and panning side to side isn’t very good. 2. Does last years XPS perform the same as this years? I’m leaning toward the LCD and if this is the same as last years I might get one of the Dell Outlet models. Thank you!
I bought an Alienware m15 r3 and it’s got an oled display. Even though I’m returning it for thermal problems I don’t think I can go back to lcd. It’s just so much easier on your eyes
very useful. I was suprised to see you got 100% adobeRGB in teh OLED, as Dell does not advertise it as such. any chance you saved the DispayCal results? what does the deltaE is for both panels? (for me, that is an essential part of the color accuracy as important as the % coverage)
The display cal results are in the vid (I forget where I'm out at the moment but I do include the screenshots from it. You can pause the vid and zoom in to see Delta e I think
Hey I'm thinking about getting one of these for mainly music production usage on Ableton Live. I've heard there were some latency issues? Have you experienced anything of sorts? Great channel!
Ancients Nox I am aware of both options. IMO 15W CPU on the Spectre with OLED is just inexcusable compared to Razer Blade or XPS 15, or the IPS version of the Spectre
@@Evie0133Totally agree, if you play games and/or doing anything GPU intensive then the Razer OLED is worth it. For me, I just need a portable machine on the go for documents, Photoshop, media consumption and occasionally playing e sports games etc. MX 150 2GB is weak for sure, but that will be just fine fo my specific needs for that laptop. And I really want that OLED touch screen. Now that I have that, I can patiently wait for the Micro LED.
Yup, I'd go OLED. (with warranty incase of screen burn in issues) The brighter colors would be HEAVILY missed but the smooth amd rich Color Wins for me. 😎👌
IPS is 40ms black to white response rate and OLED is 2ms black to white. Do not get the IPS unless you like feeling sick scrolling or having mouse trails over dark backgrounds. I have a 12ms gaming monitor and 40ms is just horrible on a pc in 2021.
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My only concern with the OLED would be burn-in especially with all the static components of Windows like desktop icons, taskbar, menus, etc. One major point you missed is the difference in price.
Burn in is an overrated issue i been using my oled tv as a monitor for over a year at least 10 hours a day my screen brightness is pretty much set to max and no burn in at all.
u can easily adjust all that windows components.
In combination with dark mode, pixel shifting and moderate display usage there will never be a burn in problem.
anyone who says "my oled doesnt burn after 10hrs a day" get their reasons to say that.... they are paid shills, re7ards or just trolls.
@@uhohwhy What are your facts ?
@@charaznable8072 brother whts your usage , I think real problem is when we use it for ms office , other programms and web surfing
It's just like in real life, the gorgeous ones are untouchable. 😅
i reject your reality for my own.
@@jackmeoff7099 me 2 (now the next person that comments has to comment in a year)
Only the ones with money get the gorgeous ones.
@@Lumpia_In_Texas so true. Fortunately, I have both (for now - when you lose one, the other generally takes a hit).
Yup.. gorgeous one always related to money power
btw panel refresh is to save your OLED from burn in! so switching it off solve one issue, but created another.
Honestly touchscreens on laptops is one of those features you just want to be there but end up never using
agreed. used it like 3 times 😂
Use all the time for scrolling & reading webpages in a comfortable sitting position.
@@casualsweater but using a trackpad is more natural ob laptops. No reaching out.
Yeah exactly. I used it very very occasionally on my Surface Pro and HP Chromebook x2 when connected as laptops. I wouldn't pay extra for it on a laptop.
Not true .. I can tell you didnt had one..
OLED is a godsend for color accuracy and contrast. It so effortlessly does the job.
But that burn in tho
OLEDs are overrated to the extreme.
love my alienware 13 r3 oled touch screen xD
@@suhailcouto1832 That Alienware with oled screen is out for a couple of years now and did not have any real issues when it comes to burn in tho
@@suhailcouto1832 just turn on the dark modes
I'm still worried for that screen burn-in. LCD is still a great choice for laptops. especially when you're making documents where the screen does not move that much.
Thanks for mentioning screen burn in issue in Oled screen. I didn't even know about it.
But its fixable now with pixel shifting and pixel refresher
Just wanted to point out that disabling Panel Self Refresh on an OLED will likely lead to screen burn in. Isn't it there to prevent that from happening?
I don't think the camera really does the OLED screen justice here. I have an 4K LG OLED C8 tv, and that thing puts all my other professional photo editing IPS panels to shame. Both the colors, contrast and the blacks are phenomenal. Looking forward to when the OLED panels for computers becomes mainstream.
I went with the FHD LCD panel because I really don't like glossy displays in naturally lit rooms and I like a very long battery life so I can forget about carrying a power brick and a laptop bag everywhere.
Will prefer LCD with touch screen to avoid burn in... battery on LCD is fine and bright enough which is enough for me than the OLED...
Burn in doesn't happen if u just hide the W10 task bar automatically.
I have a galaxy book from Samsung Which I use as a laptop at my work and tablet at home. That means 8 hours a day 5 days a week. I use this thing since 2y+ and I got 0 burning.
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How I know ?
Just put a single colour full screen image made on Photoshop or whatever.
Ppl cries about pblm that doesn't exist.
But one thing is sure. Once you tasted an oled laptop, you can never go back.
It's simply impossible.
For me it's oled laptop or no laptop.
Jean Yves Coffy oled is so much better? For what purpose you use your laptop?
@@dariobotkuljak9673 I am a graphic artist. Since 20+ years. I know ppl will say that oled tend to exagerate colors, but there is profile and calibration for this. Once calibrated, oled screens are way better than lcd's. Black is black, white is white, colors are accurate toot, oled are simply better in every possible way if you know what you are doing. I won countless number of contracts cause of my oled screens during presentation, the crucial moment.
When you present an illustration on an outsanding oled screen like the galaxy book 12, or a simple accurate ipad lcd, the customer will be way more impressed with the galaxy book, i tested it, for an extended period of time then i sold back the ipad pro, well , it bent too, but thats another pblm.
Everyone has its standart. For me its oled.
Of course my 3* 4k 32inchs screens are not oled, so is my wacom. But each screen has its utility. If oled come to desktop monitors i will buy it, whatever the price, which will be likely extremly high.
For me, phone, laptop, its oled or no-go.
@@jeanyvescoffy8315 Hey man seems like you know a lot about these, wondering if you could help please? On the XPS 15 OLED, are you able to adjust the colour temperature and saturation using the software? Other people are saying that you can't do it. Cheers
@@jeanyvescoffy8315 what about the static task bars of applications that you work in? Id assume that would cause burn in. do you avoid these taskbars somehow or does it simply just not get burn in?
That OLED screen looks so much better, I think with time they will definitely get better and become the new standard.
The future display technology will be Microled search them up if you dont know what microled is
The same as oled with even better color accuracy, faster response time, much much brighter even brighter than lcds, very hight PPI (microled displays ppi can go up to 10000 ppi, where lcd and oled only have 85-300ppi( ppi makes the screen sharper and if you have hight ppi you dont have to use anti-alaising while playing games which is a huuuge advantage. They have wider color space than oled and guess what? No burn in.
The main drawback of OLED on a laptop has to be burn in, I can definitely see that windows task bar deciding to burn it self into the bottom of the screen over a year of use ..
Well you can go to your settings and let the taskbar be visible only when your pointer is on the bottom.
@@jackbanxian That is a nice idea, and I have used it before with an LCD laptop, but it just makes switching programs a lot slower (because of the slow animation). I guess OLED ain't for me
@@Aksh-jm2lg The animation is fast enough. Besides D2D tested the OLED m15 for 2 weeks and no signs of burn in.
That, and the close/minimize window Buttons on the top right
few years we have alainwere laptop r3 OLED screen noone is complaining
I mean it depends on what people like and what feels and looks nice with what they do. The second one is the oled cause i see the whites look more cream
It's because that you see both screens next to each other. But true plain white is not that white which you used to see on these days competing phones or tv's or other screens. Also blueish white harmful especially before sleep.
agree i like the blinding effect of crisp led any old day.
I've had the OLED for a week now and it's the best display I've ever seen on a laptop. Just orgasmic to watch 4k video on. Returned the Macbook pro 15 and selling the Macbook Air. No comparison. The power of the machine is just an added benefit ! Love this Dell. First I ever owned.
:D for sure. If all blinded apple slaves would go out of marketing mist. Would never go back to mac
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what about burn in after using ?
I will get the 1080p instead. Need them extra battery life
But doesn't OLED turn off the pixels in order to get those deep rich blacks? So aren't you essentially saving battery life using that technology
@@Zipzeolocke Do you look at a black picture all day at your laptop? Most tasks is mainly bright and white, and there the OLED is using way more energy compared to a LCD.
@@Echoes- what iif you fully dark theme your pc experience?
The battery savings on the oled are not as much compared to how people exaggerate it. Its still pushing 4 times the pixel amount and how much of the time using the laptop will there be black screen. I mean cmon
For me I couldn't justify spending the extra $250 - $300. I bought a 4k 27 inch monitor on Amazon prime day with that money instead.
For me, my mind will never make up to buy an OLED version since I worry the screen will suffer from severe burn-in in a couple years. Imagine being in a work environment and using the same application 9-10 hours a day. In fact, IPS LCD panels have really improved in quality over the years, and OLED panels are better suited for Tablets and Phones where content consumption is generally more.
Proof it.
It was a old configuration ,now it a myth.
Watching this one a XPS 7590 4K OLED, I'm glad I got this one. Bought it for my graphic design studies and it will definitely do the job
I am also considering to buy this one. Can you maybe tell me more about the battery life you experience on the things you do? Beceause that is something where my doubts are
@Anthony LaMarc Thanks for the info! Atm my (old) laptop can't even get 2 hours so that sucks. But I would love to go to school (around 4/6hours) and use my laptop without charging. (not heavy load, like using lightroom or word). I am someone who use lightroom alot and after effects for video editing. So I assume OLED is the way to go for me. How is the screen brightness outdoor btw?
looking to get this one for college film courses, where ill be doing video editing almost everyday, how has the temps been while you have been using yours? Have you run into any over heating or thermal throttling?
@@alyj6381 no thermal throttling so far, ive noticed it getting a little bit warmer when rendering but nothing to worry about at all
@@thomasvandenbergh1098 do you have the i7 or i9?
I first noticed the banding issue on my 9570 while watching Netflix. Had me scratching my head for a while thinking it was a compression issue. After some digging, im almost certain it is to do with the intel HD graphics drivers. If you have a video open with compression artifacts, pause it and open the Intel graphics control panel and go to display > colour settings. If I move one of the sliders (contrast, for example) 1 point, and then back to where it was, then hit apply, the banding seems to subside
I have the OLED and for most content and use it looks incredible, but I find the whites noticeably over warm. It's quite distracting and I'm concerned about it affecting my photo editing (I've not had a chance to do any serious editing yet though since buying the machine). This is after calibrating with DisplayCal and Color Munki Display. Any advice? Perhaps its due to the DCI P3 coverage you mentioned?
How is it now
@@rohanvernekar1947 fine!
So happy with the non-reflective OLED screen. I jump around between co-working spaces and coffee shops and my touchscreen XPS 15 was like a mirror if I sat next to a window. It was almost impossible to see what was actually on my screen. Soooo frustrating. I now have the OLED screen and I'm so happy with the non-reflective screen. It looks amazing and noooooo reflections now.
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You're my favourite reviewer, always energetic, smiling, informative!! Thanks for all your work and passion!
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Hi, Tom. Thank you for your great review. The question is how are your eyes dealing with OLED? No irritation? OLED looks great, but I noticed my eyes become more tired from my OLED smartphone screen rather than from LCD on my laptop.
You replied to my comment on your other video saying I should not get the oled. Glad I still bought the OLED because we don't have the 1TB version of the 4k touschscreen in the UK haha! Can't wait to receive my laptop shipment now that you think oled is actually the better choice 😊
Those artifacts at 2:35 on LCD panel aren't here because of the panel itself. I'm 100% sure it's because of Intel GPU video settings. You can turn off their "improvements" in Intel Graphics Control Center app and you have to do it once per display (settings are separate for internal display and external monitors and TVs). It was ruining videos on my XPS 15 9570.
That's true, it might be Intel's power consumption "improvements". They ruined my display as well, when my laptop was not plugged in.
I had a similar screen flickering issue on the Dell XPS 7590 4k Touch but it was my own doing. So it was the heatsink placement. I had re-pasted and everything was good except the number 3 screw hole was elevated a lot! I put this down to screws one and 2 causing the displacement and pushed on. When all was back together have mild at first, when loosened it was extreme and tightened better. Then I noticed (after a nights sleep when i could think properly) that the top of the heatsink, the VRAM and MOSFET cooling portion, (in the centre and off the top of the pipes) that part had caught on the silver lip of the laptop and was not sitting flush! Was both a horrific revelation and a relief. I disassembled once more, re-pasted, and correctly positioned the sink and all is well. So i'd check that and also the thermal pads under that part or the sink, mine needed to be slightly replaced.
I'd always choose an IPS LCD panel over an OLED panel for anything other than watching movies. The consensus seems to be that the color vibrancy of OLED panels comes at the expense of color accuracy. While color vibrancy is great for watching movies, it's not so great for content creation where you actually rely on accurate color reproduction. So it's interesting that you would choose an OLED panel for video/photo editing over an IPS panel when most others would advice precisely the opposite...
Hi Tom, I'm considering buying one of these two laptops at the moment and was interested in knowing almost a year on, have you experienced burn out on the OLED display?
I'm on the fence about getting either the oled or ips lcd, I will be using it for video editing and streaming so the oled would be nice but I have the same concern
Great video! I love the banding comparison. I would love a game of thrones the long night freeze frame comparison (jk, compression and bad lighting can't be solved with oled)
You could also mention better response times for gaming on the OLED, while concluding the video.
Random question for XPS users - for all those video editors out there that use an XPS & premiere pro... What Dell Premiercolor display do you use on your laptop when you're editing?
Photo (Adobe RBG) or Internet (sRGB) ???
Adobe
The best RUclipsrs who goes through every aspect of the laptop
Told us about the quick fix too
Thank you very much for this Comparison which was really helpful for my decision .
Thanks man, been waiting for someone to do the comparison. Finally.
You got a point. But unless you are in the editing tasks, you are not gonna give too much atenttion to those details. Great review dude as usual, you never let us down!!!
Great video. For XPS 9320, Which one do you think is best for productivity? Mostly MS office, Excel, web browsing. Thank you
I am amazed over that your last 5-6 years can find a lot of OLED TVs, but not any OLED-laptops or external computer displays. Thats relly mind blowing. Good to see some few laptops start to go over to "old" OLED techology, lol.
I have to OLED version as well and I do get that bright flicker too. Thanks for sharing the solution to solve this issue.
Did it solve ur issue?
@@neseanjohnson1585 it didn't make any difference. But with the latest firmware update, flicker seems not occur anymore.
Has anyone encountered this problem on linux ?
@@oleglego8673 , I have not tried to install Linux on the XPS.
cant wait for your full review, so far have you noticed any over heating or thermal throttling? Im really considering buying this one for doing my video creation & editing for college film courses.
Big throttling and overheating with i9 - avoid unless you want to undervolt
@@Thetechchap :( that could be a deal breaker for me. What if it had the i7-8750h on the older model? Any other recs for a relatively thin & light laptop that would be best for video creation & editing using adobe programs?
The video that I've been waiting for along time.. Thanks tom you are the 🐐
My concern is the difference when gaming.
I know this is not a gaming laptop but I would use it for world or warcraft occasionally.
The 1080p panel has a lot less graphics to push unless you play in 1080p and have a softer image due to scaling.
Great content. Thanks! May you also test the OLED/LCD for PWM flickering? Thanks bro!
I ran into PWM flickering on my 1st 4k tv by vizio...it looked great but I was getting terrible eyestrain and headaches shortly after buying it and couldnt understand why....then after a lot of research, i heard of this PWM flickering and on the vizio it was caused by a setting called "Backlight control". once that was turned off, the issue with my eyes stopped like magic...
Thanks Tom
Very informative video!
Hey Tom - great vid again... Just curious, which Dell docking station is good for this laptop (TB16 or TB19) to connect Dell 27 4K monitor? I read from reddit TB19 was not a good fit. Which one do u recommend it? Thanks.
i'm a owner xps 7590. OLED dispaly is awesome especially when i watch 4k documentary, photos, movie. i want to say you should buy it.
exactly :)
Is this laptop perfect for a computer science student who wants to code alot and do a bit of photo and video editing and watching youtube/Netflix..??
Yh
Yep! Ideal for that!
Why not the X1 Extreme? The keyboard on the thinkpad will be much better as you'll spend more time on the keyboard
a bit overkill. Also keep in mind that you maybe want to write something down in classes. x360 by lenovo is pretty good
I'm surprised you did not focus more on the burn in problems that OLED has as a PC has a lot of static pictures which can cause this. Even more than TV's and this is a problem I have experienced myself without any help from LG. My message to all is to avoid OLED unless you are prepared to replace your device frequently.
Though, the Alienware R3 has been out for a couple of years now and had no burn in issues whatsoever. Also, LG uses a different kind of technique for their panels compared to Samsung.
The only thing I use my touchscreen for on my XPS 9570 is to close out of windows. 😅 I personally think unless you have the XPS 9575 or a 2 in 1 laptop a touch screen is really useless for anything but shutting out windows. You cannot use the pen to write because the angle is too weird. But if you already have a 9560 or newer it is pointless to upgrade to a new XPS right now also. Great video Tom!
The touch screens are very useful in photo editing for the pinch and zooming. That's my primary reason, it just feels so natural...
I'LL go with OLED I love the color contrast in OLED ..it gives us rich look to enjoy with the screen each and every moment u spent with your OLED LAPTOP
That banding issue on lcd can be fixed inside the intel graphics control panel inside color settings
By changing color gamt from natural to vivid
From the very start of the video I could instantly tell the one on the right was the OLED, all you have to do is look at anything black on the screen. You can instantly tell the color black is deep rich pixels being completely turned off as opposed to light pretending to be the color black with the LCD
I just got mine xps 15 this evening. I'm surprised by the heft of the laptop. I always have this picture of Dell's being plastic-y and low end... i'm pleasantly surprised. But i went with the 4k touch screen instead of the OLED. I like the extra ability to touch the screen instead of using the touch pad all the time. Also, i think it could be great for photo editing... does anyone know if the Dell Premium Active Pen is compatible with the 7590? I haven't been able to find it...
Tons of respect for that little fix for screen flickering. I was wondering if it makes sense to buy OLED for someone who spends quite some time coding. From what I see\hear
ead seems like it's not an issue with that "panel auto update" fix
Xps 15 7590 Oled vs Razer Blade 15 Oled vs Aero 15 Oled. Who's the winner? Would love to see a comparison.
Those who know what to look for can easily identify the two in a side-by-side comparison. It was the contrast that tipped me off.
How’s that oled display holding up? Any issues with burn in or other problems? Considering oled for my next laptop.
You should have covered the durability issues of each a little more. I hear that OLEDs can burn out in certain areas more easily than the LCD screens. You make good videos but not enough details. They feel like infomercials.
Banding on LCD is because of wide gamut and color transformation to sRGB from Adobe RGB, because Windows operates in sRGB. OLED doesn't cover Adobe RGB to 100% so that tool you are talking about was not supposed to be used with OLED. In order to fix banding switch to sRGB in the tool, and use sRGB color profile. And you will have perfect grays
I tent to believe the comparison test you did at 2:28 has some problems, I tested the same video on my junk laptop, entry level 4k tv and asus mg279q monitor, none of them shows banding.
I was waiting for this!!! Thanks!
I'm worried about the growing issue about screen bleeding on LED base screens the thing is you won't notice it immediately it takes 2-3 years before you start to notice specially loptops screens stay screen on more longer than smartphones like when you are editing, rendering and those kind of stuff i wish they can fix this LED problem because obviously LED based screens are so much better than LCDs
I had really bad banding on the OLED. You should look at your screen at 5-10% gray and see. Maybe I just lost the panel lottery? Had to send it back.also the heat it was putting out was awful.
I have the exact same issue. I've just spent way too much time trying to fix it and nothing works. I think I'll return it and go for a mac.. they are just so much more expensive..
Do you have any suggestions on what I could do fix the banding issues?
Really nice to see the differences between these
OLED is the panel which makes display look incredible at 1080p or even UHD. Its makes the experience a lot more better than IPS.
*Meanwhile*
Pro gamers: 1080p 144Hz or 240Hz with
Panel self refresh is for avoiding Burn-In Insuppose. Similar to Always On Display in AMOLED phones. Turning this off means risking the life of display. Correct me if I am wrong.
Thanks bro for this helpful comparison video. I was about to order the IPS one but now I’ll buy the one with OLED panel 🖖
Hi John, did you buy the OLED? how has the reliability been any flickering issues? Thanks
Pwm issue is a real thing. Its a health hazard.
Hey, could you please make a review of the Lenovo X1 extreme gen 2 ? A comparison between Dell XPS 15 Between X1 Extreme Gen 2 would be super awesome!
I loved this video! Could you do a HP Spectre x360 15.6 2020 version 4K UHD IPS 340 nit, 4K UHD IPS 400 nit, and 4K UHD UWVA AMOLED 400 nit comparison? It would be greatly appreciated!! I just got hired for my first full time job as a teacher and am needing a new laptop badly (mine is 12 years old)! I love the true blacks of amoled but I also need battery life. I would like to see the actual color differences and any possible issues between the three before i spend the money i have been trying so hard to save up so i can offer my students a better distant learning experience. Thank you for taking the time to read this!
Oled was $50 cheaper option vs the 4K LCD up here in Canada. Get my oled xps 15 tomorrow 😁
the main difference is LCD arrive in 3-5 business days and the OLED is more than 30!!!!
What do you mean by closer. The oled is better in every way and release 1/3 the amount of blue light that the lcd releases. So it is better for your eyes. Only downside is burn in
@The Tech Chap: Watching this on my 4K OLED Spectre. This one seems to have an additional pen input touch layer which is visible under certain circumstances, like a grainy pixelated layer on top of the OLED panel itself- and unfortunately this layer reduces a bit of the OLEDs stunning resolution and clearness. As your reviewed Dell is a non touch (glossy) display you might have clearer whites with this one. For those having concerns about burn in: It won't happen at all. I've been using a 13 inch OLED Spectre for over 2 years, most of the time with static elements and never had any burn in issues. Even color shift (due to the shorter longevity of blue pixels) was not noticeable. There are some potential issues with the current 4K Samsung AMOLEDs though: PWM flicker at around 60 Hz, color bending with grey colors/backgrounds, color 'lag' when moving certain colored objects in front of a black background, contrast shift at highest brightness settings (that might be a driver issue).
exactly same mesh crap on the p1 gen2 of lenovo i just received.. this companies should not be trusted they are backstabbers selling 3k$ duds to everybody with a smile ... they fake not knowing about the defect while they sell thousand of these piece of crap voluntary broken oled panel
these scammers including samsung merit a big fucking fat class act lawsuits of billions of dollars.. it's time people wake up.. these companies want to make their customer suffer hell.. like intel do...
I'm considering getting an OLED Spectre 15, how can I check for this defect?
@@sviatoslavpetrovych2066 if its touch good chances it will be the same.. its hard to know.. the lenono p1 gen2 clearly had this and take note that they THEY say its normal... if you buy one take time to scrutinize the screen for anything... oled should be perfect... if you find anything return it in the spot
i would go for the dell since glossy and not touch
Hi there, how's ur experience now with OLED...did u face any screen burn in issue, pls update..
What is the difference between the response times of the panels?
Oled should be better sometimes OLEDs reach 0.1 ms.
@@xanton1895 any idea what the response time is on the 4k LCD panel so I can compare it to others?
GO ASUS, I made this change 2013 after replacing 2 or 3 dell products particularly XPS model. I went ASUS and never regretted. If you afford ASUS ROG, they are the best powerful durable laptops.
thanks so much for the tips of flickering with OLED! Saved my life!!!
I WAS WAITING FOR THIS FROM CENTURIES.........
Tom: For me i would go for the OLED
Me: i don't even have money to buy $15 charger
hahahaha
Watching this on my Pantone calibrated Aero 15 OLED. Love this panel and it's insane contrast and color volume. Thanks to Samsung for an awesome screen.
I think for anyone not editing videos and photos - the LCD is a much better choice.
even without editing the OLED has a far superior picture so i don't really see this as a clear choice unless you value battery life or don't want to pay the premium
as the owner of a CRT and an OLED phone my IPS LCD with dogshit contrast fucks me up every time when theres any black/dark content
Angelo Merte
I think, in this case (Dell XPS), the LCD’s quality is high enough for most people, and when factoring all other aspects (besides display quality) the LCD has the upper hand... But, it’s eventually a matter of needs and personal preferences...
The problem with the IPS ones is that you can only get them with 16GB of RAM and 512GB SSD. That's enough for the average person, but, if you're buying the 4k IPS display, which comes with an extremely powerful i9 processor, to do 4k video editing, you need more RAM and storage than that. I don't really see the point of the i9 with 16GB of RAM. If you only need 16GB of RAM, you don't need an i9.
Actually, I think the banding is due to compression. I have a 4K LCD monitor and an OLED TV. The same thing happens on my monitor with highly compressed content from RUclips, Netflix and Amazon Prime. However, whenever I download a raw 4k video file or connect my 4k blu ray player to my monitor, that banding-like effect is gone. I think OLEDs just handles compressed video better than LCDs.
Of course, it's possible that you can see banding in some videos due to compression. However, in this case, it's Intel's GPU drivers settings for videos. From my experience, it's best to just disable all of Intel's "features" because they make every video look more compressed as evidenced in this video. Also, don't believe this guy then it comes to Dell's laptops, this video sort of confirms that again. He missed so many XPS 15 issues that are present on various models for years (as evidenced by other trustworthy sites like notebookcheck, ultrabookreview and users on Reddit). I guess he gets free devices from Dell so he's being very cautious with issues.
One for gaming another video, picture, and content creation. Go for which you do the most
Going to buy the 1080p version of XPS 15 7590. Is that a good option or should I go with OLED for an extra $300? I am a research student in the engineering domain; and, not a video editor but do photo editing occasionally.
And Tom, expected your thoughts on the 1080p version in this video.
Since you said you won't be doing a lot of video or photo editing, the LCD is the better option as it is much cheaper. But if you can get the oled it's just phenomenal and once you get used to oled it's hard to go back to lcd
Thank you for this video. I’ve been torn between two screens. I Know these are not gaming laptops but I would like to do some moderate gaming on them. Two questions for you that might help me finally pull the trigger:
1. Which panel performs faster for gaming or would you say they’re the same with respect to ghosting or screen tearing. I use my SB2 currently for light gaming and the screen quality when moving quickly and panning side to side isn’t very good.
2. Does last years XPS perform the same as this years? I’m leaning toward the LCD and if this is the same as last years I might get one of the Dell Outlet models.
Thank you!
(Last years lcd perform the same as this years lcd is what I meant)
Hey Tom at Tech Chap, can you review the new Inspiron 15 7000, the black edition with 4k display!! Thanks. 😁
I bought an Alienware m15 r3 and it’s got an oled display. Even though I’m returning it for thermal problems I don’t think I can go back to lcd. It’s just so much easier on your eyes
very useful. I was suprised to see you got 100% adobeRGB in teh OLED, as Dell does not advertise it as such. any chance you saved the DispayCal results? what does the deltaE is for both panels? (for me, that is an essential part of the color accuracy as important as the % coverage)
The display cal results are in the vid (I forget where I'm out at the moment but I do include the screenshots from it. You can pause the vid and zoom in to see Delta e I think
Hey I'm thinking about getting one of these for mainly music production usage on Ableton Live. I've heard there were some latency issues? Have you experienced anything of sorts?
Great channel!
Is OLED oversaturated in terms of color editing?
hows the resale value for these xps laptops?
should i wait for 2020 to see if they release something great?
I desperately wish the OLED one had touch screen :(
Great video, by the way, Tom ~!!
I feel your pain
If you feel like Razer OLED is too expensive, you can get the HP Spectre x360 Gem Cut OLED with touch for much less.
Ancients Nox I am aware of both options. IMO 15W CPU on the Spectre with OLED is just inexcusable compared to Razer Blade or XPS 15, or the IPS version of the Spectre
@@Evie0133Totally agree, if you play games and/or doing anything GPU intensive then the Razer OLED is worth it. For me, I just need a portable machine on the go for documents, Photoshop, media consumption and occasionally playing e sports games etc. MX 150 2GB is weak for sure, but that will be just fine fo my specific needs for that laptop. And I really want that OLED touch screen. Now that I have that, I can patiently wait for the Micro LED.
Hello, great videos as always. As you have both is there any difference in timeline performance between the i7 and i9 editing 4k?
Thanks
i'm watching it on an OLED laptop. Colors are amazing.
Much love from Nigeria 🇳🇬... I love your reviews.
Yup, I'd go OLED. (with warranty incase of screen burn in issues) The brighter colors would be HEAVILY missed but the smooth amd rich Color Wins for me. 😎👌
IPS is 40ms black to white response rate and OLED is 2ms black to white. Do not get the IPS unless you like feeling sick scrolling or having mouse trails over dark backgrounds. I have a 12ms gaming monitor and 40ms is just horrible on a pc in 2021.
I'm a coder , actually i don't need touch screen it's useless for me. so i like this oled setting , perfact display without touch screen!
Best video ever with LCD vs OLED screen. Video covered all aspects. Thanks a lot.
@waquzy It does not, the LCD 4K is in fact more expensive than the OLED.
@waquzy There is one for sure.
@waquzy It's literally in this video.
@waquzy The LCD panel is in both 1080p and 4K, and he has the 4K one in this video as you can see.
It's very clear when showing dark scenes
My XPS 15 9550 Full HD still works fine
Do a "FHD vs 4K LCD" please
whats the difference between fhd and 4k lcd ?
You can tell me the serial or the manufacturer of the oled display. Would I like to install it on my laptop 15.6?