Surging and Stalling Ryobi Inverter Generator Fixed - RYI2300
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
- This Ryobi inverter generator is only 15 month old and surging when under light loads and stalling under heavier loads. I am the second owner. Not sure if it has always been like this.
The carburetor is spotless. Not sure if there is a design issue or just a bad carburetor. Will troubleshoot the surging / stalling issue and resolve.
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Just bought this generator yesterday 2nd hand, was showed it worked and took it home. I fired it up and pluged in a light and a car fridge/freezer and left it running to see how the "gas mileage" was going to be. Started to play up surging after a few minutes and naturally I thought I had been conned and payed good money for a pile of ****. Then I looked on RUclips and found your post of this issue/fix. Turned the knob towards choke and found the sweet spot for the unit and now no surging. Thanks mate from the land down under.
This guy is so easy to listen to... his voice is not grating... great vids... very knowledgeable.. an excellent presenter.. and best of all...
NO DAMNABLE MUSIC WITH VIDS !!!!!
Thanks, but I did put music in a couple. Everyone makes mistakes...
I've had mine for 7 months (180 hours logged, maintenance done as specified). I had noticed the surges on a regular basis, but they had never affected me until yesterday (the generator would constantly shut off after 10-30 seconds, no matter what the load). I purged a quart of gas down from the carburetor and noticed what seems to be carbon deposit coming out of it. More importantly, I also noticed that the gas flow is not even when the knob is on RUN (as you show it). I now set the knob between C and H (of CHOKE) and there are no surges at all!. Thanks a lot!
Glad I could help. Wish Ryobi would get rid of the easy start system and let people control the choke and fuel valve separately.
@@jcondon1 ddk
It might be easy start but its not easy run. Its a stupid system. They can't even get the sticker in the right place. The "easy start" knob is too dumbed down and plasticy. Give people proper access to the carberettor and fuel valve.
Mine i still in the box. Watching this video in its entirety and reading your comment as well. Thank you! I'll remove and test it out tomorrow or Wednesday. Thanks!
This really does work just bumped it up and it’s running like butter. I wonder if the inter workings of the knob loosen over time…..and should maybe be adjusted.
Dude I've been having issues with these ryobis and you just solved my issue. My most recent was brand new but came with fuel in it which implies someone returned it. It ran great for 30 min then started surging. I tried your method and the surging immediately stopped. I feel so dumb, ryobi has probably lost so much money due to this
This is one the best troubleshoot videos I have seen. Same thing was happening to mines. I live in Puerto Rico so its very important for me to have my generator working good due to how vulnerable we are to Storms and Hurricanes. I had figure out the knob thing by accident actually. But your video helped me understand the reasoning of the gas flow. It also will prevent me for going to buy a Carburator or the plug. Since now I know seeing your video and reading the comments that this is normal for these generators.
Glad I could help. Thanks.
Mine too
Just wanted to say a huge THANK YOU, we are in Florida and without power after Ian blasted through. We were having the surging problem and were getting really frustrated when it kept stalling out. Just adding a little choke to it and we are up and running smoothly. Thank you so much for taking the time to share this.
I have a neighbor here in PR with the same problem the thing is his does the surging even with out power connected to the generator . We changed spark plug added stabilizer and fuel filter . The generator was working just fine for a couple of months during after math hurricane Maria . I'm going to try out the fix presented here to see how it goes even though we have all ready played around with the choke and did not have much results I will let you guys know how it goes . Thanks for the tutorial.
I am having the same issue with mine with no load. Added fuel stabilizer and after about 30 minutes it seemed to have fixed the problem.
@@TheTrev4477 I’m trying find this now
Most amazing “trouble shooting” video I’ve ever seen. Your attention to detail is unmatched. Thank you for the time you put into making this video! Great job. 👍🏽
Thanks
The main problem is that fuel line going to the valve have too much vend and vibration from the engine cuts the fuel flow I connected the fuel line straight to the carburator and it fix the surging completely.
Great video......up to the point of the readjustment near the end of the video, it would have been nice to see how you adjusted the knob that was the ultimate issue. I guess the first test should be fuel flow and adjusting that knob correctly. You provided excellent instructions on how to remove the carb and that gives me confidence to work on mine.
I picked up this unit brand new non-working for $200 earlier today. Half an hour later it was running and I verified it had .1 run hours on it. It looked like someone bought it, tired it with gas, drained the tank but didn't drain the carb bowl and it plugged the jet. I never was a huge Ryobi fan but I'm pretty happy with it, especially for $200.
Hi, and no you are not the only one having this issue. I am hoping i will not have to replace my carburetor like you did. Wish me luck.
just bought one off the shelf and I can confirm this issue is still present. couldn’t figure out why I couldn’t power a 1500 watt heat gun. followed your dial fix and it runs perfect now. thank you!
I have the same generator manufactured in July 2018. Was having similar issues with stalling under load, followed your instructions to find the knob position to deliver max fuel flow to the carb, then adjusted choke cable. The result was perfection! Thank you so much your video saved me so much frustration.
Can you explain your method for adjusting the choke and cable? Where do you set the knob before you adjust the cable?
Spoiler Alert! I think we learned something today. Surging is a function of fuel delivery. Or can be. I saw a test on 10 engines using different fuel stabilizers and they all surged on cold start, except for one. I believe they were taken off choke too quickly. (instantly) Again, too lean a mixture. Your machine was surging because of fuel starvation. Or fuel reduction causing a lean mixture again.
Now every time I see surging, I'm going to remember this. I think it makes sense.
Great videos and channel.
Thanks
Have the same generator, actually my second (first returned to the store within a couple days due to it seizing up/shutting off + gas getting into the oil), but mine has the exact same issue in this video. THANK YOU for helping out with this. I've been so frustrated trying to figure out what the problem is. In the past I had gas somehow get into the oil and thought it was toast, after that happened to my original one within days of buying it so I brought it back to HD for a replacement. Changed the oil on my 2nd unit and I haven't had that since, but I still get the surging/stalling issue your video starts off showing. Appreciate you showing how to fix this, now I at least have something to try: turning the damn knob a couple degrees more toward start/choke. 😅
I will open the side and chk gas flow - if it a gas issue just for sure Peace bro
Fun fact, you can also turn the knob half way to off... It will let the gen run until it is out of fuel... Good to store or without needing to remove the side cover and drain the bowl manually.
Thanks for posting this James!
I believe the issue is with the valve in the fuel switch. Unlike most other brands of inverter generators out there, Ryobi’s don’t have an in tank fuel strainer, and the fuel filter is after the fuel switch assembly. This allows debris to travel from the tank to the switch, and gets lodged in there, clogging it.
These generators are very temperamental. I was repairing my *new* Firman 2000 and realized it has strainer in bottom of the tank, in the line, as well as the input strainer on the top. Definitely room for improvement Ryobi.
My family owns 2 of these since 2017, and they have never worked right. Very sad.
Took mine out today and draind the gas, tried to start it to burn off the gas in the line and the pull rope broke. It has about 4 or 5 small nylon lines wrapped in a nylon sleeve! Totally a peice of junk.
How do you access this valve?
Here's a suggestion: Flip the clear plastic carburetor drain tube up so its end is elevated above the carburetor, then open the drain screw. You now have a sight gauge that shows you the level of fuel in the carburetor bowl. If the level drops when running (particularly when under heavy load), then there is something restricting fuel flow into the carburetor. In my case, the bowl remains full under all conditions, even as I turn the fuel valve toward the off position while under heavy load. I do observe some mild surging when the unit has little or no load on it. I suspect that to be a design issue in the feedback loop of the generator's speed control. It might be possible to smooth it out by increasing the idle speed a little bit on the carburetor, but I usually have enough load on the generator to where it's not idling anyway.
Flipping the breather tube, now that is a good Idea and worth remembering..
@@fredjones7307 It's not a breather tube, it's a drain tube for the float bowl.
Semantics, it's a good idea and functional for the task. bravo!
I just bought this generator and saw that most of them have this issues. It comes in tomorrow. Hopefully I wont have this issue. But nonetheless you are a god for walking through the various steps to diagnose the problem. Thank you for doing this!
Thanks
To be truthful with you I wouldnt pick it up. Buy a Honda or a Multiquip. Much quieter and no problems. I would never own anything Ryobi again.
Way to power through the issues. I have watched dozens and dozens of your videos. I'd almost rather do my own vasectomy than work on a Ryobi after watching the struggle.
It would be tough to do your own vasectomy, imagine the discipline needed to firmly grasp one testicle while carefully injecting a syringe of local anasthetic in the correct place (I was not at all looking so I can only wonder where that is) to induce the numbness required. Then you have to wait for the numbness to kick in prior to cutting through the scrotal tissue (just the one layer, of course) with a (hopefully) sharp pair of scissors. Once through, you have to rummage around through the opening you created and isolate the specific tube to cut, remove a short but somehow still long enough section of it, and I hear it makes a vast difference if you don't get the length of section correct (sorry about that) and then cauterize each of the ends. Don't forget to stitch it back up! I had to leave it to an expert.
@@Wingnut_Stickman you might be surprised to hear that it is really not very challenging. I do my own surgeries all the time. 👍🏽
@@Wingnut_Stickman vast difference. rofl..... I bow in deference to your humor.
@@somethingelsehere8089 thank you, thank you ...
.......little too much information there Wingnut!@@Wingnut_Stickman
Thank you, I bought mine in 2020 and the warranty is run out and I just went to use it for a 15 amp saw the other day and had this problem and your video popped up as a solution. Saved me a headache and probably a lot of money, Even went back and watched it again because you taught me how to pull it apart!
Purchased this ruclips.net/user/postUgkxOTeIs0vv4_9B5hsmnLsk9r930uDQLu_Y after researching several brands.Reasons for picking this one was, dual fuel, I don't have to carry gasoline and stink up my truck bed!Propane is so much cleaner.Quiet 62 db, won't piss off neighboring campers!Less than 100 lbs, can lift in to truck bed.I can run my 30 foot Transcend 261BH, AC among other appliances.
Great video!!! I bought two of these and reading about this issue had me a bit concerned, I think you nailed it ! good job Great demo !!
Seems to be running good now, good job figuring it out.
This is a perfect example of why you should not mix ignition on off, fuel on off, and choke on off into one control. Much better to keep them separate, the biggest advantages it allows you to turn the fuel off and run it out of fuel so the carburetor stays dry. this is especially useful if the generator doesn't get used very often. Which is the situation for most people.
I've got a harbor freight 2500 watt inverter generator that I bought several years ago. Fortunately it does have a separate ignition fuel and choke. I've never had any issues with it failing to start. The only real negative is it has a vacuum pulse fuel pump. doesn't really seem to gravity feed fuel into the carburetor very well. So since the bowl is empty it requires several pulls of the recoil starter to get the fuel flowing. Once it does it starts right up.
I think if I ever buy another generator, I will definitely pick one that's electric start and electronic fuel injected. That will eliminates most of the issues.
My advice would be to buy Honda or Multiquip (Honda motor) more money but no problems. Run it for a few minutes 3 or 4 times a year and use alcohol free (recreational gas) in ALL your small motors.
Great video, as always.
When you showed the surging issue I was thinking fuel straight away, and the minute you got that plug out of the engine my first thought was that the plug had all the signs of a lean mix.
Never, ever trust some plastic knob and a stick on label combo to set something, always check the Fuel, Air, Compression, & Spark, or FACeS...
Yes, do it properly. Stupid plastic knob and sticker thats not even stuck on in the right place.
Thanks for the video, I have been an owner for a little over a year and have come across this issue as well. Well I actually bought the generator at the time the guy who resold wholesale returned merchandise said it would start the first time and just wouldn’t restart again, so I assumed the carburetor as well. Funny thing after I got the carburetor cleaned and checked fuel flow the problem ended up being the gas top did not let the machine breath fuel flow was restricted. When I have these issues of surges I usually open gas top and the problem goes away, weird but simple.
Mainly use to power RV at the Beach
Open I meant just loosen gas top
Your both a teacher and a easy to listen to RUclipsr. As this is my first video ive watch of yours. But I definitely plan on seeing more
Wow! I had this problem and you’re definitely right! Was worried I would have to take it back but works fine with just pointing the knob to that “H”. Thanks so much!
This video was extremely helpful. I first ran a window AC 5000, 400 watt load with gen. Pulse. Tried lots of things. Then found it likes heavier loads runs smooth. I ran a 10,000 btu on this without any surge pulse but got way too cold in cabin so was overkill. The digital settings seemed to not fit well somehow with running on a gen. I put it back to the 5000 btu manual switch unit adjusted the choke switch as you showed. Running for hours now. Thanks.
Bought this same model brand new. Used it to power my RV at a campground. It was way noisier than similar inverters near me, and it started the surging and stalling out you are showing immediately. Had it 3 days and returned it. Getting a Champion instead.
Thanks for doing the deep dive and posting your findings, I've had the same surging issue with my brand new Ryobi 2300 Generator.
Yikes! Really? Mine is still in the box. Tips?
@@GR8GUY54 Mine seems to surge with around 300W load, perhaps it's stuck between eco mode and normal mode, and that back and forth switching is causing the surge? I have not checked the choke/run/stop knob for the same issue that remedied the generator in this video.
Yes turning the knob a little further smooths out the hunting, it adds more fuel. I was inspired to solve the issue after watching your video. On top of the carb is a brass screw head jet. Mine was blocked due to sitting without use for a long time. Now runs like new. Thanks for a great tear down video, helped immensely 😊
Only 12 hours on mine and it started doing this. Mine is only used for power emergencies though, so it's stored a lot with Stabil and about a half gallon of gas. In my case, it seems to run the smoothest with the choke closer between the O and the K and a load on it (the sticker is not algined straight...). Played with it between 750 and 1,500 watts using a space heater. Thank you for saving me from tearing into it. Not gonna bother tuning it up when i rarely use it.
I bought this same machine in the Virgin Islands during hurricane Irma and it was a life saver. It ran well and I ran it 8 hours a day which it would consume about a half gallon a day. I plugged two full size refrigerators, two fans and evening lights and topped off phones. The thing preformed like a champ and it was very quite. It cost a bit more then larger noisy gas guzzler generators but the value of quiet and massive fuel savings is priceless. While I would pick up 2 gallons of fuel every 4 days, my neighbors would be lugging 10 gallons of fuel for the same period of use. Tactically the Ryobi save your back and it more than paid for itself over the four months we were down with no electricity on the Island. Buying a new one too tuck away for the next big storm. A very good investment.
You just saved my life, been having this issue!! Thanks for taking the time
Thanks for the video on the surging issue. I have a 1yr old RYOBI EasyStart 6500 and although I reviewed multiple videos you have on this, along with a few other areas, it turned out to actually need a brand new carb. Fortuanately it was a warranty repair. Love the detail and explanation. The experience will definitely help me in the future to maintain this item!!
James I am a lot older than you. I go to school on your thinking. Thank you. For your informative videos. Good job guy. You look a lot like one of my children. The work you did on that miswired 10kw genset is a classic. When I am feeling top dog I watch that video again. You almost gave up but persisted. Excellent. Excellent. Makes me feel like that guy in Maine who got pulled over by the patrol. He is out of his mind yelling at the officer. Rips up the ticket and throws it out. Officer says pick it up or he will be hit for littering. The car is actually rocking side to side this guy is so out of control. Good vid. I go to school with good performance and bad. Thanks for your quality.
Thanks. That Generac 10000 EXL was one of my favorite saves.
This helped so much. I was having a problem with it stalling under a load. I've barely used it up till now. It turns out it was the fuel dial just as it was in your video. Thanks!
Thank you, so much for this video! You saved me a bunch of time and money. I to had the exact same issues. I would always notice at times when i would go to start it and turn the choke and then turn it right back up to closer to cold start and notice a pickup in consistency. I would have never thought it would he as easy as adjusting the Choke cable. Thank you!!
I just watched your wife's trouble shooting video where she's trying to figure out why her coffee tastes like gas.... great video, thanks for the tips.
Thanks for the tear down video. I just cleaned the jet located on top the carb, didn't replace the unit. Took about 30 minutes, she's running smoothly again
Yes, same problem. Touchy and many tools needed to disassemble and maintain the unit.
I had the same problem with mine. It would run fine under load, but it would surge big time when no load. I cleaned out the jets under the bowl but that didn't help. I took the carburetor loose and cleaned the idle jet on top. I don't know that any of the jets needed cleaning at all as they all seemed to be clear. I noticed that watching it while it ran and surged, the stepper motor on top was really working it over. I ordered a $13 stepper motor (was going through the process of elimination before getting a new carb). I replaced it and, by the Grace of God, it started working just fine. I haven't put a load on it as that was just 2 weekends ago. I start it up every few days to make sure and will put a load on it this weekend to make sure it can handle it. Thanks for the video.
Mark Moore let me know how you make out.
Same problem, work fine on choke. Did or this (4hrs) to fine out it was the cable and the label
Ryobi quality has gone to pot across the board on all their products in the last few years imho. Good video.
Thank you for this video! I got so fed up with mine unknowingly cutting out at trackdays leaving my tires cold and missing sessions that I bought a Honda this week. I've tried so many things to fix it but that bowl drain flow trick is the hidden gem. It took me 3 years to finally pull the trigger on the Honda so I'm not returning that haha, but I now have 2 working 2k gennys. There's worse problems to have I guess.
Thank you x 100!! You helped me finally solve my problem. I have a different but similar Ryobi Generator (RG3200i). It's been giving me the exact same hassles you had. It was even sent back to Ryobi under warranty but came back with the exact same problem. I decided to do what you did & check the fuel left in the carb after it surged & cut out. Lo & behold.... It was empty! It turned out to be a partially blocked fuel tap. Since purchase, this generator has never run so well. If it wasn't for your video, I probably would never have found the problem. Thank you again!!
I have this same generator. One thing I noticed was that after you started it each time, you immediately turned it from choke to run. The manual says to leave it on choke for 15-30 seconds. Perhaps if you left it on choke a bit longer, and maybe even tried under load with the choke on, you would have seen the problem go away and that would have given you a clue as to the problem. Granted, it's easy to say now that we know the problem lol. Thanks for the video.
I had to keep mine on Choke for it to run. Every time I tried to put it on run it died. Im going to mess with it in a few days and the first thing i'll do is take off the grey knob ( Im thinking its probably on a spline) and moving it to choke then checking that the choke is full closed and trying it. Jim is on the right track with the fuel flow. Not right that we should have to be messing around with something that should be proved out at the factory....foreign junk!
I have the previous model generator im the 2nd owner too, I use it 3-4 times a week and i let it run out of fuel most times without stopping it. i use power tools and run a campsite with it. It is so reliable, i had to replace the pull string 1 time in about 3 years of heavy use. Recently I was using it and noticed low power and surging it was strange, after checking everything it was the spark arrester on the exhaust was blocked with carbon. I removed it and it works fine now. I also melted a hole in the side housing case by accident and put a tiny hole in the petrol tank under the case with the exhaust of another generator, it was too close to the exhaust of the bigger generator and I didn't notice. (The bigger generator has remote start.) I used a plastic milk bottle lid and a heat gun blower to melt the plastic onto the hole of the petrol tank and that sealed it perfectly. These generators should last a very long time if it is properly maintained. they are a good choice low budget generator especially if you find a good used one.
I do like Ryobi, just was disappointed on this 3rd revision. It was almost perfect.
Wow! Thx.
I had that exact surging and shutting gen off issue. Until my friend Cao showed me this video.
Turning the big yellow knob to between the C - H (of word choke) at START freed up the gas flow & stopped the surging and dhutting off issue.
YAAAY Mr Condon!!👍
P.S. Running the gener as recommended on RUN would make the generator surge & eventually shut off.
So set start knob between the C-H of choke on start first.
Then... pull the cord. When it starts... wait at least 30 seconds.
Now plug in your extension cord into generator.
Voila. Again many thx for your detailed research.
Thanks. Glad it solved your problem.
Is a bad fuel selector. I fixed mine some time a go, here is the part number: 310437020. Also known as homelite parts.
So do I keep the knob between Cand H while it’s running? So knob all the way to choke to start and then drop between C&H while running it???
I had the same problem and it's fixed thank you! I also have the choke cable a small amount of slack. To keep the choke completely off.
Excellent work. Thanks for showing in detail how you troubleshoot the generator
Had same problem with my Ryobi 2000W Petrol Digital Inverter Generator (240v), I can't believe this was the problem. I'm so glad this came up when I searched my model and surging.
Many thanks for the time you spent on this, I was excited I just bought two of these to link and use separately. I feel like I should call Ryobi now and just send them in to fix before I even unbox them. I wonder how common this is... seems pretty common. Again many thanks for the time you spent on this!
It is a good generator (other then that easy start knob).
I’ve had mine for 2 years with no issue. I run it at 300-400 watts continuously for 4-6 hours to top off my boat batteries before a fishing trip. So far they’re great!
Open up the screw to your carburetor to get more fuel. I did it with mine and it helped.
Dude! Outstanding video. I have the same issue. I’ve seen in the comments below. I’m already excited to fix the issue tomorrow. Thanks again. 💪🏼
Thks 🙏just had same problem and mine is new! bought 3/17/20 it got to the point that it would even turn off from all the back and forth. Thank you your trick work but it's crazy that a generator close to $600 starts off with this problem. Thanks again good luck with your videos may you get a lot of views
Yes Sir The Genny is going back to the HomeDepot ....!!!!! Asap..!!!
Have had mine about a week and a half. My home depot is letting people return generators. Im pissed i don't wanna have to do anything or should have to do anything to this brand new fucking thing.
Some one deleted my comment so here we go again. I had all of the problems below so I went through all of the remedies that James offered. watched the video a few times. All of the suggestions helped a little bit at a time but the biggest improvement came from pulling the OEM fuel filter and replacing it with a piece of 1/4 inch copper tubing. No surging at idle or full speed. Load or no load. The big difference is now it won't run the micro wave, the lights and the refrigerator at the same time. It use too.
Any suggestions for a new fuel filter? I don't want too run it with out one for very long.
Thanks to all and specially to James Condon for making this video and giving advice and suggestions.
Charlie Spikes do you have this model the RYI2300 with Bluetooth or the previous model RYI2200?
@@jcondon1 Thanks for the quick reply. This one was made in 2017. Bought at Cabela's in Feb. 2018. It's the RYI2300 with Blue Tooth.
Got mine 2nd hand too. Had the same issues. Found your video and viola' issue gone. Thank you so much :)
You're welcome!
Great vid!!! Mine had the same issue. All the detailed work you did and troubleshooting was fantastic. Apparently it's a misaligned sticker.
Mine runs great now.
I have the same generator / inverter and I have been having the same issues with mine. Thanks for the video, it solved the issues with mine.
I have 2 of these generators, 1 of them works just like yours and you need to set it to the "O" in choke to prevent it from surging. The other one, works flawlessly. Do not know why but I do not ask. Thanks for a great video.
Excellent video. It described, exactly, the problem I have on two of these generators. The fuel on/off valve is out of alignment with the rest of the functions on the control knob, like the choke, and the electrical cut off switch, and there is no way to adjust it. The fuel valve does not open fully, until the knob is half way to the fully choked position. This is a sad reflection on the build quality, and very disappointing, considering the current price, at HomeDepot, is almost $900. A real shame, because the generator is, otherwise, rather nice.
As explained in the video, you could adjust the choke cable, so that it doesn't choke the engine, when the control knob is in the half choke position, allowing full fuel flow. This may be OK, but the misalignment is still present.
Purchasing a new control assembly, and hoping that it doesn't have the same problem, is another route.
Or, if you think it is worth the effort, and are willing to do some drilling and filing, it is possible to reposition the fuel valve.
The control knob, and the small cover, behind it, can be removed. Then the mechanical control assembly can be removed, and disconnected. The fuel valve, at the back of the assembly, is held in position by a screw, which can be repositioned, thereby rotating the valve, relative to the knob, and the other functions. It is also necessary to file away some material, from another part of the assembly, to make space for the repositioned fuel valve.
A lot of work? Maybe.
Wow sir this is such a great video, perfect cam angle, impeccable lighting and extremely informative as you break things down for us explaining step by step, eliminating culprit possibilities by narrowing your way down to the solution 👏 thank you!
To simplify things, save up and spend the extra money on the Honda or as a second option, the Yamaha. This unit was a nightmare for us. It spent over a month in and out of the service center with this issue. They could never fix it and refunded my money which I put toward the Honda EU2200i. Lesson learned.
Same problem, I purchased it the past year
When a generator is not used for weeks or months, the gasoline residues fall to the bottom and at the time of putting it to work, these concentrated residues many of them pass the gasoline filter and remain stagnant in the carburetor plugging the system and the tiny holes that a carb of that size has. Before starting the generator that has not been started for weeks, I advise you to drain a little of the gasoline so that this sediment does not enter the carburetor. If you already have the problem mentioned in the video, you should remove the carburetor and remove the gold parts and clean them with carburetor cleaner. In the case of the Rioby Yo, remove the cardboard gasket and clean it through all the holes with the product. In particular, you must clean the air and gasoline inlets which are what you will see as two small holes at the ends of the central hole, these are part of the housing and are not gold pieces.
Mine is doing the exact same thing into the shop twice they did nothing but I paid I'm going to try what you did thanks had it almost a year it have never used it
thank you for info, yes, my Ryobi is doing same problem.
my first round up with this Genset I realize the imprecision of these controls. Specific to the cheap, spastic, ad hoc cable system to the control knob.
Fortunately for me I'm lazy. I ain't looking to replace carbs and filters but after an oil change I noticed it was more difficult to start and ran rougher.
I started fiddling about with the "choke cable" which as you know is the choke, start, run, stop cable.
I pulled a bit there and found that the set screw "nut" was not secure. Which insisted to me that with every successive, start, run, stop cycle, the Genset would become further and farther out of adjustment. Having worked in Shimano shifters and caliper brakes since a kid I intuited the imprecision of these ancient mechanical setups was likely my problem adjusted. Crimped it down hard.
Been fine ever sense.
Appreciate your efforts. And fully understand...All the tech in the world cannot overcome a piece of wire fallen into improper adjustment.
A sign of the times.
I have a similar issue with mine. I will definitely be checking the knob calibration.
I have a craftsman 2500i and it does the same thing. I checked the carb it was clean I still cleaned it anyway but it would still surge. I started spraying carb cleaner around the carb looking for vacuum leaks (only do this on a cold engine) and I found one it was the throttle shaft sucking air damn thing is almost brand new
Good fix!.. Not sorry that i walked right on past it due to the price though... Im sure its good for some situations but i went with the Champion 4375 dual fuel... Loving it so far! Smaller gas tank then id like and super touchy on the choke at startup.. (Just crank until it pops over then go full open choke to run on gas, and NO choke on propane, seems to work EXCELLENT.. Even at 7°f
I got my Ryobi 2300 watt dirt cheap because of this very fact that it was doing the same thing clean the carburetor extremely well replace the spark plug and that fixed it have well over 3,000 hours on mine so far
Way to go James! I wish you showed us where the fuel filter is. Great video.
Nice video. I have one and you've given me a pretty good tour of my unit under the hood. Having no issues with mine though but time does take it's toll.
Actually it is a common problem, I have seen those in camping sites surging just like yours was doing, now I know what to tell them.
Hi, I admire your attention to detail, quality of workmanship and your trouble shooting methodology . I have a feeling that you do this as a hobby and not for living, am I correct? Do not get me wrong, I never would have thought in my life to buy a repaired equipment, but your repaire method have changed my thoughts.
The new carb you order is an older version of the one you replaced, u can easily identify it by the float bowl which is made of brighter aluminum material, the one with the alloy bowl is a troblesome counterpart, so ryobi start using again the revised old desing, you must check for fuel flow trough the fuel line hose in the running position as it flow a lot in choke position but tends to cut flow to no flow on running position. Older valves can be disassemble but not the one you have, eaven new valve/ on off switch were problematic, 70% of this gens that I fix, has the fuel flow valve problem.
Thank you for the vid! I had the Exact same issue.. turning it up a bit between the C and the H makes it the surging stop and run smooth! Thank you!
Glad it helped
Manufactures should send prototypes of products like this to people like you who know and understand how equipment should work. You can be sure some over qualified engineers design this and sent to that factory without any practical testing.
They do test them practically in a lab but the engineers do not get the final say on what gets put into production. Its always the money men. Some of those money men understand engineering but many of then do not. I recall working in an electronics production company as a young man. I was a test engineer tasked with developing test hardware and systems. I hated the fact that I would take an early prototype of some hardware that I had designed and built to a meeting. Or if it was too big we would have the meeting around the rig. I would demonstrate where I had got to and tell them what we needed to do to finish it. More than once they took it off me there and then saying it does what we want now. I would tear my hair out by the roots in frustration. Its one of the reasons I left manufacturing and took posts in education and research.
Made in Viet Nam bud!
I am always rooting for you. I have the Honda eu2200i and many owners of these are not aware at the bottom of the fuel tank on the fuel hose their is an inline finger filter that can be cleaned or replaced. After all the fixes you tried I was sure it was the fuel filter. It never dawned on me that is was improper knob indexing. Always use non-ethanol gasoline and I always add about a quarter ounce of carburetor cleaner with every tank. Watching your video got me worried as I stored my generator indoors with stabil and carburetor cleaner, but with the carburetor bowl empty. I siphoned the fuel out today after eight months of storage and the fuel visually looked and smelled great and the generator started after about fifteen pulls. Saving a little bit of money on gasoline is not worth clogging your carburetor. I was wondering if someday you would do a sine wave test on the generators you repair. I noticed on some other generators when the surge wattage was approached the wave would start distorting. Best of luck and great videos. ruclips.net/video/L6pYh6d6Yrs/видео.html
Brad Davies I have been wanting to purchase an oscilloscope for a long time. To worried about buying the wrong one and as a result do not own any. Unless you count the Tektronix I have from the 70s. Afraid to plug that one in.
@@jcondon1 Thanks.
@@jcondon1 I'm using a KKmoon KKM781 for this purpose, you can find it on Aliexpress for around $85. It's handheld, battery-powered, the screen is not big but it does the job. Putting a bulky, mains powered and expensive Tektronix scope which I also have outside for generator testing seems not a good idea to me.
Dude you rock man ..thumbs up. You fix mine i was going to return after plug in a drill it will shut down.. Now it the choke... thanks bro HUGGs
I enjoy watching your videos as you are very thorough. IMO there's nothing more reliable out there than a good old Honda. Sure the newer generators have more gadgets, but Honda is just simple and reliable. I've owned them all over the years, I used to buy, repair and flip inverter generators. The only generators I've kept for myself is a Honda EU-2000i and a Multiquip GA-6HA 6000 watt with a Honda Engine. They both always start and run smoothly.
I have a honda eu-2000i,and every time I go to use it.I have to take the carb apart and clean it.Plus the plastic low speed jet gets clogged,and you have to run a wire through it to clean it.If I dont do this it will surge, at high, and low speed.The chinese generators seem to hold up better with their carburators.
@@GoldSeals You can't store any of them with fuel in them unless it's ethanol free fuel. Even then you should start it once a month if you leave fuel in it. There's no difference in carburetors, they will all become clogged eventually if fuel isn't ran dry
@@vegasfordguy i use stabil storage.One ounce for every 2 1/2 gallons.The fuel looks good after several months.I use it in my car.I store all my fuel in metal safety cans.Except whats in the generator.And yes its has ethenol in it.The Wen 2000 watt invertor generator I have always starts.Ive never had to rebuild the carburator.Right now the wens gas tank leaks.I had to order a new tank.It was only $26 for the new tank.Once I get it installed.I wont be using my honda eu-2000 as my primary generator,only as a backup.
@@GoldSeals Check out Tarryl fixes all RUclips channel. He tested all the fuel stabilizers over a couple years. None worked any better vs regular 87 octane fuel. They all gummed up due to the ethanol. The only fuel that started after all that time was VP ethanol free fuel. Basically all the fuel stabilizers are snake oil.
@@vegasfordguy Thanks.Yes,I did see that.Tarryl.He has 5k generator with no gas or oil in it.They asked him why no oil,or gas?He said it aint gonna run when I go to use it if I fill it up.
Glad I found your video. Mine does the same thing. Thank you.
I can see the sticker is misaligned with the knob pointer. Wowzers, is that all it was? Amazing, thanks!
You bet!
Same problem, doesn't run without surging heavily in run position and gas trickles out when loosening screw for fuel drain. Turn to choke get full flow of fuel out the line. Bypassed fuel selector and went direct to carb from tank. Same surging. Ordering stepper motor to check that.
I really enjoy watching your videos thank you for all great tips
To save people 30 mins check and adjust the choke. Too much chock cuts the fuel off completely
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I just fast fwd to the end haha
Yes We Have One and the Poor Starting and Surging Were as You Describe .. Identical Problem .. Thank You Great Video !!
Got same problem with my genera...will try what you did to fix it sure it the same thank you for the information and I'm sure it will work also got new carburetor and didn't help but I will see if I can do the same thing as you to fix it and let you know how it goes bye for now thank you again
Your video was extremely useful to me, thanks so much for sharing your experience.
what a great video !! i found that the fuel supply is not well as you show in the video , i just did a bypass so NO valve anymore and so gas is going straight to the carb! easy !!
I've had the same problem, but on a generic generator that used the same easy start function as this one, and the problem I found, was that the know was loose, so I took it off and put the stem on choke, and screwd the know back on with red locktite, and that fixed the problem.. it didn't open fully, but been working ever since..
I purchased this generator new and it’s always had the surging problem, other then that it works great.
Forgot to add opened up the front panel to check the circuit breaker one time looked over at the LCD display. there are four screws that hold the LCD display on three of them we're out one being broken all by itself. Add a light thread lock to every screw
I just purchased one of these. Exact same issue. Thanks!
I drilled a hole in the top of the plastic and used a plumbing stem wrench like you did., I will get a rubber plug to seal the 2 inch hole I drilled.
Friends. Changing carb is an easy button but I just watched another video that fixed same problem by cleaning a tiny jet/orifice that most miss. It unscrews from top of carb through the hole in the top plastic.
Its basically in the back side of the carb looking at it when it is mounted and it faces straight up.
Once removed, the hole to clean is tiny one on it's bottom. Need a tiny wire from stainless steel brush for example.
Here is the link:
ruclips.net/video/yY-GMFDY9LY/видео.html
I've had that issue with a predator, the rubber disk in the fuel shutoff on the carb. It seems that our crappy fuel causes it to swell, so when you turn the fiel on the rubber dragged/distorts and the holes don't line up. I sanded the parts down with 600 grit and so far so good.