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3 tricks for the best looking dormers. Scale and proportion are key!
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- Опубликовано: 13 апр 2021
- Dormers are tricky! Getting them to look right is hard. If your dormers are clunky, too big, or misshaped? Learn the historic framing trick used in the past to properly scale dormers on a home. In order to build good-looking dormers, there are 3 techniques you need to practice. This video will help you learn more.
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My wife used to work at Colonial Williamsburg and she lived in the building Brent shows as an example. We still love visiting CW and as a trim carpenter its even more exciting to see. Thanks Brent! Love the collab with Richard at Finish Carpentry TV as well 👍👍
Thanks for sharing! I love CW!! We asked them to let us shoot some teaching videos but they shot us down. Maybe you can pull some strings. 😀
Thank you for another home run video.
The trick about framing the dormers with the studs short ways is pure gold! Thank you for the information!
Thanks so much.
Thank you for this insight! We're looking at purchasing 90+ years old home and i kept thinking something looked funny with the dormer and lower side windows, besides the dormer being dog-eared. Now I know... The windows aren't proportioned properly. Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
This video offers much needed information. It's a horrible thing that people are being so completely desensitized to all the wrong things being done; I feel like it's a run-away train...I love your handsome little assistant!
I agree and thanks! He's the best.
Great info. Thanks!
Thx for watching.
I appreciate the talk of scale and proportion. Balance and symmetry are great. But at 8:27 how are you going to get the R value they want? Spray foam needs 3-1/2 inches to get R-21. Also, most building inspectors want to see clunky framing with way too many hangers before they will sign off.
This is a form vs function comment. I vote for form and would argue there are many ways to insulate that get you close, especially as many attics aren't even used. Thx.
New subscriber! I’m a big fan of your advocacy for traditional building techniques. It’s so confusing to me that as building technology has advanced over the last century, the quality of the houses we build has depreciated, both structurally and aesthetically. Here in the South, there are beautiful examples of the architectural principles you champion in your videos.
I could watch your videos for hours, my friend!
Thanks so much. I appreciate you subscribing. More to come.
Thank you so much for your efforts to improve builders' design education. I live in Washington DC in a historic neighborhood that isn't a historic district, and ever day I see more an more of the kinds of things you're talking about. What can only be called beach shacks stacked on top of early 1900 row houses, front mansards pulled off and a floor added with nothing to finish off the top of the building, cap cods weighted down under oversized dormers, beautiful regency and colonial houses built in the 30s with 6 over 6 sashes being replaced with single pane . I've gotten to the point that the only way I can stay happy driving through the city is with my visers down so I can't see anything more than 6 ft above ground level. It's such a shame because the residential neighborhoods of this city were beautiful when they were build between 1890 and the 1940s.
These things could be done better. It is possible to use good design and convert row houses into 2 condos or to enlarge a center hall colonial or cape cod. Having done a lot of work on historic buildings myself, I'm not even convinced that it's really more expensive to use good design. It does take a willingness to do it and development of an understanding of good design principals. So THANK YOU!!!!
I agree!! Thanks for your thoughts.
Interesting suggestion about framing of the dormer with the 2x4 on it's side...BUT would that meet most building codes?
I won't speak for all building codes, but it works in Fort Worth. There's no change to structural strength by turning it on the side. Just maybe amount of insulation... Let me know your thoughts. B
Out here in Virginia, it's been saving me space even for plumbing and electrical
@@BrentHull 9R w/ 4# spray foam (1-1/2"). Keeping dormer small helps. It's a challenge...
@@BrentHull Insulation is the main downside to me.
Is this a doublehung window? If so where do the weights go?
Great lesson! Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for the video. It would be nice to see some examples with shed dormers. I think the type and size of dormer also determines the scale and shape of the window.
Agreed. Thanks.
I was looking for shed dormer advice but as a builder I really really enjoyed this video. I could have watched an hour on just dormers and their history and building techniques. Not that you would but you could do videos on each separate part of a dormer from size to trim to roof to windows etc. thank you
Good idea. There is definitely more to discuss here. Thanks.
It needed to be said! Unfortunately it will fall on deaf ears.
Not all ears are deaf. Thanks for watching.
Interesting. I have restored many dormers on houses 20 years old to 120 years old and never really saw this until now.
Cool. I'm glad you found it.
I love your content and everything that you do but to be fair there is no good way to get Code compliant Insulation in a wall framed on edge,
I know historically they were meant to bring light into unconditioned attic spaces. But more and more as a residential framer I am seeing these light spaces brought into conditioned spaces. I think a good resolution is to increase the size of the dormer in order to achieve the glass to face surface area. As long as increasing the size does not throw off the balance of symmetry bellow
I agree it is a careful balance. If you recognize the issues that make dormers ugly, you can find the balance more easily. Thanks for sharing.
What's up with masonry on dormers? Every time I see it my mind screams: “fake” ,stuck on thin veneer brick or stone. A wood frame house could never support a masonary dormer.
AMEN!! Signs ignorance and hubris. It happens when people haven't studied the past to see the proper way to build. Thanks for watching and commenting.
if you put the stud on its side , how do we insulate the wall , for those places where winter is a freezing season .You need the 3-1/2 '' to allow room for a good insulation an save on the energy bill
Form vs function. I choose form because you aren't gaining enough function in this small area.
What about insulation
You can still insulate.
Great content! What are your thoughts on adding dormers to an historical home (perhaps a “federal” farmhouse)?
Its tricky. Success will be in your execution. How well you follow historic precedent. Meaning, how well it blends in with the style to make sure it doesn't look out of place. Good luck.
Brent , I have seen doghouse dormers on roofs that I think the main roof pitch is not Steep enough , the checks walls look to long , your opinion on that , thanks
Unfortunately, most new dormers are not right. The proportions are all messed up. Thanks!
I would assume setting the studs on their side instead of their face would not change their strength for load bearing and the top plate set on its side would increase load bearing strength.
Correct! THanks.
This is music to my ears! I've learned many of these lessons through a great little book called 'Get Your House Right' if anyone is interested!
Agreed. Great book.
I get the feeling that people, back in the day, for all that they DIDNT do right, especially when it can to human subjugation, 👀, tended to have a more holistic and integrated approach to arts and sciences. Concepts like proportion and endurance were considered as values. Today, it's commodification and obsolescence; "make it JUST good enough." And we live with the results every day.
Agreed! thanks for sharing.
We are soulmates brother. How much of these errors are due to builders trying to cut costs on materials?
Amen. I think a lot.
Good luck getting the dormers you call appropriate to meet energy codes. No one wants to pay more then they need on energy bills. Historically they heated homes with wood or coal and had shorter life spans due to poor air quality. Don’t suppose he wants you to go back to the days of respiratory illness also.
ok.
That dormer with the eyebrows really did the injustice for the concept... Dormers should be an accent of the house not the main subject of conversation
Agreed. Thanks.
Aren’t those Dutch returns? (An electrician, not a carpenter)
Annoying "right".
Yep.
I disagree
Ok. Thx.
I’m sweating right about now. Wondering if the two dormers on my new construction plans are proportional to the home. 😳🫣🙏🏾
Haha, oh boy.