i remember when this happened and as a pearl fan my reaction was "finally they buffed marina" (i had trouble liking marie in the 1st game because she could be so mean to callie sometimes and i hadnt wanted that to happen again😭i love all the idols now tho)
Maybe the theory of “Savage Marina” was that it was pushed by the head honchos in charge of Inkopolis News, thinking that snark sells. But turns out as the game progressed, they got to know Marina a little better behind the scenes, hence the on-screen personality adjustments. So it’s possibly she just needed the OK to peek out of the proverbial shell.
Funny enough, I actually read about this in passing after my late intro thru S2. I don't mind Marina snarking at Pearl, but it needs to fit or it doesn't seem right. Also, Marina is a fan of the Squid Sisters, so there is the thought that she was trying to mimic Marie a bit.
I wouldn't say that's really censorship.. maybe a mistake in the characterization of a character on release. But it's pretty funny ngl. Savage Marina was great, and i like that she would occasionally still get some spicy quips in, later on in splatfests and the news from time to time.
its technically a censorship but not in the traditional way of what people consider one. They censored her old personality but completely removing/altering it but yeah im glad they retained some later on but I wanna see how much more of a savage Marina could be
Do you know that marina is actually supposed to have a crush on pearl? The Japanese version of the Splatoon base website describes her as a "maiden in love" towards pearl, but this was changed in the English version
Yeah I remember that update. I really did see it as kind of an issue though. With Callie and Marie. The rivalry was so entertaining to read. And they really went ALL the way with it. Nintendo started getting complaints from parents about Callie and Marie’s rudeness so for off the hook they designed characters to be nicer Even in the splatoon 2 American version. The rudeness felt very “half assed” compared to Marie. Even then it just made Pearl and Marina watered down personality’s of the squid sisters, with less interesting burns. The nice nature between them works a whole lot better not only for the story. But for reading the stage intro. However I will always forever prefer the squid sisters show. Very entertaining.
I'd figure it was Marina, she shows a little... too much skin in all her outfits we've seen her. She's so mean to Pearl, she one time told Pearl "Aren't you a rapper, how do you not know this?"
Yes! We need her to just throw shades at Pearl in Side Order the whole time or else we're going to raid the Nintendo HQ (We sadly can't actually do that 😔)
I told people about this, but they never believed me to the point where I started to think maybe I made it up. Glad to see I wasn't just misremembering thing after all. Also, #bringbacksavagemarina
Savage marina dialogues are still in the French version This time, off the hook ROAST EATCHOTHER 24/24 EVEN IN OCTO EXPANSION, they're showed to be good friends but still say mean things Ah, those Nintendo france translation..
@@ShurikanBlade I wasn't a Splatoon player back when Marina was mean (I actually didn't know about it, I got Splatoon 2 a few months after the Final Fest, I got it in early 2020 because I had played as Inkling in Smash once and I recognized the Inklings on the cover of the game and so I decided to buy Splatoon 2 instead of ACNH)
I always got a “you’re so stupid Pearlie and that’s why I love you” vibe from ‘rina. Can’t wait for one of them to propose to the other in side order #lesbian #pearlina
I used my phones translator on the official lyrics of one of their songs in the Splatune 3 album booklet. I don't buy what you're saying, one of the titles auto translated to "Busy Vacation feat. TENTACLES." Like, I'm not even kidding it even had it in all caps. 😂
Same thing with Mr.Grizz in splatoon 2. In the original japanese version,Mr.Grizz was this polite character,but in the english localization,he's practically pissed off all the time. In splatoon 3,they did change him closer to his original Japanese version,still retaining traits from his localization. (I'm talking about AT Grizzco,not in the Story Mode.)
I remember this, I did not care about the duologue however it was fun to read online. I would not be surprised if that is just her onstage personality and what we see her now is her actual personality / off stage personality. Pearl is Pearl on both off stage and on stage.
Technically it's a censorship because they removed/altered all traces of this but it's not what people would consider one in a traditional sense I suppose
I thought you would say that Marina ida is oh lala spicy,and stuff, you know what I mean, but I never thought that they censorship her personality, and it was surprising to me to know that.
its why nobody knows about it cuz only people who played the first month in the English versions would know. Its a genuine secret censorship and i find it so fascinating
@@ShurikanBlade oh, so I was just overthinking it.. idk how I even did that Edit: I rewatched it.. I was in my own world lol I didn’t remember much of the vid I think I was trying to think what it could be.
i think i played splatoon 2 right when it came out . im suprised i didnt catch this change over time. but i was a filthy casual lol (never even completed story mode).
I feel like she still has some shades of savagery here and there. According to TV Tropes/English Version of Octo Expansion, she used to act like this because she felt she had to to be more interesting to fans. She (Nintendo) toned this down later on, though.
Well tEcHnIcAlLy it's a censorship because they removed/altered this aspect about jer entirely but also it wasn't supposed to be there in the first place. So technically it is but technically it isnt
I did know about her savage lines, but as a Marina simp i prefer soft Marina more mainly because otherwise she would have been too similair to Marie. We can only have one sassy idol
(Semi off topic) That's most likely why quite a few fans think she's in love with Pearl. The only place thats the case is the manga, (and there's a million and one things in the manga that contradicts the game's logic). She seems to act very friendly the few times she interacts with other characters and likely would treat them the same if she got to no them (like agent 8 for an example). Overall it most likely was done so she's less of a Marie clone Edit: nevermind, the manga's not by nintendo
hello i am one of the last remnant of the original Pearl fanbase,, back at a time i couldnt play the game but watched video and video of it and was totally obsessed with Pearl ! i never understand the hate and she had always been the best girl
she kinda was from what i heard in the japanese very its simply hinted at often Marina likes pearl but its never established but this was lessened in all other versions
For some reason i thought this was gonna talk about that cursed marina hello kitty plush- But ANYWAY nintendo is obviously trying to censor Marina’s obvious crush on pearl since it’s not a headcannon and cannon in japan, but you can’t get away with animation censorship because Marina gives Pearl a love tackle in the final scene of Octo Expansion no matter what!!! MWAAHAHAHA TAKE THAT NINTENDO sorry i am way too passionate about this
@@ShurikanBlade basically in japan they made these off the hook plushes for the hello kitty splatfest. They, uh… let’s just say they “changed marina’s skin tone a little.” I’ll let you look that one up.
@@wintercj idk I guess the writers thought it was funny but then the English Localizers did the same thing with Marina even tho she doesn't act like that at all in any other version
Savage Marina was fun tbh, as a Pearl fan, it did hurt to see her insult and be kinda mean to Pearl sometimes because they're supposed to be✨girlfriends(I AM A PEARLINA STAN) that care about eachother very much✨ Though, What made me hate Marie was her mean dialogues and i really wouldn't want to hate Marina for that too, she's such a sweet heart but if they made her unnecessarily mean like Marie then,,,, idk
first!
The meme i made for this video wasnt even ussd in the video smh
What was is
@@ImTheRealFlash the Despacito meme
@@ShurikanBlade o :sadge:
To be fair, Marina does feel like the kind of person to be all sweet and polite all the time, and then to commit the most savage verbal murder
Maybe it was a facade the whole time
I haven't heard many people bring this up, I'm glad someone is saying something since it's a pretty neat and weird bit of splatoon history
Yeah its honestly really interesting how almost nobody knows
i remember when this happened and as a pearl fan my reaction was "finally they buffed marina" (i had trouble liking marie in the 1st game because she could be so mean to callie sometimes and i hadnt wanted that to happen again😭i love all the idols now tho)
Marie was mean but like in a funny way but like Marinas old personally was ruthless at times
At least they didn't go the Sailor Moon route and make them cousins
😟😟😟
Maybe the theory of “Savage Marina” was that it was pushed by the head honchos in charge of Inkopolis News, thinking that snark sells. But turns out as the game progressed, they got to know Marina a little better behind the scenes, hence the on-screen personality adjustments. So it’s possibly she just needed the OK to peek out of the proverbial shell.
Maybe it was becaude that's how Octolings acted and so Marina wasn't used to inklings being so nice 🤔
Funny enough, I actually read about this in passing after my late intro thru S2. I don't mind Marina snarking at Pearl, but it needs to fit or it doesn't seem right. Also, Marina is a fan of the Squid Sisters, so there is the thought that she was trying to mimic Marie a bit.
Oh yeah that would be cool if she was just trying to mimic Marie
that's a nice headcanon! thanks for sharin :)
I would really like to see some bit of savage Marinas personality coming back even if it's just for one scene in side order
Side Order begins:
*screen goes black
"Looks like a corporate shill bought the Splatoon dlc"
“Looks up to Pearl”
I doubt that 😏
😟😟😳
I wouldn't say that's really censorship.. maybe a mistake in the characterization of a character on release. But it's pretty funny ngl. Savage Marina was great, and i like that she would occasionally still get some spicy quips in, later on in splatfests and the news from time to time.
its technically a censorship but not in the traditional way of what people consider one. They censored her old personality but completely removing/altering it but yeah im glad they retained some later on but I wanna see how much more of a savage Marina could be
@@ShurikanBlade They knew we couldn't handle her 😔
Do you know that marina is actually supposed to have a crush on pearl? The Japanese version of the Splatoon base website describes her as a "maiden in love" towards pearl, but this was changed in the English version
Silly English localizers and actually having legal gay marriage unlike Japan and yet Japan doesn't censor this 🤔🤔
@@ShurikanBlade Nintendo of America has censored LGBTQ characters in the past. A big example is Vivian from paper mario
@@magpierrot well that was like in 2000 so for the time it kinda made sense cuz it was still illegal. Still suck tho
also that coroika issue that was technically drawn by her. but there's a debate whether that's canon or not
I’ve heard it was just a translation error.
I figured she was teasing and that pearl found it funny
nah she was straight roastin
Yeah I remember that update.
I really did see it as kind of an issue though. With Callie and Marie. The rivalry was so entertaining to read. And they really went ALL the way with it.
Nintendo started getting complaints from parents about Callie and Marie’s rudeness so for off the hook they designed characters to be nicer
Even in the splatoon 2 American version. The rudeness felt very “half assed” compared to Marie.
Even then it just made Pearl and Marina watered down personality’s of the squid sisters, with less interesting burns.
The nice nature between them works a whole lot better not only for the story. But for reading the stage intro.
However I will always forever prefer the squid sisters show. Very entertaining.
I agree Callie and Marie's was entertaining but Marinas insults most of the time felt put of no where especially like the "corporate shill" line
I'd figure it was Marina, she shows a little... too much skin in all her outfits we've seen her. She's so mean to Pearl, she one time told Pearl "Aren't you a rapper, how do you not know this?"
She throws mad Shade at Pearl sometimes and honestly I love it
@@ShurikanBlade same, we need that back #bringbacksavagemarina 😔
@@TON1K3NSA we will fight in the name of #BringBackSavageMarina
Yes! We need her to just throw shades at Pearl in Side Order the whole time or else we're going to raid the Nintendo HQ (We sadly can't actually do that 😔)
@@TON1K3NSA nah I know how to raid Nintendo HQ
2:23 SILENCE THE NON-PEARLIVER
THE MEDIA CANT STOP ME
I told people about this, but they never believed me to the point where I started to think maybe I made it up. Glad to see I wasn't just misremembering thing after all. Also, #bringbacksavagemarina
Savage Marina only existed for a month sadly but yeah #BringBackSavageMarina
I had no idea this existed, lol. Bring this back
@@BlackHoleQueen hopefully they bring it back in side order
@@ShurikanBlade hopefully..
Nah, Marina is better if she’s not that savage. She would just be another Marie.
whole marina vibe in the EN version is an censorship to me tbh
They really be changing her character a lot in the English version it's weird
Savage marina dialogues are still in the French version
This time, off the hook ROAST EATCHOTHER 24/24
EVEN IN OCTO EXPANSION, they're showed to be good friends but still say mean things
Ah, those Nintendo france translation..
this sounds super hilarious! I tried to see if it was in other version but all notes i could find online never went into detail
Ah, yes.
"Patched Marina's attitude"
it truly was the censorship nobody kew
@@ShurikanBlade I wasn't a Splatoon player back when Marina was mean (I actually didn't know about it, I got Splatoon 2 a few months after the Final Fest, I got it in early 2020 because I had played as Inkling in Smash once and I recognized the Inklings on the cover of the game and so I decided to buy Splatoon 2 instead of ACNH)
Really? This is very interesting. Nice job with this Shuriken. I never knew Marina was censored
Thank you :) I'm glad you enjoyed it
I always got a “you’re so stupid Pearlie and that’s why I love you” vibe from ‘rina. Can’t wait for one of them to propose to the other in side order #lesbian #pearlina
I read the plot of Side Order cuz I work at nintendo and they broke up and the whole side Order is their break up story :(
I used my phones translator on the official lyrics of one of their songs in the Splatune 3 album booklet. I don't buy what you're saying, one of the titles auto translated to "Busy Vacation feat. TENTACLES." Like, I'm not even kidding it even had it in all caps. 😂
@@ShurikanBlade is that true?
( is that a spoiled for dlc )
@@leochaichana7649 no.
@@ShurikanBlade okay... I am out, see ya
I thought I saw the dialogue was different one day and I wasn’t just seeing things differently.
Yeah when I was playing I was like "something is off" and then years later I found out and then even more years later I made this vid
Savage Marina best Marina the internet shall not silence us
WE MUST #BRINGBACKSAVAGEMARINA
Same thing with Mr.Grizz in splatoon 2. In the original japanese version,Mr.Grizz was this polite character,but in the english localization,he's practically pissed off all the time. In splatoon 3,they did change him closer to his original Japanese version,still retaining traits from his localization. (I'm talking about AT Grizzco,not in the Story Mode.)
Woah thays actually super cool and I never knew that. I'm gonna look into that cuz it also sounds fascinating
“WHO is Marina?”
Bro tryna gaslight me 💀💀💀
But who is she 🤨🤨
@@ShurikanBlade 🤡🤡🤡
They could bring her back in splat 3 if we see the splat 2 idols in the side order dlc.
Hopefully they do cuz that would be super funny
I remember this, I did not care about the duologue however it was fun to read online. I would not be surprised if that is just her onstage personality and what we see her now is her actual personality / off stage personality. Pearl is Pearl on both off stage and on stage.
I didnt really care for it either but I just thing its a fascinating thing to know that they altered her character and then changed it back
spLat tiM.
He doeS iT!
Wait until you hear about “fuckin dudes be fuckin sleepin”
i cant hear
I wouldn’t really call it a censorship not sure why they did this though
Technically it's a censorship because they removed/altered all traces of this but it's not what people would consider one in a traditional sense I suppose
I thought you would say that Marina ida is oh lala spicy,and stuff, you know what I mean, but I never thought that they censorship her personality, and it was surprising to me to know that.
its why nobody knows about it cuz only people who played the first month in the English versions would know. Its a genuine secret censorship and i find it so fascinating
@@ShurikanBlade yeah, it's surprising to me.
Wow, I never knew that before lol! Good video!!
Now I know you weren't a Day 1er 😔
But thank you :)
@@ShurikanBlade I didn't have Splatoon till 2018
@@SplatDroid smh my head
Oh that makes sense nvm wait no it doesn’t (my brain hurts today)
tl:dr Marina used to be a savage and they took that away and made her like her regular self. Its a different kind of censorship
@@ShurikanBlade oh, so I was just overthinking it.. idk how I even did that
Edit: I rewatched it.. I was in my own world lol I didn’t remember much of the vid I think I was trying to think what it could be.
@@NotThatAxl it's okay kinds funny tho
marina got that black air force energy. bring back savage marina
Nintendo yoinked her air force ones bruh
i think i played splatoon 2 right when it came out . im suprised i didnt catch this change over time. but i was a filthy casual lol (never even completed story mode).
story mode in 2 was aight so its understandable
I feel like she still has some shades of savagery here and there. According to TV Tropes/English Version of Octo Expansion, she used to act like this because she felt she had to to be more interesting to fans. She (Nintendo) toned this down later on, though.
oh thats interesting
Gamers will look at a retcon and call it censorship
Well tEcHnIcAlLy it's a censorship because they removed/altered this aspect about jer entirely but also it wasn't supposed to be there in the first place. So technically it is but technically it isnt
@@ShurikanBlade it's not censorship, it's removal. But we'll eternally argue semantics. Agree to disagree?
they should unironically bring back Savage Marina. Pearl fucking sucks man
The English Localizers were onto something with the Pearl slander
Didya know? Pearl was supposed to F*CKING SWEAR in the octo expansion dialogue
Source: trust me bro
I trust you 😌
I wouldn’t consider this censorship I would consider it fixing an oopsie
By definition they technically censored her old EN personality but it's not what people think when you say the word "censor"
marina is a GAY OCTOPUS and she's IN LOVE WITH PEARL
marina is uh uhm uh uhm who?
I did know about her savage lines, but as a Marina simp i prefer soft Marina more mainly because otherwise she would have been too similair to Marie. We can only have one sassy idol
But what if im a Marina simp who wants a sassy gal
@@ShurikanBlade
Then I have a worthy compromise: soft sassiness. That's a fair deal
@@Redder_Creeps fair indeed
(Semi off topic) That's most likely why quite a few fans think she's in love with Pearl. The only place thats the case is the manga, (and there's a million and one things in the manga that contradicts the game's logic). She seems to act very friendly the few times she interacts with other characters and likely would treat them the same if she got to no them (like agent 8 for an example). Overall it most likely was done so she's less of a Marie clone
Edit: nevermind, the manga's not by nintendo
I think in the origjnal Japanese stuff there are some hints that she may like Pearl but never is anything outright stated that she does.
The manga isnt made by Nintendo, and its not canon
*yet still, she shins agan*
Ayo! I missed out on Marina Being savage Daaang I didnt know she had that Fire in Her lol Still the Best Idol For sho!! ❤🔥 Rockin Vid Btw Shurikan! 🔥
Thank you :) BUT YEAH BRO SHE WAS PACKIN HEAT AGAINST PEARL
pearlina is a thing and this proves it
SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE
Guys, I think Shurikan is Marina.
Uh uhm uh uhm
HOW DID YOU KNOW
I literally never knew this? Very interesting actually.
bro ain't no way you actually never knew 💀💀
@@ShurikanBlade I started in splatoon 2 like a year in bro
@@thebipedalsquid me realizing not everyone was a day 1er
The ending was funny
Thank you :)
hey guys this is completely unrelated but when does the splatfest team voting start?
Probably like tomorrow when the shell put machine resets
Hey it’s happening now ( at least in aus)so go do that
hello i am one of the last remnant of the original Pearl fanbase,, back at a time i couldnt play the game but watched video and video of it and was totally obsessed with Pearl ! i never understand the hate and she had always been the best girl
Idk why but I find it hilarious that they messed up the translation so bad like?? Don’t you guys have translators??
I think they did it on purpose cuz AINT NO WAY they messed it up this bad
@@ShurikanBlade honestly because there is no way this was a mistake that just floated by without detection
I actually remember this.. i was wondering why people said that a lot
one of the chosen few who were there
I got the game after the update, so I didn't experience it
Makes sense probably like the majority of people never even knew
Savage marina will come back in side order dlc 100% real
CONFIRMES BY PB&J CALLIE GUY!?!?!?
@@ShurikanBlade 😭this name will haunt me for the rest of my career
@@Kevs_BS THE PB&J CALLIE GUY FROM SPLATTY TUNES!?!?!? NO WAY
i thought she was *desaturated* of being very *gay* before release because some people might not be that happy about that
she kinda was from what i heard in the japanese very its simply hinted at often Marina likes pearl but its never established but this was lessened in all other versions
Yea nvm that makes sense nvm the other comment edited theirs a 2nd time so I have to as well
yeah that makes sense nvm wait nvm wait yeah
@@ShurikanBlade wait no nvm hold on
@@thenoodeeateryuhh hold on let em cook, wait nvm wait HE COOKIN???
#BringBackSavageMarina
Lets gooo
Don't worry nintendo totally watches my videos and is gonna bring her for side order
For some reason i thought this was gonna talk about that cursed marina hello kitty plush-
But ANYWAY nintendo is obviously trying to censor Marina’s obvious crush on pearl since it’s not a headcannon and cannon in japan, but you can’t get away with animation censorship because Marina gives Pearl a love tackle in the final scene of Octo Expansion no matter what!!! MWAAHAHAHA TAKE THAT NINTENDO
sorry i am way too passionate about this
whats the cursed marina hello kitty plush
@@ShurikanBlade basically in japan they made these off the hook plushes for the hello kitty splatfest. They, uh… let’s just say they “changed marina’s skin tone a little.” I’ll let you look that one up.
@@tix2164 uh oh I need to look this up
@@ShurikanBlade bahah okay
@@tix2164 it was not what I was expecting 💀💀
i thought you were gonna bring up the fact shes like. kinda gay oopsies
yknow everyone is saying this and maybe i shouldve. it like 100% slipped my mind that they also censored that
Marie 2.0?
Cuz Marie would always insult Callie
@@ShurikanBlade wait, why, but why?
@@wintercj idk I guess the writers thought it was funny but then the English Localizers did the same thing with Marina even tho she doesn't act like that at all in any other version
@ShurikanBlade oh, but why would the writers make miranda a jerk? I wouldn't believe Miranda would be a jerk. She would never.
@@wintercj probably because in the US Pearl was getting a lot of hate for her design so they probably jusy capitalized off that
honestly savage marina would make good mommy mat- *dies*
I didn’t know this tho! That’s an interesting factoid!
Uh oh
hi
bye.
i fr thought he was gonna talk abt how pearl and marina are 100% gay
Uh uhm uh uhm uh uhm 😳
@@ShurikanBlade shhh sh it’s ok
Savage Marina was fun tbh, as a Pearl fan, it did hurt to see her insult and be kinda mean to Pearl sometimes because they're supposed to be✨girlfriends(I AM A PEARLINA STAN) that care about eachother very much✨
Though, What made me hate Marie was her mean dialogues and i really wouldn't want to hate Marina for that too, she's such a sweet heart but if they made her unnecessarily mean like Marie then,,,, idk
Thinking back on it it was kind bad how much she insulted Pearl but also I thought it was funny. Although I'm glad it was removed
Tbh I’m happy that she was “censored”, it let the American audience get to see off the hook for what it truly was.
*”””””Gals being pals”””””*
Yeah it honestly shouldn't have been changed in the first place but I do miss some of that savagery Marina had
Pearl x marina is one of the best LGBT relationship in gaming and agent 3 x agent 8 is also good