Thanks for this great info. 7.62x54r will likely be my first venture into reloading rifle cartridges and you have answered a lot of questions I had in this one video.
Not everyone has a 91/30, some of us have M44s LOL. I got the Lee Classic Loader to neck size and load. The Hornaday manual is indeed awesome. I got a box each of PPU, S&B, and Winchester ammo to see how they run. First batch was way smooth compared to steel case, but still having problems with case mouth diameter and bullets. 308's slip into the case so I moved to Hornady .3105 174gr FMJ wc to see how it goes.this is very helpful, thanks for the video.
My load for 54r in my Hungarin M44 shoots about a minute and half at 100. 150gr Pro Hunter ontop of 46.5gr of IMR 4895 in PPU cases. Pretty darn happy with it.
About needing a "big boy press", I load (full length resize) 7.62x54R and .30-06 with a Lee Hand Press. If you are reasonably fit then its just a matter of finding favorable body positioning to apply enough leverage. Any bench mounted press should be more than enough if it can load standard length cartridges.
I went with IMR4350 for my powder. I have a old Lyman reloading manual that said it was their accuracy load. I went with 150 grain Speer bullets. Their box says 303 British. They are .311 diameter. I picked up a mosin that was sold by a armory out of the Ukranine. They installed a AK side rail and threaded the barrel. I found a low profile ak side mount. Took off the flash hider and installed a muzzle break. Installed a Barra Hero 5-25X50 rifle scope with EGW low height scope rings. Took it to the range. Was shooting it. When a gentleman approached me. And said can I take a picture of your load data. I asked why? He said I collect Mosins. In fact I own twelve. And none shoot as accurate as yours. 😊
For hunters. I wouldn't shoot any deer with those bullets if you want your meat. Amax is made for paper shooting at long range. On animals and milk jugs it behaves more like a ballistic tip varmint round. Rapid, violent, explosive expansion. If you hit any meat you want to keep, it will be burger mixed with lead. 168 grain amax. 3.0 COAL (can't go any shorter because it's a compressed load) 45.7 grains of 4064 (35 years old) from the hornady 3rd edition load manual from the 70s or 80s.
I watch all you videos. one advise...before you make video, you can make a list of main point then go through those points briefly, which make you video much more enjoyable. I am not saying your video is bad. It just too dry and too long. I believe that will give you videos way more views and thumbs, because i believe your video is most detailed Mosin reloading tutorial so far.
Looking back at this video, Trust me, you can't load these rifles hot enough to hurt them Unless your stock is nice and roomy on the action... Still the most fun rifle ever Best gallery load is 13 grains of red dot stuffed on top of anything you like, preferably anything sub 182gr, Better fun is to hand your buddy a mosin full of gallery loads and one full power match load.
I want to invest in reloading. what would you consider purchising for starting for the first time ? my main cailbers will range from 9mm and 7.62x54 i dont want too cheap...... but not to pircy either lol. also.... if you fire corrosive ammo can your reuse those casinings ? thank you
Do you leave the o-rings in your Lee die-set lock rings? I'm starting to think mine are causing inconsistencies being "free-floating" like they do with the o-rings.
No one answered you so, what you do is slug the bore with a soft lead ball or any soft slug of lead that's lubed with grease. You tamp that into your bore with a wooden dowel until it comes out the breach end and measure the fattest part of the slug with your calipers. If your reading is .311, you'll use a .312 jacketed bullet or a .313 cast bullet, for example. I use a 200 grain .314 cast bullet for both my Mosin and my 1918 SMLE.
Good afternoon Johnny's! My name is Vitaliy, I live in Ukraine and I am your subscriber on the RUclips channel and a regular spectator. I have several questions to you that relate to Mosin's rifle, since I own such a rifle and sports rifle AWL in the caliber of 7.62Х54р. my questions concern Mosin's rifle and reloading the cartridges to her. 1. Did you make the hitting of this rifle, if so which one? 2. Have you poured a descent (sear and trigger)? 3. Which powder and bullet are ideal for this rifle? 4. Have you tried the gunpowder Vihta Vuori No. 140?
Great video. I just bought some 311 Speer round nose soft point bullets to reload my mosin with. I have imr4064 powder. Can you tell me the starting and Max charge for this combination.
Seems to be a team with me commenting on your old videos but I have a 1918 dated M91 that the bore slugs .309 When loading for a mosin check your bore.
What edition of the Hornady manual were you using in this vid? I ordered the ninth edition and heard that it does not use .308 diameter bullets as an example for 7.62x54r reloads - it allegedly only a uses .311 -.312 . Do you know if that's true? If so, what would a 178 grain eld bullet require in terms of grains of powder using varget?
Nope. Both versions (9th and 10th) include 7.62x54R data for .308 bullets as well as some .311 and .312. Varget is not listed for the 178, unfortunately. They use it for the 174's and show 39.3-46.2gr.
Johnny's Reloading Bench so is there a SAFE way to figure out a load for the 178 with Varget or is there another resource I can look to to find that out? Thanks for the help btw!
The Hodgdon website has data for some Swift 180gr bullets. They show a range of 43.0-46.5. So you have 174gr bullets and a max of 46.2 (Hornady manual) and a 180gr bullet with a max of 46.5 (Hodgdon Website), so that gives you a good starting point. If you start around 40 and work your way up slowly, it's likely you won't blow your face off. Watch your pressure signs on your brass. You have to extrapolate sometimes in this hobby. Especially if you're limited to a single powder. Data for your exact combination just isn't always available. I'd make a video on the subject but it would probably be long and annoying.
Johnny's Reloading Bench I also saw X-treme bullets sells copper plated 7.62x39 bullets that people have been loading with 10 or so grains of 2400 for use in 54r
I shot that same name brand ammo through my Swiss k31 of course the 7.5x55 bullet. Today I just ordered another brand to try because the mouth of the cases where bent from shooting them I'm hoping it's the ammo and not the gun. I just got my gun and I'm not familiar with it yet.
+Billy Nix My K31 does the same thing if I try to run the gun at full speed and work the bolt hard and fast. It also slings brass all over god's creation. A resizing die will straighten them out no problem. I try to be much easier with the bolt now to prevent it, though.
You might be right! I was just repeating what I had read on the subject. The good news is that I just bought an M39 so I'll be slugging the bore in an upcoming video, and trying different diameter bullets in it depending on the results.
All M-39's have a .310 bore. All of them. some earlier Finnish Rifles were .308's but by the time they made the 39's they went with .310 to shoot the Russian ammo...................
If you're putting dimples in the neck or shoulder of your brass during resizing your using too much lube or you could have some junk built up in your dies
Back when I reloaded EVERYTHING, I realized as I was doing case prep an 7.62 X 39. What was I doing??? It's so cheap that there is no reason to reload, especially since I was duplicating standard loads anyway.
I make lite loads so i don't have to chase brass in my sks. 32acp and 32-20 projos run from .311 to .313. 100 xtp 60gr are 15$ per 100 10 gr of unique . 313 lead cast powdercoated 100gr are 8$ per hundred at my lgs 6gr unique works fine.200gr gcsp sized to .313 are 15$ at my lgs. 7gr of unique is a good load in my rifle. Its one of my favorite cartridges to work up loads for because their is a projectile that will preforn at every velocity . want subs? Pistol bullets work at those speeds.
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Ah, the good old days when components were easily available and didn't cost an arm and a leg.
Thanks for this great info. 7.62x54r will likely be my first venture into reloading rifle cartridges and you have answered a lot of questions I had in this one video.
Also .303 British for lee enfield.
I come from the year 2021 where 54R is a rare bird... I got 60 Unused Norma cases and never reloaded before so here we go. Thankyou for the help.
Let the time travel flow through you!
prolly watched all your 300 blk videos which got me into reloading. So happy i found your video with the same mosin i just bought!!!!!
Not everyone has a 91/30, some of us have M44s LOL. I got the Lee Classic Loader to neck size and load. The Hornaday manual is indeed awesome. I got a box each of PPU, S&B, and Winchester ammo to see how they run. First batch was way smooth compared to steel case, but still having problems with case mouth diameter and bullets. 308's slip into the case so I moved to Hornady .3105 174gr FMJ wc to see how it goes.this is very helpful, thanks for the video.
Yes sir! I've got a Lee press and think I might load some for my M44
love your video. like I'm in there for the hour long session. also love the fart machine, helps with keeping sanity in check after such session.
Raised the volume, and everytime you went 'PPPFTHH!!', my cats jumped and scurried.
My load for 54r in my Hungarin M44 shoots about a minute and half at 100. 150gr Pro Hunter ontop of 46.5gr of IMR 4895 in PPU cases. Pretty darn happy with it.
The Austin Doell iron sights?
My Russian M-44 shoots about… well, I might could hit the barn if I was inside it.
The lee x39 die set has both expanders. Probably safe to say that if you have a mosin you probly have something in 7.62x39.
I have a vepr54 and I want to get some monstrous velocity out of some medium weight ammo.
This is so cool!!!
About needing a "big boy press", I load (full length resize) 7.62x54R and .30-06 with a Lee Hand Press. If you are reasonably fit then its just a matter of finding favorable body positioning to apply enough leverage. Any bench mounted press should be more than enough if it can load standard length cartridges.
I went with IMR4350 for my powder. I have a old Lyman reloading manual that said it was their accuracy load. I went with 150 grain Speer bullets. Their box says 303 British. They are .311 diameter. I picked up a mosin that was sold by a armory out of the Ukranine. They installed a AK side rail and threaded the barrel. I found a low profile ak side mount. Took off the flash hider and installed a muzzle break. Installed a Barra Hero 5-25X50 rifle scope with EGW low height scope rings. Took it to the range. Was shooting it. When a gentleman approached me. And said can I take a picture of your load data. I asked why? He said I collect Mosins. In fact I own twelve. And none shoot as accurate as yours. 😊
What powder weight and COAL did you use?
Lol 7 years ago you could find 54r for 21 cents
As of 6/13/2023 a spam can of 7.62x54R is $399.99 on Gun Broker. Thats .90 cents per round.
Insane
You can also (very carefully) visually inspect the length of your cartridge by comparing to a factory load...
For hunters. I wouldn't shoot any deer with those bullets if you want your meat. Amax is made for paper shooting at long range. On animals and milk jugs it behaves more like a ballistic tip varmint round. Rapid, violent, explosive expansion. If you hit any meat you want to keep, it will be burger mixed with lead.
168 grain amax. 3.0 COAL (can't go any shorter because it's a compressed load) 45.7 grains of 4064 (35 years old) from the hornady 3rd edition load manual from the 70s or 80s.
The primer pocket reamers are helpful for getting rid of military crimps on some brass, especially 5.56/.223 from some manufacturers.
I SSMDad that’s what I use it for
The rcbs 29001 set comes with both expanders. No Lee factory crimp of course, so it's a 2-die set.
I watch all you videos. one advise...before you make video, you can make a list of main point then go through those points briefly, which make you video much more enjoyable. I am not saying your video is bad. It just too dry and too long. I believe that will give you videos way more views and thumbs, because i believe your video is most detailed Mosin reloading tutorial so far.
I have a new barrel on my mosin with a .303 bore 1-10 twist. Is it safe to shoot surplus? Silver Bear 203 grain? Winchester?
Got an o pap today. It is absolutely nicer than any other AK's I have ever seen. Even my vepr
Slytiger opaps better than every other ak...lolol my wasr says otherwise
Looking back at this video,
Trust me, you can't load these rifles hot enough to hurt them
Unless your stock is nice and roomy on the action...
Still the most fun rifle ever
Best gallery load is 13 grains of red dot stuffed on top of anything you like, preferably anything sub 182gr,
Better fun is to hand your buddy a mosin full of gallery loads and one full power match load.
I love heavy AND fast ammo for my sniper mosin.
Have a vid of me shooting it.
thanks for the video just bought a mosin 44 Carbine shooting ppu and have been saving the brass to reload.
148DMC nice 👌🏻
I want to invest in reloading. what would you consider purchising for starting for the first time ? my main cailbers will range from 9mm and 7.62x54 i dont want too cheap...... but not to pircy either lol. also.... if you fire corrosive ammo can your reuse those casinings ? thank you
Did you ever find an answer? Would like to know myself.
The simple answer is to buy the small investment first. (The reloading manuals)
That way you learn well before making the bigger purchases.
Do you leave the o-rings in your Lee die-set lock rings? I'm starting to think mine are causing inconsistencies being "free-floating" like they do with the o-rings.
If you just got a random 91/30....how do you tell what size bullet (.308 or .311) it takes?
No one answered you so, what you do is slug the bore with a soft lead ball or any soft slug of lead that's lubed with grease. You tamp that into your bore with a wooden dowel until it comes out the breach end and measure the fattest part of the slug with your calipers. If your reading is .311, you'll use a .312 jacketed bullet or a .313 cast bullet, for example. I use a 200 grain .314 cast bullet for both my Mosin and my 1918 SMLE.
As far as bore diameter, my American made Mosin has a 308 bore. It will really kick with the larger surplus cartridges!
which storage box are you holding your casings in?
any update for the cast lead videos for the mosin?
Good afternoon Johnny's! My name is Vitaliy, I live in Ukraine and I am your subscriber on the RUclips channel and a regular spectator.
I have several questions to you that relate to Mosin's rifle, since I own such a rifle and sports rifle AWL in the caliber of 7.62Х54р.
my questions concern Mosin's rifle and reloading the cartridges to her.
1. Did you make the hitting of this rifle, if so which one?
2. Have you poured a descent (sear and trigger)?
3. Which powder and bullet are ideal for this rifle?
4. Have you tried the gunpowder Vihta Vuori No. 140?
Great video. I just bought some 311 Speer round nose soft point bullets to reload my mosin with. I have imr4064 powder. Can you tell me the starting and Max charge for this combination.
Seems to be a team with me commenting on your old videos but I have a 1918 dated M91 that the bore slugs .309
When loading for a mosin check your bore.
What edition of the Hornady manual were you using in this vid? I ordered the ninth edition and heard that it does not use .308 diameter bullets as an example for 7.62x54r reloads - it allegedly only a uses .311 -.312 . Do you know if that's true? If so, what would a 178 grain eld bullet require in terms of grains of powder using varget?
Nope. Both versions (9th and 10th) include 7.62x54R data for .308 bullets as well as some .311 and .312. Varget is not listed for the 178, unfortunately. They use it for the 174's and show 39.3-46.2gr.
Johnny's Reloading Bench so is there a SAFE way to figure out a load for the 178 with Varget or is there another resource I can look to to find that out? Thanks for the help btw!
The Hodgdon website has data for some Swift 180gr bullets. They show a range of 43.0-46.5. So you have 174gr bullets and a max of 46.2 (Hornady manual) and a 180gr bullet with a max of 46.5 (Hodgdon Website), so that gives you a good starting point. If you start around 40 and work your way up slowly, it's likely you won't blow your face off. Watch your pressure signs on your brass. You have to extrapolate sometimes in this hobby. Especially if you're limited to a single powder. Data for your exact combination just isn't always available. I'd make a video on the subject but it would probably be long and annoying.
Johnny's Reloading Bench lol you should make it.
Johnny's Reloading Bench thanks again
have you had the chance to try lead bullets yet? I noticed eggleston has 30 caliber 200gr .311 diameters on their website
Not yet! Coming very soon.
Johnny's Reloading Bench looking forward to that video since I have the lee and hornady book but neither of them have info on lead bullets
Johnny's Reloading Bench I also saw X-treme bullets sells copper plated 7.62x39 bullets that people have been loading with 10 or so grains of 2400 for use in 54r
Johnny's Reloading Bench or not...
Which size mtm Ammo box isn't that???
Heard you mention your Garand. Where did you get it and how much did it cost? I'd like to get one just for fun shooting.
+bassetthound2008 CMP sevice grade thecmp.org/cmp_sales/rifle_sales/m1-garand/
bassetthound2008
That is called a navy grand. They fire 7.62x51.
your videos are awesome. do more 7.5x55mm(a beginners video maybe)?
I have the m-44 and I have sent it to Teludyne Technologies to have their straight jacket system put on it.
I shot that same name brand ammo through my Swiss k31 of course the 7.5x55 bullet. Today I just ordered another brand to try because the mouth of the cases where bent from shooting them I'm hoping it's the ammo and not the gun. I just got my gun and I'm not familiar with it yet.
+Billy Nix My K31 does the same thing if I try to run the gun at full speed and work the bolt hard and fast. It also slings brass all over god's creation. A resizing die will straighten them out no problem. I try to be much easier with the bolt now to prevent it, though.
I need to figure out what my VEPR is slugged to
Ive never heard of an m39 with a .308 bore. thought that the Finns designed the m39 to use captured Russian ammo which was .311?
You might be right! I was just repeating what I had read on the subject. The good news is that I just bought an M39 so I'll be slugging the bore in an upcoming video, and trying different diameter bullets in it depending on the results.
All M-39's have a .310 bore. All of them. some earlier Finnish Rifles were .308's but by the time they made the 39's they went with .310 to shoot the Russian ammo...................
have you slugged your Mosin barrel yet? .............................JRW
My dies for some reason puts dimples on the neck when set at your setting of the die
If you're putting dimples in the neck or shoulder of your brass during resizing your using too much lube or you could have some junk built up in your dies
Back when I reloaded EVERYTHING, I realized as I was doing case prep an 7.62 X 39. What was I doing??? It's so cheap that there is no reason to reload, especially since I was duplicating standard loads anyway.
I make lite loads so i don't have to chase brass in my sks. 32acp and 32-20 projos run from .311 to .313. 100 xtp 60gr are 15$ per 100 10 gr of unique . 313 lead cast powdercoated 100gr are 8$ per hundred at my lgs 6gr unique works fine.200gr gcsp sized to .313 are 15$ at my lgs. 7gr of unique is a good load in my rifle. Its one of my favorite cartridges to work up loads for because their is a projectile that will preforn at every velocity . want subs? Pistol bullets work at those speeds.
Can you do this with steel cases?
Hell no steel is garbage after one shot
@@Frankrhm haven’t and won’t reload steel cases. This was stupid me lol
@@DrSnackCake5 if you can find berdan primers and get the old ones out sure :)
The barrel on my m44 is atrocious, don't feel safe shooting it anymore. Miss it though.
I just rebarreled my 91/30. McGowen Precision Barrels in Montana. They make M44 copies too.
What advice can you give me?
+Slytiger Disgruntled Veteran Channel Start low and work your way up. Just like anything else.
Why can't we reload the original suprplus brass? Why is drilling the berden out of the brass such a problem?
That might work. I've never tried it.
Converting berdan cases to use boxer primers.
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late comment. Thought that most surplus ammo was lacquered steel case?
Isn't it illegal to reload 7.62x52r?
No. Who told you that?
slug your bore it will tell you what the diam of your bore is. if it's 308 then u can't use the .311 bullets
+7.62x54man Thanks for mentioning that! I have already slugged mine. I am going to do it again in one of the upcoming videos.
I enjoyed watching this video. Thanks! Pthbbtbt
pfttt!
Me in 2022: 3 cents for primers 😯
Lol who knew 2022 can’t buy ammo as easily.
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