DRAGON'S LAIR X REPLICADE VS. ORIGINAL ARCADE DRAGON'S LAIR. REVIEW Cinematronics HDMI - PART 1
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- I OVERLOOKED THE MINI LASERDISC PLAYER IN THE DRAWER! WHOOPS! PART 2 IS HERE:
• DRAGON'S LAIR X REPLIC...
In this video we are going to compare the Dragon's Lair X Replicade by NEWWAVE TOYS versus the original 1983 Cinematronics Dragon's Lair arcade game with original laser disc player. In this video we will do an uboxing, a review, and try out the HDMI functionality with a PS4 controller plugged in via USB.
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Omg dragon's lair... Aladdin's castle, Oakdale mall in new York... It was THE game. There was a crowd around it but the cabinet also had a monitor like 10 ft above it so the crowd could see the action. That's arcades man...they were incredible.
John, how did you miss the mini laserdisc player in the back of the cabinet? I couldn’t wait to see how giddy you would get to discover it
Was literally just wondering when John would bless us again
His camera broke last episode :( he probs had to get that replaced before he could upload again
Same, I looekd him up too
Yeah was thinking the same thing. Almost thought he had given up on us again 😬
Totally worth the $100. I was 13 when it came out in the arcades. I’ve always wanted that game and cabinet in my house, even at 50 years old now I still do. Since having the real deal seems out of the question at this point, this little beauty will do just fine. Just looking at the cabinet takes me back. I love it! They did a wonderful job. I use to play it at a Chuck E Cheese in Newport News Va in ‘83. A guy much older than me would beat the game on one life. He helped me with the levels I couldn’t do. Eventually I was going through the game like that and a crowd would get behind me and watch. It was great. The 80’s...I’d go back and stay if I could.
Hey John, its me Jesse (with the Street Fighter 1). I finally fixed the monitor issues, and am still working on that dirty dip switch, thank you so much for answering my email! Love the videos man, keep it up!
I was so ready for him to find the mini laser disc...
🤙🏾💯
Damn right there was a draw bridge. It's even on the sega cd version.
John the "screen blanking" option mimics the black screen you get when the laserdisc seeks. Eg when you die, or between scenes.
There WAS a drawbridge. A tentacle came up out of the moat
Included in the dvd release and android version too
There's a little drawer in the back that had a mini laser disk player replica that you can put the tiny laser disk in.
I could of sworn there was a mini laserdisc player in the back from other reviews, guess john just missed because it's hidden.
Had?
I can confirm it :) You can even open up the lid.
@@JesseH76 you're correct. There's is
Easily worth the $120. The amount of detail, quality, and extras are quite impressive. I was also surprised by how playable it is. Dare I say this is the coolest "toy" I own (and I have a lot of toys hah). You must do a follow up showing your discovery of the LaserDisc player in the back :P :P
:O new John's arcade videos? Umm.. yes please!
Yes another video! Was actually thinking about getting one of these, Dragons Lair is a classic, hope all is well with you and your family! 😎
This video made me fire up the home arcade tonight! Thanks John!
Christmas came early! A new John’s Arcade!!!!
I remember when this came to Lynchburg, Va in 1983 and there was a drawbridge at the beginning. Love this game and like you, my meager allowance didn't allow me to play it often. I also remember that the arcade (Video Voyage) had a spectator monitor installed and there was a crowd gathered around this game.
I'm glad someone else remembers the drawbridge scene actually being in some releases of the game, since practically every Internet source nowadays claims it was never actually accessible in the original version. I think I only saw it once (pretty sure it was in an arcade in Frederick, MD) but I definitely saw it well before it was included in later home versions.
@@esmerylan Oh its there and here's the proof. ruclips.net/video/znO_m00s8II/видео.html
So good to see you ! Thank you for posting
So glad your uploading again John! Great Video! I just went to the site and these are out of stock, so hoping to snag one up soon!
That level that you haven't seen is a standard level on the original - I certainly recall playing it.
Did he not open up the laserdisc player door on the mini cab? There's a little model laserdisc player in there!
Keep the videos coming. Get the love for the games back. Been there done that. Thanks
Amazing Collection!!!!! Always LOVED Dragon's Lair. So miss those days in the arcade. Great times!
I will tell you this, the scene where you jump on the platform and you jump off on the third plank...the mirrored scene of that you can keep dropping until the 9th plank. You’ll know because it’s darker and the planks start on the right side. I love all of Dirks yells and screams when you let him fall for that long haha.
That difference from the 80's mini cabs to today is amazing!
Great to see you John. Just got one of the Dragon's Lair Replicades also. I love it. It is just so well done.
Haha! With a tiny table and popcorn machine.
He’s back! Good to see ya John!!
Drawbridge does exist. It was not on the US versions of the game. It was on non us versions of the arcade version of the game. It did however, appear in the home ports.
That’s f-in’ awesome. We must be about the same age, because I had the same experience, with the $.50 thing and watching older kids.
Remember Thayer’s Quest? I dunno why that’s never around, anymore.
There is a bridge scene-with a tentacle eye monster who just takes one swing, then you swing into the castle, right at the beginning. The iOS port has that scene on it, straight away...
Space Ace, flying through the maze and traversing the passage, while those smashing machines took out parts of the ground, around you, were so tough. I have that on DVD, playable on regular DVD players, from the LATE-‘90s remakes they made. I got it at EB, before they were sold to the dark side...
Great to see another Video, I'm sure that table has got even more wobbly than before, also I'm sure there was a Drawbridge at the start of Dragon's Lair when I played it years ago
50 cents? You were lucky, it was 1 dollar where I lived. By that time most current games were 50 cents but this was the first game that cost a full dollar followed shortly by games like Daytona USA being a dollar or if you were lucky 75 cents...
Howdy John, first, Dragon's Lair is my most favorite and my most sought after game, I own 2 digital copies, but would love to have the original arcade version, after watching your channel for the past several months, it has reignited my desire to have my own original arcade games at home, so far I have a multicade cocktail, Thank you for reminding me just how much I love video games, I've always been a gamer, I played Dragon's Lair in the arcade when it came out in 1983, at the age of 13, as I said, my most Favorite arcade game hands down, I also really love GORF, looking for that original arcade game as well,
Just as a side note, I've watched your videos from years ago, and in all this time, you still have that tiny wobbly table ?? Surprised you haven't had anything fall off of it lol
Thank you again for the game review of the new Dragon's Lair 1/4 scale home game, Stay safe and game on my Friend, Peace
That table is wobbly as heck
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I love your videos a lot and I love your arcade
john, miss your content, even just walkthrough's. hopefully see you back soon my man.
I thought I saw that the mini Dragon's Lair came with a mini laser player for the mini laser disc it came with.
It does have a mini PR 7820, there is a drawer in the back of the cabinet. The lid opens and the laserdisc can be placed inside. It even has the mini remote control.
yeah LGR covered it
@@hunterzero2634 That's what I thought.
I was waiting for John to show that off.
Good to see you back man!
Hi John . Its nice to see you again . Right on ⚓🇺🇸
That machine is epic. I'm building a mini arcade corner. John get the CHANGE MACHINE charger
19:50 - After Dragon's Lair came out in 83, Cinematronics was acquired by Tradewest and renamed Leland Corporation in 87, which released Dragon's Lair II and Ivan Stewart's Super Off Road. In 94 Leland was bought by WMS Industries (formerly Williams). Around 2015 WMS merged with Scientific Games (who also owned Bally and Shuffle Master, manufacturer of shuffling machines and slot machines).
Spot on information.... Thank You
Wikipedia is a great help 😉😉 😂😂
That's one beautiful toy. You need to make a little scaled down corner of your basement to put it in with a scaled down John playing it XD
your memories of seeing the original are exactly how i felt seeing this in showbiz pizza.
The only drawbridge I recall was in the beginning of Dragons Lair Time warp. It took me a minute to figure out the blank metal piece can replace the labeled one on the coin door. Was expecting him to review the mini laser disc player but oh well.
Man I cant wait for that table to finally break, Like the popcorn machine
That’s piece of metal that comes in the bag, is to cover up the Replitonics logo on the coin door, if you want too.
Really cool, I think it’s a bit too fast though switching between the scenes so the screen blanking feature probably helps a bit.
Funk yeah. I love you and your videos, John!
I remember the draw bridge too, it was like the very first level and you had to get past some tentacles coming up through a hole in the middle of it, it's shown in the attract mode of your game.
Thats the nes version apparently cause i remeber the avgn review of it
"I'm pretty bad at this game."
Well, you're doing a hole lot better than I could.
love the vid-this game was soooo hard - i was just a spectator as a kid. would be cool to use this as the hardware for a fresh dragons lair build.
Johns back!!
Depending on the version of the DL rom, there is a drawbridge at the beginning. I have it on my mame cab. I believe it was adjusted in a future rom as too many people were losing all their lives before they could even got into the castle !
It's also included in the dvd release and android version.
Yeah that the reason they took it out, after you die twice on the drawbridge, then you were allow in the castle, but then your down to one life.
Hey John great video, I absolutely love dragons lair, just a fyi, you can get the rims that play the drawbridge scene for your cabinet. I had the Roms in my cabinet before I sold the machine like an idiot.
The 'Screen Blanking Feature' is to simulate the access time of the old laserdisc players. Since rooms could be accessed randomly, the player had to read different parts of the laserdisc at different times.
Random Aside- Just in case people here didn't know, Laserdiscs are NOT a digital medium, like Compact Discs or DVD's. Though a laser is used to read the discs, they are very much like vinyl records. As a matter of fact, in the 1970's there actual was a disc-based video format that used a needle instead of a laser.
Though it's kind of a shame that time will eventually render all laserdiscs unplayable, we can take some comfort in knowing that all the information on those discs will not be lost & ultimately, that's more important.
Nice, I hope we will get a second channel John's Mini Arcade!
There's a miniature LD player in the little pretend drawer like the big machine
The screen blanking is supposed to mimic the search that would happen on the original laserdisc game. They called it the NTB, or necessary technical blackout. It's what happened to old laser discs when you would search or even pause the image. I would turn that back on because the game is playing so quickly from scene to scene. Also I would turn the difficulty to easy, because that allows more time for joystick movements. There is a half random half sequential level sequence. There was a website that described the sequence of the scenes and how they were picked. but I haven't seen in a really long time and I can't seem to find it either. Great video thanks for posting it. The drawbridge scene was supposed to be in the original. But it never made it into the production. Although it is contained on the laserdisc, and made it into most of the home versions.
Hi John Dragons lair has a tictactoe , heads or tails thing going on for scene selection there are 13 grids of 3 scenes which are set and a scene is choosen at random from 3 set scenes then it moves down the grid till the falling disc 9 levels then it goes back to the top and plays one of the two remaining scenes that gives the game its randomness
Screen blanking is what the original LaserDisc did when it was loading transition screens.
Just catching up on these, that mini cab is pretty cool, nice display item even if it isn't played often.
I find the Dragon's Lair replica fascinating. Such a replica was impossible to make in 1983, because only in the 21st Century, computers can display full-motion video directly instead of controlling a laser disc player, the video is stored on solid state memory chips, and there are tiny hi-res screens. Back in 1983, you could only do a half-assed Pac-man with fixed LED's, as tiny hi-res screens weren't possible.
Finally a new episode
Great Video John. I been a Dragon's Lair nut since 1983 and was able to finish it in the arcade back in the day. Please check out what iircade is doing and their version of DL. Can't wait to get mine so I can get atop the worldwide global leaderboard on iircade. As far as these little machines. Bought 2 of them and love them. As beatable as a real size machine.... The drawbridge scene was removed from the arcade game. Developers thought it was too hard for an opening scene...
Great to see some more Johns arcade updates! That dragon's lair mini looks cute but for over $100 I'd like to at least see both games and space ace. Wonder if it's hackable to add anything else to it...
Pac-Man guy. The cabinet to jamma adapter I bought had an option to make player 1 and player 2 fire buttons. You can also solder on extra wires for the extra buttons as well, in case you get another control panel. You can play the track ball games with the joystick. I think you can play every game on the 60-in-1 except gunsmoke, because you can't shoot left. I do think there was a look and shoot option for it, so maybe you can play it. The worst part of the 60-in-1, is going one by one and setting up the virtual dip switches to factory settings. If you don''t all the games are set on easy mode, so it can get boring. I did the same to a Miss Pac-Man I got free from a friend, when your starting out, just don't hack the cabinets if you can help it.
You're not crazy, there's extra latency. That's just the price you pay for emulation. And your TV probably added even more because that's what TVs do.
Thats not the price you pay for 'modern' emulation. There are emulators now that can be set to surpass original hardware input delay.
Good review. I have the Replicade mini cabinet, and I’m jealous of your real arcade cab. I first beat the game at age 12 in the arcades, and the Replicade machine is very playable. I’ve made it back to the Dragon’s Lair, but I still need to beat it.
First, Dragon’s Lair is a 4 way game, not 8 way. There are no diagonal moves. Also, screen blanking is to simulate the pause between Laserdisc tracks.
Thanks for the great video!
Literally the game that blew me away as a kid. Saw it when it was first released in The Mall of America. The crowd of kids around the machine was so big, they mounted a 2nd monitor 10 feet up so you could watch. Then I had to go home and play my crappy Atari 2600...
Now we just need a mini johns arcade high score card for this to put on the marquee
The table rocks worse than ever...time to not put anything on the table.
@Scott Luther he's tried to fix it once, didn't really make a difference. I use a pub table for my program, but the only thing I put on it is the wireless keyboard and mouse to control the teleprompter. Even if it wobbles, there isn't a tall popcorn machine to amplify it. I'd set the popcorn machine on the floor while filming the show.
@@Crimefighter lol it broke once when filming a on the road episode
OMG, Im dreaming? YESSS NEW VIDEO!!
Excited to watch this.
Waiting for new video drop. Cant wait for the arcades to reopen.
You will have to have a covid vaccination card. All businesses will require it for admittance.
A few things. You're not going mad. There is an extra drawbridge scene depending what version you own. This is included with the Digital Leisure DVD tripple release of Dragons Lair. Its also included with the Android version. Also, there is suppose to be a replica laser disc player included in the mini version? Didn't you get that as I didn't see it when you unpacked it?
there are no diagonals, only U D L R
I think that is not true.
Earned 👍. My favorite game, I beat it few times on Legends ultimate arcade. Watch the dragon's lair documentary, it's interesting.
I believe this game cost 1 million dollars to make maybe the most expensive game ever for it's time
If your going to recommend a doc, a name would be nice. Do you realize how many results just came up for "dragons lair documentary"? Hell, the first link is a movie about pedophila. So yeah, whatever movie your talking about, I have no fucking clue what it is.
@@Sparkmovement yup
Weird that you show the new Game & Watch just for a screen size comparison but that's the first time it's been on the channel - I'm guessing it was in a member-exclusive live stream...?
Hey John check out your mini dragons lair there is a laser disc in the back
Yes Space was collapsing in the last videos
Regarding the ropes level, there is a timing bug in the software, and only when the ropes go left to right. It's definitely in the mini-Replicade version, but I don't know if it's in the actual arcade version (I would assume yes since it's supposed to be the same thing). If you hit "right" immediately as soon as the rope is near, then each swing you just have to wait until Dirk's hand leaves the rope to reach out for the next one to go right and you will hit it every time. HOWEVER, if you wait for the scene where the ledge starts to retract and then hit right, you have to hit right BEFORE Dirk's hand leaves the rope each time or you will die. This is only when the ropes go from left to right. Going right to left is always after Dirk's hand leaves the rope, regardless of whether you go left immediately or wait for the ledge to retract.
A Shinobi mini Replicade would kick major butt hopefully it comes out some day.
I think i just got the pun with "quarter scale". lol.
First time I seen this was @ the ground round. Stamford CT it was placed at the bar area 😇
Screen blanking would be when the screen goes blank! When the laserdisc searches for the correct scene after your input on the arcade machines. I really struggled with these games as a kid, I could never work out what to do. Even now on PS4 I find this game hard, I just seem to miss my window to input.
There is a draw bridge at the start!.... wonder why it's not on you's
I have this on my iPad. If you download the Dragons Lair app from iTunes, there's a draw bridge stage at the beginning.
I think you’re missing some segments like the lava goons as well as the bridge.
That dragons lare mini is sweet.
I wonder if they will do a dragons lare 2 time warp and space ace as well?
I'll bet I can blow your mind, LOL. On the back of the Replicade unit there is a drawer you can open and inside is a replica laserdisc player and a replica remote control. You can even open the laserdisc player and put the replica laserdisc in it. The small black metal piece you can't figure out, that is a magnet to cover up the "Replitronics" logo on the coin door so you can use that to cover up the logo on the coin door if you don't like it. And speaking of the coin door, that opens too and is a good place to store those mini tokens so you don't lose them. See my comment below on game tips. :) I know this game like the back of my hand. I finished it back in the day by ordering a solution book that was advertised in the back of a video game magazine. About $30.00 in quarters later I slayed the dragon. I remember it like it was yesterday, it was at a Coney Island in a mall in LaCrosse, WI.
This is kind of interesting, because the Lazy Game Reviewer just reviewed this too!
You mentioned you swear there was a draw bridge scene in the beginning... are you sure you're not confusing it with one of the console versions? There was also a version I bought on dvd where you control Dirk with your remote's directional buttons.
No. Depending on what version you have, it's in the arcade release. It's included on the dvd and android version of Dragons Lair
I knew this was coming. I got the replicade because my full-size (ld-v1000 powered) machine is in storage. Can't wait to do the same comparison when it gets out. I love how the replicade one has a slight cabinet resonance sound to it. And yes, if you want a laser disc feel, you want screen blanking. Oh, and it's not the emulation doing the latency, so much as the digital display. Funny thing, they could recode the roms to compensate for that - perhaps a firmware update via a USB link? That or just amend your timings for 37 years later.
*Have you been delivering any papers my Boy???*
How goes the non 5v on your Atari AR III board?
It look like the 'octopus' regulator is out of production and NOS is only available source.
Or is it going to be sacrilege, and have a mystery box hiding a switch mode power supply?
Please never change the intro.
I think everyone just remembers the unused drawbridge scene from the attract mode, it's shown there.
@Mr Guru Yes, the footage and the ROM definitely exist, and are ripped and emulated. BUT-- what I'm saying is, to people 'remembering' playing the drawbridge scene in the arcade, that's not likely. Supposedly Cinematronics only location tested that version very briefly, and never distributed it. It made the game very unappealing, and resulted in most players never seeing anything besides the drawbridge scene.
are you thinking of the dragons lair for the nes? i think theres a draw bridge in that from what i remember on the avgn vid
The video of the drawbridge is on every laserdisc, but the game skips over it. Supposedly the drawbridge was the first scene in the prototype, but players in play test kept dying there and never getting into the castle. A fan made an "enhanced" version of the roms for the original hardware, and it does add the drawbridge back in. If you die a couple of times there, it skips it.
Hey John, in addition to you album that's coming out can we do shirts again this year? 😃
Now if they would only come back in stock so i can get my hands on this it would be great!!!!
Exactly, I'm waiting too for this awesome machine 💿💿 💀💀
Any ideas when it's back in stock, although it's likely to sell out v.quickly ...
awesome vid :)
There is a Drawbridge in the NES version of the game. Might be thinking of that
You should make a tiny version of your high score sticker to go on these tiny games.