1. Belong to same family in RUST with Roboco in August 2. Teasing each other at red light green light SportFes interview, etc. 3. Kanata visited Sui stream chat at least twice in this year 4. Replying to each other random posts multiple times on twitter 5. Both appeared in Koyori endurance stream last month You could tell those who spread the rumors didn't really follow either of them at all w
When KanaCoco and Suisei/Anemachi live next to each other, the thing happened where "she's my neighbor, I can go to her room anytime I want, so I'll just invite other people" and then she never does. Similar to like with Towa and Nose, they're close enough to talk regularly with each other, that an on-stream collab doesn't even cross their mind. So in short, just because they don't collab doesn't mean that they had a falling out or they now hate each other, sometimes it's even the opposite.
Kanata and Suisei are bestfriend they might not talk as much as Toko or Miko but they are always going to be friends, never going to be bad blood there, they are close. Kanata throat was hurting this night and she was still willing to talk for a friend, I love that Kanata is always there for people and finally we got KanaSui☄💫
Fun fact Suisei and Miko have never talked 1 on 1 offline. They only hung out 1 on 1 twice by accident. So yeah theyre close but it's super funny they don't do anything 1 on 1 outside of stream
@@venkaramon what are you talking about, they literally went on vacation together. They spent Christmas Eve together. You are pulling shit out of your ass.
Interesting, Angelfish was actually the first song I found from Hololive, great that people were able to archive it but a shame it was purged from youtube
@@doubleoz1 Back then management didn't bother getting permissions for things because Hololive was small enough to get away with it. Then Nintendo told them to start getting permissions. Management did, _but only going forward_ and didn't bother getting it for any of their previous content. Then Capcom gave Mio two copyright strikes for a past stream. Management responded by privating all Hololive content from before Nintendo told them to start getting permissions (and Subaru's manager deleted a lot of Subaru's content). Some of it has been unprivated as permissions have been acquired but not all of it.
Just for context, the reason Kanata and Suisei haven't been talking much was that when they started to live near each other, because Suisei and her sister still lived on a different room, they just kinda stopped talking as much. Seems according to them, they haven't been talking together much in general. I found it relatable cuz I've lived really close to people that I was close with, and I stopped hanging out with them without much of a reason. But as soon as one of us moved a bit further, we hung out more. It's just one of those bizarre fucking things lmao, so I believe this reason quite a bit. It was Coco who talked about this actually. Also Coco and Suisei were close, but they weren't the type of relationship where Suisei would just randomly hit her up to go eat something, which is supposedly something Suisei does on a daily basis.
@@PO-xk3qd i think its kaichou first that move out before she join vshojo because she works in different company and both vtuber agency that has to protect company confidential informations. kanata and hoshi sister idk which one move first. . i saw a clip about kanata no longer has any live interaction with "friend C" thats where ppl thought kaichouu already move out shortly before announcement she is joining vshojo
@@lqfr8813 That is false. First, KanaCoco wanted to move to a bigger apartment. After they moved and stayed together for a few months, and went on numerous vacations together, kson and Rushia joined Vshojo. Kanata told us after a lot of consideration and to avoid trouble in the future, she decided to move out alone. Kanata doesn't talk about Coco on stream but according to Lamy, Kanata still hangs out with Coco. She talks about Coco all the time. Kson also said Kanata/Pajakko is like a family to her. She would protect her the way she protects her family. I watched both Kson and Kanata's streams. Don't believe in clips.
@@PO-xk3qd KanaCoco move out first around December 2021. Suisei and her sister moved out around September 2022 due to some disagreement with her landlord.
Wish I'd caught this live, so glad to look forward to more Hoshi No Kanata on the Horizon, remember booking the day off work when they did the whole day of collab that one time.
Something to keep in mind for some viewers is a lot of Vtubers are generally more introverted and/or socially awkward, but get to hide it behind the avatar. Most "falling out" will most likely just be things like missing a text and getting too embarrassed to reply late only for it to get more awkward. Or in some cases they just don't meet up often because they don't leave their houses. It wasn't that long ago that Kanata couldn't speak if there was more than 4 people in a room. Now she was the team leader in a sports fest!
Hoshi no Kanata is great though their schedules are not matched so the collab becomes rare!! But 2023 seems to be a good year, totally looking forward to HnK collab again soon :)
suisei was one of kanata's very first pairings in hololive(outside of her gen) so i always thought they were still on great terms with each other. besides, they knew each other way before hololive
IIRC Suisei first pairing are with Flare, then Haachama joins and the group being called KarASHi. This happened before Hololive's popularity exploded at the end of 2019
@@erosshiro5484 /watch?v=NmEs8XdAIJ0 one of my most memorable kanasui(hoshi no kanata back then) clips, the stream was privated but it seems like its back. this is from their hoshi no kanata day(entire day collab) like 2 years ago. if its clips from way back, there isn't really any because they mainly interacted in twt iirc
For some reason when I saw that clip of Kanata that was released on her birthday I wondered if that was a representation of how she felt about that story of Gakki's wedding and that guy who looks a bit like Kanata in the clip was actually a male version of her and after seeing this comment from Kanata I'm starting to think that this is actually true
From the MV's description: 一人の女性への複雑な思いを曲にしてみました。 "I wrote a song about my complicated feelings for one woman." Also, if you look at the pictures in the MV, at least two of them are drawn versions of famous photos of Gakki and Hoshino Gen. A magazine cover featuring the two of them and a photo of them on their wedding.
I think the reason for these rumors is because they both remind a little of Pekomiko, they knew each other before they joined the Hololive and a few years ago they were closer but recently they are not so close anymore.
While i do miss kanasui (and trio with kaichou) speculating things like theyre on bad terms srsly never crossed my mind Also let's say they still hang out, not everything needs to be in the content. Or if they're actually in bad terms, it's not my place to interfere (Also it just reminds me of my friend when we hang out a lot but then things gets busy that we're not getting in contact anymore lol)
Just discovered that Kanasui was really a thing with that clip. Seems interesting, I hope I will see these two one in action. But somebody can tell me what happened to their Angelfish song ? Why it has to been privated ?
It's quite a simple explanation really, nothing overly controversial. They didn't have the necessary copyright licenses and/or permissions at the time. Angelfish is just one of those they still can't get permission for it seems. A couple of years back, Hololive got hit by a lot copyright strikes for music and games. Because they grew to a well known company so quick but weren't purchasing company level permissions. Capcom have even admitted to targetting Hololive specifically as an example.
for foreigners, don’t think hololive talents are bunch of lazzy who only stream while playing games and when done they just doing nothing. That’s a fakin wrong, they are freakin busy, like the entertainment talents aka idol, voca and dance lesson, meeting clients etc ... thus stop making theories such this bullcrap bad term between members,
Can't really blame people for thinking they were on bad terms, I also thought the same but it's really non of my business if they did get along or not. One of the things I noticed though was that on the off collabs on either houses, they didn't go and the members that went to their houses didn't mention the other going as well since they basically lived next to each other at that time. Was surprised when they did the Uno stream together but you could also notice that they didn't have much interaction at that time as well. The rust streams showed some improvement but this at least shows they're at least trying to do something. Not sure if this is related as well, but you could also notice she barely had any interaction with Coco until her graduation. Again, I'm not saying they are or were on bad terms but just sharing what I found odd.
bruh she cried when coco graduated. she was also attacked by anti when doing coco impression with matsuri and sui just set up 3 of her 1 year memeber as mods to clean up her chat.
I really want them to be a good term but this feels so fake lol. Anyone with common sense will know this is just counter measure from them/company. I mean, i didnt even read or watch conspiracy theory about them being bad term, but it just come to everyone mind because they always avoid each other. They never collab, never appear on each other live which can be coincident but when there was big collab like amongus / marikart /gartix phone they “never” appear together. That is not a coincident lol. Normal Co-worker level relationship will be tgt from time to time. It feels like as time past they know this is not a good thing for public so they will try to be normal coworker at least in public. Which is a good thing.
Its not even theory or anything because every suisei or kanata watcher with brain will notice this lol. Its just that obvious. But hey if this year they can at least comeback to normal coworker level everyone will be happy
Bruh if they choose to avoid each other why did they choose to live together in rust when they can talk and collab while playing and have to communicate since the house decay. You're just reading too much into it they both are busy. I have that one friend who I don't need to keep in touch much to maintain our friendship, you know each other are busy you can talk when the time come. Also everything doesn't have to be on stream. Like inui toko and Sui rarely collab on stream but they hang out all the time offline.
@@n_nse_se There is a group of hololive fan im in for years. Everyone know that when they have collab , if there is suisei there will be no kanata and vice versa. Everyone just notice and its not a cult group or anything its just normal fanbase group with positive vibe. But hey you can believe them or not its just to you :) just saying that if you dont notice anything you may had a hard time in social life at work
I wouldn't say it feels fake. They're just not what they used to be, as in they aren't as comfortable around each other. I do think something happened, but it's been 3 years, Coco is gone, etc. Safe to assume they're on talking terms.
I miss Hoshi no Kanata too
Its been 3000 years…… (ALSO GO LISTEN TO BOTH ANGELFISH AND TSUKIAKARI THEY ARE BANGERS)
1. Belong to same family in RUST with Roboco in August
2. Teasing each other at red light green light SportFes interview, etc.
3. Kanata visited Sui stream chat at least twice in this year
4. Replying to each other random posts multiple times on twitter
5. Both appeared in Koyori endurance stream last month
You could tell those who spread the rumors didn't really follow either of them at all w
And they performed together at Akirose 3D concert in April too.
When KanaCoco and Suisei/Anemachi live next to each other, the thing happened where "she's my neighbor, I can go to her room anytime I want, so I'll just invite other people" and then she never does. Similar to like with Towa and Nose, they're close enough to talk regularly with each other, that an on-stream collab doesn't even cross their mind. So in short, just because they don't collab doesn't mean that they had a falling out or they now hate each other, sometimes it's even the opposite.
Who’s Nose?
Kanata and Suisei are bestfriend they might not talk as much as Toko or Miko but they are always going to be friends, never going to be bad blood there, they are close. Kanata throat was hurting this night and she was still willing to talk for a friend, I love that Kanata is always there for people and finally we got KanaSui☄💫
Fun fact Suisei and Miko have never talked 1 on 1 offline. They only hung out 1 on 1 twice by accident. So yeah theyre close but it's super funny they don't do anything 1 on 1 outside of stream
@@venkaramon what are you talking about, they literally went on vacation together. They spent Christmas Eve together. You are pulling shit out of your ass.
Interesting, Angelfish was actually the first song I found from Hololive, great that people were able to archive it but a shame it was purged from youtube
Can you please elaborate why youtube do that? I genuinely curious about that
Might've been either the great purge or maybe it was saved on the PC Suisei lost that had all her old stuff
@@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni it was uploded on youtube and then got privated cuz of perm
@@DanielGonzalez-vo5ni it was the great purge
@@doubleoz1 Back then management didn't bother getting permissions for things because Hololive was small enough to get away with it.
Then Nintendo told them to start getting permissions.
Management did, _but only going forward_ and didn't bother getting it for any of their previous content.
Then Capcom gave Mio two copyright strikes for a past stream.
Management responded by privating all Hololive content from before Nintendo told them to start getting permissions (and Subaru's manager deleted a lot of Subaru's content).
Some of it has been unprivated as permissions have been acquired but not all of it.
Just for context, the reason Kanata and Suisei haven't been talking much was that when they started to live near each other, because Suisei and her sister still lived on a different room, they just kinda stopped talking as much. Seems according to them, they haven't been talking together much in general. I found it relatable cuz I've lived really close to people that I was close with, and I stopped hanging out with them without much of a reason. But as soon as one of us moved a bit further, we hung out more. It's just one of those bizarre fucking things lmao, so I believe this reason quite a bit. It was Coco who talked about this actually. Also Coco and Suisei were close, but they weren't the type of relationship where Suisei would just randomly hit her up to go eat something, which is supposedly something Suisei does on a daily basis.
kanata and suichan no longer live in same apartment right?
@@lqfr8813 yep. Kanata move out then so does Hoshi sisters. Kaichou .. can anyone confirm?
@@PO-xk3qd i think its kaichou first that move out before she join vshojo because she works in different company and both vtuber agency that has to protect company confidential informations. kanata and hoshi sister idk which one move first.
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i saw a clip about kanata no longer has any live interaction with "friend C" thats where ppl thought kaichouu already move out shortly before announcement she is joining vshojo
@@lqfr8813 That is false. First, KanaCoco wanted to move to a bigger apartment. After they moved and stayed together for a few months, and went on numerous vacations together, kson and Rushia joined Vshojo. Kanata told us after a lot of consideration and to avoid trouble in the future, she decided to move out alone. Kanata doesn't talk about Coco on stream but according to Lamy, Kanata still hangs out with Coco. She talks about Coco all the time. Kson also said Kanata/Pajakko is like a family to her. She would protect her the way she protects her family. I watched both Kson and Kanata's streams. Don't believe in clips.
@@PO-xk3qd KanaCoco move out first around December 2021. Suisei and her sister moved out around September 2022 due to some disagreement with her landlord.
I am surprised and really happy that Suisei still asks management about Angelfish. That's amazing
It's thanks to these two collab'ing back then that we got to hear Sui-chan's blessed screams in Minecraft on her first encounter with Silverfishes lol
While me waiting they reupload Angelfish, its the best duet vtuber cover all time.
Finally the return of Hoshi no Kanata!
Wish I'd caught this live, so glad to look forward to more Hoshi No Kanata on the Horizon, remember booking the day off work when they did the whole day of collab that one time.
Not in bad terms, its just Kanata to busy fighting for her boing boing while Suisei busy stalking Aqua.
God I miss those two singing together
Something to keep in mind for some viewers is a lot of Vtubers are generally more introverted and/or socially awkward, but get to hide it behind the avatar. Most "falling out" will most likely just be things like missing a text and getting too embarrassed to reply late only for it to get more awkward. Or in some cases they just don't meet up often because they don't leave their houses.
It wasn't that long ago that Kanata couldn't speak if there was more than 4 people in a room. Now she was the team leader in a sports fest!
one day it will be Aqua or Ayame
@@dokas999flayame did lead a valo team!
Hoshi no Kanata is great though their schedules are not matched so the collab becomes rare!! But 2023 seems to be a good year, totally looking forward to HnK collab again soon :)
suisei was one of kanata's very first pairings in hololive(outside of her gen) so i always thought they were still on great terms with each other.
besides, they knew each other way before hololive
Can i have a clip?
@@erosshiro5484 i'm not sure if there's a clip about it, but i know that suisei used to make mvs for kanata, before hololive.
IIRC Suisei first pairing are with Flare, then Haachama joins and the group being called KarASHi. This happened before Hololive's popularity exploded at the end of 2019
@@shinwa9230 you're right, but i meant that one of kanata's first pairing was with suisei
@@erosshiro5484 /watch?v=NmEs8XdAIJ0 one of my most memorable kanasui(hoshi no kanata back then) clips, the stream was privated but it seems like its back. this is from their hoshi no kanata day(entire day collab) like 2 years ago.
if its clips from way back, there isn't really any because they mainly interacted in twt iirc
For some reason when I saw that clip of Kanata that was released on her birthday I wondered if that was a representation of how she felt about that story of Gakki's wedding and that guy who looks a bit like Kanata in the clip was actually a male version of her and after seeing this comment from Kanata I'm starting to think that this is actually true
From the MV's description: 一人の女性への複雑な思いを曲にしてみました。
"I wrote a song about my complicated feelings for one woman."
Also, if you look at the pictures in the MV, at least two of them are drawn versions of famous photos of Gakki and Hoshino Gen. A magazine cover featuring the two of them and a photo of them on their wedding.
Angelfish is one of hololive’s best covers imo. Still waiting till the day it comes back
I think the reason for these rumors is because they both remind a little of Pekomiko, they knew each other before they joined the Hololive and a few years ago they were closer but recently they are not so close anymore.
Blame 4 chan all the gachikos there
While i do miss kanasui (and trio with kaichou) speculating things like theyre on bad terms srsly never crossed my mind
Also let's say they still hang out, not everything needs to be in the content. Or if they're actually in bad terms, it's not my place to interfere
(Also it just reminds me of my friend when we hang out a lot but then things gets busy that we're not getting in contact anymore lol)
I forgot Angelfish was privated.
It is, but if you search it on youtube a fan channel managed to reupload it
OMG I forgot about Angelfish
Just discovered that Kanasui was really a thing with that clip. Seems interesting, I hope I will see these two one in action. But somebody can tell me what happened to their Angelfish song ? Why it has to been privated ?
Permissions.
It's quite a simple explanation really, nothing overly controversial. They didn't have the necessary copyright licenses and/or permissions at the time. Angelfish is just one of those they still can't get permission for it seems.
A couple of years back, Hololive got hit by a lot copyright strikes for music and games. Because they grew to a well known company so quick but weren't purchasing company level permissions. Capcom have even admitted to targetting Hololive specifically as an example.
@@MillenniumDays Wow, it's rude to learn that about Capcom. So I see, it was part of that big copyright strikes. Thank you for the answer !
@@Duplucky5 I mean, it's kinda rude, but Hololive was making a lot of hay with Capcom's IP's. I kind of understand them.
@@Arassar I do not question the legitimacy of their action but to read that they served mainly as an example, it hurts. XD
Wheres Angelfish? I loved that cover of theirs
for foreigners, don’t think hololive talents are bunch of lazzy who only stream while playing games and when done they just doing nothing. That’s a fakin wrong, they are freakin busy, like the entertainment talents aka idol, voca and dance lesson, meeting clients etc ... thus stop making theories such this bullcrap bad term between members,
when
Dont forget the truth that they were married lol.
Can't really blame people for thinking they were on bad terms, I also thought the same but it's really non of my business if they did get along or not. One of the things I noticed though was that on the off collabs on either houses, they didn't go and the members that went to their houses didn't mention the other going as well since they basically lived next to each other at that time. Was surprised when they did the Uno stream together but you could also notice that they didn't have much interaction at that time as well. The rust streams showed some improvement but this at least shows they're at least trying to do something. Not sure if this is related as well, but you could also notice she barely had any interaction with Coco until her graduation. Again, I'm not saying they are or were on bad terms but just sharing what I found odd.
bruh she cried when coco graduated. she was also attacked by anti when doing coco impression with matsuri and sui just set up 3 of her 1 year memeber as mods to clean up her chat.
裏でより多くのやりとりをしているのに
ストリーミングでの出来事や目に見える内容だけで判断をする
愚かだ
why the song got purged?
Copyright strike
@@edz3592 ah i see youtubekun acting up again
Amane *"Not lesbian"* Kanata
I really want them to be a good term but this feels so fake lol.
Anyone with common sense will know this is just counter measure from them/company.
I mean, i didnt even read or watch conspiracy theory about them being bad term, but it just come to everyone mind because they always avoid each other.
They never collab, never appear on each other live which can be coincident but when there was big collab like amongus / marikart /gartix phone they “never” appear together.
That is not a coincident lol.
Normal Co-worker level relationship will be tgt from time to time.
It feels like as time past they know this is not a good thing for public so they will try to be normal coworker at least in public. Which is a good thing.
Or you're just reading into it way too much
Its not even theory or anything because every suisei or kanata watcher with brain will notice this lol.
Its just that obvious. But hey if this year they can at least comeback to normal coworker level everyone will be happy
Bruh if they choose to avoid each other why did they choose to live together in rust when they can talk and collab while playing and have to communicate since the house decay. You're just reading too much into it they both are busy. I have that one friend who I don't need to keep in touch much to maintain our friendship, you know each other are busy you can talk when the time come. Also everything doesn't have to be on stream. Like inui toko and Sui rarely collab on stream but they hang out all the time offline.
@@n_nse_se There is a group of hololive fan im in for years. Everyone know that when they have collab , if there is suisei there will be no kanata and vice versa. Everyone just notice and its not a cult group or anything its just normal fanbase group with positive vibe.
But hey you can believe them or not its just to you :) just saying that if you dont notice anything you may had a hard time in social life at work
I wouldn't say it feels fake. They're just not what they used to be, as in they aren't as comfortable around each other. I do think something happened, but it's been 3 years, Coco is gone, etc. Safe to assume they're on talking terms.