EVERY industry is not the same. I was an over-the-road driver 1991-2018 and I learned job hoppers take longer to get hired by another company than a driver who stays at a company for awhile. I went to one company and was asked why did I leave and said it was time. I spent almost 7.5 years running basically the same area all the time. They never sent me west of the Mississippi River. The company I was at before them, 6+ years, I saw the states Texas to Minnesota a good bit. With the first load leaving the house I could generally tell what kind of week I was going to have. If I left the house going to pick up tobacco from a receiving station I'd be looking at tobacco the rest of the week and sometimes into the next. It would pick up tobacco, deliver to a dryer, take load of dried tobacco to aging warehouse, pick up aged tobacco from and take it to cigarette assembly plant. From there go to cigarette warehouse and pick up a load to deliver wherever. Sometimes I'd pick up the other parts for the cigarettes and after delivery I could start over again. Seeing my load information saying Lowe's or someone else always made me happy. Sometimes I could do Lowe's for a week. Pick up at a supplier, deliver to a warehouse and pick up at that warehouse and take it to a store. One time I picked up a Lowe's load in Florida. They'd been to a convention and I brought their excess luggage back up. Dealt with some of the nicest people. And I always thought the people at the warehouses were nice but these folks had them beat.
Been working in same company for more than 10 years. So far company treated me well, and there are no other companies that would offer me better conditions
Thanks so much for the 2.5 minutes of your life that you'll never get back, that was your choice though not mine 🤣. And thank you for the backhanded compliment... maybe it's my lazy eye idk 🤣
I'm sure he was not looking at your eye.... But yeah the video was pointless because you argument had nothing to do with the base of what you were trying to say.... You can compare apples to oranges, but that doesn't mean the point sticks.... Job hopping and contracting are two different entities and have different standards Like college basketball to pro basketball... same game, completely different rules and regulations
@@greysongladney4403 no body cares honestly it was sarcasm 😂. If you read my comment responses I explain my situation because people like you think you can watch one video and know someone’s whole life story which is wild 😂. The actual definition of job hopping is moving jobs often, if you look it up, but I’ve done that for you because it seems too difficult in this day and age for people to research things it seems. I have had 18 jobs in my career, some full time that I left after 2-3 months, some contract that I didn’t see to term (ranging from 4 weeks to 6 months and extensions etc) so yes it is job hopping and it is a valid point. Obviously I used one as an example but we can agree to disagree 😊
Job hoppers I have run across are unreliable, call in all the freaking time and can't get off their stinking phones to do their jobs. However if you aren't one of these people...then hopping around can be advantageous in some regards but I don't consider contract roles really job hoping, that's sorta different.
Job hopping is changing your job very often. I've had about 18 jobs in total I would say to give a bigger context (because people - not you - but people in the comments think they know someone's life story in one video all the time 🤣 ) so considering that I would say that's job hopping as some jobs that I had full time employment with I left after like 2-3 months and moved on, others I've had contracts that I didn't see out full term and then contracts I stayed for like 2 years. I do agree that there are shxt people who job hop and don't do the work, obviously, you don't want those people haha I think people shouldn't be disregarded just because they job hop that's all as it definitely has it's benefits :). I find a CV/resume also doesn't really show case someones ability (as mentioned in the video) you really have to meet the person and also see them in action to know for sure. Just my opinion though 😃
I was in IT for 25 years. All of my jobs were contracts, which helped me to attain more knowledge and experience in the vast world of application development. In saying this, I have had to work with lifers who had no aptitude to learn new skill sets or patients for detail, which is needed. HRs perspective on people who stay at jobs longer being better employees is based on slave mentality. Keep your head down and fall in line.
100% agree. Longevity doesn't always = better workers. Just like knowing people for a long period of time doesn't mean they're loyal or trustworthy. I think it's just a very closed mindset that should be adjusted with the times. People aren't staying in places they don't feel happy or valued in, doesn't mean they aren't good at the job. I find if people aren't being valued for their work is when they leave so quickly, which is then beneficial because it means they're good and should be hired haha but a lot of them don't see it like that.
To your credit i agree about useless management, but you're missing the point and applying contract work to salaried employees, which isn't comparable. Losing a contractor to a better opportunity is expected that's why no one gives work to them that requires in depth business knowledge, proprietary information, or large amounts of trust. You're hired to complete tasks/project, not to maintain functional teams/departments over time. No one will hire you for that because the investment from the company is not worth it. If contract work is your thing fine, but you better be prepared to justify a long term position when your history indicates you're high risk for one. I stand by my comment on the referenced video. Don't take my word for it though, I'm just one of the useless management 😂
This is just an example. For context I’ve had 18 jobs in total throughout my career, not all contracts. I’ve only been in 1 job for longer than 2 years, 2 for almost 2 years, the rest are generally a couple months. I don’t know where you live but where I am, contractors are put in roles with the intention that they’ll go full time most of the time but they need to understand their need within the business first and use it as an argument point for funding if it is needed. The intention is to keep them because you’re still having to invest that time in training them and paying them at a higher rate. I’ve personally been hired in management roles as a contractor so I wouldn’t say no one will hire you for that (probably differs where you’re from). We also have director roles here that are on a contract basis (depends on the industry though). The whole point of the video though is to be more open minded to the times and not discredit people because you’re assuming something based on them job hopping. If someone is jumping it can be for so many reasons not just because they're useless 😂. I originally started doing contract roles because I was still figuring out what I wanted to do so I got to experience different environments, people, cultures, ways of management, work. You really never know you’ll like something until you do it. Then it just became the norm and I’ll never go back to full time 😂 (that’s just me personally though). P.s. a useless manager wouldn’t admit that so I’m sure you’re one of the good ones 😂
@@fiveheadedlady I agree with most of what you're saying, and under contract work I think it makes sense. I don't judge the work mercs. I just don't like it for me lol. I mostly objected to the original video because its bad advice without qualifying the conditions that support it. The next Gen workforce chasing money won't understand why they are high risk for positions when stability is sought after. I ask questions to assess what kind of work style they want. Preferences change, but most of what I see they are not sure where they "fit" and do lots of jobs.
Worked in IT for like 15 years…had probably two dozen jobs, a lot of them brief contract stints…worked in a lot of places, different industries, different ways of doing things…and learned a LOT more than if I’d been at 2-3 jobs. HR people are among the worst types of thinkers you could bring into a company-they always play to not lose instead of playing to win, so they find and create more problems than they ever solve, which holds progress back constantly. They also get hung up on credentials when they are easily obtained and completely not indicative of whether someone can actually do the work. You can teach skills, but you can’t teach interest, enthusiasm, or especially conscientiousness and authenticity to someone who thinks they already know stuff. I worked with a lot of people with credentials out the wazoo who were useless, while the smartest and hardest working people typically had no degree and no college at all. HR should just stick to explaining benefits to new hires and maybe background checks just before an offer is made. Otherwise, they’re an impediment.
"You can teach skills, but you can’t teach interest, enthusiasm, or especially conscientiousness and authenticity" THIS!!! I absolutely love and support that statement. I feel the same too, I would have never have learned and grown as much as I did if I stayed in one place. I've had about 18 jobs in total (roughly speaking haha) and it looks like a lot but the experience from each of them has been invaluable and so handy.
It does actually. Job hopping is changing jobs very often and when you've had 18 of them, some full time which were left after 2-3 months, some contracts which weren't completed full term, and some that went for under a couple years, then I would consider that job hopping. You're welcome to think otherwise that's fine 😃.
strange to be in that position talking about something like this in that clothing... that's like the man equilivan that oil my chest and be on the bench press with a towel on
oblivious to the subtle dance of delusion that cloaked her content in the allure of innocence while baring the truth of its underlying sensuality @@fiveheadedlady
@@powerman2610 It's fat and muscle on my chest, I don't see the hype for boobs personally but if someone is easily 'pleased' by this then good for them, pathetic, but each to their own. I'm not here to watch my every move because some stranger on the internet finds something sexual. Again, that's a you problem and I don't give a fxck 🤣
EVERY industry is not the same. I was an over-the-road driver 1991-2018 and I learned job hoppers take longer to get hired by another company than a driver who stays at a company for awhile. I went to one company and was asked why did I leave and said it was time. I spent almost 7.5 years running basically the same area all the time. They never sent me west of the Mississippi River. The company I was at before them, 6+ years, I saw the states Texas to Minnesota a good bit. With the first load leaving the house I could generally tell what kind of week I was going to have.
If I left the house going to pick up tobacco from a receiving station I'd be looking at tobacco the rest of the week and sometimes into the next.
It would pick up tobacco, deliver to a dryer, take load of dried tobacco to aging warehouse, pick up aged tobacco from and take it to cigarette assembly plant. From there go to cigarette warehouse and pick up a load to deliver wherever. Sometimes I'd pick up the other parts for the cigarettes and after delivery I could start over again.
Seeing my load information saying Lowe's or someone else always made me happy.
Sometimes I could do Lowe's for a week. Pick up at a supplier, deliver to a warehouse and pick up at that warehouse and take it to a store.
One time I picked up a Lowe's load in Florida. They'd been to a convention and I brought their excess luggage back up. Dealt with some of the nicest people. And I always thought the people at the warehouses were nice but these folks had them beat.
Oh of course! Every industry is different. I can understand in your industry why job hoppers wouldn't be favorable given the nature of it.
Been working in same company for more than 10 years. So far company treated me well, and there are no other companies that would offer me better conditions
So, Self employed?
I'm so glad you found your place! It's honestly hard to find but in saying that it also depends on what you want too. Happy for you 😃
@THillick Haha I was thinking this too but then again self employment also has it's downsides, especially when you have to deal without yourself😆
Truth! @@fiveheadedlady
I wish I could get back the 2.5 minutes I spent on this video, in fact, the only reason I watched this so long is that she really is easy on the eyes.
Thanks so much for the 2.5 minutes of your life that you'll never get back, that was your choice though not mine 🤣. And thank you for the backhanded compliment... maybe it's my lazy eye idk 🤣
I'm sure he was not looking at your eye....
But yeah the video was pointless because you argument had nothing to do with the base of what you were trying to say....
You can compare apples to oranges, but that doesn't mean the point sticks....
Job hopping and contracting are two different entities and have different standards
Like college basketball to pro basketball... same game, completely different rules and regulations
@@greysongladney4403 no body cares honestly it was sarcasm 😂.
If you read my comment responses I explain my situation because people like you think you can watch one video and know someone’s whole life story which is wild 😂.
The actual definition of job hopping is moving jobs often, if you look it up, but I’ve done that for you because it seems too difficult in this day and age for people to research things it seems.
I have had 18 jobs in my career, some full time that I left after 2-3 months, some contract that I didn’t see to term (ranging from 4 weeks to 6 months and extensions etc) so yes it is job hopping and it is a valid point. Obviously I used one as an example but we can agree to disagree 😊
@fiveheadedlady nobody cares... that's why you write a freaking essay to me?
@@greysongladney4403 I meant nobody cares about where his eyes were looking 🙄.
Job hoppers I have run across are unreliable, call in all the freaking time and can't get off their stinking phones to do their jobs. However if you aren't one of these people...then hopping around can be advantageous in some regards but I don't consider contract roles really job hoping, that's sorta different.
Job hopping is changing your job very often. I've had about 18 jobs in total I would say to give a bigger context (because people - not you - but people in the comments think they know someone's life story in one video all the time 🤣 ) so considering that I would say that's job hopping as some jobs that I had full time employment with I left after like 2-3 months and moved on, others I've had contracts that I didn't see out full term and then contracts I stayed for like 2 years. I do agree that there are shxt people who job hop and don't do the work, obviously, you don't want those people haha I think people shouldn't be disregarded just because they job hop that's all as it definitely has it's benefits :). I find a CV/resume also doesn't really show case someones ability (as mentioned in the video) you really have to meet the person and also see them in action to know for sure. Just my opinion though 😃
I was in IT for 25 years. All of my jobs were contracts, which helped me to attain more knowledge and experience in the vast world of application development. In saying this, I have had to work with lifers who had no aptitude to learn new skill sets or patients for detail, which is needed.
HRs perspective on people who stay at jobs longer being better employees is based on slave mentality. Keep your head down and fall in line.
100% agree. Longevity doesn't always = better workers. Just like knowing people for a long period of time doesn't mean they're loyal or trustworthy. I think it's just a very closed mindset that should be adjusted with the times. People aren't staying in places they don't feel happy or valued in, doesn't mean they aren't good at the job. I find if people aren't being valued for their work is when they leave so quickly, which is then beneficial because it means they're good and should be hired haha but a lot of them don't see it like that.
To your credit i agree about useless management, but you're missing the point and applying contract work to salaried employees, which isn't comparable. Losing a contractor to a better opportunity is expected that's why no one gives work to them that requires in depth business knowledge, proprietary information, or large amounts of trust. You're hired to complete tasks/project, not to maintain functional teams/departments over time. No one will hire you for that because the investment from the company is not worth it. If contract work is your thing fine, but you better be prepared to justify a long term position when your history indicates you're high risk for one. I stand by my comment on the referenced video. Don't take my word for it though, I'm just one of the useless management 😂
This is just an example. For context I’ve had 18 jobs in total throughout my career, not all contracts. I’ve only been in 1 job for longer than 2 years, 2 for almost 2 years, the rest are generally a couple months.
I don’t know where you live but where I am, contractors are put in roles with the intention that they’ll go full time most of the time but they need to understand their need within the business first and use it as an argument point for funding if it is needed. The intention is to keep them because you’re still having to invest that time in training them and paying them at a higher rate. I’ve personally been hired in management roles as a contractor so I wouldn’t say no one will hire you for that (probably differs where you’re from). We also have director roles here that are on a contract basis (depends on the industry though).
The whole point of the video though is to be more open minded to the times and not discredit people because you’re assuming something based on them job hopping. If someone is jumping it can be for so many reasons not just because they're useless 😂. I originally started doing contract roles because I was still figuring out what I wanted to do so I got to experience different environments, people, cultures, ways of management, work. You really never know you’ll like something until you do it. Then it just became the norm and I’ll never go back to full time 😂 (that’s just me personally though).
P.s. a useless manager wouldn’t admit that so I’m sure you’re one of the good ones 😂
@@fiveheadedlady I agree with most of what you're saying, and under contract work I think it makes sense. I don't judge the work mercs. I just don't like it for me lol. I mostly objected to the original video because its bad advice without qualifying the conditions that support it. The next Gen workforce chasing money won't understand why they are high risk for positions when stability is sought after. I ask questions to assess what kind of work style they want. Preferences change, but most of what I see they are not sure where they "fit" and do lots of jobs.
Worked in IT for like 15 years…had probably two dozen jobs, a lot of them brief contract stints…worked in a lot of places, different industries, different ways of doing things…and learned a LOT more than if I’d been at 2-3 jobs. HR people are among the worst types of thinkers you could bring into a company-they always play to not lose instead of playing to win, so they find and create more problems than they ever solve, which holds progress back constantly. They also get hung up on credentials when they are easily obtained and completely not indicative of whether someone can actually do the work. You can teach skills, but you can’t teach interest, enthusiasm, or especially conscientiousness and authenticity to someone who thinks they already know stuff. I worked with a lot of people with credentials out the wazoo who were useless, while the smartest and hardest working people typically had no degree and no college at all. HR should just stick to explaining benefits to new hires and maybe background checks just before an offer is made. Otherwise, they’re an impediment.
"You can teach skills, but you can’t teach interest, enthusiasm, or especially conscientiousness and authenticity" THIS!!! I absolutely love and support that statement. I feel the same too, I would have never have learned and grown as much as I did if I stayed in one place. I've had about 18 jobs in total (roughly speaking haha) and it looks like a lot but the experience from each of them has been invaluable and so handy.
But I hop between projects within company and usually new project is like a complete new company because usually they are in different countries
Ooo travel I love that!
Right. "Job hopping" does not include contract workers and your video is therefor pointless.
It does actually. Job hopping is changing jobs very often and when you've had 18 of them, some full time which were left after 2-3 months, some contracts which weren't completed full term, and some that went for under a couple years, then I would consider that job hopping. You're welcome to think otherwise that's fine 😃.
@@fiveheadedladyI do think otherwise.
@@cyberfist6568No worries 😊 disagreements are healthy
strange to be in that position talking about something like this in that clothing... that's like the man equilivan that oil my chest and be on the bench press with a towel on
If you’re sexualising something that’s not sexual that’s a you problem
oblivious to the subtle dance of delusion that cloaked her content in the allure of innocence while baring the truth of its underlying sensuality @@fiveheadedlady
@@powerman2610 It's fat and muscle on my chest, I don't see the hype for boobs personally but if someone is easily 'pleased' by this then good for them, pathetic, but each to their own. I'm not here to watch my every move because some stranger on the internet finds something sexual. Again, that's a you problem and I don't give a fxck 🤣
Obvious there's truth to what I orignally said otherwise you wouldn't have commented. Perception is reality to the viewer. @@fiveheadedlady
I would rather laugh at your video
Thanks please do :)