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  • @stainless10fp13
    @stainless10fp13 Год назад +17

    This should be re titled. It may help with spin, but as a newer player really struggling to figure out back hand power, this video appears to be a game changer for me.
    I’ve been playing 2 years, last year I played forehand only and I’ve gotten quite well with it. This year, I made a plan to figure out how to throw backhand. I’ve watched all of the videos, ALL OF THEM!
    I’ve made improvements to my form and power, but I think 235 feet was my max distance.
    I stumbled upon this video late last night, I thought about it through the day and couldn’t wait to get home today to try it.
    I threw 5 stand still throws using your 90 degree elbow advice. I threw 5 discs without moving my body at all, just arms and it sucked.
    I threw 5 more allowing my body to rotate, and I was shocked at the distance I was getting with such little effort.
    I then added my walk up and X step and I ripped 3 of my 5 discs over 300 feet for the first time in my life! My new max distance is 311 feet now.! This was only with about 30 minutes of practice and about 25 throws.
    Than you so much for this tip, it appears to have answered so many questions for me. It really just taught me how my arm movement should be.
    Awesome advice!

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Dude that’s super freaken awesome to hear, yea the 90 degrees doesn’t go great for distance but it helped me feel the snap/whip. Really that’s so cool to have that kind of result. Super happy for you. Keep up the good work, also one last thing….. What would you have titled it.. just curious???

    • @stainless10fp13
      @stainless10fp13 Год назад +1

      @@DiscManiac28 I was joking more than anything about the title. This drill has just done the best job of any video at showing me the way to throw a disc. I was always rounding, trying to muscle the disc and just being inconsistent.
      I’m 50 years old, been playing this game for 2 years now and I never grew up throwing a frisbee and never really developed a method. I’ve been struggling to get any kind of consistent power or arm speed. My 16 year old son has been playing 2 years as well, he’s been throwing over 400 feet most of this summer just by figuring it out all on his own, it’s come easy to him, but grasping the entire concept has been more difficult for me.
      Your video just seems to have unlocked the little missing piece I needed.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      @@stainless10fp13 ok sweet got ya, I love sarcasm but it’s hard to tell sometimes in text lol but that’s super awesome to hear glad it’s helping

    • @JeremyBurnett
      @JeremyBurnett 5 месяцев назад +1

      I’m stuck at the 250ish zone myself. Your comment is encouraging. I’ll be testing it this weekend!

    • @stainless10fp13
      @stainless10fp13 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@JeremyBurnett here we are almost 1 year later, and I still tell people to watch this video for this reason. I suppose it depends on what you’re doing wrong, for me, it helped me correct what I was doing wrong.
      Don’t get me wrong, I still suck and have a lot of room to improve. I can just throw inaccurately at a greater distance now 😂

  • @SmallsTheKid
    @SmallsTheKid Год назад +7

    This is a refreshing video. A lot of people just copy and paste tips. I’m not a “beginner” and feel like I could take something from this. Good stuff man keep it up

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Thanks a bunch, it’s great to hear this kinda stuff:)

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Im glad you can take some stuff from it

  • @ddbronco1873
    @ddbronco1873 Год назад +27

    I’m definitely going to try this. New to disc golf and I’m 57 with a worn out baseball shoulder but I’m not giving up lol

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +2

      Good for you… on not giving up, not the shoulder thing, it has seemed to help me with the act of getting rotation on the disc, took some time but it’s helped me in long run

    • @rickfunk1355
      @rickfunk1355 Год назад +5

      I'm 70 with 2 artificial hips and a bad shoulder, been playing for a couple of years but can only get them out to about 250 feet, probably due to my age and lack of rotation.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +6

      @@rickfunk1355 250 ain’t bad with age and hip stuff going on, flexibility is a big deal but it’s so much form and technique that gets ya the extra distance

    • @bgilliam008
      @bgilliam008 Год назад +3

      I’ve got shoulder stuff because of baseball as well…that’s why I backhand about 95% of my shots if not 99% in reality lol

    • @Chris.Davies
      @Chris.Davies 11 месяцев назад

      Psst: ruclips.net/video/3RQtZooOuTI/видео.html

  • @chadsamsel5127
    @chadsamsel5127 Год назад +6

    This helped me a ton. My throws are coming out with lots more spin and I am hitting my lines and angles a lot cleaner and more consistently.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Dude that’s fantastic, great to hear, glad it’s helping:)

  • @webbpederson7442
    @webbpederson7442 4 месяца назад +2

    This tip came just in time. I’m 63 and have 6 mos in…trying to shorten the learning curve. Will help me tons. Thanks

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  4 месяца назад +2

      @@webbpederson7442 sweet, good to hear

  • @larryvaughn327
    @larryvaughn327 9 месяцев назад +2

    Paul McBeth does this the most pronounced of all the other players on tour, but all do it to some degree.

  • @Digital_Perm
    @Digital_Perm 6 месяцев назад +2

    Dude. You have amazing form and inner core strength.
    I like how your “arming” it as one coach put it.
    You made 300+ feet look so easy.
    Great video. Thanks for making it. !

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks man, much appreciated, your welcome 🤗

  • @rman713
    @rman713 4 месяца назад +1

    Excellent video. I subconsciously picked up on the pull in / wrist snap motion from watching Paul but you articulated it perfectly I think.

  • @Christopher-hh8iq
    @Christopher-hh8iq Год назад +3

    At first, I tried just whipping my hand, and I thought I might snap my wrist in half. Then I watched the rest of the video. I've been working a lot on my form this fall, but more from a sustainability mindset. I'm pushing 40 and want to be playing for another 4 decade, so my form re-tooling is centered around longevity. I think this concept will fit nicely in my approach to the game.
    Well said, all around. Now to go ice my wrist.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Thanks, yea it definitely snaps the wrist but it helped me feel it in a different way. Glad it helps

    • @Chris.Davies
      @Chris.Davies 11 месяцев назад

      PSST: ruclips.net/video/3RQtZooOuTI/видео.html

  • @mccsnackin
    @mccsnackin Год назад +2

    I started a “out in out” backhand throw this year and it really helped with consistent hit point and release. Saved a lot of strokes in the woods.

  • @esakakkuri7131
    @esakakkuri7131 5 месяцев назад +4

    This is absolytely amazing!!
    Now one can't explain this so far..even I ask meny time for some pro's. Spin and speed..angel of start position, release moment. This explain everything!!
    I'm gonna try this sure and I'am so exiting when I can throw nex time..with You advise!!
    Thank Yoy so much!! :)🤩

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  5 месяцев назад +2

      @@esakakkuri7131 very welcome, it’s a great step in right direction

  • @JeremyBurnett
    @JeremyBurnett 5 месяцев назад +2

    This is the first video I’ve seen from you. Just started playing this year. And I’ve watched form videos for over a month now. This is probably the easiest explanation of this form I’ve seen. Cannot wait to test it on Saturday when I go play with my son. (Also just picked up the sport) I’ll come back and comment the results. PR (2014 Heat Ace Race prototype) 252

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  5 месяцев назад +2

      Ok sweet glad to hear, I’m addicted to playing love it all. Hope it helps ya on the course :)

    • @stainless10fp13
      @stainless10fp13 5 месяцев назад +2

      I couldn’t agree more. This is the video that helped my timing and form more than any other video I’ve seen, and watched quite a few trying. Something about the
      I started out playing a few years ago and I could only throw forehand, my back hand was awful. My shoulder and elbow were getting so sore, a had to learn a new way to continue playing. I rarely throw forehand unless I have to now and my body appreciates it.

  • @Halkokki
    @Halkokki 6 месяцев назад +1

    omg your my hero! 3 years disc golf behind and today was first time i felt the real snap

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  6 месяцев назад +1

      That’s awesome man, glad to here it, it’s a great feeling :)

  • @pallew
    @pallew 7 месяцев назад +4

    8 in back to 10, so catchy, thanks man 🙏🏻

  • @domgriffindiscgolf9131
    @domgriffindiscgolf9131 10 месяцев назад +1

    Great video and explanation! I’ve felt something like this and seen similar videos but this clarified it visually for me a little better. Going to try it today!

  • @TwoOneSe7en
    @TwoOneSe7en Год назад +3

    Best example of this on the Pro Tour (IMO) is Ezra Robinson. That dude nails your “8 in, back to 10” philosophy phrase on a high level.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      I’ll have to watch him throw more closely. I’ll give it a look

  • @cjones2479
    @cjones2479 9 месяцев назад +3

    This works. There’s a YT channel where the guy has developed an entire system that he sells that teaches you this. He has drills for it, etc. he calls it the slingshot method.

  • @jgundlach44
    @jgundlach44 3 месяца назад +1

    I thought this was an ad for MSNBC -- good vid man!!
    Thanks

  • @yaelsanmartin8022
    @yaelsanmartin8022 10 месяцев назад +1

    Definitely going to be trying the 8 to in to 10 this Sunday to see how it works for me🙌🏼

  • @travispuckett333
    @travispuckett333 Год назад +1

    great job. I can't wait to try this tomorrow. great content. keep it up

  • @Minimaker-eq7en
    @Minimaker-eq7en Год назад +1

    Yes this helped to pull the disc in and then out . I can get consistent snap on the disc and I think its because the motion helps to lead with the elbow. Half the snap seems like its in the elbow and the other half in the wrist. I do my normal reach back but then pull the disc in first. Thx for the tip.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Very welcome glad you gained from video :)

  • @RBadding
    @RBadding Год назад +1

    Gotta try that spinning tip. I've been struggling at 300 ft for a year already. Tried it as a dry-run in the room and it felt good..Thanks!

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      Welcome :) hope it works for ya.

    • @RBadding
      @RBadding Год назад +1

      ​@@DiscManiac28I think it did - my max is now 350 ft and my average went also up. What a great tip. It really seemed to help quite a bit. Thanks! 🙏
      Of course I still have a long way to go but I'm improving now.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      @@RBadding very welcome glad it helped. That’s so cool to hear :)

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      @@RBadding improvement is great place to be, hitting new distances feels so good

  • @GeorgeArthurJr
    @GeorgeArthurJr Год назад +5

    I subscribed instantly just because of your ridiculous stretching warm up routine. It's hilarious and I love it. Loving this guy. Keep it up my good man. The genuine amusement at the catchy jingle is one of my favorite things I've seen on RUclips. If you're ever in the Houston area, let's get in a round! 8 IN BACK TO 10 BABY!!

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      I sure will, thanks for commenting. I’m glad I could make you laugh, lol I try to have some good points and laughs along the way. If I’m ever that way I’m 100% down for a round with new people in new places always. Thanks for positive response

    • @GeorgeArthurJr
      @GeorgeArthurJr Год назад +1

      @@DiscManiac28 You're welcome buddy. I freaking love that humor style and just totally a chill vibe. Looking forward to anything you put out in the future. If the weather is good for me tomorrow evening, I'm going to try out this 8 IN BACK TO 10 idea and report back. You've got a fan out of me for life buddy. Take care.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +2

      @@GeorgeArthurJr dude that’s fantastic love to hear it all. Maybe one if best compliments I’ve gotten , Let me know how it goes, it took me a minute to get used to it but it’s great once I got it down

    • @GeorgeArthurJr
      @GeorgeArthurJr Год назад +1

      Dude. I think this trick works. Tried it today and hit 295, my furthest drive on this one hole at a local course. That’s my maximum I’ve ever thrown so far that I’ve been able to measure. I’m gonna keep trying this out but I think you’re on to something! 8 IN BACK TO 10!

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      @@GeorgeArthurJr super awesome man, that’s always a great feeling to hit new distances records, super happy for ya and glad the video helps:) keep it up 👍

  • @clintsawyer7702
    @clintsawyer7702 Год назад +4

    Slingshot Disc Golf says something along those lines, instead of pulling straight line through the power pocket like has been taught forever, the disc moves more like a V, coming into the chest and back out.

    • @ViJt-oq5nq
      @ViJt-oq5nq Год назад +1

      It do move in a V, but it can also move in a pretty straight line if you've got flexibility in the hips for it.
      I was watching Eagle reach out, and his hips were turned so much it looked more like he was reaching back, then when he spins, its getting pulled along a straight line into his chest, then out again along the same line.
      I've been working a lot on getting my legs and hips into my spin and have been noticing my flexibility is getting better and has been throwing off my aim and finding my disc is moving more and more along a straight line while going out in out.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      I like slingshot discgolf learned a lot form him

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      I think I’ve heard him talk about in and out

  • @TheLeifington
    @TheLeifington 6 месяцев назад +1

    Really like what you touched on here! It makes a lot of sense to me

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks hope it translates to the course for ya:)

  • @Cad1900
    @Cad1900 Год назад +1

    I’ve gotta try this when the weather breaks around here. It’s exactly the move Will makes.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      It helped me a lot understanding putting spin on it

    • @Cad1900
      @Cad1900 Год назад +1

      @@DiscManiac28 the first time I saw Rickey and Paul in person I could not believe how much spin their drives have. It’s insane. They go 450’ + and when they land it looks like a spinning top twirling around on the ground. I think my spin stops at about 90% of the throw 😂

  • @alanlundberg4534
    @alanlundberg4534 Год назад +1

    Nice look at a different approach. Thanks.

  • @Audiot4pe
    @Audiot4pe 7 месяцев назад +1

    I'm going to give this a try. I just started playing a little over a month ago, and when I go out playing with experienced players I get a little frustrated that I am always throwing really short compared to them. I need all the help I can get to build up that distance as much as I can!

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  7 месяцев назад +2

      It was a good stepping stone for me to understand on my form/distance journey

    • @Audiot4pe
      @Audiot4pe 7 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@DiscManiac28I was throwing earlier and this technique really helped my form. I had no rounding and was hitting ~250' consistently. I've really improved significantly from throwing just over 150' back in late February, when I first started. This is another tool in the toolbag to help me along. Thanks a ton!!

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  7 месяцев назад

      @@Audiot4pe welcome glad to hear the improvements :) 👍

  • @dustinburgin9740
    @dustinburgin9740 Год назад +2

    Great video! Overthrow Disc Golf talks about getting into the "deep pocket" I think it's the same concept but with a different approach.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Possibly, I’ll have to check it out on their channel, I know I’ve seen drew Gibson in slo Mo from above and he goes out, in and back out, I think it was on overthrow channel

  • @bobbyanderson7133
    @bobbyanderson7133 5 месяцев назад +1

    I just watched this video and have my own experience with the technique you show. I've only been playing a couple of months and i'm a big guy (6'3/240) with a big chest and broad shoulders, so a lot of the techniques i've seen do not work well for me because I need more space in the front to clear my chest. Rounding is a big issue for me because of this. I throw stand still exclusively because it reduces the variables that could go wrong for me. Through trial and error (and a lot of frustration), I found that reaching out like you demonstrate is about the only way I can throw with any accuracy. I see the pros almost reaching back to 5 o clock and at the very last second of their pull, they bring everything together in the power pocket. I can't do that lol. I reach back to around 7:00-7:30 and pull diagonally into my chest before continuing to pull straight through on the line between my front foot and target. It's accurate enough. I just need to build more distance. My best throws (with mids) are only 230', and that's pretty disappointing considering how big I am, but I guess size and strength only matter as much as you can direct them into the throw mechanics.
    Great video and if I hadn't worked through some of these issues already, this would've fixed most of my rounding issues! I wish I would've found it 2 months ago!

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  5 месяцев назад

      Thanks for feed back, yea with your size you should be able to throw further for sure, you’re right it’s all in the mechanics but you have the frame to throw far

  • @GeneralKetchup57
    @GeneralKetchup57 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great Video! I never separated spin and speed. Anxious to give it a try and love the rhyme:)

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks, some people have benefited from it, it was a good step for me, hopefully it will be for you too🤞

  • @facethanatos
    @facethanatos Год назад +3

    good video, slingshot has a video called Tip of the Whip 1:50 mark which reminds me of what you're talking about.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Sweet, I’ll check it out I’ve watched a lot of his videos but don’t remember that one,

  • @damagi123
    @damagi123 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great stuff man. Like your energy

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  6 месяцев назад +1

      Thank you, it’s nice to hear :)

  • @nbwall56
    @nbwall56 Год назад +1

    Maniac, this looks very interesting. I'm gonna give it a try. I volunteered at the Beaver State Fling this year. I followed the lead card. I was completely blown away with the spins Garrett, Calvin, and Eagle had on the end of 500 foot teeshots. Their disc's would spin on the grass at about 500 rpm. It was unbelievable. I do think you are on to something.
    You seem like a really good guy. What part of the country do you live. Best regards, Norm from tigard oregon.

  • @OkieTradez
    @OkieTradez Год назад +1

    your 4th shot looked to be released at 10.30 so that was great but still try what i suggested where you dont actively use your arm to slingshot but let your other side of your body make the slingshot work and only actively use that wrist on the OUT part of the swing and obviously follow through on the same angle for FLIGHT INTEGRITY .. but youve learned the secret of the slingshot no doubt now just time to perfect it which is the journey im on as well! i can hyzer flip a destroyer to about 430ft i can get it to go 30ft further if thrown flat etc.

  • @bgilliam008
    @bgilliam008 Год назад +1

    Great video! Good info and love the camera angles! Keep it up! 🔥🔥🔥

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      Thanks:) on the quest for 500 ft lol 😂

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Only 27 ft away

    • @bgilliam008
      @bgilliam008 Год назад +1

      @@DiscManiac28 oh you’re getting there within 2-3 months for sure.

  • @discsmd
    @discsmd Год назад +1

    I believe both Robbie C and Josh at Overthrow talk about the angle of the disc in relation to your body in your backswing. I talk about it on my channel some as well. I found that most of my spin comes maintaining strict wrist curl through the throw and not actively whipping the disc with my wrist.
    That's the great thing about disc golf. So many approaches. I'll give it a shot and see what happens. Thanks for the vid.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      Welcome I’ll try what you have talked about as well. Thanks for feedback 😊

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +2

      I remember hearing them say out-in-out but never really gave a number on the clock except 10 o clock on release. I thought I would mention 8 and see if that helped some people out, :)

    • @discsmd
      @discsmd Год назад +1

      @@DiscManiac28 Gotcha, you are probably right, They may not be specific. In one of my earlier vids I say a number. So we are better than them....LOL. j/k I love Robbie C and Josh is my coach...hope he doesn't read this.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      @@discsmd I like both of them for sure, I’ve learned from both lol 😂

  • @Chris.Davies
    @Chris.Davies 11 месяцев назад +3

    OK, so you have *almost* come to an independent discovery of what is called "Spin and Throw" form, which is what the pros have been doing for decades - except they add a useless "reachback" which hurts their distance. (This is why Simon doesn't reach back. No need!)
    In Spin & Throw form, the shoulder does not move in the throwing motion (it only moves after the disc is ejected). It is locked at 90 degrees to the chest - poking straight out in front of you. The upper body motion in a disc golf power shot only involves the elbow and the wrist. The elbow closes automatically as the reverse rotation stops, and the player must close their wrist appropriately (timing!) so that the disc pivots around the wrist and levers out of the hand. And so the disc comes to the left side of the chest (the "power pocket") and then the rotating torso (using your back foot, and turning your toes towards the ground as fast as you possibly can) literally throws your elbow open.
    No muscles are used to open the elbow or the wrist, and so the ejection point is defined by the form.
    The arm is used as a genuine whip, and torso rotation rate becomes the single deciding factor in how far you can throw a disc.
    Head on over to Brad's amazing channel: Spin & Throw.
    Here is the first of a 40-video playlist which will teach you the heretical science of Spin & Throw.
    ruclips.net/video/3RQtZooOuTI/видео.html
    You will throw further, be more accurate, and you won't be exhausted at the end of a big day of disc golf, I guarantee it. This is a non-injurious form you will be able to use into your 80s.

  • @southern-dad
    @southern-dad Год назад +3

    I’ve played with this for flat releases. I’ve found it to be more of a timing thing. It makes sure that the disc sits in front of the trailing arm. Insures that deep pocket. Though really it’s almost always turns into a wide rail but from an upright position (thus flat release). Just my personal findings.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      I got ya, I’ve heard someone else talk about a wide rail.. I’m gonna have to look it up

  • @rageoid
    @rageoid Год назад +2

    Solid idea. Have not seen the first idea presented quite that way. Like the concept, but gotta make sure the pop isn't my elbow or shoulder on a dry fire ! Eric Oakley form.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Lol yea not sure what made me do it that way just thought I would share and see if it got good results

  • @blake8210
    @blake8210 Год назад +1

    One of my favorite shirts.
    Great video too btw!

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Oh thanks, I like it, I’m gonna have to get more disc golf related shirts lol 😂

  • @KhufuhK
    @KhufuhK Год назад +4

    Potholders work great for indoors motion practice

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Never would have thought of that, thanks for tip. :)

  • @elliotJones-s4l
    @elliotJones-s4l 3 месяца назад +1

    im 3 weeks into disk golf, and im addicted 😊

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  3 месяца назад +2

      @@elliotJones-s4l when you throw a shot and it does exactly what you intended and see the flight of the disc, that’s when I new I was gonna love the game. And that was all she wrote to get me hooked lol

  • @kennykwong1028
    @kennykwong1028 11 месяцев назад +1

    The part where you say holding the disc out in front and pulling it inwards. Paul Mcbeth has talked about that a lot. Its like a figure skaters when they want faster RPM they pull their arms in to speed up. That is what paul McBeth calls the power pocket.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  11 месяцев назад

      Yea that’s exactly how I try to explain it to people having a hard time getting spin. Good points

  • @leopard3131
    @leopard3131 11 месяцев назад +3

    This is a great insight.
    FYI / history Danny Lindahl covered this in several of his content videos. Another older term for this is the wide rail.
    Jumping to modern content creators check out sling shot disc golf.

  • @Ballovirta
    @Ballovirta Год назад +1

    This is exactly what i been working on the past month. When I get it timed correctly with my run up i throw far. And i hit more gaps when I do this. But its hard. It worl 7 out of 10 throws i want that number to be atleast 9/10

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      I hear ya…I still have problems releasing it out, old habits trying to break, but I totally get it, when I get ahold of one I can definitely feel it. I’ve gotten more power for sure…. Still trying to hone in accuracy, I’m decent with accuracy but can be so much better.. I’ve also came along way form a year ago so that’s a good thing, as long as your improving that’s a good thing.

    • @Ballovirta
      @Ballovirta Год назад +1

      @@DiscManiac28 in my mind this is what people refer as the power pocket. I might be wrong but when i get into it i get more power effortless. I love your channel theres no bull shit you go directly on the point. One thing i struggle with at the moment is my brace leg. So you have any tips or drills?

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      @@Ballovirta r u falling over your front foot? Or Having a hard time keeping your weight back

    • @Ballovirta
      @Ballovirta Год назад

      @@DiscManiac28 im mostly falling over sometimes when I try to not fall over I lean back instead ( i dont feel the power from the brace)

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      @@Ballovirta got ya, the best way I can describe it is a left handed baseball swing, as far as lower body goes, it’s the closest representation I can think of, I need to post a video about it because it’s the thing I struggled the most at, took me so long to get it down, I still can find myself at times slightly falling forward but way better than I used to. I did a lot of “Stand Stills” trying to keep my weight back slightly but mostly centered and it seemed to help me a lot

  • @TheButlerNZ
    @TheButlerNZ Год назад +1

    Made me think of something to try... Instead of curling my (right handed backhand) throwing wrist anti clockwise on the '8 in' ...
    I want to try something non-intuitive and try wrist clockwise... and see if (with it loose enough) at the end of the 'IN' I can get it to bounce on the anti-clockwise extremity, giving further clockwise rotation on the 'back to 10' (just an experiment... I don't expect much from it but I need to loosen up...)
    I need to have a little play at doing near nothing with my outer arm, using my shoulder and elbow to play trebuchet with my outer... because at the mo I think I'm muscling my arm, tensing it up and ruining any hope of passing my current 330ft...
    so much to think about.. until I don't need to think about it...
    for me I also found a crow hop was helpful in getting the cross step out of my head...
    Of course, like so many driving videos forget to mention... actually getting it in the basket outside the 10ft mark is more important than throwing it 400 ft... and I'm so used to hooking in a put with my pig, I'm having to muscle learn how to throw a straight putter... and I keep expecting it to fade in like the pig... sigh.
    (The pig is fun tho for making these weird "amazing" puts that look high and wide, only for it to turn and stall into the basket at the last minute..... but usually just ends up as a "good upshot" instead of what should be a good put...

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      I had a problem with being to tight a few years ago it all eventually came together and loosened up, it’s funny you mention putting with a pig, I used to put with a jawbreaker “zone” I did a extreme spin out and the zone worked for me, it was harder at longer distances because of the glide, but great for headwinds. Lol I ended up switching my putting stile and switched putters about a year ago or so. Thanks for comment, let me know how it goes

    • @TheButlerNZ
      @TheButlerNZ Год назад +1

      @@DiscManiac28 I managed a 101ft "Put" on a local uphill par 5... that I also managed on another day to par with Pig Only.. (in fact my course best (-4) was the round with only the pig... hmmmm
      (We have a unique corse just over the hill from me.. Berhampore New Zealand... Its on a hillside Golf course.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      @@TheButlerNZ that’s pretty good I would say for pig only, 101 ft put is always sweet to see go in, it makes me super excited to see whether it’s me or someone else.

    • @TheButlerNZ
      @TheButlerNZ Год назад

      ​@@DiscManiac28 Putting a pig at distance is fun for the watchers as it goes (for me) straight, high, and way off to the right, only for it to stall at the last minute and head 45deg at the basket. I need to video it before I stop doing it...

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +2

      @@TheButlerNZ yea better get it on film, lol

  • @Michaellove85
    @Michaellove85 Год назад +1

    I will be trying this thanks

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Sweet, let me know how it works for ya

  • @sonquizzon
    @sonquizzon Год назад +2

    You just found the Matt Orum style. Look up slow motion of him. I use it on shorter drives and mids when I need a nice straight shot. If it works for you keep it up!

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Sweet, I’ll have to look him up on slow motion, never noticed it

  • @crabbyjimmy1
    @crabbyjimmy1 Год назад +1

    I’ve been doing this with a small skip and it’s impressive.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Ok, I never would have thought of that, that would be cool to see! 😊

  • @OkieTradez
    @OkieTradez Год назад +2

    whats popping is your fingers snapping together but this IS the secret to disc golf.. theres an old video that teaches this drill Dan Beto 2.0 i think its called but now that youve got the slingshot or snap instead of actively using your arm to make it slingshot now instead use your back leg "by turning in" and off arm "by pushing down" let that intiate and sling your arm and only at the laaaast second actively use your wrist on the throwing arm and thats how you get effortless 400+ shots imo..

  • @unfixedcardinal9422
    @unfixedcardinal9422 3 месяца назад +1

    Do u think this would also improve the forehand

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  3 месяца назад +1

      @@unfixedcardinal9422 not sure haven’t thought about forehand in that way, I’m not so sure that it will

  • @D3w4yne
    @D3w4yne Год назад +3

    I believe Slingshot and Overthrow refer to this as "out-in-out". DG Spindoctor also has mentioned this to prevent rounding like you mentioned.
    I tried this style of "reach out" with my tech disc and immediately saw +150-200 rpm. Hitting just under 1300 and my normal is about 1100.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Sweet, that’s nice, I haven’t checked my RPM but would love to know where I’m at so I can see what needs to be improved

  • @ConsensusReality
    @ConsensusReality Год назад +1

    nice job ... thanks

  • @codyhall1636
    @codyhall1636 Год назад +1

    Great Tips Man

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Thank you, I’m hoping to get some new videos out soon but been so busy lately I hate that I haven’t be able to make videos like I used to

    • @codyhall1636
      @codyhall1636 Год назад +2

      @@DiscManiac28 Hey man, make em as you can. We'll be here :D.

  • @nyqpi33
    @nyqpi33 Год назад +2

    That form is very similar to eric oakley. He keeps it ar about 9 oclock rather than 8 for his back extention angle.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Yea he holds the disc straight in front of him at 9 for while

  • @Big_C_Here
    @Big_C_Here Год назад +1

    I’ll add this to the bag of tricks to try out tomorrow and report back to you.

  • @OkieTradez
    @OkieTradez Год назад +1

    your third shot from my view looked to be released at 11:30 still rounded imo likely bcuz on the outward part of throw you use your elbow and the elbow shouldnt be used at all

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      All good points, I did release the last ones later than 10 for sure, I’m still working on it but I can tell when I do it right, I can for sure feel the snap.

  • @wasteoftimegames
    @wasteoftimegames 7 месяцев назад +1

    Yooo btw this changed my game. And now after two years I’m finally able to throw back hand

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  7 месяцев назад +1

      lol that’s awesome! Glad it helped, it’s was a big change for me also

  • @Dubergomezfonseca
    @Dubergomezfonseca Месяц назад +1

    I'm more confused now. A good friend introduced me to disc golf, and I’ve been playing for about a month and a half. Honestly, I struggle with every throw I make, but I'm hooked on the game. I’ve started to understand a lot of the concepts, but one of them is about not "releasing" the disc-it’s supposed to snap. However, you mentioned releasing it at 10, which changes everything. So, should I actually be releasing the disc, or is it supposed to snap out of my hand on its own?

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Месяц назад +2

      @@Dubergomezfonseca I can see how it can definitely be confusing, it does snap out of the hand some have auditable sound when the disc come out and some don’t but when I’m referring to release point it’s when the disc exits you hand…. Not really manually releasing it it just releases on its own! Does that make sense? I just try to point my hand towards a specific point in time with the force and speed it too much for disc to stay in hand and it should be around 11 o clock

    • @Dubergomezfonseca
      @Dubergomezfonseca Месяц назад +1

      ​@@DiscManiac28 That makes perfect sense now. I think I've been "releasing" at 12, and yes, I keep hitting the first tree on my right. I do well in open spaces where there are no obstacles, but I’ll keep working on my form and will definitely use your tips. Thank you very much!

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Месяц назад +2

      @ welcome something that helped me was not over rotating cause I used to always pull it to the right. If your pulling it that could also be a factor.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Месяц назад +2

      My video on “slow down your shoulders speed up your arm” may help with that

    • @CommentingPeople
      @CommentingPeople Месяц назад +1

      ​@Dubergomezfonseca There are a ton of "gurus" in the disc golf scene on YT. Some have really great advice and some peddle "bro science" that screws your game. I don't know which this guy is, but he says "release at 10 o'clock" and then every throw he makes is released at 12 and 1. Not trying to throw shade but don't tell me one thing then show me another. This exercise may help some figure out how to put spin on the disc but it's really bad form.
      Your disc should travel in a straight line the entire time you're touching it. Imagine sliding/dragging the disc on a 2x4 aimed where you want it to go. Your goal is for it to leave your hand at the last point it can along that board, whatever "o'clock" that is for you. The release is more about timing. You're "releasing" late due to one or more of a myriad of different reasons but ultimately it boils down to your hand not traveling fast enough to rip the disc from your hand at the desired point. Try this during your next field day: Take your fastest driver, grip the snot out of it and throw it as hard as you can. Then take that same driver, grip it as lightly as you can, and throw it just as hard. You'll notice one releases late, if at all, and the other releases early. Now, your job is to figure out where in between those extremes the disc rips out where you want it to. Your grip strength is going to be different for each shot and is tied to 2 other choices you make: disc choice and how hard you want to throw it. Hope this helps!

  • @ScottSmith-vc5vf
    @ScottSmith-vc5vf Год назад +1

    I’ll give it a try

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      May work for you may not but I hope it helps, it seemed to help me with spin and spacing

  • @chrispowell6578
    @chrispowell6578 10 месяцев назад +1

    8 to 10 👍

  • @thompson222
    @thompson222 Год назад +1

    @5:14 that was a nice solid 150 footer

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      It was, super blasted… lol no it was a horrible throw

    • @thompson222
      @thompson222 Год назад +1

      @@DiscManiac28 No no it was great for a full power drive. You'd do fine in baby league.
      (I'm just messing with u btw)

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      @@thompson222 that’s hilarious, I love it so much, you may have made my night with sarcasm it’s me to a “T” it’s hard to see it in messages but love it anyway

  • @Two_Buck
    @Two_Buck Год назад +1

    Genius.

  • @seanbinder8316
    @seanbinder8316 Год назад +1

    Some crushes I'm going to 8 to 10 it out there from now on.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      Thanks it took some time but seems to work for me

  • @datrucksdavea2080
    @datrucksdavea2080 Год назад +1

    Cool, ty

  • @tylerorange6856
    @tylerorange6856 Год назад +1

    How far are you throwing?

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Last week I hit my personal best, 473 prolly average mid 400’s

    • @tylerorange6856
      @tylerorange6856 Год назад +1

      lol dang lot further then me mid 350ish here can’t get the 400s lol

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      @@tylerorange6856 it took me so long to get past 400, but once it happened it all started coming together, lots of practice and watching film, have you filmed yourself?

    • @tylerorange6856
      @tylerorange6856 Год назад +1

      No I haven’t I need to i have a net just always working lol

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +2

      @@tylerorange6856 once I filmed myself it help so much, best thing I did in trying to help my form.

  • @kens1776
    @kens1776 Год назад +1

    I'll try this, I do have smaller hands so spin, for me is a problem

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      It took me some time but i kept practicing it and when it clicked I totally noticed, if it don’t work at first maybe don’t give up at first give it some time. Let me know how it goes,

  • @tomhorne6172
    @tomhorne6172 Год назад +1

    I'll try it

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Worth a shot, it may help, may not but if you feel some whip at least you will know the feeling, it helped me in that since and creating space

  • @MassStash
    @MassStash 6 месяцев назад +1

    This sounds like what the slingshot disc golf guy preaches 🤔. Good stuff potentially but strange throw to me still lol.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  6 месяцев назад +2

      Yea it was strange to me at first but it was a great step in the right direction, my form as changed a little since then but still reach out a little

    • @MassStash
      @MassStash 6 месяцев назад +1

      @@DiscManiac28 kool kool, thanks for the content and tips brutha!

  • @ryaninSartell
    @ryaninSartell Год назад +1

    There isnt a release point on drives. It rips out.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Even if you don’t release disc it’s better to extend slightly out at end

  • @zoskinso3420
    @zoskinso3420 Год назад +1

    8 in, back to 10,
    I can't sing I ain't pretty and my legs are thin. Ba-bomp.
    Is it 10 o'clock relative to the target, or the body? The "clock" is in motion, during walk up (if attached to the body), and not directly at the target line, but to the left. So maybe it IS a 12 o'clock release, relatively speaking? ...
    [E=MC something something...I don't know].
    Good luck. Have Fun. Spare a tree.
    Thanks for the video. Gave you a thumbs up. Didn't sub. Don't make it weird.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Lol no weirdness here, I’m glad you enjoyed video, thanks for comment, yes 10 is relative to target, good question :)

  • @rman713
    @rman713 4 месяца назад +1

    I’ll be honest, releasing at 10 o’clock doesn’t make sense to me… I feel like the disc is coming out at 12 or even 1… maybe you’re feeling the wrist snap at 10?

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  4 месяца назад +2

      @@rman713 it’s was hard for me to get consistent on it coming out at 10 but it definitely needs to come out before 12 for sure. I may have not shown a great example of it but the pros do better. If you watch Gannon Buhr on his back hand video on his channel you can see it real well. But he reaches back to about 6 O’clock pretty good video to watch

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  4 месяца назад

      @@rman713 ruclips.net/video/6FpgMkTjS-s/видео.htmlsi=_rLKnBWwQwkcM8PH

    • @rman713
      @rman713 4 месяца назад

      @@DiscManiac28 thanks!!

  • @Mister-Coach-K
    @Mister-Coach-K Год назад +1

    Algorithm commment 📀📀📀

  • @seabas22
    @seabas22 Год назад +1

    Good drill, but this has definitely been talked about by others, aka wide rail.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      Ok, I’ve seen similar stuff, I’ll check out wide rail

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      I haven’t seen the reach out straight in front of yourself

  • @samhowl1152
    @samhowl1152 11 месяцев назад

    Bro how new are you? Literally lots of form videos say this. I can remember one with Drew Gibson right now where he says, "here's what the arm would look like if they're was no rotation in the body. And he goes in and out.
    This is not a revelation

  • @joem8496
    @joem8496 Год назад +1

    Man so many negative comments. I thought this was cool

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      I appreciate it, the negative is what it is, it helped me get more spin on disc and wanted to share it. If it helps people that’s great

    • @joem8496
      @joem8496 Год назад

      @@DiscManiac28 agree, not like you told people this is the only way, you said it helped you. Subscribed!

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      @@joem8496 dude, love it, I try to only mention things that have helped me out and keep it simple. I enjoy making videos and if I can help people along the way why not share what I have learned after 12 years of disc golf

  • @joachimskeppstedt1472
    @joachimskeppstedt1472 Год назад +1

    Hi!
    Shout out from Sweden 🥏
    Thks for your tutorial, it has helped me alot!
    I can finally get spinn om ny disc, it goes superstraight using only the first step of in and out. I will start training just that part first, then move on to coiling and throw.
    You just got yourself a new subscriber ❤️🥏❤️

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +2

      Thanks for feedback much appreciated, thanks for subscribing! :) glad you got something from video

  • @joshuazerubbabel5951
    @joshuazerubbabel5951 Год назад +1

    how about "8 in - out to 10" since you're really not going back to 10 😀

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      Lol I thought of that once I posted it, but I guess because I was going back to ten during demonstration I kept saying it LOL 😂 haha

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад

      That’s funny

  • @lam5161
    @lam5161 Год назад

    A lot of yacking here but nothing specifically about how to get more spin on the disc.

  • @OkieTradez
    @OkieTradez Год назад +2

    your first shot was better actually.. zero pull just arm thus why it flew perfectly straight just not enough height.. second shot you started off correct then pulled and rounded yes and release was closer to 12o clock then 10o clock..

  • @leightaft7763
    @leightaft7763 Год назад +1

    Umm nah 😂
    Thanks but I’ll stick to what people “are” talking about.
    Because it’s worked for pros and trainers for decades.

  • @AnnointedGamer
    @AnnointedGamer Год назад +4

    Another thing i dont hear people discussing is the “release” you shouldn’t actually release the disc. It should rip out of your grip. Thats where all the true speed and spin comes from. I call the “release” point or “hit point” the “pinch point”. I started making a conscious effort to pinch and hold a fairly firm grip. Now I understand why taped fingers are a thing. Hope this helps.

    • @DiscManiac28
      @DiscManiac28  Год назад +1

      It really should be called the point at which the disc leaves your hand.

    • @samhowl1152
      @samhowl1152 11 месяцев назад

      Man y'all must have just started. This is common knowledge. Many form videos tell you not to let go and let the disc pull out. You're not a genius. You're not on top a secret. This is common knowledge.

    • @samhowl1152
      @samhowl1152 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@DiscManiac28no it should be called what it is, disc pivot.