Why Rowan, Scion of War is the Ultimate Rakdos Storm cEDH Commander

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024

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  • @RebellSon
    @RebellSon  Год назад +30

    Just so this is clear. The reduction is only applied to the amount of life lost during activation, and not after.
    Later this video I totally forget about it, but the principles still apply. There’s a claim the firstborn in the deck to untap Rowan if needed.

    • @adamantlotus
      @adamantlotus Год назад +1

      Claim the Firstborn says cmc 3 or less... Rowan is 4 cmc.

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +4

      woops! will fix later@@adamantlotus

    • @adamantlotus
      @adamantlotus Год назад

      @@RebellSonNo problem! I'm sure that there are similar cards that would do the same with 1 or 2 cmc.

    • @adamantlotus
      @adamantlotus Год назад +1

      ​@@RebellSonOkay, did some scryfalling, Wrangle is what we're looking for. It's an Act of Treason effect for 1R that specifies power 4 or less.

    • @ICleeeMan
      @ICleeeMan Год назад +3

      Am I dumb? ROWAN is 3 CMC. No?

  • @MosesSuppose
    @MosesSuppose Год назад +97

    Oh yeah, Rowan is one of the cards that you see and immediately know nearly everyone is going to build it. I personally look forward to necro-ing myself down to 1, activating Rowan, and staring longingly at the cards in exile after realizing my mistake.

  • @piralos1329
    @piralos1329 Год назад +31

    From a more casual viewpoint, Rowan is absolutely absurd with the ability to cast something like Exanguinate for X=30, and you can do it incredibly consistently! If you're paying/losing HUGE amounts of life (10+), you can also use Diabolic Revelation as the worlds most broken tutor! If you've lost 10 life, it's BB to get any 7 cards you want. She's so scary, and honestly the most terrifying part is the sheer consistency of it! A turn 2 Rowan can very easily lead to a T3 win, especially if you have something like Hex Parasite as your life sink. (Also, she makes the cards that are overcosted but make treasures to repay you into rituals with upside!)

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +14

      I'm not sure how you could build Rowan casually, she just seems so powerful! Probably really fun tho

    • @bamby3144
      @bamby3144 Год назад

      I agree with rebell

    • @MrDrewwills
      @MrDrewwills Год назад +3

      @@RebellSon She feels like the Gitrog monster. Yes, you can technically build them casually, but you have to go out of your way not to be broken.

    • @julianalvarez4231
      @julianalvarez4231 Год назад

      Demons would be great casually. Don't get storm shenanigans tho

    • @deathshop2172
      @deathshop2172 Год назад +2

      brass's bounty is essentially a 1 mana ritual for treasures equal to your lands.

  • @gunnarwuher
    @gunnarwuher Год назад +14

    Brewing and building this. Sorry Anje, there's a new rakdos cEDH queen.

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +2

      rip Anje forever stuck as the bad rakdos commander

    • @gunnarwuher
      @gunnarwuher Год назад

      @@RebellSon I love the deck, but it shall stay in 2019.

  • @afjhe718
    @afjhe718 Год назад +7

    Im always so happy when you upload love thiiiis, also amazing deck

  • @unattain4773
    @unattain4773 Год назад +4

    Thanks Rebel! Love your deck tech/theory crafts

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад

      Glad you enjoy it! I'll be making them as I get inspired by new decks!

  • @MrBe56
    @MrBe56 Год назад +2

    Crackle with Rowan is the ultimate flavor win 🔥🔥🔥

  • @IronShinsDicello
    @IronShinsDicello Год назад +5

    For the casual lists(?), Storm King's Thunder is insane with lots of mana reduction. Pet card of mine.

  • @SpectraOcean
    @SpectraOcean Год назад +2

    I gotta tell you, I have absolutely no interest in cEDH, but I still watch these because I still feel like I can learn how to better sequence and play EDH. So thanks for doing these!

    • @SpectraOcean
      @SpectraOcean Год назад

      sorry: I find myself watching them because I ENJOY them, they're good work!

  • @lokumo13
    @lokumo13 Год назад +8

    In Izzet, Vadrik has been my go to for cost reduction storm. This gives me similar vibes while being very different. Will try it out in higher power tables I think with those big explosive spells.

    • @Celadil
      @Celadil Год назад +1

      fellow vadrik player here, he's so good

    • @TeamMD0
      @TeamMD0 Год назад

      @@CeladilI just built a $50 Vadrik deck. It went 2-0 against a pod with a 5k atraxa deck, 1k eldrazi deck and 2 other $500 decks. I was so happy as I’m new to commander.

    • @Celadil
      @Celadil Год назад

      @@TeamMD0 yeah i think mine was like 200 and threatened wins by turn 5 consistently

  • @James-zg7yy
    @James-zg7yy Год назад +5

    You always make great videos! Loved the Nazgul week... A lot. I'm still sitting here hoping you do a Gandalf week covering each Gandalf!

  • @DinoBoy31
    @DinoBoy31 Год назад

    I currently run a Vadrik deck and I absolutely love it. So when I saw this, I knew I had to make it. So excited for this commander

  • @jasonhart543
    @jasonhart543 Год назад

    I love this! Been wanting to dip a toe in cEDH, & really drawn to Rakdos. Rowan & Aftermath Ob Nix look fantastic

  • @Timbuktu-qt2lj
    @Timbuktu-qt2lj Год назад +2

    Awesome deck tech, love this type of content!

  • @infernotitan1158
    @infernotitan1158 Год назад +1

    When I saw Rowan, my mind immediately started whirring. Using things like Eternity Vessel let you drop low, then simply reset while keeping the mana reduction. I'd never even considered Painter's Servant, but oh boy I am now lol

  • @cameton_youtube
    @cameton_youtube Год назад +1

    Really excited for rowan! Looking forward to brewing a casual deck with Auntie Blyte

  • @ziqqylel8388
    @ziqqylel8388 Год назад +1

    Commune with Lava seems like a fun card to put into this deck.

  • @Pinkkittymew
    @Pinkkittymew Год назад +1

    i pulled rowan during prerelease, and even with a ~$35 deck plus card in my collection she's so nutty. its not that uncommon that ill be casting x spells for upwards of 40 playtesting on turn 5

  • @Lasor4
    @Lasor4 Год назад +2

    This card seems SWEET
    Necropotence for 30, tap Rowan, Torment of Hailfire for x=30
    OUPH

  • @hellNo116
    @hellNo116 Год назад +1

    This feels like a selvala deck to me with better card quality. Which sounds like a dream come true. Also less convoluted storm lines 😅

  • @seankeane769
    @seankeane769 Год назад

    As soon as I saw this card spoiled, I knew it was Gona be great… I hope ppl get interested in this and push it far…

  • @mullac0107
    @mullac0107 Год назад +1

    I feel like there are some X spells that could serve as good combo pieces or finishers but make the ad naus a bit less risky / able to go deeper. Something like Fanning the Flames can repeatedly dome people for lots, finale of promise is massive value, consume spirit kills things and gains you life, etc

  • @TheRealRonShady1911
    @TheRealRonShady1911 Год назад +1

    I think we are forgetting Gutshot as a 3 mana reducer for 1 phyrexian mana along with Krirk

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +2

      I actually ended up cutting Gutshot because I don't think this deck will struggle with reducing life by 3, so that card slot can be used for something else. Krrik is kind of interesting.

    • @TheRealRonShady1911
      @TheRealRonShady1911 Год назад

      Also quick question is Sheoldred and wheels viable? Because I'm unsure on the rulings of YOU drawing cards and gaining 2 life will it overly make the effect of Rowan useless?

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +1

      I considered Sheoldred and might put Sheoldred back. The life gain won't negate the life loss, and some lifegain will be useful to not threaten your life total too much, but I don't want to play wheels here at the moment. Arming blue decks to interact with our deck more is worse than opening up more lines to win when the deck is already loaded with wincons and ways to find them.
      @@TheRealRonShady1911

  • @nickbradburry5187
    @nickbradburry5187 Год назад +1

    I mean you can also run a sheoldred, the apocalypse for the draws because you gaining life back is a separate trigger than losing life. So you don’t really have to go down at all if she’s out. You will generally profit with sheoldred it’s unreal

    • @carlosmueller1276
      @carlosmueller1276 11 месяцев назад

      I have sheoldred in my Rowan deck for this reason due to the massive card draw spells and how good it synergies with the one ring . It’s a backup plan to gain back all the life lost in the turn. Then continue to dominate the board .

  • @Dustpuma1
    @Dustpuma1 Год назад +1

    This dude is a great narrator. I love the deck!

  • @nathanaditya1015
    @nathanaditya1015 5 месяцев назад

    i had to rewind when you said mind goblin. i was like “wait did she rlly say mind goblin or am i just stupid”

  • @renatofaria6504
    @renatofaria6504 Год назад

    Hall of the bandit lord seems like something to try out. Casting and immediately tapping her seems pretty good.

  • @MTG_Ronin
    @MTG_Ronin Год назад +2

    This might be a good home for Dance with Calamity. Yet to see it played anywhere. Looks a lot different for 1 Red. Depending on your deck composition. If it’s all high cmc vs x spells. Could be a total dud or the 101st card. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @maxcudlitz2383
    @maxcudlitz2383 10 месяцев назад +1

    Rowan does not continue to discount mana once she has already been tapped though

  • @arrivtuber
    @arrivtuber Год назад +1

    I see a rebel video about storm I klick the video. I am a simple man with simple needs

  • @joedominguez8064
    @joedominguez8064 Год назад

    I pulled two Rowan’s one of each art style from prerelease kit 😂 I play casual commander and have a Greven deck already that’s one of my stronger ones so this’ll be an interesting include

  • @ivernedit
    @ivernedit Год назад

    I’m thinking I’m gonna enjoy this a lot in my bruse ikra deck with the amount of life loss I have in

  • @Elder_God901
    @Elder_God901 Год назад +1

    Holy shit this is nuts with necro and shimmer myr. necro until you hit shimmer and painter's servant, cast spells like crazy.

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +1

      Yeah she's really powerful with necropotence

  • @mikastrae
    @mikastrae Год назад +1

    my favorite thing about her is that if you can untap and retap her, the effect will stack

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад

      Yah I have a claim the firstborn in there as a way to give haste but also untap

    • @mikastrae
      @mikastrae Год назад

      @@RebellSon That's smart. Best case, it's one mana untap and worst case, it's a one mana haste enabler.

  • @Luciferian.Latino
    @Luciferian.Latino Год назад +2

    Threaten effects to untap Rowan and double the discount don't seem terrible either.

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +1

      Yeah the deck currently plays one Claim the Firstborn, but also has a Lightning Greaves

  • @joned1000
    @joned1000 Год назад +1

    Pay all life into necropotence cast tourment of hail fire, win by t3-4?

  • @mightyone3737
    @mightyone3737 Год назад

    You may be right, I may be crazy, but Rowan just might be the cEDH Eldrazi Commander I'm looking for! But seriously folks, this is the deck Necropotence wants if you're tired of playing OG Zur. I'm only partly joking, could be one part, could be both! But I do like Rowan, and I love that she makes Wheel of Misfortune pop, because that card needed a deck IMHO (I guess it has Greven too?).

  • @sadizz455
    @sadizz455 Год назад +1

    cool, a reason for ad naseum prices to blow up

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +1

      I don't imagine Ad Naus going up if other more popular decks haven't made it blow up yet

  • @tdimensional6733
    @tdimensional6733 Год назад +1

    They've done it. They've reprinted Channel.

  • @garnerloudermilk1710
    @garnerloudermilk1710 7 месяцев назад +1

    no Searing Touch? with a cost reduction 4 and birgi out you go off.

  • @AENock
    @AENock Год назад +3

    Rowan is solid yes, but here me out: Will turns Healing Salve into a ritual.

    • @atlasrises4
      @atlasrises4 Год назад +1

      And chaplain's blessing is even more cracked 🤣

  • @mechadryad4194
    @mechadryad4194 Год назад +5

    I’m wondering about the viability of using her in the 99 due to stuff like talismans and crypt helping meet the requirement easily

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +4

      I wouldn't play her in the 99, it feels too slow for me to take up a deck slot which is different than being in the CZ and recastable.

    • @bamby3144
      @bamby3144 Год назад +1

      also how would you account for her ability in deckbuilding if shes just in the 99? Even in a tymna deck, you cant depend on getting tymna to your second main

  • @atlasrises4
    @atlasrises4 Год назад +2

    Mana barbs becoming basically a mana flare for me and not for you is funny

  • @Mulletdog1
    @Mulletdog1 Год назад

    Rowan Makes it look easy. I wonder how the Will players feel 😅. I wonder what it would be like to make powerful decks around both that are meant to play against each other. Rowan uses dragons and Demons, Will use’s Sphinxes and angels.

  • @funnymandoafunny1810
    @funnymandoafunny1810 Год назад

    If you’re already playing a red combo deck you’re probably playing Red Blast/Pyroblast so Painter’s Servant has some additional utility

  • @noahnextkingofgames
    @noahnextkingofgames Год назад +3

    So when you use Rowan’s ability does it reduce by the total amount of life you lost this turn or just the total amount you lost before you before you tapped Rowan?

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +1

      I believe the total life you lost before you tapped Rowan. I don't believe the effect increases afterwards as you continue storming off.

    • @GorrnLord
      @GorrnLord 3 дня назад

      life lost when the ability resolves. You can tap rowan and then add instant speed life loss effects to the stack or you can lose the life first if you have sorcery speed effects you need to use but then you have to worry about rowan getting removed in response to that before she can use her ability

  • @jtb818
    @jtb818 Год назад +1

    What do you think of necrologia, are there any instant speed payoffs without emergence zone?

    • @lunarevel
      @lunarevel Год назад +2

      Lightning bolt/dual caster/saw in half is infinite bolts

  • @augustin1986ang
    @augustin1986ang 16 дней назад

    Sorry I missed the win con, how do you win with this deck? Grinding station? If that’s the case why do you need Storm?

  • @thehermitdruid
    @thehermitdruid Год назад

    I mean at the end of the day dinging yourself with an ancient tomb and a fetch land, tap Rowan and cast an Ad Naus for BB also is kinda fucked.

  • @danielromero2189
    @danielromero2189 8 месяцев назад

    Searching 3 cards for 2 Black mana Its really crazy xD

  • @cedricbelanger2438
    @cedricbelanger2438 Год назад +2

    Why there no untap artifact ??

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад

      I don't think this deck needs more reduction. Usually you get to 3 and that's enough and your casting cost chokepoint is the colored pips. Untapping Rowan doesn't help you with that.

  • @JimWolfie
    @JimWolfie Год назад

    I will be stern scolding this

  • @ReyaadawnMTG
    @ReyaadawnMTG Год назад

    Plunge Into Darkness let's you lose life and "tutor" at the same time. Beseech the Queen can also be a free tutor for a lot of cards.

  • @SethG27
    @SethG27 Год назад +1

    How does this compare with kriik?

  • @jeffwren7815
    @jeffwren7815 Год назад

    Do you have insight on the choice of Commander's plate's inclusion?

  • @ingolf82
    @ingolf82 Год назад +2

    Necro down to 1, then for 1 red mana, fireball to everyone's face 😈

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +1

      BOOM ITS RAKDOS CHANNEL

    • @onlywei
      @onlywei Год назад

      Wow there must be an instant version of fireball what is it?

  • @Mulletdog1
    @Mulletdog1 Год назад

    I’ve been playing magic for almost 10 years (started around theros block). I wish I could figure out my personal issues with deck construction that can allow me to have more consistency in games. Mathematically I know my win ratio won’t change, I just want to make decks that have the reliability that allow me to effect games and lessen the amount of bricking. Does that make sense?

  • @RidhaKerbal-vp5wt
    @RidhaKerbal-vp5wt Год назад

    Rowan seems busted with cards like Pestilence and like you said Rowan makes bigger casting cost cards way better in this list

  • @guilhermebasso9219
    @guilhermebasso9219 Год назад +1

    Fetch, shock, Ad Nauseam for BB?

  • @satansamael666
    @satansamael666 Год назад

    Strangely enough, my deck gets better with Rowan when my opponents have her out. Phantasmal Image is sometimes just better than Gilded Drake here because most people would suit her up with boots. As such, it’s really just my deck being better by something else being printed.

  • @bc6292
    @bc6292 Год назад +2

    I miss Senpai :(

  • @legendsend
    @legendsend Год назад +1

    How do you feel about heartless hidetsugu as a ritual/wincon

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад

      Maybe in a lower power level, that seems funny

  • @carlosmueller1276
    @carlosmueller1276 11 месяцев назад

    I have thousand year elixir in this deck but get confused if I tap Rowan and then untap her with thousand year elixir then tap her again . Does the stack double or stay the same ?

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  11 месяцев назад

      I believe it doubles

  • @jgmclellan
    @jgmclellan Год назад

    Im missing something, what is the painter/crypt interaction?

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +1

      Painter turns all the cards in your deck red or black, now all your colorless spells are basically free with Rowan’s ability

    • @jgmclellan
      @jgmclellan Год назад

      @@RebellSon oh sweet, ty

  • @benjaminhaile8334
    @benjaminhaile8334 Год назад +1

    Mind goblin?

  • @mixolli
    @mixolli Год назад

    How would Chromatic Orrery work with her ability? Could this make spells potentially completely free?

    • @1ogic948
      @1ogic948 Год назад

      Not 100% sure but I’m pretty sure since her cost reduction isn’t mana you spend, orrery doesn’t apply to it. If orrery made spells cost generic that would work but it only effects actual mana you have I believe.

  • @DiabloTommaso
    @DiabloTommaso Год назад

    And wotc noticed the format is too fast. Immagine if the didn t notice.
    That said i love this card very flexible. You can go big demons or big spells

  • @lordburger332
    @lordburger332 Год назад +1

    Idk kinda like dark Confident in this deck

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +1

      Low key that’s kinda hot

  • @jeffreylong1478
    @jeffreylong1478 Год назад

    Wall of blood is the mvp in this deck

  • @MollymaukTealeaf-et3vg
    @MollymaukTealeaf-et3vg Год назад +2

    I honestly just hate that they made a sticker card cedh viable i really dont want to have to make this commander :(
    On another note, looking forward to naming my deck: Rowan, Criminal of War

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +1

      You don't need the sticker card! You can easily replace it with a Seething Song or any other card with low color restrictions

  • @thekidmartian1
    @thekidmartian1 Год назад +1

    This is about to be an insaine reiterate commander so we can stop playing Vadrik now

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад

      Yall could have stopped playing Vadrik a while ago

  • @craicrushna7638
    @craicrushna7638 Год назад +1

    why are they ruining the twins in the story?

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +1

      Can't answer you there I don't even know the lore lol

  • @MageSkeleton
    @MageSkeleton Год назад +2

    Just need haste.

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад

      Yah I added boots in the deck but might want to consider more haste sources

  • @filipfrondelius3644
    @filipfrondelius3644 Год назад +1

    Playing K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth in this deck is A FREE OGRE LMAO

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +1

      I looked at Krrik and thought about it, but didn't want to compute them together. SEEMS GOOD THOUGH

  • @reytal496
    @reytal496 Год назад

    i think necrologia would be good in the deck

    • @yngnickel
      @yngnickel Год назад

      only playable in endstep so unfortunately not!

  • @noobtuber10
    @noobtuber10 Год назад

    Idk about cedh level, honestly the rakdos chainer and the new rakdos ob nix are probs way better for storming, also the new will just feels like a harder New heliod

    • @Hard1sh
      @Hard1sh Год назад +1

      the sheer power of ad naus for 2 mana cant be understated. Rowan obviously needs to prove herself but all the pieces are there for some broken lines and really fast games

  • @jasonrustmann7535
    @jasonrustmann7535 Год назад +1

    Can't wait to get a proxy of this, cause that art is so weak. Seriously, why are so many card's artworks so meh? You'd think with all the hate AI art gets, they'd be trying harder to make stuff that doesn't look like it.

  • @colinfowler3021
    @colinfowler3021 Год назад

    Generic rocks aren't rituals. Rowan only discounts black and red spells.

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +3

      They're rituals when you have a Painter's Servant changing the color identity of your deck to red or black.

    • @colinfowler3021
      @colinfowler3021 Год назад +1

      @@RebellSon my bad, I missed that part.

    • @RebellSon
      @RebellSon  Год назад +1

      @@colinfowler3021 it’s ok I didn’t explain it clearly! I’ll try to call stuff like that out more

  • @mfonlyfans
    @mfonlyfans 11 месяцев назад

    Has there been any updates to the list since? This actually looks so 🔥🔥🔥