@@showtime112 This is late but I also found this really enjoyable. IL-2 works really nice for this too because it has more WW2 content than DCS while also being a good simulator in its own right.
@@_ace_defective_ Il-2 definitely gives more options for WWII than DCS. The biggest flaw is the lack of heavy bombers but I hope they will correct it soon.
Not a few Vietnam pilots had WW2 combat experience. What people need to consider even from the summary of this mission in the vid, are: how skilled Olds was (note the take off issue), how cool he was when things went wrong, his positive combat aggressiveness, and his healthy ego (victory rolling the German pilot who survived his attack). Plus, whilst alone he bombed the right bridge, unlike the rest of the unit. And doing all these things in a P-38 also shows how he knew the versatility of that particular aircraft's abilities. Sure, the P-51 gets all the glory, but you've got to understand how brilliant the P-38 was at the same time as it was a difficult plane. That Olds mastered it is hugely important for his more 'sexy' reputation in Vietnam: the P-38 (and P-51) taught him how to be successful as a pilot and leader in the F-4. It's a little difficult for those who are as far from WW2 as I was from WW1; most of the WW2 vets are gone now and prop-driven a/c aren't as sexy as the exclusively jet age world since, say, 1950. And 1950 seems like ancient history for most now. But one must keep in mind that the beginnings of aviation isn't even a trillionth of a second in human history, so whatever happened since 1914 in terms of combat aviation is astonishing, and someone like Olds as a young fighter pilot is exceptional.
@@showtime112 This is the version I copied out by hand as a 12-year old when my family visited the USAF Museum at Wright-Pat in Ohio. Before the P-51, Lightnings were all we had to escort bombers. The link has more info and the disputes about authorship: Oh, Hedy Lamarr is a beautiful gal, and Madeleine Carroll is too, But you'll find if you query, a different theory amongst any bomber crew For the loveliest thing of which one could sing (this side of the pearly gates) Is no blonde or brunette of the Hollywood set - But an escort of P-38s. Yes, in the days that have passed, when the tables were massed with glasses of scotch and champagne, It's quite true that the sight was a thing of delight us, intent on feeling no pain. But no longer the same, nowadays is this game When we head north for Messina Straits Take the sparkling wine-every time, just make mine an escort of P-38s. Byron, Shelley and Keats ran a dozen dead heats Describing the views from the hills, of the valleys in May when the winds gently sway In the air it's a different story; We sweat out our track through the fighters and flak We're willing to split up the glory Well, they wouldn't reject us, so heaven protect us and, until all this shooting abates, Give us courage to fight 'em - one other small item - an escort of P-38s. p38assn.org/songs-and-poems/ I don't think the P-38 org has the right version, but they are THE org for all things P-38.
As always the historical information is great, my favorite warbird the P38, good video and you can't go wrong with WW2, Vietnam or the Korean conflict.
I’m surprised you didn’t choose the engine out, glide mode kill, as thats quite a story. I saw him explain it in a television programme. On an escort mission he dropped the drop tanks in order to engage a German fighter but forgot to switch the fuel selector. He has a page on wikipedia for more info.
That's the story from the first episode of Dogfights. To be honest, that one is a bit hard to do and I'm still learning the IL-2 mission editor. Once I'm more proficient with it, I'll do some more complex scenarios. Probably that one as well.
@@showtime112 Would be hard to recreate too as IL-2 doesn't have drop tanks yet, they are planned but it will take months as each plane gets them implemented.
That one is pretty well documented. And there's already a CGI video. He scored three, one with both engines out, one after he fired both engines back up, and one that bounced him as he recovered from a near terminal compressibility dive. His wingman, B.E Hollister scored at least one as well.
@@AlanRoehrich9651 You probably mean the video from History Channel's Dogfights. Their level of CGI is pretty much outdated now. I've already done a few stories that had been covered in that show.
My great uncle also arrived in the ETO in 1944, and flew P-38s until transition to P-51s. He scored one victory against an Fw-190 that he caught on final to its airfield. When I was a kid he showed me old VHS tapes of his gun cameras and all his old memoribilia, he was very proud of his exploits over there. It hadn't occurred to me that Olds flew the Lightning in Europe. Makes me wonder if they knew each other.
Thanks for sharing. If you knew exactly in which units your great uncle served at what time, it could be compared to Olds' service and see if they served together.
That's true. However it proved to be extremely hard to reenact so I 'simplified' it a bit. The dinner part was a bit hard to do as well 😁 But thanks for contributing additional info.
Olds set a record in the P-38, as well. As he was bouncing a BF-110, he jettisoned his external tanks and both of his engines died. This alarmed him for a moment but, he then quickly realized he was lined up for a shot on the 110. Olds took the shot, downed the 110, realized he forgot to switch his fuel selector from auxiliary to internal fuel. As he made the switch, his engines came back to life and he proceeded to attack the other enemy aircraft that his wingmen were engaging. That earned him the record, if I remember correctly, only confirmed enemy dead stick kill. At least, one of very few that did so, otherwise.
“Performed several victory rolls…” only because giving the middle finger out of the cockpit is against Army Air Force regs. 😂 Would love to see more WWII content if you’re willing to do it!
I had forgotten General Olds was also a WWII airman. I wonder if he also served in the Korean war? He was indeed a clever and able Wing Commander (twice in Viet Nam). Great job with this episode!!
No he didn't fly in Korea, it was politics, his wife was an actress in hollywood and they knew a lot of politicians,and they didn't want him to fly in that conflict incase he was shot down.
Glad you liked it. I would like to do more WWII stuff in the future. All of my videos on that subject underperformed badly. Except for the last one and that gives me hope
Robin Olds first wife was an actress Ella Raine who was staunch Anti Communist and famous Hollywood star, form fighter pilot aces to marrying a star of films Robin Olds was one lucky man.
when In was in the second grade (1969-70) I wrote a letter to the USAF academy saying I would like to be a pilot.....the man who cordially answered my letter was BGen Robin Olds .....I long ago lost the letter sadly
Robin Olds would of been the first jet Ace of Vietnam, had it not been for the US Air Force command. Who would of repatriated him immediately for propaganda purposes, had he downed five enemy Migs. But Olds loved flying too much, he wanted to do what he loved, not become the Airfoces P.R man. So after downing four Migs, Olds would no longer fire on Enemy aircraft. Instead he would just latch onto them, allowing his Wingman to claim the kill.
I'm glad. It's a shame thst my WWII videos can't get any views because I know the audience for this exists. But YT algorithm doesn't want you to do anything different. I'll keep trying nevertheless 😁
It actually was used for bomber escort in late 1943 and early 1944 but there were certain problems. Then, the Mustang was introduced and it was more suitable for the job. There's an interesting article about it here: www.historynet.com/p-38-flunked-europe/
@@showtime112 Well thanks for that article. Guess it was the altitude and temp. Brought up what I was thinking - why didn't switch out engines like early mustangs did. Raises another question - why didn't early missions use the P-47, which wouldn't have had the 38 issues. But arrival of 51 solved everything.
Good morning During this fight the second German pilot was to be Ulrich Hillger of the JG2 'Richthofen' squadron on a mission to Evreux that day and he was flying a Focke-Wulf fw190-A8. After being chased above the town of Montmirail his plane was damaged and after having traveled about twenty kilometers He ejected (his parachute did not open) and died in a field in the town of Chapelle-Royale (Eure et Loire - France). I am researching this fight and for the next exhibition in my village which will take place in 2024 and I would like to broadcast your video and above all complete my 2022 document on which I indicated that Lieutenant Richard Garland of 392 Fighter Squadron - 367 Fighter group had engaged in combat but without succeeding in destroying this plane above the Evreux base to attribute this victory to Lieutenant Robin Olds. Can you tell me if it would be possible to have your agreement and to have a digital copy of this video. Cordially
Hello and thanks for contacting me! Yes, feel free to use the video for your presentation. You can contact me on showtime112b@gmail.com and I can upload the original video for you to download.
I think YT didn't have voice recognition at the time which could be easily modified into proper captions. More recent videos on the channel all have English captions.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Except that Olds, Ilfrey, Morris, Lowell, and Blumer, among others, did extremely well in the P-38 against the very best that the Luftwaffe had. And Olds nailed TWO 190's in a two on one engagement, easily outflying them both, in a P-38.
@@AlanRoehrich9651 I expect to dig more deeply into the P-38 operations over Europe in the future. I kinda like to point out to some lesser known facts in military aviation.
The 190 really wasn't all that, especially the radial-engined variants by this stage of the war. It had a good rate of roll and dived fairly well, but the sole reason it had been such a nasty shock to the western Allies was that it could outperform the Spitfire Mk.V when it entered service and in particular had a fantastic rate of roll (hence the clipped-wing Spitfires, to try remedy this disparity). By 1942 the Spitfire Mk.IX had regained the upper hand and the 190 was no longer some bogeyman as the IX had superior performance in many respects and pilots had already learnt to fight it by exploiting its weaknesses. For its own part, the P-38's agility was surprisingly good for a twin-engined fighter and it had excellent speed and climb characteristics, and the main reasons for its high loss rate in Europe were meddling from the bomber mafia (so they often went without tanks, which hurt its combat radius) and inexperienced pilots bounced during ground attack missions, mainly over the MTO. The P-38 was largely replaced by the P-51 over Europe because of a mix of politics and aforementioned bomber mafia meddling, it was extremely successful over the Pacific in the fighter role.
This is a nice change of pace being set in WWII. I enjoyed it very much, more from WWII would be welcomed. Thanks for the post.
Thank you for watching and commenting! I think I'll cover WWII more in the future. So much stuff to cover and many assets to use in IL-2.
@@showtime112 This is late but I also found this really enjoyable. IL-2 works really nice for this too because it has more WW2 content than DCS while also being a good simulator in its own right.
@@_ace_defective_ Il-2 definitely gives more options for WWII than DCS. The biggest flaw is the lack of heavy bombers but I hope they will correct it soon.
If you remember anybody from Dogfights, you probably remember Robin Olds.
Sure, it's hard to forget the guy.
@@showtime112 In his Dogfights episode, he claimed he had a 1,000-pd bomb slung and that his wheels left a mark on the other plane's wing
Not a few Vietnam pilots had WW2 combat experience. What people need to consider even from the summary of this mission in the vid, are: how skilled Olds was (note the take off issue), how cool he was when things went wrong, his positive combat aggressiveness, and his healthy ego (victory rolling the German pilot who survived his attack). Plus, whilst alone he bombed the right bridge, unlike the rest of the unit. And doing all these things in a P-38 also shows how he knew the versatility of that particular aircraft's abilities. Sure, the P-51 gets all the glory, but you've got to understand how brilliant the P-38 was at the same time as it was a difficult plane. That Olds mastered it is hugely important for his more 'sexy' reputation in Vietnam: the P-38 (and P-51) taught him how to be successful as a pilot and leader in the F-4. It's a little difficult for those who are as far from WW2 as I was from WW1; most of the WW2 vets are gone now and prop-driven a/c aren't as sexy as the exclusively jet age world since, say, 1950. And 1950 seems like ancient history for most now. But one must keep in mind that the beginnings of aviation isn't even a trillionth of a second in human history, so whatever happened since 1914 in terms of combat aviation is astonishing, and someone like Olds as a young fighter pilot is exceptional.
I agree, Olds was one of a kind. And P-38 deserves a bit more praise. I did a video about that too recently :)
@@showtime112 This is the version I copied out by hand as a 12-year old when my family visited the USAF Museum at Wright-Pat in Ohio. Before the P-51, Lightnings were all we had to escort bombers. The link has more info and the disputes about authorship:
Oh, Hedy Lamarr is a beautiful gal, and Madeleine Carroll is too,
But you'll find if you query, a different theory amongst any bomber crew
For the loveliest thing of which one could sing (this side of the pearly gates)
Is no blonde or brunette of the Hollywood set -
But an escort of P-38s.
Yes, in the days that have passed,
when the tables were massed with glasses of scotch and champagne,
It's quite true that the sight was a thing of delight us,
intent on feeling no pain.
But no longer the same, nowadays is this game
When we head north for Messina Straits
Take the sparkling wine-every time,
just make mine an escort of P-38s.
Byron, Shelley and Keats ran a dozen dead heats
Describing the views from the hills,
of the valleys in May when the winds gently sway
In the air it's a different story;
We sweat out our track through the fighters and flak
We're willing to split up the glory
Well, they wouldn't reject us, so heaven protect us
and, until all this shooting abates,
Give us courage to fight 'em - one other small item -
an escort of P-38s.
p38assn.org/songs-and-poems/ I don't think the P-38 org has the right version, but they are THE org for all things P-38.
I like the gun camera effect!
Thanks, I was quite happy with it!
As always the historical information is great, my favorite warbird the P38, good video and you can't go wrong with WW2, Vietnam or the Korean conflict.
Thanks! There's something about the Lightning, I agree. Vietnam will be the next video and after that not sure but maybe another WWII story.
I’m surprised you didn’t choose the engine out, glide mode kill, as thats quite a story. I saw him explain it in a television programme. On an escort mission he dropped the drop tanks in order to engage a German fighter but forgot to switch the fuel selector. He has a page on wikipedia for more info.
That's the story from the first episode of Dogfights. To be honest, that one is a bit hard to do and I'm still learning the IL-2 mission editor. Once I'm more proficient with it, I'll do some more complex scenarios. Probably that one as well.
@@showtime112 Would be hard to recreate too as IL-2 doesn't have drop tanks yet, they are planned but it will take months as each plane gets them implemented.
Engine out and still get a kill? Very interesting if that's the case, good suggestion 👍
That one is pretty well documented. And there's already a CGI video. He scored three, one with both engines out, one after he fired both engines back up, and one that bounced him as he recovered from a near terminal compressibility dive. His wingman, B.E Hollister scored at least one as well.
@@AlanRoehrich9651 You probably mean the video from History Channel's Dogfights. Their level of CGI is pretty much outdated now. I've already done a few stories that had been covered in that show.
This only makes me more excited for your future F-4E Phantom II videos. Top class work as always.
Thank you for sharing! There will be videos about Olds in Vietnam.
My great uncle also arrived in the ETO in 1944, and flew P-38s until transition to P-51s. He scored one victory against an Fw-190 that he caught on final to its airfield. When I was a kid he showed me old VHS tapes of his gun cameras and all his old memoribilia, he was very proud of his exploits over there.
It hadn't occurred to me that Olds flew the Lightning in Europe. Makes me wonder if they knew each other.
Thanks for sharing. If you knew exactly in which units your great uncle served at what time, it could be compared to Olds' service and see if they served together.
Olds actually bounced a wheel off the P-38 blocking the runway. Left a mark. He and his wife had dinner overlooking the bridge.
That's true. However it proved to be extremely hard to reenact so I 'simplified' it a bit. The dinner part was a bit hard to do as well 😁 But thanks for contributing additional info.
this is the superhero origins story we need
He sure was extremely charismatic.
Refreshing! 😃
Glad you think so!
Olds set a record in the P-38, as well. As he was bouncing a BF-110, he jettisoned his external tanks and both of his engines died. This alarmed him for a moment but, he then quickly realized he was lined up for a shot on the 110. Olds took the shot, downed the 110, realized he forgot to switch his fuel selector from auxiliary to internal fuel. As he made the switch, his engines came back to life and he proceeded to attack the other enemy aircraft that his wingmen were engaging. That earned him the record, if I remember correctly, only confirmed enemy dead stick kill. At least, one of very few that did so, otherwise.
That would be quite hard to reenact in IL-2 but someday, I might try it.
@@showtime112 that would be hard to nail. Lol
BF-110 or rather... 109?
@@elcojoness8637 I’ll have to look it up again but, I could’ve sworn it was a BF-110.
Something new and still too good, would love to see more from IL-2.
Thanks! I'm very likely gonna do more.
WOW to see a p38 lightning ⚡️ in person is to see your favorite hero it takes your breath away I love this channel
Thank you for the feedback!
Great video. I've wanted to see this re-created since reading his book.
Glad to hear it, thanks for commenting!
Yess!! Ww2 content!
Thanks! I intend to do more of it, seems like a new and exciting thing to do.
@@showtime112 fantastic!!
“Performed several victory rolls…” only because giving the middle finger out of the cockpit is against Army Air Force regs. 😂 Would love to see more WWII content if you’re willing to do it!
Thanks! It looks like I'm gonna do more WWII stuff.
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Mislim da će biti još toga.
I had forgotten General Olds was also a WWII airman. I wonder if he also served in the Korean war? He was indeed a clever and able Wing Commander (twice in Viet Nam). Great job with this episode!!
Thanks for the comment! Olds didn't participate in the Korean War. I think he did request to go but he was turned down for some reason.
No he didn't fly in Korea, it was politics, his wife was an actress in hollywood and they knew a lot of politicians,and they didn't want him to fly in that conflict incase he was shot down.
GOOD OLD CLASSIC.
Thanks for appreciating the content!
that was fantastic! Please consider doing more WWII videos!
Glad you liked it. I would like to do more WWII stuff in the future. All of my videos on that subject underperformed badly. Except for the last one and that gives me hope
5:16 bet you felt very proud about that drop hahah
To be perfectly honest, I cheated 😁
Great vid! I am very familiar with Olds' exploits in Vietnam, but did not know his history in WWII.
Thanks! That's exactly why I made this video, I thought it would be a worthy story to tell.
That was great, thanks.
I'm glad you appreciate it!
Thanks for the detailed research and entertaining presentation.🙃
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Excellent
Thank you, I am glad you appreciate this (somewhat overlooked) content!
great video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! more WW2 videos plz!
Thanks! There will be more.
Olds Bong Yeager Bud Anderson all American heroes
Yeah, and the stories are quite well documented.
"Stop with the negative waves! It's a beautiful bridge and it's gonna be there!" --Oddball. Mister Olds disagrees.
Despite general confusion of the whole mission, at leas one guy knew what he was doing.
Robin Olds first wife was an actress Ella Raine who was staunch Anti Communist and famous Hollywood star, form fighter pilot aces to marrying a star of films Robin Olds was one lucky man.
I'm surprised no one has made a film about him yet. You don't have to be a genius to make a good film from that kind of a material.
@@showtime112 His biography book "Fighter Pilot: The Memoirs of Legendary Ace Robin Olds" is a very good read, endorsed by his daughter.
Looking for more...
There will be more.
As always... Equal to your usual awesome self ! Well done trooper !
I appreciate your positive feedback, thanks! And I'm glad people watch these older videos that didn't do too well.
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He was quite an extraordinary person, no doubt.
This just got uploaded on him. ruclips.net/video/kWMYICWrFuw/видео.html
when In was in the second grade (1969-70) I wrote a letter to the USAF academy saying I would like to be a pilot.....the man who cordially answered my letter was BGen Robin Olds .....I long ago lost the letter sadly
Interesting. Such a shame you lost the letrer.
il2 nice
Thanks. More very likely to come.
Robin Olds would of been the first jet Ace of Vietnam, had it not been for the US Air Force command. Who would of repatriated him immediately for propaganda purposes, had he downed five enemy Migs. But Olds loved flying too much, he wanted to do what he loved, not become the Airfoces P.R man. So after downing four Migs, Olds would no longer fire on Enemy aircraft. Instead he would just latch onto them, allowing his Wingman to claim the kill.
Yeah, that is widely accepted. I'll probably deal more with that in the future.
I like this a lot! 👍🏻👏🏻💪🏻🙋🏼♂️🍻
I'm glad. It's a shame thst my WWII videos can't get any views because I know the audience for this exists. But YT algorithm doesn't want you to do anything different. I'll keep trying nevertheless 😁
Victory rolls over the bailed-out 190 pilot? Man would've been reported for toxicity, what a gamer 🤣
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P - 38 Lightning : The Forked Wing Devil... Yeeehaw!!
There's something about it. Personally, I like P-38 more than P-51 even though the latter is more popular. Maybe that's the reason :)
@@showtime112
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Thee enemy gave the Lockheed " Forked Wing Devil" for a reason. I do not recall at this time a nickname for the Mustang.
@@jdsaldivar5606 I can't remember anything either.
@@showtime112
82ND AIRBORNE
Hey man... don't feel so bad...I couldn't remember anything after my Prom date...
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Hvala. Dođi na discord pa ćemo vidjeti.
@@showtime112 ciji discord
@@Piydarija Moj. Link je u opisu videa.
Couldn't have the P-38 escorted B-17 on early bombing raids when they had bad losses?
It actually was used for bomber escort in late 1943 and early 1944 but there were certain problems. Then, the Mustang was introduced and it was more suitable for the job. There's an interesting article about it here:
www.historynet.com/p-38-flunked-europe/
@@showtime112 Well thanks for that article. Guess it was the altitude and temp.
Brought up what I was thinking - why didn't switch out engines like early mustangs did.
Raises another question - why didn't early missions use the P-47, which wouldn't have had the 38 issues.
But arrival of 51 solved everything.
Good morning
During this fight the second German pilot was to be Ulrich Hillger of the JG2 'Richthofen' squadron on a mission to Evreux that day and he was flying a Focke-Wulf fw190-A8. After being chased above the town of Montmirail his plane was damaged and after having traveled about twenty kilometers He ejected (his parachute did not open) and died in a field in the town of Chapelle-Royale (Eure et Loire - France).
I am researching this fight and for the next exhibition in my village which will take place in 2024 and I would like to broadcast your video and above all complete my 2022 document on which I indicated that Lieutenant Richard Garland of 392 Fighter Squadron - 367 Fighter group had engaged in combat but without succeeding in destroying this plane above the Evreux base to attribute this victory to Lieutenant Robin Olds.
Can you tell me if it would be possible to have your agreement and to have a digital copy of this video.
Cordially
Hello and thanks for contacting me! Yes, feel free to use the video for your presentation. You can contact me on showtime112b@gmail.com and I can upload the original video for you to download.
Il-2 or DCS?
It's IL-2.
Amusing. But it would be better if you subtitled in ENGLISH than that other tongue ..
I think YT didn't have voice recognition at the time which could be easily modified into proper captions. More recent videos on the channel all have English captions.
Correction, I've just checked. English captions are available for this video as well.
looks like he caught the Germans napping as the FW190 would out fly the P38.Thats why they were rarely used over Europe,it was mostly over N Africa.
It was a surprise, sure. But that's how air combat mostly looks like.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Except that Olds, Ilfrey, Morris, Lowell, and Blumer, among others, did extremely well in the P-38 against the very best that the Luftwaffe had.
And Olds nailed TWO 190's in a two on one engagement, easily outflying them both, in a P-38.
@@AlanRoehrich9651 I expect to dig more deeply into the P-38 operations over Europe in the future. I kinda like to point out to some lesser known facts in military aviation.
The 190 really wasn't all that, especially the radial-engined variants by this stage of the war. It had a good rate of roll and dived fairly well, but the sole reason it had been such a nasty shock to the western Allies was that it could outperform the Spitfire Mk.V when it entered service and in particular had a fantastic rate of roll (hence the clipped-wing Spitfires, to try remedy this disparity). By 1942 the Spitfire Mk.IX had regained the upper hand and the 190 was no longer some bogeyman as the IX had superior performance in many respects and pilots had already learnt to fight it by exploiting its weaknesses. For its own part, the P-38's agility was surprisingly good for a twin-engined fighter and it had excellent speed and climb characteristics, and the main reasons for its high loss rate in Europe were meddling from the bomber mafia (so they often went without tanks, which hurt its combat radius) and inexperienced pilots bounced during ground attack missions, mainly over the MTO. The P-38 was largely replaced by the P-51 over Europe because of a mix of politics and aforementioned bomber mafia meddling, it was extremely successful over the Pacific in the fighter role.