2023 Subaru Forester vs Outback Comparison & 0-60 / Half Brothers
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- Опубликовано: 6 янв 2023
- While they share most of their genes, the Forester and Outback represent two completely different approaches to a compact-ish Subaru crossover!
Thank you, Royal on the Eastside, for letting me test drive used and new cars to make this video possible!
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00:16 - 2023 Updates
00:50 - Pricing / Specs
03:25 - Cargo / Interior
09:25 - Outback Drive
14:27 - Forester Drive
17:24 - Reliability / Safety
18:39 - Final Thoughts 
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ADDITIONALLY, towing is different between the two. The Outback pulls 2700 with the 2.5, Forester pulls 1500 with the 2.5 or 3000 with the wilderness (trans cooler, FD ratio). XT outback can tow 3,500!
Glad to see you included this here.
Very nice comparison of these two Subaru's.
I love my '21 Outback LTD XT. My daughter loves her '21 Forester.
Being 6’3” guy, which of the both would you choose?
@@anubhavchhabra007 the forester
if you like the SUV driving position, get the Forester. If you like car like seating, get the outback.
This sold the outback for me, I couldn’t tell what felt so wrong about the forester until I read this
Exactly, I went in looking for an outback but left with a forester
I have watched a few videos on comparing these 2 cars and yours is the best I have seen. Good job, Forester is my choice.
My wife loves her Outback and I love my Forester !
The Outback is my wife’s commuter car and our road car.
I’m retired so my Forester is just used for getting around town (30 miles away).
"The base model Forester has only four speakers, which kinda makes it sound like it's shouting at your feet." LOL
Having sold both cars for years, and having owned the Forester and Legacy (non-lifted Outback), here is my take on their differences...
The Forester handles better, and feels more lively overall. Full stop. Subaru always say that the Outback drives like a car, compared to most SUVs, and that's true, but it's a really heavy, slow, ponderous car. Very dull. The Forester feels and behaves like a smaller, more agile, energetic vehicle. This is when comparing both with the NA 2.5. Obviously, the Outback's optional turbo changes the equation, at least in terms of acceleration. If you want or need halfway fun acceleration, the Outback turbo is the only way to go.
Cargo-wise, it's fairly simple. Do you value depth, or accessibility? The Outback has a longer cargo space, but the Forester's is taller and wider, making it the better option for Costco runs, furniture shopping, buying a BBQ, etc. If all you're doing is grocery shopping, and height/width don't matter all that much, then the Outback's superior depth is better. The Outback is also better for sleeping in your car.
Comfort is a mixed bag. The Forester is definitely better for ingress and egress. For the elderly, or for people with bad backs, its very tall doors that open so widely make the Forester the best Old People car on the planet, other than maybe some minivans. Just open the door, turn your back to the seat, and skootch back until your butt hits the seat. You're in. With the Outback, its additional height vs a sedan makes it better than the Legacy, but it's still not as easy to get in and out of as the Forester. Seating-wise, it's SUV vs sedan again. Do you like to lean back in more of a prone position, legs forward, or sit up straight and tall, legs more beneath you, and have a commanding view of the road? The Outback reclines more. The Forester places you in a more active driving position, and its ginormous windows offer better outward visibility than the already excellent Outback's. The Forester offers a genuine sitting-in-a-fishbowl feeling, especially when that (semi) panoramic roof is open.
The Outback has newer, faster, "better" infotainment tech, and larger screens, but it's all much less user-friendly than the Forester's traditional switches, buttons, and smaller screens. That being said, the overabundance of buttons and switches on and around the steering wheel is a real nuisance on both vehicles. Subaru needs to simplify their steering wheel controls layout, big-time.
Materials-wise, the Outback wins. It's less plasticky, with more soft touches everywhere, and a cleaner look. Unfortunately, as mentioned above, that cleaner looks comes at the cost of decreased usabiity. Subaru really needs to go to Honda school to learn how to build a clean, functional, user-friendly interior. Toyota and Mazda could also teach Subaru a thing or three there.
Exterior styling? Cardigan-sporting Grandparents, or vape-huffing Outdoorsy Tinder Couple? The Outback is decidedly AARP, while the Forester is pure PNW Tree Hugger. Distinct personalities. Both are rather homely, in that peculiarly endearing Subaru hiking-boot way.
The Outback is quieter on the highway. Not by much, but the difference is there. It's the more serene mile-muncher.
Conversely, the Forester is better off road, and for most daily duties in which smaller/more agile beats larger/more cumbersome. Let your teen daughter borrow the car, and she's much more likely to come back with a dented Outback than with a dented Forester, due to the Forester's greater outward visibility and shorter, boxier shape. It's not just inexperienced, phone-addled teens, either. A lot of distracted soccer moms and elderly people with diminished spacial awareness routinely misjudge the length of the Outback's rear end, and end up paying the price. The Outback's rear bumper and quarter panels are powerful magnets for parking lot light poles.
While both cars use the same crappy CVT and direct injection, the Forester has had a slightly better recent history of reliability. Neither are stellar, but both have improved significantly over the past few years. For one thing, head gaskets are no longer an issue. Unfortunately, excessisve oil consumption and ultra-expensive windshield replacements remain a concern. No longer would I recommend any Subaru, as I would have confidently done in the past, if a buyer is looking for something to go 200,000+ trouble-free miles. Between the CVT simply not lasting that long, and the oil consumption posing serious longevity issues, I just can't do it. Also, there's the additional longterm concerns with the Outback's turbo. Instead, I'd tell them to buy a NA Toyota. I wouldn't even recommend a modern Honda anymore, not with nearly all of them now utilyzing turbos, direct injection, and CVTs.
In the end, I think the choice between the Forester and Outback is fairly easy. You know which one appeals to you, which one suits your tastes better: friendly, utilitarian SUV, or lifted midsize wagon. Turbo options notwithstanding, the rest is just details.
The cvt is just fine.
@@chuckg6039 No, it’s not, which any experienced Subaru service writer will confirm.
@@vlj1133 it's fine.
@@chuckg6039 Sure it is, as long as one’s expectations are sufficiently lowered, and one doesn’t mind that their CVT won’t last nearly as long as other trannies, and it has to be replaced as an entire unit, at exorbitant cost, rather than simply being repaired.
Then it’s fine, just like a Land Rover or Jeep are fine. That’s why God invented leasing, right?
If I could get an Outback with the Forester's infotainment and climate controls I'd already have one.
Wonderful review of the outback and forester, really enjoying your content... keep it coming!
Thanks for an excellent overview of the two vehicles I am most interested in for a potential purchase this year. You really marked out the differences so well and the great thing about Subaru is they actually let you build the vehicle you want (at least at my local dealer in CT) to be delivered 6 months later. You get a whole lotta car in the Outback for under $50K but I really like the size, shape, design and practicality of the Forester. Cheers, Tyler~
Awesome! If you have any other cars on your list you'd like a video of, I'll see if I can make it happen.
This is a great video! I’ve owned a ‘19 Forester Sport and traded for a ‘21 Toyota Venza hybrid. I got a lot less fuel economy than the sticker on the Forester and drove a ton for work. I’ve changed jobs now and don’t drive for my job except for the commute between work and home. I want another Subaru and am thinking about the Outback XT. My greatest hesitation on the Outback is that giant tablet infotainment. I like knobs, buttons, and analog gauges. I had enough issues on the Forester infotainment and it was much smaller. Thanks for such a well done comparison.
Love my Forester, yes the sport trim is just an appearance package but well worth the upgrade for me.
I was dead set on the Forester, but then I sat in the Outback and knew it was the one to buy. The seats were better contoured and form fitting whereas the Forester felt like a bench seat by comparison. Even before I changed my mind, I thought the Outback was the better looking vehicle. The Forester is kind of flat and boxy whereas the Outback has better sweeping lines and curves. It looks like a sleeper station wagon that has been souped up. As someone who is relatively tall, but also very long-waisted, I have a very tall seating height but have no issue with head clearance in the Outback.
Great comparison. Very informative. Thanks.
I cross shopped both cars and placed an order for the 2023 Outback Touring. I hope it arrives here soon!
Worth watching guys 👍
I prefer a wagon's shape to an SUV's, but after driving both the Outback and Forester I ended up buying the Forester (Wilderness). A lot I liked about each but the fact that the Forester was lighter, shorter and had a smaller turning circle were important to me. And that it had no turbo, crazy as that may seem.
For a naturally-aspirated engine though, highway mpg has been pretty dismal in the Wilderness. I've only had it 5 months so I hope it reaches the EPA figure at some point.
The mpg also depends if you have a lead foot or not
My wife and I drive each other's cars, I consistently get 20% more distance than she does, on both cars
Your mpg will never match the EPA figures
Agree about the turbo. I ordered a 2023 Forester just for that reason, would much rather have a naturally aspirated engine. It has enough power, given the fact that I sometimes find myself in bumper to bumper traffic many evenings having gobs of power is kind of pointless. The Wilderness is geared lower which is going to impact fuel mileage. It also rides a little higher which doesn’t help with fuel mileage. It does look sharp though!
Not sure if you’re in an area that it’s readily available but try ethanol free pure gasoline. It will like give it a boost.
Great video! Suggest it might be a good idea to add something in the upper corner as to which car you are in during that part of the video. I guess my old age is showing.
This couldn't have come out at a more perfect time. Went to Subaru today to check out the Outback and Forester Touring trims. This video is going to help a lot in my final decision on which one to buy, thank you!
Did they actually have new cars available to see at the dealer or were they going to have to place an order and you wait for three months?
@@sdean4816 my dealership had new cars available to purchase and look at but I did choose to order because they didn’t have a Touring Outback in the colors I wanted. We’re looking to receive the car in mid March as of now but who knows if that will change significantly.
perfect cars for customers where want to buy one of these, thanks for the review 👍
If you were asking the question last year I would say the Outback was better looking. I really don't care for the increased cladding on all models. I had a 2023 Outback loaner and I loved my week with it. Very comfortable and handles well without have a harsh or noisy ride.
I have the Saddle Brown interior in my Forester and I love it. My wife has the Ivory interior in her Outback
The Forester is great for us old guys (no giant touchscreen, CD player, loads of headroom and legroom, better sunroof ) :)
I don’t think the larger screen adds any functionality. The Forester’s screen is as big as it needs to be.
😄👏🏼…..I prefer OUTBACK over FORESTER, but like much smaller screen & happy that only SUBARU offers a CD player👌🏼
Very interesting & enjoyable. U are very knowledgeable.. and informative..Love ur video*
I just bought the 23 Forester Wilderness. I love it. It’s also my 3rd Subaru, so maybe I’m biased.
I have two Subaru's. A 2019 Outback Touring 3.6r and a 2024 Forester Touring. Both were purchased new. Both cars have the Brown Leather interior. But the 2024 Forester's seats also have Black Leather trim accents. Love the visibility the Forester offers. Granted it would be nice if a higher horsepower engine was offered. Selected these model years as not liking the larger infotainment dash offered in the 2020 Outback or what's coming in the 2025 Forester.
Will you co-sign my loan to get a Forester?
My dad has a 2020 forester and my mom has a 2022 outback and the only difference between them is the outback has had 2 warranty repairs already and the forester has only had oil changes.
Outback is built in America. Forester made in Japan. That would explain your experience
I’d love to see a sport Outback XT with the SPT, firmer & lowered suspension and the exterior design from the onyx
Thanks for the great comparison between the two! How does the suspension and noise level of the Crosstrek compare to the Outback and Forester?
very good video brother. this comparison was great. You did get a 5.78 on the outback turbo.. where are you from? or where did you do that testing.. im from the wisconsin area so just curious if those are numbers i can use around here
I read where many poo poo the 2.5 NA in the Forester, but I'm OK with that. I've had quite a few vehicles with turbos and issues with those turbo's. Sure, more power would be great and maybe Subaru should offer a turbo in the Forester, but I'd still go with the 2.5NA.
The NA 2.5L 182 hp in my Forester does just fine for me. It’s not as quick as my old Toyota V6, but the mpg is far better so the trade off is worth it to me.
Just depends on what you do. If you do a lot of mountain driving or towing, then the turbo is huge. Otherwise for 90% of people you’re right
@@seanchang5372 Hilly and no towing. For the towing we have a newer F-150 EcoBoost twin turbo. So far no turbo issues.
I really like the 2.5 in my 21 crosstrek sport and apparently the forster curb weight is only like 300 lbs more. I imagine a lot of the complaint is that there is no longer the OPTION for turbo, you know? Plus, I mean, people will complain about anything so there is also that lol
@@Doc1855I had a’98 4-runner with the 3.4 and bought a’15 Outback and it ate the Toyota’s lunch in everything but towing
I have owned three Forrester XT’s. If I was buying today, I would get an outback XT.
I wanted the Forester but bought the Outback XT because of the Turbo engine. The forester lacks performance. Both are almost equal except for visibility, the Forester wins with the taller windows. For me it’s Outback XT every-time!
I’m happy with my 2022 outback wilderness
I find the OB CVT does not whine as much as the Forester. Great review though. Matches my impressions to a T.
Nice comparison test Jake! I owned a 2017 Forester for a couple of years, and agree that the new generation addressed most of my complaints: wind noise, bouncy ride at highway speeds and flat unsupportive front seats. I tested a new outback with and without the turbo but wasn’t thrilled with either (CVT programming sucks on both). Ended up replacing the Forester with a CPO BMW 330i xdrive wagon.
This sounds like me. I have a 2015 GTI, and would take a '23 Outback Onyx if a manual were available, but just can't do the CVT. Enjoy the BMW, that's a nice car.
My name isnt jake but thank you 😂The cvt definitely won’t replace a traditional auto or dct if you want any ounce of fun from the powertrain! Congrats on the wagon🥳
My bad- so sorry!
Pretty Satisfact with my 23 Legacy Sport, besides it missing mono eyesight camera
I wish the Forester Wilderness had a 260 hp engine but it is what it is, great review btw!
When I put my Forester Wilderness, in Sport Mode, I get plenty of power!
I know it’s not turbo power, but how revy is it? What can you compare it to?? Just curious.
The interior layout and material colors of the new Outback look really similar to the newer Volvos (definitely not a bad thing!)
Outlook ?
@@sdean4816 yea brand new Subaru model, just came out
And for those that were stuck on seat height like I was, the Forrester seat is 2 inches taller than the outback. So you’re sitting 2 inches higher than the other.
iCody…do you mean 2” more height from the floor of the car to the top of the seat base, or 2” higher measured off of the ground outside of the cars? I’m 6’3” and looking for taller interior seat height.
Thank you.
@@andyf1693
The Forester is your choice.... more room above your head even though the seat sits a couple inches higher from ground level.
I'm glad I got a 2022 Outback model. In my opinion, the front end of the 23 model is over engineered and doesn't protect the front end from rock and chip damage. Plus they went overboard with the cladding around the wheels.
Personal preference, I got the forester sport and I love it the one thing I did like about the outback is all the plastic clattering on the outside and that huge monitor in the middle of the dash that was totally gaudy. The 2022 Forester got the new exterior and interior redesign. Dollar for Dollar you a bigger bang for your buck with the Forester................
I built my’15 Outback before the wilderness with Ironman suspension and bigger a/t’s. The wife has a’21 Forester sport so I have the best of both worlds I suppose. Love them both but my outback more
Currently trying to pack my outback for a trip and there is so much snow everywhere 😭
What was the criteria used in determining the winner of the "Style Crown" as mentioned at 2:10? Thanks for this video, great review
I think the Forester Wilderness looks animated, the rugged alterations work really well with its boxy proportions. It's fun to me but that's a personal "style crown" as I don't think there is much of an organized consensus of which one of these looks better!
I wish they never dropped the large sunroof from the Outback starting in 2010.
Yes we need a 2.4 turbo for the Forester. Really sad they haven't come back w turbo. Almost bought the last XT, though it was the same price as the Infiniti QX50 I ended up buying which has the naturally aspirated 6 cylinder and makes 325 hp. Never would have believed that was the last year for the XT!
I love my forester. I love the transmission. Such an easy vehicle to drive and I think it’s insanely dynamic. Never worry about winter, rain, can tow 3,000 pounds, can hold 800 on roof. I find it beautiful inside. But I’m coming from a orettt basic Tacoma that made my back hurt within minutes of getting in it. I’m gonna use this thing for everything!
Love the Outback better and so did my sister who traded in her Forester for an Outback and just loved it.
My 2009 forester only has 4 speakers and is two levels below the xt premium
Love my 2015 Forester and am about to replace it with a 2023. However ….most of my miles were highway driving and I NEVER got anywhere near the estimated MPG.
Hey, hi, I was planning to get one used Forester 2020. Could you please let me know what MPG u are getting for urs one
I have a 2014 forester hopefully the turbo will comeback. Though I’m interested in the forester hybrid that should come out in the next year or so.
The 2023 Forester Touring XT is a turbo...!!!
👎🏼 for calling the wilderness silly. Driving Sports TV channel proved it does provide a big difference vs the standard model.
I would go for the outback anytime
Great video as always. Agree with you on the Outback Onyx (non-turbo) being a great value. We were able to get one for 33.4K with VIP and $500 Loyalty. Dealer had it on the lot. Couldn't justify the $ for the Crosstrek Limited. My only real complaint about the Outback is the front fascia re-design. The 20-22 designed looked much better - can't really complain through.
Congrats on the Onyx, hopefully the new fascia grows on you! I've personally started to like it, especially in a darker color like the one here.
I think the outback looks better and is just classier and more comfortable overall.
My thoughts exactly!
I love my new Outback, but I don't like the almost ZERO space to put stuff under the giant info screen. There's one tiny pocket that barely fits my wallet and phone. The Forrester has a more reasonably sized screen and therefore, much more room under the dash, and there's another spot for things in front of the console. The size of the 11.5" screen feels pretty necessarily large.
The Forester Wilderness takes the homely and turns it into hideous. But, it appears that the dark grey body color will disguise the overdone cladding fairly well. Yes, it does look goofy (like it needs larger wheels/tires to fill the wheel wells), but I'm interested in buying one.
Forester wilderness all day for me 😊
I really wish car companies would go back to having separate radios and HVAC. I can't imagine having a problem with the unit and you can't turn on your heat. I will say though that at least it doesn't look like a tablet stuck to the dash with chewing gum like a Toyota.
I want the Forester with the Outback’s turbo engine.
Outback’s a smoother ride and works well for car camping
The Outback is made here in America whereas the Forester is made in Japan for those who care.
I assume the engine and transmission come from one plant in Japan.
I checked Outback rear leg room and headroom couldn't find a vehicle with larger spec other than Ford Expedition, the only vehicle larger. Outback is also quieter than Forester btw. Forester handles much better and rides trails better.
Outback’s a smoother ride and works well for car camping. Longer flat floor space.
I want to point out one thing. The touch screen from subaru is 10x more responsive and tolerable than the toyota ones. I work at toyota and test drove a few subarus last week. Take that how you will
It’s more responsive than the old toyota ones for sure! The new toyota infotainment is as quick or quicker with MUCH BETTER screen resolution and brightness.
Can you turn off that eye sight safety off? I don't want it beeping at me.
Yes, you can also silence it
they need to bring back the turbo for the forester but I suspect they wont but create a hybrid instead
Those big infotainment screens that control so many features make me nervous. Have you ever driven a car with an infotainment screen that gets washed out in bright daylight?
I haven’t personally had this one get so bad to where I couldn’t see it but it’s definitely gotten washed out for me before. If they just gave it a much better screen and kept the controls they have surrounding it, this would be a nice setup, even if i may still preferred leaving the HVAC controls physical.
Honestly I’ve driven and been a passenger in both and I prefer the forester. I like the overall look more and how it’s taller. The outback trunk size is huge and if I needed that much storage space, I might be swayed. I’m on my second forester (2010 was my first and now I have a 2019). Must admit, I prefer the look of the older foresters, but for the price, the forester is the way to go in my opinion.
The side profile of the Outback, as a station-wagon, looks best. The upcoming Forester is nice, just not very unique.
I wish the forester has the turbo motor again. I have had the 2.5 and 2.0xt and love the xt. The 2.5 is a dog at higher altitude and in the mountains. I hated it. I guess it's fine if you don't care about that but to me it wasn't fun to drive and the xt is.
Has Subaru fixed the cracking windshields? It is a real issue, considering one has to have that eyesight gizmo recalibrated each time. Ah, the wonders of the modern world. Can they go 60K to 80K without the need to clean the direct injection engine? Will they develop oil burning before 100K miles recorded? The current Outback, aside of the Tupperware, looks great -- nice wagon. The 2025 Forester looks to be a winner. My Fusion has the non-turbo engine, and has not used a drop of oil, now at 80K, with no need to clean out any carbon deposits. I went 8 years on the original battery. Just wondering how the latest and greatest cars compare to those of today? BTW, I am liking the looks of the CrossTrek the most -- kinda sporty and might be best to zip about the town in.
Are you a member of the Bloomington Auto Club? I also live in B-town.
I am not, actually didn’t even know that existed!?
Own a 22 Fozzy sport.
I both love and hate how it’s “just right” for our needs. Ground clearance, airy-ness, practicality.
A bit miffed that we miss out on some (admittedly minor) creature comforts here down under (lumbar adjustment, cooled sears, the actual fricken Wilderness Trim)
I’d love the 2.4T on it (Subie please), but that’d probs guzzle up petrol more times than I can really enjoy the increase in power.
Wonder if the 2025 Outback has improved steering. Likely no big deal however.
I have a 2019 forester touring now and I love the room in the car but does anyone else struggle with the seats being extremely uncomfortable? I drive 90 miles a day and feel like it’s not the best. Wondering if Outback would have better seat comfort?
I haven’t had any personal issues with the forester seats but the Outback’s are certainly better for me and it seems like that is the general consensus too!
I have 2021 forester touring and find the seats very uncomfortable. Like the visibility that’s what sold us on it.
I have a 2014 forester XT. Not buying another Subaru until they introduce XT again. With lousy Cvt, we need some compensation.
The cvt and 4 cylinder sounds like a screeming lawn mower
I have a 2021 outback base, and it still has too much tech for me, constantly yells at me to stay in lane and look in the back seat. Can they do a fleet vehicle outback for even cheeper?!😂
I have a’15 outback that I specifically bought without that eyesight crap! My wife’s forester and daughter’s crosstrek and Impreza all have that crap standard and they are always yelling at me. I hate it! My wife has speed alert on hers so it also snitches on me too! Technology sucks
So true. I have a 2013 outback limited without eyesight and I just drove my parents 2023 ob premium and it's constantly beeping and yelling at me. My 2013 has Bluetooth and everything I honestly need to have a good experience without being intrusive.
Very well done comparison. As you mentioned the $2000 difference in price for the base models is a little misleading because the Outback comes with the roof rails and alloy wheels that cost extra on the Forester, plus you get two 7 inch infotainment screens and the rear spoiler.
I mentioned all of that just a couple minutes later. Just because I say a car is more expensive doesn’t mean I say it is a worse value!
Would the Forester be more expensive to insure, than a comparably equipped Outback, because it is an SUV?
No, it should be identical and largely based on the price of the car (unless a lot people tend to crash foresters more than outbacks)
Does anyone know the length from the back of a fully forward passenger seat to the inside of a closed hatch? Either model. Thanks.
Subaru puts that in their brochures, im 6’3 and laid down flat in the back of the outback with just enough space, forester is about 4 inches less.
@@Realistick Thank you.
Oops I think the Madza you had in the photo shots was Best looking
Mazda gave me back pains on a test drive.... I've been driving the outback for hours at a time with no complaints!
Outback ❤
My father just got a 22 Outback and it reminded me of a 2001 Passat my mother had: it’s a boring car! My Forester on the other hand is really fun to drive, i’ll choose Forester all the way. I had a 2014, now a 2019 and i don’t think i’ll ever buy another brand or model
Outback imo. The Forester maybe taller but a few millimeters doesn't do enough to even sit up correctly in the back if your over 5'8" lol And the second row seat has more head room. The only win for head room maybe in two front seats.
Forester is made in Japan. A huge upgrade over the u.s. built outback
I love forester, the best AWD system!!!!! (I don't care about the carplay, etc)
You’ve mentioned that you’d have taken an outback over forester, would it have been at turbo or regular version?
Either, though if i had to choose turbo or NA, I'd probably go NA for simplicity, however, I'm back and forth on that. I definitely do not feel the need to upgrade to the turbo with my elevation and usage, but it does add an element of luxury having effortless acceleration.
@@Realistick Yeap. I'm pretty tall 6'7'', so the extra height and the fact the forester is made in japan (so maybe it's more reliable) is a plus. But you also said you liked a sitting position in Outback better.
Just wanted to share my experience. I went from a 2017 Outback Premium trim level to the 2023 Onyx XT. I travel a lot for work, and the Turbo makes hwy and interstate driving a dream. It is so effortles to enter the freeway, pass cars, and merge. Its all personal preference, but I am happy with the XT, and it does add a certain level of excitement and fun when driving the quicker car...if I didn't have to travel so much, I would have given more thought to going with the non-turbo to save some money.
I would get the forester sport if it had other colors than bright orange. I steongly dislike the orange and my wife says its a definite no go for the orange. But Sports seem to be half of the used sales around here
Im debating between the crosstrek or forester 2023 (both premium)! Which would you recommend? Im a young adult looking to purchase his first car. I plan on mostly using my car for daily commutes (moving to a new state and unsure how long the commute is, maybe 20 min). But I am an outdoorsy person who will try to go snowboarding / camping/ hiking as often as I can. Thats why I am looking at subarus. That said, the only "big" differences I see are, price difference of ~$2-3k, much smaller cargo space for crosstrek, better view on forester, the 'smoother' acceleration on the forester at low gear, and in my opinion the crosstrek has a better exterior look, has a better sportier look. With such a small price difference, in terms of spec, forester wins but given that I am a young adult, any reduction is price is very appreciative. Also not sure how small the cargo space on the crosstrek is. I dont have anything planned but I can go on trips solo or with friends. Which would you recommend and any additional insights you can provide? Ive also looked at Rav4, CRV, etc, but the crv is too pricey, and the rav4 feels too cheap at the base model. Subaru seems the best bang for buck at the moment.
I’ve had Crosstreks as loaners and prefer the forester much better. I prefer the roomier size and the way the drivers seat is sat higher, however I’m also just used to a bigger car. If you don’t mind the size, the Crosstrek is definitely worth it especially with the price and driving either is fine 😊
Actually sad (and maybe funny) story. I had a 2023 Crosstrek for 6 days. I cheaped out and got the base so it came manual. Found it just wasn’t for me so I traded it in for a 2019 forester (my previous car was also a forester). Had the Crosstrek been bigger and more comfortable for me to drive I would have kept it even though I wasn’t a fan of the manual but I’m just more comfortable in a bigger car. Especially because I live in a city that everyone drives like maniacs in.
Also, trunk space is SMALL in a crosstrek compared to the forester. The center console and dash compartment are slightly smaller too, but the difference is not as bothersome.
@@kanalune thanks for the info! Yah I def am more comfortable with the forester size, but that means the transition to crosstrek wont be bad at all. Ive never driven a subaru before, and because of that wary of buying one. The extra space is a definite plus, but Im wondering if its still 'doable' on the crosstrek for any roadtrip, or snowboarding trips. maybe solo or with friends. Or if its not worth the hassle and paying the extra few for the forester. that said, i will be living solo for the most part and still using the car mostly for daily commute in a city (city doesnt get the worst weather). So im wondering if the forester is worth the extra buck. I just wish they made teh forester look nice
@@kanalune also, but who knows, my future plans are up in the air as I might move within 2 years to somewhere like denver colorado where subarus are def more appreciated. still figuring it all out. but im trying to learn more about the forester vs crosstrek before buying this weekend. Ive done all the research with the specs and test drove both too (short 2-3min drive), so i learned nothing from the test drive haha. but still conflicted
@@ChrisParkpartybus Subaru is definitely my brand of choice. I’ve had plenty of loaners from them (my old Subaru was in the shop a lot; it was over 200k miles) and I’ve driven almost every model. I’ve enjoyed the handling on them all and if it wasn’t so small I’d actually say the Impreza is my favorite besides the forester. I hate my moms Nissan Rogue and my dad has a Prius. I think you should definitely get the forester if you are going to need the space because I feel it would be uncomfortable to do a road trip in a crosstrek, but again I’m biased because I like a bigger car. I think the only major difference is the space and it’s worth the added money in my opinion. The sunroof option is also a game changer. That is now a must in any car I have 😅
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Do either come in manual transmission?
No.
They are both hard to look at IMO. The outback looks like an old school wagon while the Forester looks downright goofy. The crosstrek is actually good looking but alot smaller obviously.
So is it a lawn mower or motorboat sound? 🙃 Can I assume you just get used to it after a month or two? The Outback might be the last Cadillac -- comfort and sedan like ride.
Forester is MIJ with quality, so it is no brainer.
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I keep contacting Subaru customer outreach like twice a year to tell them to offer a dark green like Jeep's OD Green or Toyota's Army Green, as well as ventilated seats on the OBW. Make this foo look aggressive, no more baby-puke green. Also need ventilated seats on that model due to most of their clientele moving from cold northern states to Texas. C'mon everyone let's light up their consumer requests department!
I could get behind the green!
@@Realistick I just can’t bring myself to do the Autumn Green, I just can’t. 😭
@@CasualInTheTrees Agreed, but check out the Silica Cascade Green...almost an army green. Love it, but wish you could get it on the Sport.
@@adamsutton4811 I’ve seen it, though it looks nice, I feel that it’s more of a luxury-car color like a Lexus or Porsche. Not necessarily a Subaru
@@CasualInTheTrees Actually Trey, I think you hit it. That's why I gave up thinking about getting a Premium in CGS and then blacking everything out. The color needs a bit more yellow. Toyota's TRD in army green is killer.
I’ll take the Outback any day over the short stubby Forster
wagon vs minivan... depends what your hauling... too bad theres no turbo forrester... especially too bad theres no turbo crosstrek... just dont buy the CVT!!! its awful i made that mistakewith my current crosstrek... wont make it again... ive owned outback, impreza, wrx, and crosstrek... i really want a turbo crosstrek, with a manual transmission. CVT is god awful and always in the wrong "gear"
Plz get forester, outback is too low for seating gosh my knees are almost hitting every single time I seat in. Also build quality is way different, Forester super solid and outback super trash can build😅 so many rattles and rear bush squeaks in 3000 km new