I've seen about fifty different camera reviews and this was very helpful to me as I am keeping my Canon for photo and going to the FZ2500 for travel video. Thanks.
Derek, You are what I call A MEAT & POTATOES GUY; a straight shutter. This is the kind of report that I love to watch: no gimmicks, no post edition, no shitty background music...MEAT & POTATOES. Thanks for your time and thanks for sharing. I do hope to see your FZ-2500 testings in the following weeks. Keep us posted, please. Keep on sharing.
Derek, the Panasonic DMC-FZ2500 may be short of perfect but as you well know, when it comes to cameras, $1,000 doesn't buy perfect. Dollar for dollar, there is nothing on the market today that can compare to this camera.
I had the rx10m3 and loved it but returned it for all the same reasons that you mentioned... I think the Panasonic fz2500 should be the point and shoot camera of the year.. Hope you can do more vids on it.. Thanks you, have a great channel..
I am definitely switching my "goto" camera from a Canon T6S to this Panasonic FZ2500. I love this bad boy BECAUSE it is the first DSLR that is laid out and operates like a Video Camera and I'm a big video guy (past productions are 150-180 projects a year) BTW, too bad the Rode Video Micro isn't a condenser. If it were I'd say the dynamic audio range would have greater fidelity.
Thanks for sharing. Bought FZ2500 as B camera to my GH5 for its amazing 480mm tele zoom. I'll use them for travelling and I don't have to change lens if I want to shoot wide or tele.
Hey, I know this video is older, but I have a question, and I couldn't find it anywhere on the internet. *Does the Panasonic FZ 2500 record sound when recording 120fps?* Because that is essential for me, (I don't want to record separately, too much work to do with 100+ clips) because I'm looking at a camera that can do that, that isn't a go pro or a phone. I would be happy for an answer, thanks.
I. Now have the rx10 3 and wouldn't change for anything, got one at a good price and for my video needs it's more than I need but it's a much better stills camera, iq is exceptional for a bridge camera, superior to the fz2000, depends on your needs
Hey Derek. Have you tested the FZ2500 to record Full HD beyond 30 minutes without stopping? Like say record a 1 hour talk. Coz if it does, I will get this baby. Thanks.
I am quite confused between fz2500 and canon m50 .. I shoot lot of videos and very very rare photos.. So which one should i consider fz2500 or canon m50..???
Hi....I just purchased this yesterday and was wondering......if you tilt the camera forward the back again real quick FZ2500, can you feel something move inside the camera........
Pleasure listening to the review and decided to upgrade from the FZ200's when I can. Interested in the name of the Rode Mic also as I am in UK and wonder if available here
Thanks Derek I have the Rode Pro on my FZ200 and will get this for my wife's FZ200. I have been trying to decide between the FZ2,000 and the GH5 for the next camera, have you any opinion? I do a lot of travelling.
Hi Derek. Thank you for your video. May i ask for a comparison between the FZ-1000 and the FZ-2000. Do you think the FZ-2000 is really worth the extra $$?
one of the main advantages would be the ND Filters and the Zoom Range as well as the Smooth Zoom . if you do not find you care for these features then the FZ1000 is still a great camera. There again is the price difference between the two cameras. If the gap is marginal then I would not hesitate to go for the newer model.
excellent video, was looking at the rx10iii for the 600mm but it's well overpriced, just bought the fz2000 as it is in the uk for £899, £500 cheaper than the Sony. Imo the fz has all the features the Sony should have at its price point but lacks them.
***** The RX is an excellent camera no doubt, I'll probably add one when the price drops a bit but I do believe it should have some of the features the fz has brought to the table that it lacks which imo doesn't quite justify it's price
***** The RX is an excellent camera no doubt, I'll probably add one when the price drops a bit but I do believe it should have some of the features the fz has brought to the table that it lacks which imo doesn't quite justify it's price, especially as it actually went up £200 in price last year.
Instead of just talking about features, you should show a side by side video comparison with crops and in various conditions. RX10 should have more detailed 4K image due to whole sensor 5K readout (FZ2000 crops the sensor while recording 4K). Bigger sensor area should also give better bokeh, low-light performance and the overall IQ. You have a great occasion to do a first comparison of these cameras and you just talk about things that we can check in specs...
I recommend you Nikon Lens Simulator. It's an online tool, where you can see how the image looks at different focal lengths. The difference between 480 and 600 mm is smaller than most people think ;)
Thank you gentlemen for the comments. You are indeed right, I should have done a comparison with various crops but i have to apologize as I had already sold the RX10 M3 to it's new buyer and i had very limited time remaining with it thus unable to do more comparisons.
Diego no worries mate! I would have love to compare if given the opportunity but just bad timing the new owner was leaving on a vacation hence had to do a quick video. Anyway even if the RX10 M4 has a touch screen I am pretty sure it will not perform as well as the Panny. I have tested the A6500 touch screen and it is quite a joke really! Nevertheless, if they added ND filters, touch and 5k i might just hop back to the SONY as well. :)
2:00 All well and good but you don't tell us why you need a flip out screen. This is the main reason I will not buy the FZ2000 instead of the Sony. Unlike you I will explain my reasons.... I just can't bear working with a flip out screen like Canon and Panasonic (I use those as examples as people tend to get mixed up when discussing screens). So, for photography and example...I am working in a fast paced, pressurised situation, often in a confined space. I have the camera at my eye and I see that I need to shoot quickly from a low angle. With the flippy out screen I will need to bring over my left hand, pull it out from the back, flip it around, re-align it, then I have to constantly look to my left away from the direction of my subject. Then if I 'think' I may need to shoot from low down again very soon I have to make the decision to leave it out, which in a lot of situations makes me conspicuous... or alternatively I re-align, twist and place it back having to use two hands in the process...then quickly I have to pull it out, twist, re-align and look away again...or leave it out which also nearly doubles the width of the camera...then repeat and repeat....or alternatively I spend the next 20 mins with the screen permanently out like an idiot. With the current screen on the Sony's, the Nikons and the Fujifilm's I can lower the camera very quickly and ease the screen out with a finger, then back with a finger if I wish to. I remain inconspicuous, the camera width is not affected and I don't have to walk around with the screen permanently out. It is massively quicker, massively more discreet and massively more convenient. For video the tilt out screen is even less convenient because you never shoot vertically. The only benefit I see with the tilt out sceen is for vlogging and the way I see it is that's why Sony may relent because the Vloggers like you have the voice, all over RUclips the (I won't say stupid, I say selfish) Vloggers are screaming for the flip out screen because it benefits them, in my eyes it certainly doesn't benefit photographers and filmmakers...it is a burden. Now all the above is my opinion and I do feel strongly about it, I am not saying others shouldn't feel strongly about a flip outs screen...but if you haven't used one in a fast moving stressful enironment then honestly be careful what you wish for.
Buy a darn screen and put it on the Sony RX10, I got the Panasonic and the screen already gone totally dark, seems like the screen only lasted one year of using then burned out
I'm really considering this, but I'm torn between two very different options. How are you supposed to choose between a FZ2500 and a GX8? In my market they're about the same price with the cheap 14-42mm lens on the GX8, or not much more to upgrade to the 14-140mm powerzoom. Similar feature set but with obvious trade offs; to get similar zoom levels I'd have to buy a lens worth more than the rest of the kit combined, but I keep coming back to the weatherproofing of the GX8, and the larger sensor given I'd like to try nightscapes and astrophotography. Does anyone have any advice? Does the cheap 14-140mm lens produce a noticeable improvement over this all in one solution? Or would that be halving your zoom capabilities and spending a little extra for no real benefit?
your question on how you are supposed to choose between an FZ2500 and GX8 ?? honestly, there is really totally no wrong or right answer and there will be surely trade-offs always as there is no perfect camera. but if it helps i would ask myself the following. 1) bridge camera or interchangeable lens? 2) is the flip out screen more important to you? 3) is the presence of mic in and headphone jacks more important to you? 4) 1-inch sensor or the micro 4/3rds larger 5) is the size of the camera important? hope the above helps you in a more informed decision. Cheers!!!
Thanks! 1) Form factor isn't important to me, I'm only interested in image/video results. 2) Both are the same. 3) Both have a mic, which is the only I might use. 5) Both end up about the same size/weight with a lens or two on the GX8. So it all comes down to 4... Does the bigger sensor really do that much? Or put another way, do the cheaper lenses that make these two options comparable in price detract from the benefits? I guess it would be hard to tell without a side by side comparison of the exact setup in various situations...
I've seen about fifty different camera reviews and this was very helpful to me as I am keeping my Canon for photo and going to the FZ2500 for travel video. Thanks.
you are most welcome Howard and thank you very much. I am happy it helped!
Derek,
You are what I call A MEAT & POTATOES GUY; a straight shutter.
This is the kind of report that I love to watch: no gimmicks, no post edition, no shitty background music...MEAT & POTATOES.
Thanks for your time and thanks for sharing.
I do hope to see your FZ-2500 testings in the following weeks.
Keep us posted, please.
Keep on sharing.
thank you and glad you found the video useful.
Just discovered you Derek and I'm glad I did. I could understand and it is obvious you love your work. Cheers.
That quick/slow function looks great.
thank you Derek! I enjoyed your review on the FZ2500....I think I'm sold on that.
Derek, the Panasonic DMC-FZ2500 may be short of perfect but as you well know, when it comes to cameras, $1,000 doesn't buy perfect. Dollar for dollar, there is nothing on the market today that can compare to this camera.
Agree 100%
I had the rx10m3 and loved it but returned it for all the same reasons that you mentioned... I think the Panasonic fz2500 should be the point and shoot camera of the year.. Hope you can do more vids on it.. Thanks you, have a great channel..
Thank you George and hope you have a great year!!
Diego Diaz but it would probably then cost $500 more than the panny.
I am finding out that the fz2500 lens is not as sharp as the rx10m3 .. I might switch back to Sony..
I would have to agree with you in terms of sharpness the RX10 M3 is definitely sharper.
Derek Yeo it seems to vary with many it's just as sharp, think there maybe a quality control issue.
VERY good review! Thanks so much! I would be interested in your comparison between the FX2500 and the RX10 m4.
Great review! Thank you for pointing out all the important points in a very comprehensible way.
thank you very much and happy the video helps.
I am definitely switching my "goto" camera from a Canon T6S to this Panasonic FZ2500. I love this bad boy BECAUSE it is the first DSLR that is laid out and operates like a Video Camera and I'm a big video guy (past productions are 150-180 projects a year) BTW, too bad the Rode Video Micro isn't a condenser. If it were I'd say the dynamic audio range would have greater fidelity.
Thanks for sharing. Bought FZ2500 as B camera to my GH5 for its amazing 480mm tele zoom. I'll use them for travelling and I don't have to change lens if I want to shoot wide or tele.
Do you use it for stills (landscape, macro, street?) :-)
Hey, I know this video is older, but I have a question, and I couldn't find it anywhere on the internet. *Does the Panasonic FZ 2500 record sound when recording 120fps?* Because that is essential for me, (I don't want to record separately, too much work to do with 100+ clips) because I'm looking at a camera that can do that, that isn't a go pro or a phone. I would be happy for an answer, thanks.
An excellent review, well put, informative and to the point. Well done
Great info here, I own the camera and found out some new features. Thanks.
great video
thanks for the review allot of info...
thank you very much for watching..
good review, seems the pana lumix is hard to beat, wonder how we'll be spoilt with the fz2500 replacement...overloaded truck of goodies probably
Thank you very much!
Whats about Sonny RX 10 IV? The image's quality is comparable?
Thank you for the review
you are most welcome
I. Now have the rx10 3 and wouldn't change for anything, got one at a good price and for my video needs it's more than I need but it's a much better stills camera, iq is exceptional for a bridge camera, superior to the fz2000, depends on your needs
Hey Derek. Have you tested the FZ2500 to record Full HD beyond 30 minutes without stopping? Like say record a 1 hour talk. Coz if it does, I will get this baby. Thanks.
OK confirmed bro no issues did 200 mbits all intra .mov more than an hour no issues..
Thanks! Looks like this thing is better than a regular camcorder.
excellent, thankyou
Audio much better with the Rode
Hi Derek. I think your title is supposed to say "of" instead of "or". Cheers. Nice review by the way
thank you for bringing to my attention on the typo. Cheers!!!
what about comparing it with g85 and sony a6500 or the olympus omd m5 mkII ?
When is somebody going to do a video on the FZ2500 for doing stills and video of ball sports, particularly burst or continuous shooting of stills?
Great review! Thanks!
Thank you very much!!!
glad it could help!!
I am quite confused between fz2500 and canon m50 .. I shoot lot of videos and very very rare photos.. So which one should i consider fz2500 or canon m50..???
Tha Man my Friend thank you
Hi....I just purchased this yesterday and was wondering......if you tilt the camera forward the back again real quick FZ2500, can you feel something move inside the camera........
Thank you Derek for your FZ2500 vidéo
My question in comparaison I like LUMIX FZ300 and the FZ2500, budget wise...no problem
Which one be best ?
Sir which one you suggest very friendly
Hey, this Video ist really great and helpful!!!
thank you !
Pleasure listening to the review and decided to upgrade from the FZ200's when I can. Interested in the name of the Rode Mic also as I am in UK and wonder if available here
Thank you very much, Yes,it is the RODE MICRO!
Thanks Derek I have the Rode Pro on my FZ200 and will get this for my wife's FZ200. I have been trying to decide between the FZ2,000 and the GH5 for the next camera, have you any opinion? I do a lot of travelling.
Bro, how much is it selling in Singapore? Nelson, New Zealand
Hi Derek. Thank you for your video.
May i ask for a comparison between the FZ-1000 and the FZ-2000. Do you think the FZ-2000 is really worth the extra $$?
one of the main advantages would be the ND Filters and the Zoom Range as well as the Smooth Zoom . if you do not find you care for these features then the FZ1000 is still a great camera. There again is the price difference between the two cameras. If the gap is marginal then I would not hesitate to go for the newer model.
I have on preorder soon to arrive the nikon p1000 that blows both of these away :-)
excellent video, was looking at the rx10iii for the 600mm but it's well overpriced, just bought the fz2000 as it is in the uk for £899, £500 cheaper than the Sony. Imo the fz has all the features the Sony should have at its price point but lacks them.
***** The RX is an excellent camera no doubt, I'll probably add one when the price drops a bit but I do believe it should have some of the features the fz has brought to the table that it lacks which imo doesn't quite justify it's price
***** The RX is an excellent camera no doubt, I'll probably add one when the price drops a bit but I do believe it should have some of the features the fz has brought to the table that it lacks which imo doesn't quite justify it's price, especially as it actually went up £200 in price last year.
Totally and completely concur.
can youtell me where you bought fz2000 for £899 please peter
hoog111 Panasonic outlet, ebay
Instead of just talking about features, you should show a side by side video comparison with crops and in various conditions. RX10 should have more detailed 4K image due to whole sensor 5K readout (FZ2000 crops the sensor while recording 4K). Bigger sensor area should also give better bokeh, low-light performance and the overall IQ.
You have a great occasion to do a first comparison of these cameras and you just talk about things that we can check in specs...
I recommend you Nikon Lens Simulator. It's an online tool, where you can see how the image looks at different focal lengths. The difference between 480 and 600 mm is smaller than most people think ;)
Thank you gentlemen for the comments. You are indeed right, I should have done a comparison with various crops but i have to apologize as I had already sold the RX10 M3 to it's new buyer and i had very limited time remaining with it thus unable to do more comparisons.
Diego no worries mate! I would have love to compare if given the opportunity but just bad timing the new owner was leaving on a vacation hence had to do a quick video. Anyway even if the RX10 M4 has a touch screen I am pretty sure it will not perform as well as the Panny. I have tested the A6500 touch screen and it is quite a joke really! Nevertheless, if they added ND filters, touch and 5k i might just hop back to the SONY as well. :)
2:00 All well and good but you don't tell us why you need a flip out screen. This is the main reason I will not buy the FZ2000 instead of the Sony.
Unlike you I will explain my reasons....
I just can't bear working with a flip out screen like Canon and Panasonic (I use those as examples as people tend to get mixed up when discussing screens).
So, for photography and example...I am working in a fast paced, pressurised situation, often in a confined space. I have the camera at my eye and I see that I need to shoot quickly from a low angle.
With the flippy out screen I will need to bring over my left hand, pull it out from the back, flip it around, re-align it, then I have to constantly look to my left away from the direction of my subject. Then if I 'think' I may need to shoot from low down again very soon I have to make the decision to leave it out, which in a lot of situations makes me conspicuous... or alternatively I re-align, twist and place it back having to use two hands in the process...then quickly I have to pull it out, twist, re-align and look away again...or leave it out which also nearly doubles the width of the camera...then repeat and repeat....or alternatively I spend the next 20 mins with the screen permanently out like an idiot.
With the current screen on the Sony's, the Nikons and the Fujifilm's I can lower the camera very quickly and ease the screen out with a finger, then back with a finger if I wish to. I remain inconspicuous, the camera width is not affected and I don't have to walk around with the screen permanently out. It is massively quicker, massively more discreet and massively more convenient.
For video the tilt out screen is even less convenient because you never shoot vertically.
The only benefit I see with the tilt out sceen is for vlogging and the way I see it is that's why Sony may relent because the Vloggers like you have the voice, all over RUclips the (I won't say stupid, I say selfish) Vloggers are screaming for the flip out screen because it benefits them, in my eyes it certainly doesn't benefit photographers and filmmakers...it is a burden.
Now all the above is my opinion and I do feel strongly about it, I am not saying others shouldn't feel strongly about a flip outs screen...but if you haven't used one in a fast moving stressful enironment then honestly be careful what you wish for.
In the UK this can be had for £699/$800 and a £200/$250 cashback. £499/580 is an absolute bargain.
Buy a darn screen and put it on the Sony RX10, I got the Panasonic and the screen already gone totally dark, seems like the screen only lasted one year of using then burned out
I'm really considering this, but I'm torn between two very different options.
How are you supposed to choose between a FZ2500 and a GX8?
In my market they're about the same price with the cheap 14-42mm lens on the GX8, or not much more to upgrade to the 14-140mm powerzoom.
Similar feature set but with obvious trade offs; to get similar zoom levels I'd have to buy a lens worth more than the rest of the kit combined, but I keep coming back to the weatherproofing of the GX8, and the larger sensor given I'd like to try nightscapes and astrophotography.
Does anyone have any advice? Does the cheap 14-140mm lens produce a noticeable improvement over this all in one solution? Or would that be halving your zoom capabilities and spending a little extra for no real benefit?
your question on how you are supposed to choose between an FZ2500 and GX8 ??
honestly, there is really totally no wrong or right answer and there will be surely trade-offs always as there is no perfect camera. but if it helps i would ask myself the following.
1) bridge camera or interchangeable lens?
2) is the flip out screen more important to you?
3) is the presence of mic in and headphone jacks more important to you?
4) 1-inch sensor or the micro 4/3rds larger
5) is the size of the camera important?
hope the above helps you in a more informed decision. Cheers!!!
Thanks!
1) Form factor isn't important to me, I'm only interested in image/video results.
2) Both are the same.
3) Both have a mic, which is the only I might use.
5) Both end up about the same size/weight with a lens or two on the GX8.
So it all comes down to 4...
Does the bigger sensor really do that much? Or put another way, do the cheaper lenses that make these two options comparable in price detract from the benefits? I guess it would be hard to tell without a side by side comparison of the exact setup in various situations...