Great video - by the way, one unstated advantage of your sequence of play cards is the repetition. Like flashcards, repetition using the cards ultimately teach the sequence and helps the player absorb them.
Great video Stuka Joe - and from my own experience the sequence of play cards for both the Eagle and Lion games are excellent and really help the player to follow the required steps. RAF - currently my favourite game.
Thanks a bunch for all the work you've done Stuka Joe. If you are looking for a game suggestion, how about visiting "The Hardest Days" by Decision Games and maybe some Sequence of Play cards will come to us :)
En este video Stuka Joe tienes los subtitulos desactivados, el marcador es el segundo a mano izquierda, reproduccion automatica, subtitulos no disponibles, configuracion, minireproductor, modo cine y pantalla completa.
Hi Joe, Another great video, excellent explanations and more of your great trademark play aids. Thanks! As another PowerPoint-as-graphics abuser, I wonder if it would be helpful if your layout had the cards adjacent to one another (as well as PPT can). I think this might help eliminate the slight misalignments. Thank you for your contributions to our hobby Joe!
Thanks, Jack. I appreciate it. I have considered placing 8 card images to each page. The problem with PowerPoint is the alignment process. When I printed a page with 8 cards, the card border was never perfectly aligned and it ate space from another card. I am currently taking tutorials of Adobe InDesign, since I want to make more cards for wargames. The alignment should be no problem. However, I found a way for Powerpoint cards to come out better. The trick is to make the back sides slightly larger (let's say 3.6 x 2.6 inches: the extra .1 on each side is what is called the "bleed" area, which is a .1 inch margin of error given to the printer. The front side will still be 3.5 x 2.5 inches with a dotted line, so players cut the cards using the front sides. I have to do version 1.7 of the Eagle cards to fix one of the cards, so I'll try this with the new version. Thanks for your support, Jack. Cheers. Joe
InDesign? Wow, heavy duty. You'll never look at PowerPoint again. :) I'd like to kick in $20 to cover one month of the subscription. Please pass me your email address over on BGG and I'll paypal it.
Don't worry, Jack. InDesign has a learning curve, but it looks tremendous in helping create great templates for cards and other wargaming play aid. It'll take me a while before I start actually doing cards with it, but I'm looking forward to it.
Great run through as always did you find this or lion the more enjoyable game ? One small point at 40.43 when you roll the dice you look up combat results using the box below and not the one selected
Joe. Thank you for putting these together. I pulled this out and am finding it so much more enjoyable. I do have a question for you. Step 13; Hunter Interception, your card on the second bullet says if the resultant roll is
You are right! I misstated the rule on the card. It should read that if the die roll is equal or less than the number of excess squadrons, the squadrons stay in the Hunt Box. The card mistakenly says that in that situation, the squadrons move to the Bomber Box. I'm almost certain, then, that I screwed up in the video: I remember rolling higher than the excess number (which was "1") and leaving the excess squadron in the Hunt Box. No worries. I'll correct this with version 1.7 of the cards. Thank you so much for pointing this out to me. I want to have the cards to be all correct (eventually!). Glad that you find the cards useful. Thanks, John.
Awesome Pardon my ignorance but can you give a detailed account of how to make these cards. My first attempts had the wrong back and front association. Mike
Shure, Mike. I believe you have the wrong back associations because you are printing one of the sides of the cards first and then printing the other sides. If you are going to print them yourself, you can print them using the two-sided option. However, if you want to print, let's say, the back sides first, print first the even sides: pages 2,4,6,8,10,12. Then place the printed stack on the tray, in the same order they came out, to be printed again, this time the odd sides in reverse order: pages 11,9,7,5,3,1. I recommend going to a store (e.g. Office Depot) to print the cards in cardstock paper, standard letter size (8 1/2" x 11"). They should be printed back-sided (2-sided). Make shure that they are printed in their original size; if the "Fit to Size" box is selected, it will ruin the alignment of the cards. After printing them, check them by placing them in front of a strong light to ensure that alignment is acceptable. Alignment is usually never perfect, but it should be at least off by no more than 1/32". Then, have them laminated. That's it. I do the cards in PowerPoint, which has its limitations in obtaining perfect card alignment. I Hope this helps. Please let me know how it went. Version 1.6 cards are available in BGG's file page for the game. Hope you enjoy them. Cheers!
Would you recommend this to someone new to this type of game using the components you get as standard in the box, or would it be wise to print the cards you're using to learn how to play?
I would recommend any person new to the game to read the rules once and then play the game using these cards, consulting the rules when needed. With repetition, the player will be checking the rules less times. There are a lot of phases, but they are logical and they repeat themselves often.
You asked me about the cards in Google+, which, for some reason, I can't access now. The cards were made using PowerPoint, which has very powerful graphic design qualities. I printed them on cardstock and had them laminated, cut with scissors and rounded the corners with a corner cutter. Glad you like the cards!
Hi Joe. I have only played the original version of the game (which, as you know, only allows you to play as the British). As I recall, your main decision was whether to try and intercept every raid or perhaps let some go by (this was a battle of attrition). What kind of choices are you able to make as the German player? I guess I was surprised to see that the target priorities could be so easily changed by the game mechanics (simulating Hitler's interventions, as you pointed out).
This was the first time I played the Eagle version. I like it a lot, too. The German Eagle version allows you a certain degree of planning, after you filter out all cards that are "No Raids" according to target type priorities. My plan was to try to knock out radars nets in the morning raids, so that the afternoon raids would be harder to detect. Also, I drew two cards with the same raid location. I decided to conduct a fighter sweep as the first raid, in hopes of the drawing the RAF early, so that the next raid on the target, which, was still a morning raid, had a better chance of less RAF fighters showing up. Target priorities will change, as was the case historically.
I played this game a couple of years ago and though I really enjoyed it, I found the rules very difficult to grasp. I'm sure your sequence of play cards would have been a huge benefit.
Thank you, cbblackard. The game can seem complicated, given the number of charts, tables and segments in a turn. However, I believe that these kind of cards can certainly help ease the learning curve, since you follow each segment by flipping cards and thus, using these cards, after a couple of turns, you should be able to play the game with minimal rules consultations. T For me, it helps the game flow better. I didn't have to consult the rules that much (for a first-time play).
I'm positive the West End RAF game won't use Eagle cards, but do you think the RAF lion cards will work for the old West End Game and if so, what modifications will be necessary?
I believe they won’t work with the West End Games edition. For one, that original edition has units divided by 2 selector letters (A and B), the Decision games edition uses 3 (A, B and C).
I made it up myself. I assembled it on a 42" wide drawing table. I attached three camera sliders to it. There are two 33" slides (friction-action), which go vertically, each is attached to each side of the drawing table, using some wood to give it some height (to make sure the slides clear any standees or large stacks of counters). One 42" slide (ball-bearing action) which, in turn, is attached at each end to both vertical slides. I bought everything on Amazon. I also use a Manfrotto fluid head to hold the camera and allow for some smooth panning. It is a project, but I'm very happy with it. No stumbling of counters.
The Sequence of Play Cards are not included with the game. They are downloadable at Board Game Geek (BGG). Here is the link: boardgamegeek.com/filepage/141508/raf-sequence-play-cards-lion-and-eagle-versions
My best recollection is that the rules require the player to select evenly among squadrons so, as possible, there are the same number of squadrons with different selector letters.
¿ Cual es la estrategia y tactica del juego? ¿ Cuales son las opciones o decisiones diferentes que se pueden tomar ? ¿ gestion de recursos ? ¿ que es lo que hay que pensar y meditar ? es que parece un tiradados basicamente... Muchas gracias.
Es prácticamente cuántos y qué escuadrones quieres enviar a interceptar. Vas a empezar a perder pilotos. Tienes que decidir cómo usar los Spitfires y Hurricanes en situaciones de incursiones de bombarderos con escolta. Si juegas como los alemanes, planeas las incursiones, que grupos de bombarderos y cazas asignas a cada incursión.
Great video - by the way, one unstated advantage of your sequence of play cards is the repetition. Like flashcards, repetition using the cards ultimately teach the sequence and helps the player absorb them.
Thanks for creating the Lion sequence of play cards.
Great video Stuka Joe - and from my own experience the sequence of play cards for both the Eagle and Lion games are excellent and really help the player to follow the required steps. RAF - currently my favourite game.
Thanks, Secretwargamer. I'm glad they're helpful. I kind of surmised RAF could be your favorite game, based on your thumbnail pic. Nice Spit! Cheers!
Fantastic, the cards look very useful, I am printing them out and using them in my next play!!
Thanks a bunch for all the work you've done Stuka Joe. If you are looking for a game suggestion, how about visiting "The Hardest Days" by Decision Games and maybe some Sequence of Play cards will come to us :)
We know you're a busy man, but it would be so good to have a set for the 2-player game!
En este video Stuka Joe tienes los subtitulos desactivados, el marcador es el segundo a mano izquierda, reproduccion automatica, subtitulos no disponibles, configuracion, minireproductor, modo cine y pantalla completa.
Hi Joe, Another great video, excellent explanations and more of your great trademark play aids. Thanks! As another PowerPoint-as-graphics abuser, I wonder if it would be helpful if your layout had the cards adjacent to one another (as well as PPT can). I think this might help eliminate the slight misalignments.
Thank you for your contributions to our hobby Joe!
Thanks, Jack. I appreciate it. I have considered placing 8 card images to each page. The problem with PowerPoint is the alignment process. When I printed a page with 8 cards, the card border was never perfectly aligned and it ate space from another card. I am currently taking tutorials of Adobe InDesign, since I want to make more cards for wargames. The alignment should be no problem. However, I found a way for Powerpoint cards to come out better. The trick is to make the back sides slightly larger (let's say 3.6 x 2.6 inches: the extra .1 on each side is what is called the "bleed" area, which is a .1 inch margin of error given to the printer. The front side will still be 3.5 x 2.5 inches with a dotted line, so players cut the cards using the front sides. I have to do version 1.7 of the Eagle cards to fix one of the cards, so I'll try this with the new version. Thanks for your support, Jack. Cheers.
Joe
InDesign? Wow, heavy duty. You'll never look at PowerPoint again. :) I'd like to kick in $20 to cover one month of the subscription. Please pass me your email address over on BGG and I'll paypal it.
Don't worry, Jack. InDesign has a learning curve, but it looks tremendous in helping create great templates for cards and other wargaming play aid. It'll take me a while before I start actually doing cards with it, but I'm looking forward to it.
Ah hi my friend I’m so impressed that you survived the war
Great run through as always did you find this or lion the more enjoyable game ?
One small point at 40.43 when you roll the dice you look up combat results using the box below and not the one selected
Joe. Thank you for putting these together. I pulled this out and am finding it so much more enjoyable. I do have a question for you. Step 13; Hunter Interception, your card on the second bullet says if the resultant roll is
You are right! I misstated the rule on the card. It should read that if the die roll is equal or less than the number of excess squadrons, the squadrons stay in the Hunt Box. The card mistakenly says that in that situation, the squadrons move to the Bomber Box. I'm almost certain, then, that I screwed up in the video: I remember rolling higher than the excess number (which was "1") and leaving the excess squadron in the Hunt Box. No worries. I'll correct this with version 1.7 of the cards. Thank you so much for pointing this out to me. I want to have the cards to be all correct (eventually!). Glad that you find the cards useful. Thanks, John.
Awesome
Pardon my ignorance but can you give a detailed account of how to make these cards. My first attempts had the wrong back and front association. Mike
Shure, Mike. I believe you have the wrong back associations because you are printing one of the sides of the cards first and then printing the other sides. If you are going to print them yourself, you can print them using the two-sided option. However, if you want to print, let's say, the back sides first, print first the even sides: pages 2,4,6,8,10,12. Then place the printed stack on the tray, in the same order they came out, to be printed again, this time the odd sides in reverse order: pages 11,9,7,5,3,1.
I recommend going to a store (e.g. Office Depot) to print the cards in cardstock paper, standard letter size (8 1/2" x 11"). They should be printed back-sided (2-sided). Make shure that they are printed in their original size; if the "Fit to Size" box is selected, it will ruin the alignment of the cards. After printing them, check them by placing them in front of a strong light to ensure that alignment is acceptable. Alignment is usually never perfect, but it should be at least off by no more than 1/32". Then, have them laminated. That's it. I do the cards in PowerPoint, which has its limitations in obtaining perfect card alignment. I Hope this helps. Please let me know how it went. Version 1.6 cards are available in BGG's file page for the game. Hope you enjoy them. Cheers!
Would you recommend this to someone new to this type of game using the components you get as standard in the box, or would it be wise to print the cards you're using to learn how to play?
I would recommend any person new to the game to read the rules once and then play the game using these cards, consulting the rules when needed. With repetition, the player will be checking the rules less times. There are a lot of phases, but they are logical and they repeat themselves often.
You asked me about the cards in Google+, which, for some reason, I can't access now. The cards were made using PowerPoint, which has very powerful graphic design qualities. I printed them on cardstock and had them laminated, cut with scissors and rounded the corners with a corner cutter. Glad you like the cards!
Thanks for the advice I will probably make those up before I can find a copy of the game. Not to many places sale it over here.
Hi Joe. I have only played the original version of the game (which, as you know, only allows you to play as the British). As I recall, your main decision was whether to try and intercept every raid or perhaps let some go by (this was a battle of attrition). What kind of choices are you able to make as the German player? I guess I was surprised to see that the target priorities could be so easily changed by the game mechanics (simulating Hitler's interventions, as you pointed out).
This was the first time I played the Eagle version. I like it a lot, too. The German Eagle version allows you a certain degree of planning, after you filter out all cards that are "No Raids" according to target type priorities. My plan was to try to knock out radars nets in the morning raids, so that the afternoon raids would be harder to detect. Also, I drew two cards with the same raid location. I decided to conduct a fighter sweep as the first raid, in hopes of the drawing the RAF early, so that the next raid on the target, which, was still a morning raid, had a better chance of less RAF fighters showing up. Target priorities will change, as was the case historically.
Thx Joe. Much appreciated
Where did you get the small glass cubes that you are using to denote patrolling aircraft?
I played this game a couple of years ago and though I really enjoyed it, I found the rules very difficult to grasp. I'm sure your sequence of play cards would have been a huge benefit.
Thank you, cbblackard. The game can seem complicated, given the number of charts, tables and segments in a turn. However, I believe that these kind of cards can certainly help ease the learning curve, since you follow each segment by flipping cards and thus, using these cards, after a couple of turns, you should be able to play the game with minimal rules consultations. T For me, it helps the game flow better. I didn't have to consult the rules that much (for a first-time play).
I'm positive the West End RAF game won't use Eagle cards, but do you think the RAF lion cards will work for the old West End Game and if so, what modifications will be necessary?
I believe they won’t work with the West End Games edition. For one, that original edition has units divided by 2 selector letters (A and B), the Decision games edition uses 3 (A, B and C).
Good Job Soldier!
WHere did you get your camera stand?
I made it up myself. I assembled it on a 42" wide drawing table. I attached three camera sliders to it. There are two 33" slides (friction-action), which go vertically, each is attached to each side of the drawing table, using some wood to give it some height (to make sure the slides clear any standees or large stacks of counters). One 42" slide (ball-bearing action) which, in turn, is attached at each end to both vertical slides. I bought everything on Amazon. I also use a Manfrotto fluid head to hold the camera and allow for some smooth panning. It is a project, but I'm very happy with it. No stumbling of counters.
Ah-so. Nice!
Stuka Joe I like both card and camera setup. Next on my list, still trying to find a method to make to the cards.
are the sequence of play cards custom made or part of the new edition of the game ?
The sequence of play cards are custom made. I wish they had come with the game so I didn't have to make them! Cheers.
thanks, great video !
Just bought this game, but i dont have these sequence cards!? Are they in an earlier version or special printed?
The Sequence of Play Cards are not included with the game. They are downloadable at Board Game Geek (BGG). Here is the link:
boardgamegeek.com/filepage/141508/raf-sequence-play-cards-lion-and-eagle-versions
Thanks Stuka Joe! Love your playthroughs! They are the best!👍
hi joe, how do you decide whether to take A, B or C ???
My best recollection is that the rules require the player to select evenly among squadrons so, as possible, there are the same number of squadrons with different selector letters.
I'm interested in buying this game but don't seem to find a copy anywhere. I live in the UK. Can someone help ?
Not cheap but shop.decisiongames.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=1019
¿ Cual es la estrategia y tactica del juego? ¿ Cuales son las opciones o decisiones diferentes que se pueden tomar ? ¿ gestion de recursos ? ¿ que es lo que hay que pensar y meditar ? es que parece un tiradados basicamente... Muchas gracias.
Es prácticamente cuántos y qué escuadrones quieres enviar a interceptar. Vas a empezar a perder pilotos. Tienes que decidir cómo usar los Spitfires y Hurricanes en situaciones de incursiones de bombarderos con escolta. Si juegas como los alemanes, planeas las incursiones, que grupos de bombarderos y cazas asignas a cada incursión.
Is it allowed to just add fighters to a raid!?