i absolutely love this BB, had to sell it to buy the bismarck but soon as i racked up credits i bought it again a few days ago. it’s still one beast brawler and it’s even more potent with the recent buff. and CA’s never expect those torps lol
Stefan Stoian oh yeah definitely. wish WG would buff all german BB dispersion again. it’s really needed tbh literally no love for german bb line at all..💔 i have to play defensively and rely on my other team mates to snipe and it pisses me tf off.
Well it is a Russian game! Lol But yes the German tech tree in general is overlooked! That’s the reason why I kept all German ships tier III and above. So overlooked and underrated, while the American and Japanese lines are very overrated with so many ships!
If you aim for the center of broadside, the 2 shells of same turret would land in front of bow and behind stern.........garbage dispersion..... but really beautiful ship.
I love the Gneisenau! I see the Kriegsmarine finally gave her the Bismarck-class type guns she so rightfully deserves. I mean she was the last German battleship standing by the end of WW2!
Yeah they used her as a block ship against the Russians. Such a sad fate. It would have been more honorable if she fell in battle with a last stand against the British and Americans. The same goes for Tirpitz too Instead of being capsized in a fjord.
@@stevenmoore4612 by "last man standing" did you mean "last target for the RAF" because if there were any ships in the kriegsmarine that actually fought well it would be the Scharnhorst
VietcongHere2banzai yeah Kriegsmarine called her the “lucky” Scharnhorst for a reason. She fought the most battles out of the four main German capital battleships. She also “survived” all the battles up until the Battle of the north cape. I mean Bismarck too did good, but was suck too soon. She probably would have sunk many more ships if she had made it back to port after she sunk the hood.
honestly they just need to buff AA so flying in without taking any precautions destroys the flight group. it wont help against anyone worth their shit in a CV but it would help with the brain dead ones
Yeah its pretty good, once i got 50 planes down with hatsuharu, before the AA nerf remember when buying a module there was in add 2 explosions in a AA salvo and now its just decrease the priority AA cold-down
This is a ranger and Ryujo... i have never had much issue with avoiding or going through Gneisenau flak. They must be literally turning into the flak bursts or something because i have no other explanation for this.
@@arongaspar2529 oi man if you hate CV play them then you understand the pain of CV and how to counter them As an example I was in a BB using the knowledge of CV. I track plane, estimate where is CV, and evade the bomb and torp just to kill a good CV player and turn the tide of battle
In terms of Aiming, what troubles you most? Is it leading targets, hitting certain sections, or ammo-type usage? As for the positioning, I would greatly reccomend iChase's BB positioning guide ruclips.net/video/NYZl9k-yi34/видео.html for general knowledge, as well as a few personal tips: In the Gnies, you do not want to always charge forward. At the start of the battle, go at 3/4ths speed to whatever flank you are supporting, until the actual engagement begins. You'll want to position yourself slightly closer than normal with other BBs, since you want to maximize damage from your low number of guns, but be prepared to turn tail and run if larger ships appear. (For example, if a Sovjetzky Soyuz and a Massachusetts start pushing into your flank, you do not stand a chance. Run.) This sort of falls in the aiming category, but in the Gniesenau, and many other later KM Battleships, your primary target is cruisers and broadsiding battleships. Your guns load and turn faster than other BBs, but have average accuracy, and with 6 guns, it hurts badly when you miss. Honestly, iChase's "How to Get Good" tutorial series and Yuro's H-Classe video can explain it pretty well. Just take note, Yuro does make quite a bit of jokes about the BBs, and the video is a few months old, so do take things like neglecting secondary builds with a grain of salt (I do have a secondary spec (along another with a tank build) captain on my German BBs, and ever since 9.2, you don't need IFHE for those builds), and secondary battleships can be quite fun in the right situation. Remember, you're already doing the best thing for yourself by looking for help, and I cannot stress how important that is when learning a ship. The KM BB line is one of my favorites, the FDG was my first T9. TLDR: - iChase's tutorials and Yuro's H-classe video - Don't go full throttle at the start - Hang back between cruisers and BBs - Focus broadsides - Don't be afraid to retreat P.s. Use the grey torpedo bar to see if the ships are slowing down, speeding up, or turning
Tilly Tilford at Tier 6 being a CV is tough, at T4 you basically go seal clubbing, T8 is hard but too hard if you know what you are doing, and at T10 you can target whoever you want
up to 3 cv's in match before 0.9.2, up to 2 now, but with high online most of battles even on tier 4 will now go with only 1 cv per team. If not enough players for matchmaker, then more CV's will be in battle
i dont play cv so much anymore, but i used to love hunting german bbs since their aa SUCKED. i have to reconsider that after watching this. nowi have my bismarck and lately i have noticed a huge amount of shotdown planes but not close to this. this is cracy. WHAT BOTHERS me the most is. this game suppose to have ships based on the real thing and no way a cv carried that many. i know there were 2 of them but t6. or am i wrong?
USA cruisers are good ships for setting fires and hunting DDs (Worcester being better than Des Moines), Russian BBs are quite good overall with almost no weak points, the Japanese destroyers and carriers are solid too Hope this helps
From the combat standpoint this captain of the Gneisenau BB is lacking situational awareness. He demonstrated quite catastrophic marksmanship and in the finale he lacked decision to go against last enemy CV and was rather than that waiting for time to expire. BAD GAME
@@Georgejmh apparently the gneisenau is equipped with the 3x2 380mm she was supposed to get during the war, but the project was cancelled.The scharnhorst is equipped with the original 3x3 280mm. This way both ships are different and unique, so that people will still have a reason to buy the scharnhorst. And it gives us a chance to see how the new version of the gneisenau would have looked like if the plans were actually carried out.
Afton Farza It’s actually good if you play it differently, try to use it like it’s a heavy cruiser except it’s a big and powerful one and use it to hunt DDs, CAs and CLs. Also a good brawler with its secondaries and torps
Afton Farza Oh yeah, don’t forget that when going against other BBs you get close and try not to expose your side too much as you have weak horizontal armor and can get cracked open like an egg from a well placed shot.
And? All Kriegsmarine ship have it. I don't see the problem. I know what's you mean but think of it. USA flag represent all states of this country. And a lot of them in history use slave and make genocide of local population. So is it for you more normal to see this flag than Nazi one? I can do the same for a all of country in this game so what? You will ask Wargaming to delete all country flag? Nazi flag is unfortunately part of history. Of course everyone wish this period never exist but it will be always only a wish. Have it in a game not means the player or the game are pro nazi. Every country in history did ( and probably will do again ) something very bad. The only thing to do is to try to learn the lesson of history and try to never make it again.
i absolutely love this BB, had to sell it to buy the bismarck but soon as i racked up credits i bought it again a few days ago. it’s still one beast brawler and it’s even more potent with the recent buff. and CA’s never expect those torps lol
for me the Scharnhorst performs better but gneisenau is not bad either just dont like the guns
Stefan Stoian oh yeah definitely. wish WG would buff all german BB dispersion again. it’s really needed tbh literally no love for german bb line at all..💔 i have to play defensively and rely on my other team mates to snipe and it pisses me tf off.
Well it is a Russian game! Lol
But yes the German tech tree in general is overlooked! That’s the reason why I kept all German ships tier III and above. So overlooked and underrated, while the American and Japanese lines are very overrated with so many ships!
I ve got tirpitz and for me is ok. But it needs a resistance buff to the torps because they are knocked out easy
BRUH WHAT IS YOUR REASON TO LOVE THIS SHIP????
6 shell salvo = guaranteed miss/ bounce/ torp prot
Gnei really have good AA. When i grind it, it nearly got 20-30 planes shoot down in almost CV Match i played. But damn the dispersion
has*
@@breezyyeezy8858 yeah, dang it i want to write has but when it sended, its typo
@@azravalencia4577 yeah haha I understand xd
Azra valencia don’t forget it only have six guns
If you aim for the center of broadside, the 2 shells of same turret would land in front of bow and behind stern.........garbage dispersion.....
but really beautiful ship.
Poor CVs not dodging flak at all. Still, it's nice to see CVs having their planes shot down for once
I love the Gneisenau! I see the Kriegsmarine finally gave her the Bismarck-class type guns she so rightfully deserves. I mean she was the last German battleship standing by the end of WW2!
Actually she was forgotten and scuttled by the Kriegsmarine.... Never saw service after the Channel dash again....
Yeah they used her as a block ship against the Russians. Such a sad fate. It would have been more honorable if she fell in battle with a last stand against the British and Americans. The same goes for Tirpitz too Instead of being capsized in a fjord.
@@stevenmoore4612 I thought the Tirpitz got bombed to hell and back?
@@stevenmoore4612 by "last man standing" did you mean "last target for the RAF" because if there were any ships in the kriegsmarine that actually fought well it would be the Scharnhorst
VietcongHere2banzai yeah Kriegsmarine called her the “lucky” Scharnhorst for a reason. She fought the most battles out of the four main German capital battleships. She also “survived” all the battles up until the Battle of the north cape. I mean Bismarck too did good, but was suck too soon. She probably would have sunk many more ships if she had made it back to port after she sunk the hood.
- Shoot down 108 planes by 19:00
- CV still launches a near full DB squad
Perfectly balanced. *facepalm*
honestly they just need to buff AA so flying in without taking any precautions destroys the flight group. it wont help against anyone worth their shit in a CV but it would help with the brain dead ones
Panzer dont think is not joke?? kriesmarine shis can shoot down many planes???
Gnei has Hipper AA which is Goddamn good
@@azravalencia4577 yeah really crazy aa
So satisfying to see so many planes evaporated.
Historically accurate tbh. BBs as an oversized AA Platform and carrier escort 🤷🏻♂️ same as the Ägir. Main guns are useless.
a captain skills build in this videos would be very appreciated and interesting to see!
Yeah
Just go full secondary build I think.
dont think... the secondary are opening at 6km. with full on mine it's 8km
did the torps just went trough the dd at 2:31?
I think they did
Maybe🤔
Is deep water torps only hit bb and cv
@@diaspi1967 No they werent
terror of aircraft carriers in their own flesh, good handling. good secondary defense, beautiful anti-aircraft, German quality is priceless: 3
Yeah its pretty good, once i got 50 planes down with hatsuharu, before the AA nerf remember when buying a module there was in add 2 explosions in a AA salvo and now its just decrease the priority AA cold-down
The AA modification 1, it's useless now it only provides a faster priority AA sector
@@user-and-id yeah what a shame
What is the commander build and modules for that AA?
Hello guys. how to view the list of teammates and enemies at the top left n right corner?
Mursyid Muhammad it’s a mod
@@azfarabdullah5115 Thanks bro. I thought i should make some change in the Setting.
the dispersion at 3:36 is what the German BBs should of always had.
Haven’t played the Gneisenau after the Dispersion buff to German BBs. How is accuracy nowadays?
Gneisenau guns are a bit better for brawls. beyond 10km they fucking useless 80% of the time unfortunately.
"be the boat"
This is a ranger and Ryujo... i have never had much issue with avoiding or going through Gneisenau flak.
They must be literally turning into the flak bursts or something because i have no other explanation for this.
I love playing CV's but this was just hilarious.
then go fuck yourself
@@arongaspar2529 oi man if you hate CV play them then you understand the pain of CV and how to counter them
As an example I was in a BB using the knowledge of CV. I track plane, estimate where is CV, and evade the bomb and torp just to kill a good CV player and turn the tide of battle
I already have the Gneisenau but I am an absolute noob concerning Aim and positioning. Can somebody help me how I could improve my skills?
In terms of Aiming, what troubles you most? Is it leading targets, hitting certain sections, or ammo-type usage?
As for the positioning, I would greatly reccomend iChase's BB positioning guide ruclips.net/video/NYZl9k-yi34/видео.html for general knowledge, as well as a few personal tips:
In the Gnies, you do not want to always charge forward. At the start of the battle, go at 3/4ths speed to whatever flank you are supporting, until the actual engagement begins.
You'll want to position yourself slightly closer than normal with other BBs, since you want to maximize damage from your low number of guns, but be prepared to turn tail and run if larger ships appear. (For example, if a Sovjetzky Soyuz and a Massachusetts start pushing into your flank, you do not stand a chance. Run.)
This sort of falls in the aiming category, but in the Gniesenau, and many other later KM Battleships, your primary target is cruisers and broadsiding battleships. Your guns load and turn faster than other BBs, but have average accuracy, and with 6 guns, it hurts badly when you miss.
Honestly, iChase's "How to Get Good" tutorial series and Yuro's H-Classe video can explain it pretty well. Just take note, Yuro does make quite a bit of jokes about the BBs, and the video is a few months old, so do take things like neglecting secondary builds with a grain of salt (I do have a secondary spec (along another with a tank build) captain on my German BBs, and ever since 9.2, you don't need IFHE for those builds), and secondary battleships can be quite fun in the right situation.
Remember, you're already doing the best thing for yourself by looking for help, and I cannot stress how important that is when learning a ship. The KM BB line is one of my favorites, the FDG was my first T9.
TLDR:
- iChase's tutorials and Yuro's H-classe video
- Don't go full throttle at the start
- Hang back between cruisers and BBs
- Focus broadsides
- Don't be afraid to retreat
P.s. Use the grey torpedo bar to see if the ships are slowing down, speeding up, or turning
Remember that German battleships are brawler, you ambush others at close range if you can.
Don't even bother aiming with KM BB
I have never played ACs, may I ask, do they run out of planes often?
Low tier cvs yes
@@grimmshredsanguinus2915 Thank you very much. Best wishes.
@@tillytilford2158 good luck on high tiers where planes are infinite xD
Tilly Tilford at Tier 6 being a CV is tough, at T4 you basically go seal clubbing, T8 is hard but too hard if you know what you are doing, and at T10 you can target whoever you want
If anything, it's the other way around
This is why Gneisenau never sank irl,
Soopp when do CV come to wow's legends for console
T 6 cv vs T7 Ship... Would look different when it was a T8 cv...
Wait what kind a mode is this I thought you can only play one CV in match
up to 3 cv's in match before 0.9.2, up to 2 now, but with high online most of battles even on tier 4 will now go with only 1 cv per team. If not enough players for matchmaker, then more CV's will be in battle
15:50 lovely view :D
i dont play cv so much anymore, but i used to love hunting german bbs since their aa SUCKED. i have to reconsider that after watching this. nowi have my bismarck and lately i have noticed a huge amount of shotdown planes but not close to this. this is cracy. WHAT BOTHERS me the most is. this game suppose to have ships based on the real thing and no way a cv carried that many. i know there were 2 of them but t6. or am i wrong?
Thought I was good shooting down 29 planes with a t 22 destroyer
I did once 30 in a mutsuki
Positive side effect of a secondary build. Scumbag plane factories get evaporated.
Shame CVs now have literally infinite planes.
Never snipe with Gneisenau
You put more damage to planes than to ships 😂
Gnei literally have better AA than Bismarck
Some Random Horse it did survive later into the war than Bismarck
hi good job i am new in wow you can tel me better ships in differents nations please
USA cruisers are good ships for setting fires and hunting DDs (Worcester being better than Des Moines), Russian BBs are quite good overall with almost no weak points, the Japanese destroyers and carriers are solid too
Hope this helps
Ultimate AA memonau
Гнеська зверь.больше сотни самолетов сбил.жесть.
From the combat standpoint this captain of the Gneisenau BB is lacking situational awareness. He demonstrated quite catastrophic marksmanship and in the finale he lacked decision to go against last enemy CV and was rather than that waiting for time to expire. BAD GAME
41 hits, 1 cit 😂
Tier 7 battleship vs tier 6 aircraft carreer
Tier 7 Battleship.
@@23GreyFox Oh sorry thanks
What if when a planes crash onto any ship , it will initiate fire which will deduct the health faster ??
Nope
jesus, check out how many flags this guy is running
German love
but i hate those dispersions lol
Westerland marscht starts playing
Enemy's CVs are so noob
survival challenge
survive in battlefield v btw no camping or stick far away from combat
good luckkk
of course if u die the video ends
Awesome
А как на счет авианосца 8лвл? Этого авианосца 6лвл и моя бабушка сбить может.
flak 88 on this ship LOL
german battleships i find have the best anti air
Since when, does she has two guns per main turret? She had 3 per turret!
That's scharnhorst
@@uwuthanizeme5462 BOTH Scharnhorst and Gneisenau had THREE guns in each main turret!
@@Georgejmh Not in the game, otherwise people would have no reason to buy the scharnhorst.
@@uwuthanizeme5462 Well, that's surprising!
@@Georgejmh apparently the gneisenau is equipped with the 3x2 380mm she was supposed to get during the war, but the project was cancelled.The scharnhorst is equipped with the original 3x3 280mm. This way both ships are different and unique, so that people will still have a reason to buy the scharnhorst. And it gives us a chance to see how the new version of the gneisenau would have looked like if the plans were actually carried out.
Gnie have good AA
But that CV player must be scrub
Noflysenau 😀
airborn eater xD
Lame...all potatoes went right and died he just casually sails half map shooting down t6 planes
Fc คับ
balanced)
This AA ship gun so op, i get 103k damage AA and lots of plane shut down
Estos son los que nunca pierden, siempre ganan, sus barcos son los mas poderosos. Este juego es una mierda
these CV players are at least noob
luck
But it's bad in mobile lol
Afton Farza It’s actually good if you play it differently, try to use it like it’s a heavy cruiser except it’s a big and powerful one and use it to hunt DDs, CAs and CLs. Also a good brawler with its secondaries and torps
@@whyyoumadbro2370 thx bro, u make me feel better to use BB of German :)
Afton Farza Oh yeah, don’t forget that when going against other BBs you get close and try not to expose your side too much as you have weak horizontal armor and can get cracked open like an egg from a well placed shot.
He has a nazi flag equipped, this should not be allowed in that mod
The black and white one? That's the Prussian flag, not a Nazi symbol.
And? All Kriegsmarine ship have it. I don't see the problem. I know what's you mean but think of it. USA flag represent all states of this country. And a lot of them in history use slave and make genocide of local population. So is it for you more normal to see this flag than Nazi one? I can do the same for a all of country in this game so what? You will ask Wargaming to delete all country flag?
Nazi flag is unfortunately part of history. Of course everyone wish this period never exist but it will be always only a wish. Have it in a game not means the player or the game are pro nazi. Every country in history did ( and probably will do again ) something very bad. The only thing to do is to try to learn the lesson of history and try to never make it again.
Censoring symbols is very nazi like of you Jozsef.
*Learn history boi*
Well ofc he gets many plane kills cuz it’s a lower tier cv - especially a Japanese one who engages him