This is exactly what I was after - I knew this would work, but having seen it I'm now happy to do it. I have a similar front porch, and similar to you my consumer unit is miles away, so I've taken the feed from a mains plug (which happens to also run off a UPS) and mounted the transformer in a similar place to you. Great video. :)
This is exactly what I was looking for mate! I have an old mechanical chime with existing 8V transformer. I want to simply bypass the chime and connect directly to the transformer, basically removing the chime altogether. I just want the phone to play a chime.
The wired Nest doorbells (as well as wired Ring doorbells) are great products. HOWEVER, they don't tell you upfront that these wired doorbells all have an internal non-user-serviceable battery. IF you will be using the doorbell with a mechanical chime, just be aware that at some point, the battery inside will fail. The internal battery on these units are used to provide temporary voltage to the doorbell unit when a mechanical chime is used. When someone presses the doorbell button, power is temporarily routed away from the doorbell to the chime inside the house. The battery keeps the doorbell powered for the 1-2 seconds while this happens. Over time, this small battery will be unable to deal with the voltage drop and your doorbell will lose power and reboot itself. If you don't rely on a mechanical chime or if you use the Ring wireless chime, than it won't be an issue. If you do use a mechanical chime, depending on your environment (which includes usage rate, weather, temperature, etc.), the doorbell will stop function properly at some point in time. For most users, it seems to be somewhere between 1-3 years.
Expertly explained. Your video has confirmed my fears and my lack of electrical experience has made meI decide to go with a battery powered ring doorbell. Thanks!
You sir are the ONLY person i could see on RUclips that has covered this. My issue is, my mum has a ring video doorbell 2 second gen. Currently attached to the door because the plinth where you have put yours is to small to house the width of the ring bell, (nest hello is thinner). But hers is fixed to the door and battery only, I've purchased the UK ring plug, but wondering if you had any advice given its on the door, and opening and closing the door would need the cable flex to function.
Thanks John, I'm glad you found the video helpful! Yes that's one of the reasons I prefer the Nest Hello to the Ring Doorbells, I think their tall & thin shape looks much sleeker and less bulky so it's a bit more subtle and also as you say easier to fit in thin spaces! But anyhow, with your Mum's doorbell on the door I would suggest to run the cable near one of the door hinges and fix it in place next to the hinge both on the frame side and on the door itself, to enforce the maximum amount of slack you'll ever need in the cable. Doing it over a hinge will hopefully stop it ever getting trapped in the door, and you can then run it up on the internal side of the door and through a drilled hole at the height you want the bell. Hope that helps!
Ah great, glad you found it helpful! Make sure you wire the transformer into the mains correctly and safely - check with an electrician if you're at all unsure.
Great video, can't think why your initial review would warrant any negative comments, as it was the first thing I asked when I realised there was insufficient supplied material and information in the box to support a hardwired 240 v supply transformer connection. Your video has affirmed the correct choice of transformer and the fact I'll need a box for the transformer, unfortunately you neglected to mention where to buy the one in the video so I've just resorted to Google; Which is how I found myself here in the 1st place :) Great stuff and thank you- Really wel presented
Great stuff, glad you found it helpful! I put an eBay link in the video description to the transformer box I bought. Here it is: ebay.us/sswWKZ Make sure you put a fused spur between power source and the transformer, if you're hard wiring into another plug socket or use a 3A fuse if you're just putting a 3 pin plug on. (for legal reasons that's not advice; check with an electrician!)
@@SwitchedOnNetwork Thanks for the link, I'll be getting a sparky to do the necessary work ,I just need to ensure I have all the materials correctly ordered up. Best regards
Excellent video . . . . been looking for months how to do a new doorbell installation . . . looking at the Blurams doorbell that comes with Wi-fi chime plugged into mains
Thanks for the vid...i have a xformer ABB which puts out 12V AX (10VA)...i measured 15V AC at the wiring at the door....do you think this would suffice?
Great vid but I'm confused... without a chime, what happens when you press the doorbell? Does the doorbell itself ring and then you get notified by the app but nothing rings inside the house? Can you hear the unit itself ring from inside?
Every Google Home speaker in the house acts as a wireless chime, so they all play a ding-dong and announce "Someone's at the front door" (or whatever you call your doorbell location). If you subscribe to Nest Aware for £50/year and it's someone you know, it'll say for example "Paul is at the front door".
Finally found a video that covers most of my install questions. I wish to eliminate my indoor chime and so I will remove the chime and use the existing wiring in the house. I would like to wire the power from the transformer directly to the front doorbell wiring. I checked my Canadian transformer near my breaker panel and the load is 25V and 20VA. Please comment....and thank you.
Glad it helped! If you check the Nest Doorbell voltage and power requirements, you'll see that it will take up to 24V and it'll work on between 10 and 40 VA of power. So as long as your transformer can output that you should be fine - is it fixed at 25V or do you have options? I don't feel qualified enough in a public forum like this to say "ah yeah 25V will be fine!" so I'd double-check with an electrician if you're unsure. Also make sure the cable you're using is thick enough, the higher voltage will mean less current is drawn, so cable becomes less of an issue but I'd still make sure you buy cable designated for doorbells - but if you have existing cabling there, it'll probably be fine to reuse that.
Thank you for making this video. In that exact situation myself with no proper wired doorbell/chime in place and the mains board at the other side of the house. So the only thing your setup is missing is a chime when the doorbell is rang?
@@SwitchedOnNetwork some people don't want to spend a couple of hundred quid on Google speakers , rather buy the kids some toys. Chime will do. I fed my wiring through the skimming, nothing visible.
Great Video! I don't have a plug socket near my front porch. Do you think I could get power off an existing light fitting in the porch to power the transformer?
Thanks! :) I'm sure that would work... and if it was my house I might do that... but I'm not sure it will comply with building regs where you are, and I can't give you any advice on that or on how you should wire things up. Check with your local authorities and if in doubt ask a local qualified electrician. Sorry for the legalese answer, but I can't be seen to give advice (I'm sure you'll understand!). Alternatively just run a long cable from somewhere else, but that of course is more work...
Great Video and so helpful.... QQ. I am hoping to run two Nest Hello devices off a single transformer and currently don't have a chime... Do you think the BG 24V transformer would successfully power two of them?
If you're powering two off one transformer, wired in parallel, you need to look at how much current (in Amps) your transformer can provide at one time. I'd make sure it's at least double what one doorbell will suck. If not, get a second transformer.
So am i right in assuming your using your Nest Hello with a Nest Speaker to able you to get a sound when the bell is pressed since you didn't install a chime.
Yep that's right, when the doorbell is pressed it rings on every Google home/ nest speaker in the house as well as on both our phones and my Pixel Watch. If you have a display like the Nest Hub, it'll show video as well so you can see who's at the door straight away.
Great video, i'm hoping to get a Eufy Doorbell and wire it up in the same way. Question, do you have it plugged into the mains via the fused socket we see at the start of the video (before you swapped the black wire to white), or did you spur off the socket directly?
Hi mate, I am completely uneducated on this and going to set this up on my new build house that has no doorbell wiring, as all of the power adapters on Amazon seem to have bad reviews about loud buzzing noises. I have a fuse box right near my front door and you touched on this on your video. Would this mean I could just put the transformer in the fuse box and remove the need for the power adapter you have in your video?
You could, but only a qualified electrician can legally remove the cover from the consumer unit. Wiring it in via a fused spur like I did is probably the best option (as long as you're fully confident in doing everything correctly!)
@@SwitchedOnNetwork thanks mate yes I would be using an electrician anyway. I was just wondering if it was possible before I bother asking one to do it. Thanks for the reply👌🏾
How did you run the wire from the porch to the mains? I’m from USA at my in laws here in the UK and just got them the ring doorbell, however no existing wiring and the battery swapping is too hard for them to do each time. Wouldn’t I be able to just tie that transformer into an existing wall socket in the porch rather than going to the mains? Or would it be better to add an outdoor socket by tying off an existing socket inside and running the ring power adapter cable from the socket to the doorbell ?
Yes you can do either, just make sure you do it all properly and adhering to all regulations. Get an electrician to do it for you unless you're 100% sure you know what you're doing.
So you dont have to wire the chime connector in series between the transformer and doorbell which apparently acts as a resistor when you don't have an existing chime?
Yes, that's one of your options if you don't want to permanently hard wire it in and you don't mind losing a plug socket (which you'll have to ensure no-one ever switches off by mistake)
Never having mounted something to a UPVC window/door frame before, I am wondering what the process is to afix the doorbell to the frame? I just bought a Nest battery doorbell, which comes with a couple of self tappers and rawl plugs, but not sure if for UPVC I should drill two small pilot holes and just use the screws, or if rawl plugs in UPVC is also required?
You definitely won't need the rawl plugs and the self tappers should go in just fine. You could drill a 1mm pilot if you want to ensure correct positioning but I don't think I bothered on this one 👍
Thanks! The max length you'll get away with will depend on the gauge of wire you're using (as that affects its resistance) but if you're using fairly standard twin bell wire you should be good for up to about 25m I think. How far away will your transformer and doorbell be?
Can it just be stuck on to a upvc doorframe? I have bought the battery powered doorbell and only have a upvc doorframe to put it on. Don't really wanna drill into it.
Hi what is the wifi like on the nest. I currently have a ring and quite frankly the wifi is rubbish. I have a 500mbps fibre to the home connection with an orbi mesh system. Which i actually got after watching your orbi vid :)
haha brilliant! Glad you found the Orbi video good enough to buy one 👍 In general, the WiFi is great on the Nest, I very rarely have any issues with it and on the odd occasion I do I think it's probably down to the nest servers rather than its WiFi (because it's usually flawless, so can't really be the WiFi chip at fault I don't think). PS - new Orbi *and* Nest doorbell videos coming soon 😉
@@SwitchedOnNetwork Hi yes the orbi is rock solid and doing its job nicely. Just wish the ui on the app was a little better. Ah i see i shall await your new video before buying. Thanks for the fast reply
Ignoring the physical chime. Can you set this up so it rings the Google devices say between 8am and 8pm but after that time just alerts you on your phone ? so the house does not get woke up after 8pm doorbell ? I was going to get one if so. I can then wire my doorbell chime to a sonoff and control the times that operates from an app also.
You can set temporary, one off quiet times in the Nest app for the doorbell but the way you'd achieve what you want is via the Night Mode setting on each speaker, which you can set up be Automatically enabled/disabled at set times each day, and you can have that include Do Not Disturb too, which blocks all sounds and notifications on the device so doorbell rings will only go to your phone(s).
So you know what you're of hardware you used to secure it to the door? Mine came with brick fasteners but I don't think they will work on the PVC door frame
Hi - using the Google app, I’m not sure how to give them access to the nest google doorbell. I only see option to ‘invite home member’. But that gives them permissions to add and remove people. This is something I would not want. Any idea what else I can try?
@@SwitchedOnNetwork OK. So if you go into the nest app > click on cogwheel > turn on video recording and don’t pay for nest ware what’s the difference in tryna find out. 🤷♂️. It is showing Nest Aware till 15/5/21 (probably a free trial). Is video recording only available if you pay for Nest Aware?
Yes, that's right you need Aware for any recording. But it's worth bearing in mind that covers all cameras on your account on one subscription - so if you also have a few outdoor and indoor cameras they'll record as well and it's no extra for more cameras.
I looked up to see if there was a "standard" height but didn't like that, so just walked up to the door and reached my arm out and then put it where felt most natural. (I also sought approval from the wife as well first 🤣)
I used some which I had lying around anyway so I'm not sure of its precise gauge, but you should be able to use any cable which is designed as bell cable. It's what the Nest Hello is designed for, to use any existing cable. And run at the higher voltage so less current will need to be drawn 👍
Thank you for your response. I also wanted to thank you for your video tutorial. It's given me the motivation and encouragement to install a wired Ring door bell. I'll be doing it exactly how you have.
That's great to hear! And I'm glad you found the video helpful. Are you running cable through the uPVC door frame? I have to admit I was nervous before drilling that first hole and I had no idea if I'd be able to link it all up, so was very glad when it eventually worked!
@@SwitchedOnNetwork Yes, I'll be running the wire through my uPVC door frame. I have a porch like yours. So I'll be removing the door keep and feeding the wires through. I hope removing the keep is not complicated and it comes off with ease. Also did you have to buy self tapping screws for the bell it self or did the standard screws suffice ? What size drill did you use to make the holes?
Great stuff, good luck! Yeah, self tapping screws are best for PVC and then no pilot hole required so really snug. The big hole for the cables ended up being bigger than I wanted because of the thing I was poking up to grab the end of the cable. Just as small as you can get away with 😀
Ideally there should be a fused spur with a max 3a fuse that will protect anything on that cable from working at a higher current, much like a lighting ring. I still don't see a massive problem, just more from a future safety issue / electrical certificate.
Yep that's probably a very good point. I didn't include in the video that there's actually a fuse behind that plug (previous owner did some funky wiring that I've still not got round to redoing 🤣). But this is just what I did in my own porch (and may change in future) and is of course in no way to be construed as instruction or advice!
Attaching the doorbell to the mount is a little difficult but once it locks into place it seems extremely sturdy. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxxHZwMa8CsRjYhf9s4W8w0Dwm47uytWOp I replaced my regular doorbell with this and hard wired it in, using my existing wires and mechanical chime. It works perfect so far and integrates perfectly with my blink camera system. It also works seamlessly with Alexa
Terrible choice of cable to be taken from the socket! Isn’t anywhere near acceptable. You clearly need to read up on the definition of competent and skilled 👍🏻
@@SwitchedOnNetwork this is what a competent or skilled person would know 👍🏻 the cpc would be blocked or wago’d at the transformer end, the cpc at the socket would be connected, allowing the cable to be suitably protected 👍🏻
There's no need to keep being rude, I was up for a sensible grown up discussion and maybe to learn something. Not knowing 100% about something, well in that case I guess no-one in the entire world is competent or skilled in anything then?! And considering many modern appliances don't even have an earth wire these days anyway...
Really great video. Hugely insightful for what I need. Thanks
I'm glad you found it useful, and thanks for your comment 🙂
This is exactly what I was after - I knew this would work, but having seen it I'm now happy to do it. I have a similar front porch, and similar to you my consumer unit is miles away, so I've taken the feed from a mains plug (which happens to also run off a UPS) and mounted the transformer in a similar place to you. Great video. :)
Glad it was helpful! 🙂
This is exactly what I was looking for mate! I have an old mechanical chime with existing 8V transformer. I want to simply bypass the chime and connect directly to the transformer, basically removing the chime altogether. I just want the phone to play a chime.
The wired Nest doorbells (as well as wired Ring doorbells) are great products. HOWEVER, they don't tell you upfront that these wired doorbells all have an internal non-user-serviceable battery. IF you will be using the doorbell with a mechanical chime, just be aware that at some point, the battery inside will fail.
The internal battery on these units are used to provide temporary voltage to the doorbell unit when a mechanical chime is used. When someone presses the doorbell button, power is temporarily routed away from the doorbell to the chime inside the house. The battery keeps the doorbell powered for the 1-2 seconds while this happens. Over time, this small battery will be unable to deal with the voltage drop and your doorbell will lose power and reboot itself. If you don't rely on a mechanical chime or if you use the Ring wireless chime, than it won't be an issue. If you do use a mechanical chime, depending on your environment (which includes usage rate, weather, temperature, etc.), the doorbell will stop function properly at some point in time. For most users, it seems to be somewhere between 1-3 years.
Expertly explained. Your video has confirmed my fears and my lack of electrical experience has made meI decide to go with a battery powered ring doorbell. Thanks!
Get the battery powered nest doorbell! 😉
So few views on this masterpiece? Love the production quality and style. Keep it up!
Very kind, thank you! Have you got a Hello doorbell?
You sir are the ONLY person i could see on RUclips that has covered this.
My issue is, my mum has a ring video doorbell 2 second gen.
Currently attached to the door because the plinth where you have put yours is to small to house the width of the ring bell, (nest hello is thinner).
But hers is fixed to the door and battery only, I've purchased the UK ring plug, but wondering if you had any advice given its on the door, and opening and closing the door would need the cable flex to function.
Thanks John, I'm glad you found the video helpful! Yes that's one of the reasons I prefer the Nest Hello to the Ring Doorbells, I think their tall & thin shape looks much sleeker and less bulky so it's a bit more subtle and also as you say easier to fit in thin spaces! But anyhow, with your Mum's doorbell on the door I would suggest to run the cable near one of the door hinges and fix it in place next to the hinge both on the frame side and on the door itself, to enforce the maximum amount of slack you'll ever need in the cable. Doing it over a hinge will hopefully stop it ever getting trapped in the door, and you can then run it up on the internal side of the door and through a drilled hole at the height you want the bell. Hope that helps!
@@SwitchedOnNetwork thanks for the reply, going to attempt today... Hopefully it can be done!!
Cheers again for the reply.
Awesome, good luck! Tweet me a picture @paulfp when you're done :)
just getting ready to move into my new build. this was really helpful.
Ah great, glad you found it helpful! Make sure you wire the transformer into the mains correctly and safely - check with an electrician if you're at all unsure.
Great video, can't think why your initial review would warrant any negative comments, as it was the first thing I asked when I realised there was insufficient supplied material and information in the box to support a hardwired 240 v supply transformer connection.
Your video has affirmed the correct choice of transformer and the fact I'll need a box for the transformer, unfortunately you neglected to mention where to buy the one in the video so I've just resorted to Google; Which is how I found myself here in the 1st place :) Great stuff and thank you- Really wel presented
Great stuff, glad you found it helpful! I put an eBay link in the video description to the transformer box I bought. Here it is: ebay.us/sswWKZ
Make sure you put a fused spur between power source and the transformer, if you're hard wiring into another plug socket or use a 3A fuse if you're just putting a 3 pin plug on. (for legal reasons that's not advice; check with an electrician!)
@@SwitchedOnNetwork Thanks for the link, I'll be getting a sparky to do the necessary work ,I just need to ensure I have all the materials correctly ordered up. Best regards
This is exactly what I was looking for, thanks 👌🏻
Glad I could help!
Thank you! So frustrating only ever finding US based electrics videos.
Hope it was helpful! 🙂
Perfect... Used it for my ring door bell just to run the wires👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Ah brill, through your uPVC?
Excellent video . . . . been looking for months how to do a new doorbell installation . . . looking at the Blurams doorbell that comes with Wi-fi chime plugged into mains
Glad it helped :)
Will this set up work the same with a ring doorbell?
Thanks for the vid...i have a xformer ABB which puts out 12V AX (10VA)...i measured 15V AC at the wiring at the door....do you think this would suffice?
Great vid but I'm confused... without a chime, what happens when you press the doorbell? Does the doorbell itself ring and then you get notified by the app but nothing rings inside the house? Can you hear the unit itself ring from inside?
Every Google Home speaker in the house acts as a wireless chime, so they all play a ding-dong and announce "Someone's at the front door" (or whatever you call your doorbell location). If you subscribe to Nest Aware for £50/year and it's someone you know, it'll say for example "Paul is at the front door".
Finally found a video that covers most of my install questions. I wish to eliminate my indoor chime and so I will remove the chime and use the existing wiring in the house. I would like to wire the power from the transformer directly to the front doorbell wiring. I checked my Canadian transformer near my breaker panel and the load is 25V and 20VA. Please comment....and thank you.
Glad it helped! If you check the Nest Doorbell voltage and power requirements, you'll see that it will take up to 24V and it'll work on between 10 and 40 VA of power. So as long as your transformer can output that you should be fine - is it fixed at 25V or do you have options? I don't feel qualified enough in a public forum like this to say "ah yeah 25V will be fine!" so I'd double-check with an electrician if you're unsure. Also make sure the cable you're using is thick enough, the higher voltage will mean less current is drawn, so cable becomes less of an issue but I'd still make sure you buy cable designated for doorbells - but if you have existing cabling there, it'll probably be fine to reuse that.
Thank you for making this video. In that exact situation myself with no proper wired doorbell/chime in place and the mains board at the other side of the house. So the only thing your setup is missing is a chime when the doorbell is rang?
Yes that's right, but it rings on the many Google Home speakers dotted around the house 👍 (not just our phones)
@@SwitchedOnNetwork I get ya, thanks for the reply, subscribed!
No worries, and thanks for the sub!
@@SwitchedOnNetwork some people don't want to spend a couple of hundred quid on Google speakers , rather buy the kids some toys. Chime will do. I fed my wiring through the skimming, nothing visible.
Nest Mini is £19...
Great Video! I don't have a plug socket near my front porch. Do you think I could get power off an existing light fitting in the porch to power the transformer?
Thanks! :) I'm sure that would work... and if it was my house I might do that... but I'm not sure it will comply with building regs where you are, and I can't give you any advice on that or on how you should wire things up. Check with your local authorities and if in doubt ask a local qualified electrician. Sorry for the legalese answer, but I can't be seen to give advice (I'm sure you'll understand!). Alternatively just run a long cable from somewhere else, but that of course is more work...
Great Video and so helpful....
QQ. I am hoping to run two Nest Hello devices off a single transformer and currently don't have a chime... Do you think the BG 24V transformer would successfully power two of them?
If you're powering two off one transformer, wired in parallel, you need to look at how much current (in Amps) your transformer can provide at one time. I'd make sure it's at least double what one doorbell will suck. If not, get a second transformer.
What is used instead of the chime?
You can use your existing chime if you have one, alternatively (or also) all your Google home speakers and your phone too.
So am i right in assuming your using your Nest Hello with a Nest Speaker to able you to get a sound when the bell is pressed since you didn't install a chime.
Yep that's right, when the doorbell is pressed it rings on every Google home/ nest speaker in the house as well as on both our phones and my Pixel Watch. If you have a display like the Nest Hub, it'll show video as well so you can see who's at the door straight away.
Where did you take power from? Ring main, or light circuit, or something else?
Fused spur from a plug socket in my porch.
Great video, i'm hoping to get a Eufy Doorbell and wire it up in the same way. Question, do you have it plugged into the mains via the fused socket we see at the start of the video (before you swapped the black wire to white), or did you spur off the socket directly?
You can do either, spurring off the socket directly (3A fuse) is best though as it's neater and less chance of being switched off by mistake 👍
Hi mate, I am completely uneducated on this and going to set this up on my new build house that has no doorbell wiring, as all of the power adapters on Amazon seem to have bad reviews about loud buzzing noises. I have a fuse box right near my front door and you touched on this on your video. Would this mean I could just put the transformer in the fuse box and remove the need for the power adapter you have in your video?
You could, but only a qualified electrician can legally remove the cover from the consumer unit. Wiring it in via a fused spur like I did is probably the best option (as long as you're fully confident in doing everything correctly!)
@@SwitchedOnNetwork thanks mate yes I would be using an electrician anyway. I was just wondering if it was possible before I bother asking one to do it. Thanks for the reply👌🏾
How did you run the wire from the porch to the mains? I’m from USA at my in laws here in the UK and just got them the ring doorbell, however no existing wiring and the battery swapping is too hard for them to do each time. Wouldn’t I be able to just tie that transformer into an existing wall socket in the porch rather than going to the mains? Or would it be better to add an outdoor socket by tying off an existing socket inside and running the ring power adapter cable from the socket to the doorbell ?
Yes you can do either, just make sure you do it all properly and adhering to all regulations. Get an electrician to do it for you unless you're 100% sure you know what you're doing.
When you screes in the screws did you use wall plugs like you would ok brick or does the uPVC keep the screws in?
PVC keeps the screws in fine 👍
Brilliant video.
How would i integrate the chime from a deta doorbell?
Nice video, well explained and clear. Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
So you dont have to wire the chime connector in series between the transformer and doorbell which apparently acts as a resistor when you don't have an existing chime?
Not with the Nest doorbells, no - as long as the transformer is providing power in the range expected and accepted by the doorbell.
Can you not bypass the need for a transformer box & just buy a plug in transformer adapter ?
Yes, that's one of your options if you don't want to permanently hard wire it in and you don't mind losing a plug socket (which you'll have to ensure no-one ever switches off by mistake)
Never having mounted something to a UPVC window/door frame before, I am wondering what the process is to afix the doorbell to the frame? I just bought a Nest battery doorbell, which comes with a couple of self tappers and rawl plugs, but not sure if for UPVC I should drill two small pilot holes and just use the screws, or if rawl plugs in UPVC is also required?
You definitely won't need the rawl plugs and the self tappers should go in just fine. You could drill a 1mm pilot if you want to ensure correct positioning but I don't think I bothered on this one 👍
@@SwitchedOnNetwork Perfect thanks, will give it a crack :)
Hopefully it won't crack!! 🙈🙈
@@SwitchedOnNetwork Went for a 2mm pilot hole purely as my drill didn't fit a 1mm bit, and it's all done and working a treat! Thanks!
Excellent! 👌
Do you have a video on connecting an existing bell which is powered by two D-cell batteries?
I don't, sorry. Best way is to get a transformer and power it from the mains.
@@SwitchedOnNetwork I think I would also need new chimes that were compatible with AC.
Ah maybe. Not sure sorry. I don't have any actual chimes, it just rings on all our Google home speakers and our phones so that's enough for us.
Excellent video - What is the max length of the cable from the transformer to the doorbell?
Thanks! The max length you'll get away with will depend on the gauge of wire you're using (as that affects its resistance) but if you're using fairly standard twin bell wire you should be good for up to about 25m I think. How far away will your transformer and doorbell be?
@@SwitchedOnNetwork Hi, thks for the answer. Around 8-12 metres (house under construction) :-)
Ah I see, yeah you should be fine 😊
Can it just be stuck on to a upvc doorframe? I have bought the battery powered doorbell and only have a upvc doorframe to put it on. Don't really wanna drill into it.
Yeah you could use some strong 3M adhesive pads or Gorilla tape (double sided) 👍
Does it have to be bell cable specifically?
No, as long as it's thick enough to take the current (which is pretty low).
Hi what is the wifi like on the nest. I currently have a ring and quite frankly the wifi is rubbish. I have a 500mbps fibre to the home connection with an orbi mesh system. Which i actually got after watching your orbi vid :)
haha brilliant! Glad you found the Orbi video good enough to buy one 👍 In general, the WiFi is great on the Nest, I very rarely have any issues with it and on the odd occasion I do I think it's probably down to the nest servers rather than its WiFi (because it's usually flawless, so can't really be the WiFi chip at fault I don't think).
PS - new Orbi *and* Nest doorbell videos coming soon 😉
@@SwitchedOnNetwork Hi yes the orbi is rock solid and doing its job nicely. Just wish the ui on the app was a little better. Ah i see i shall await your new video before buying. Thanks for the fast reply
clear explanation with alternative solution, what else..
Hope it was useful :)
Ignoring the physical chime. Can you set this up so it rings the Google devices say between 8am and 8pm but after that time just alerts you on your phone ? so the house does not get woke up after 8pm doorbell ? I was going to get one if so. I can then wire my doorbell chime to a sonoff and control the times that operates from an app also.
You can set temporary, one off quiet times in the Nest app for the doorbell but the way you'd achieve what you want is via the Night Mode setting on each speaker, which you can set up be Automatically enabled/disabled at set times each day, and you can have that include Do Not Disturb too, which blocks all sounds and notifications on the device so doorbell rings will only go to your phone(s).
@@SwitchedOnNetwork Thanks for the reply.
Neat job!
Thanks! Yeah I was really pleased I was able to get the cables hidden inside the frame 👍
Hi is the chime sound coming from one of the nest speakers ?
From ALL of them 👍
great video
Thanks!
What happened to the ending and actually mounting the doorbell?
I think I edited the ending off as there was a large retention dropoff in the last few seconds!
So you know what you're of hardware you used to secure it to the door? Mine came with brick fasteners but I don't think they will work on the PVC door frame
Yeah you won't need those, just some screws to go into the PVC
Handy video but think you should have removed the sharp edges from the metal or added a shroud before running the cable.
Very good point, I might do that. Thanks 😀
Which bell wire did you purchase can you post link please
I had it in my box of bits already, but if you look on Amazon or eBay for 2-core bell cable you should find some 👍
Did you say at 24v the demand on the bell cable is lower?
Yes, because it won't need to draw as much current to achieve the same power 👍 (watts = amps X volts)
@@SwitchedOnNetwork Thanks mate. I'm fitting mine tomorrow so will use 24v.
Awesome, hope it goes well!
Hi - using the Google app, I’m not sure how to give them access to the nest google doorbell. I only see option to ‘invite home member’. But that gives them permissions to add and remove people. This is something I would not want. Any idea what else I can try?
If you go to home.nest.com you can create a password protected sharable link to your camera's live feed 👍
@@SwitchedOnNetwork OK. So if you go into the nest app > click on cogwheel > turn on video recording and don’t pay for nest ware what’s the difference in tryna find out. 🤷♂️. It is showing Nest Aware till 15/5/21 (probably a free trial). Is video recording only available if you pay for Nest Aware?
Yes, that's right you need Aware for any recording. But it's worth bearing in mind that covers all cameras on your account on one subscription - so if you also have a few outdoor and indoor cameras they'll record as well and it's no extra for more cameras.
@@SwitchedOnNetwork appreciate your response many thanks 😊
No problem, happy to help 😃
What about adding an actual chime? Not Google Home, just a regular wired chime?
Yeah you can do that fairly easily, Amazon sell a Honeywell one and you can just follow the wiring instructions in the nest app 👍
How did you choose the height of the bell to be placed at?
I looked up to see if there was a "standard" height but didn't like that, so just walked up to the door and reached my arm out and then put it where felt most natural. (I also sought approval from the wife as well first 🤣)
@@SwitchedOnNetwork haha love the approval of the wife. Have to her happy. Hehe
@@SwitchedOnNetwork Do you use nest hub? Is it worth it? Or better to use google home app on Apple device?
I've not got one myself but definitely on my wish list 👍
I did consider the Nest but gave up, Blurams now
Ah cool, any good?
Nice
Thanks :)
Id avoid drilling the frame. Go through the flashing and use superstrong 3M sticky pads to hold the bell.
Why not? How could I have hidden the cable without drilling into the frame?
What gauge bell cable did you use?
I used some which I had lying around anyway so I'm not sure of its precise gauge, but you should be able to use any cable which is designed as bell cable. It's what the Nest Hello is designed for, to use any existing cable. And run at the higher voltage so less current will need to be drawn 👍
Thank you for your response. I also wanted to thank you for your video tutorial. It's given me the motivation and encouragement to install a wired Ring door bell. I'll be doing it exactly how you have.
That's great to hear! And I'm glad you found the video helpful. Are you running cable through the uPVC door frame? I have to admit I was nervous before drilling that first hole and I had no idea if I'd be able to link it all up, so was very glad when it eventually worked!
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Yes, I'll be running the wire through my uPVC door frame. I have a porch like yours. So I'll be removing the door keep and feeding the wires through. I hope removing the keep is not complicated and it comes off with ease. Also did you have to buy self tapping screws for the bell it self or did the standard screws suffice ?
What size drill did you use to make the holes?
Great stuff, good luck! Yeah, self tapping screws are best for PVC and then no pilot hole required so really snug. The big hole for the cables ended up being bigger than I wanted because of the thing I was poking up to grab the end of the cable. Just as small as you can get away with 😀
2 core flex coming of a socket ? 🤔 Oh dear oh dear
Ideally there should be a fused spur with a max 3a fuse that will protect anything on that cable from working at a higher current, much like a lighting ring. I still don't see a massive problem, just more from a future safety issue / electrical certificate.
Yep that's probably a very good point. I didn't include in the video that there's actually a fuse behind that plug (previous owner did some funky wiring that I've still not got round to redoing 🤣). But this is just what I did in my own porch (and may change in future) and is of course in no way to be construed as instruction or advice!
Attaching the doorbell to the mount is a little difficult but once it locks into place it seems extremely sturdy. ruclips.net/user/postUgkxxHZwMa8CsRjYhf9s4W8w0Dwm47uytWOp I replaced my regular doorbell with this and hard wired it in, using my existing wires and mechanical chime. It works perfect so far and integrates perfectly with my blink camera system. It also works seamlessly with Alexa
Anyone hear a humming noise from the transformer?
Not from mine...
Your guide includes drilling your door frame whilst crossing your fingers? Sheesh
I crossed my fingers so you don't have to 😉😂
Terrible choice of cable to be taken from the socket! Isn’t anywhere near acceptable. You clearly need to read up on the definition of competent and skilled 👍🏻
What cable would you have used?
@@SwitchedOnNetwork a suitably sized twin and earth cable. Shouldn’t be running cables without a cpc present 👍🏻
But the transformer has no earth? So where would I wire the earth to?
@@SwitchedOnNetwork this is what a competent or skilled person would know 👍🏻 the cpc would be blocked or wago’d at the transformer end, the cpc at the socket would be connected, allowing the cable to be suitably protected 👍🏻
There's no need to keep being rude, I was up for a sensible grown up discussion and maybe to learn something. Not knowing 100% about something, well in that case I guess no-one in the entire world is competent or skilled in anything then?! And considering many modern appliances don't even have an earth wire these days anyway...