Got my 2nd Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV recently in Perth. Had a 2014 for 4 years & now got the updated 2020 model with bigger battery, engine & rear electric motor. Was a dealer demo with only 2600km & only cost $41990 Aussie dollars which is very reasonable compared to alot of other SUV's & hybrids that don't offer Plug-in EV only range. Absolutely love it especially given my commute is 25km each way so get home with a few kms of EV range remaining & have 20 solar panels on our roof so rarely get electricity bills - mostly get credits. Hardly ever have to put fuel in it & recently 98 octane petrol hit $2 a litre which is mental & sure to increase people's interest in EV's & plug-in hybrids. You could have explained better how good the regenerative paddles are & ability to adjust the levels of regenerative braking which is similar to driving a manual especially down steep hills which is where they make you feel safe & in control way more than an automatic car. Once you have a Phev you never want to go back to a petrol only or hybrid car with the torque & quietness making it way better than a Rav4 Hybrid in my opinion. Also charged for the first time at a shopping centre for free today that had a 22kw charger so after 2 hours had a full battery again. Way better feeling than a petrol only or hybrid that unless you've owned one won't appreciate how much better & definitely worth the extra money as well as helping the environment.
Hi Eric I'm a long term Mitsubishi vehicle owner and i appreciate your real world ownership experience and feedback. I'm definitely considering a Mitsubishi PHEV next year, this is cutting edge technology from a loved and respected manufacturer, the Eclipse Cross PHEV does exactly what it's designed to do. Too bad our government, unlike other governments around the world, doesn't offer rebates for buyers committed to making this world a better place, unfortunately our federal government is also in denial of the fact that we are struggling with climate change and if everyone contributes to going green It'll make a difference. All the best
I had a several test drive on Plug in Hybrid SUV i.e Hyundai Kona PHEV, KIA Sorento PHEV, MG PHEV, Prius PHV, Outlander PHEV and my final decision is on EC PHEV for several reasons that I consider this is the right one for me.
Just bought Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross hybrid 2022, drove from brisbane to melbourne with a loaded 6ft trailer with a cover 750kg appox. 17.8L per 100km..
It’s a great car! I love it. It’s great to drive, holds the road well, the cornering is fantastic, I love being able to zip around my regional town on EV, and to charge the car from my solar panels on the house! I have the Exceed with HUD and Sunroofs. Well worth the extra! It’s a handsome, good looking modern vehicle. Just wish it had lane guidance.
why do you need lane guidance? Perhaps glasses would suffice. (just kidding). I hate it on my Audi, i find it interferes with constant resistance to dodging pot hole & deepset manhole covers.
Good review though I felt the summary rather missed the point. It's not about "needing" electric so much as "avoiding petrol where possible" and practical. Something conventional toyota hybrids can't do. For them it's no petrol no drive. With climate change already causing fires and other extreme weather events, every litre saved from burning is a good thing. I do agree that as a car the eclipse cross does little to excite the pulse but I'm sure it is perfectly fine for tootling around the day to day getting the job done. Same for the normal petrol only version. In the real world, a phev with 50km range means a lot of people can avoid the servo for months at a time. Take my brother for example, he has only filled his outlander phev 2 times this year, both times around easter for a holiday trip. The rest of the time powered by solar from his home. What is exciting is the incoming outlander that promises 80+kms of ev range. 80kms will cover the vast majority of trips for all but the megacommuters among us. Now if only they can put some of this tech into a dual cab ute....I'm sure ute driving folk will appreciate the smooth, quiet torque of an electric drivetrain.
Thanks for your thoughts, Peter. I'd argue that in Australia there's only a very, very small number of buyers that are "avoiding petrol where possible", though it is no doubt growing as customer trends and tastes evolve. I look forward to seeing if the Outlander PHEV can scratch the itch a bit more convincingly than this. Thanks Matt
It’s beyond stupid that there are no gov incentives for cars that are less polluting. I live near a main road with heavy traffic in Sydney and hate the daily pollution caused by cars running on diesel and cheap petrol with an insane sulphur content. Most people I know would be able to commute to work with a PHEV like the one in the video and use little to no petrol at all. My next car will absolutely be a PHEV.
If you normally drive around town/city and occasionally drive on the open road then a PHEV is a great choice. As long as you can get to work/school etc and back on EV then you have a vehicle that is cheaper to run. Longer trips on petrol without having to worry about recharging. I think the MG is a better choice with a larger engine and more space. The lack of rear air vents for the rear seat passengers is a huge fail in 2021.
Dude it's about saving the planet not 10 grand... just sayin. With finance rates *real* cheap that's not a huge deal IMO...Great option in Australia rather than an EV (only) where we don't have a lot of charge stations and batteries with 400 Km range take hours to charge even on DC... who is going to wait 2-3 hrs hanging around some outback servo to continue on a 400 Km journey? I disagree... It also drives REALLY well - electric on all wheels - feels like a one geared EV...Also nobody can actually buy a new RAV4 hybrid.. I know.. I had one ordered for 8 months..it's still not on the production line, so I cancelled it..! Just MO
I had ordered Kia niro PHEV and just found out is not likely to get to Australia. Only ev and hybrid. Similarly the Hyundai Ionic no longer coming to Australia. I don’t want to buy Chinese until they buy our wine again so will now buy the Eclipse Cross PHEV as I do monthly trips over 450kms and no fast chargers where I go.
phil - drive the ford escape phev ...better all round than the mitsi....but we await the new niro phev to test drive; which is coming soon here Kia tell us -
There is a Kia Sportage PHEV available in North America...not sure if/when we will see it here. Google it and you’ll find reviews. My impression was that it looks to have a bit more luxury tech than the Eclipse, but the PHEV side may not be as well implemented.
As things stand the only way to make either EV or PHEV financially a viable option is the V2L function: run your house off the car battery but use a combination of off peak electricity during the wee hours and solar during the day to recharge. You might be able to save around $3K in total energy costs (petrol and electricity) per year: ‘enough’ to just get a return on the PHEV investment over a 4-5 year ownership cycle. However the mark up for pure EVs still is in excess of $20K even today (if one uses the MG SZ vs SZ EV phrase costs as a benchmark).
Totally agree , A PHEV vehicle is the way to go if you generate excess solar, & don't already own a battery, except you can't buy the hardware for" VTG " in late 2023 as it is sold out & the manufacturers are not making that hardware any more they are working on a new version that has not been approved yet so you can't buy one, Also "SA" is the only state that allows "VTG" . I have a 10 kw battery on on my house & a 6kw array of panels, I'm shaded by big trees from 1pm onward, the house runs on roughly 600 -800 watts/ hr (fridge,freezer,TV,desktop computer, lighting) the 10 kw battery in summer is fully charged by 11am & the excess solar (up to 20 kw on a sunny day ) goes to the grid for a meager .08 cents/kw. (There has been proposals by the grid to charge, for using the grid to dump your surplus) It makes sense to charge a "PHEV" from the surplus @ .08 cents /kwh. Different story in Winter however as the system rarely generates enough to keep the battery charged. My flat rate from the grid supply is 60 cents / kwh which is actually more expensive than petrol . Considering :- The Mitubishi Elips cross "PHEV" will do 5km/kw aprox @ 60c/kw = $15 /100km An "ICE" Mitubishi Eclipse cross (1.5 lt turbo) will do 7.3 lt/100 km say petrol @ $2 / lt = $14.60/100km So the PHEV really only has an advantage if your grid charge for a kw is considerably less than .60 cents a kw ( some charging stations charge .60 cents / kw in SA) or you have solar panels that generate excess that you put into the "PHEV". Caveat :- There are some charging stations that charge less than .60cents/kw & a few ("Jolt" fast CHAdeMO charger) ) around the CBD in Adelaide ,that will give the first 7kw for free / day then $0.46 cents/kw. I live in Adelaide hills so none of those are closer than 15 km , = 30km round trip which would use up 3 kw out of 7 on way home , probably worth the effort if i have 1-2 hrs spare.
Essentially the one of the last true new model Mitsubishis to be sold in this country. They will get increasingly polluted by the Stellantis alliance, until they cease to exist.
We get tax rebates in NZ for this type of car so it makes it more affordable. Did you say in your commentary that it achieved 5.5L/100km when the battery was empty? And if so, did you make up any battery km's during the 100km trip?
we drove one - whatever power it has its not enough to move 1950 kg at enough pace for safe passing etc....and we only drove it on the flat - chuck a lot of hills at it like on a trip in NZ and it would be underwhelming.
fine car for getting from A to B. If I want fun driving, I take my Kawasaki Versys1000 motorbike. And with € 2,10 per liter petrol, electric driving is getting more attractive.
Toyota Rav 4 Hybrid is not an alternative unless your willing to wait for 10mo for a new car. Also is the Eclipse Cross PHEV still using the old Horrific CVT gearbox? I test drove the Outlander PHEV and was extremely underwhelmed by its performance.
If you just imagine how much the power bill and petrol without using real data, certainly you won't believe it. I have spent almost 4 years recording the power bill and petrol cost. Just a brief information with the 91 unleaded price in NZ at ~$2.0/ltr ; PHEV combined cost (Power + Petrol) cost 8 cents/km, Full EV (Nissan Leaf) cost 3.5-4 cents / km. for ICE car cost per km you can calculate by yourself. However final choice is your own decision. I only concern about cost efficiency, If government apply RUC (Road User Charges) on EV or PHEV and make the cost inefficient, I will definitely go back to ICE again.
$54 k ... why would you? Grossly over priced for what you get,, You can warm your bum in the back seats, but no rear air vents to cool you.. Have they lost the plot?
Worst of both worlds, like the DVD VHS combo players people bought back in the day as were unsure DVD was the way to go. Buy an EV or don't buy an EV. BYD should have a full BEV here next year cheaper than this with 400km + range I would be waiting for something like that or pony up a bit extra for a Model 3 SR. Or buy the ICE version of this.
@@Karl-Benny in NZ toyota have decided not to sell the PHEV ( according to the totoya sales person when I enquired) - that is a big mistake one thinks, as phev is ideal for around town on electric only and engine for longer trips...just like in OZ.
Yep SUVs are not fun to drive they are the fridges and freezers of the car world, sadly Mitsubishi did away with the only real car they made the Lancer, good review though.
Agreed! I don't understand this fixation people have for SUVs. They're heavier for one thing - which means dearer to run and more poluting - and if you don't have to carry much other than yourself and a passenger or two then a sedan or hatch is all you need and way more efficient. And besides, SUVs aren't REAL cars...
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Got my 2nd Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV recently in Perth. Had a 2014 for 4 years & now got the updated 2020 model with bigger battery, engine & rear electric motor. Was a dealer demo with only 2600km & only cost $41990 Aussie dollars which is very reasonable compared to alot of other SUV's & hybrids that don't offer Plug-in EV only range. Absolutely love it especially given my commute is 25km each way so get home with a few kms of EV range remaining & have 20 solar panels on our roof so rarely get electricity bills - mostly get credits. Hardly ever have to put fuel in it & recently 98 octane petrol hit $2 a litre which is mental & sure to increase people's interest in EV's & plug-in hybrids. You could have explained better how good the regenerative paddles are & ability to adjust the levels of regenerative braking which is similar to driving a manual especially down steep hills which is where they make you feel safe & in control way more than an automatic car. Once you have a Phev you never want to go back to a petrol only or hybrid car with the torque & quietness making it way better than a Rav4 Hybrid in my opinion. Also charged for the first time at a shopping centre for free today that had a 22kw charger so after 2 hours had a full battery again. Way better feeling than a petrol only or hybrid that unless you've owned one won't appreciate how much better & definitely worth the extra money as well as helping the environment.
Hi Eric
I'm a long term Mitsubishi vehicle owner and i appreciate your real world ownership experience and feedback.
I'm definitely considering a Mitsubishi PHEV next year, this is cutting edge technology from a loved and respected manufacturer, the Eclipse Cross PHEV does exactly what it's designed to do.
Too bad our government, unlike other governments around the world, doesn't offer rebates for buyers committed to making this world a better place, unfortunately our federal government is also in denial of the fact that we are struggling with climate change and if everyone contributes to going green It'll make a difference.
All the best
I had a several test drive on Plug in Hybrid SUV i.e Hyundai Kona PHEV, KIA Sorento PHEV, MG PHEV, Prius PHV, Outlander PHEV and my final decision is on EC PHEV for several reasons that I consider this is the right one for me.
But what as for toyota rav 4 hybrid plug-in?
Just bought Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross hybrid 2022, drove from brisbane to melbourne with a loaded 6ft trailer with a cover 750kg appox. 17.8L per 100km..
Ouch!
It’s a great car! I love it. It’s great to drive, holds the road well, the cornering is fantastic, I love being able to zip around my regional town on EV, and to charge the car from my solar panels on the house! I have the Exceed with HUD and Sunroofs. Well worth the extra!
It’s a handsome, good looking modern vehicle. Just wish it had lane guidance.
why do you need lane guidance? Perhaps glasses would suffice. (just kidding).
I hate it on my Audi, i find it interferes with constant resistance to dodging pot hole & deepset manhole covers.
The Mitsubishi seems to be a superior product than the RAV4 phev, it also looks more modern.
Good review though I felt the summary rather missed the point. It's not about "needing" electric so much as "avoiding petrol where possible" and practical. Something conventional toyota hybrids can't do. For them it's no petrol no drive.
With climate change already causing fires and other extreme weather events, every litre saved from burning is a good thing.
I do agree that as a car the eclipse cross does little to excite the pulse but I'm sure it is perfectly fine for tootling around the day to day getting the job done. Same for the normal petrol only version.
In the real world, a phev with 50km range means a lot of people can avoid the servo for months at a time. Take my brother for example, he has only filled his outlander phev 2 times this year, both times around easter for a holiday trip. The rest of the time powered by solar from his home.
What is exciting is the incoming outlander that promises 80+kms of ev range. 80kms will cover the vast majority of trips for all but the megacommuters among us.
Now if only they can put some of this tech into a dual cab ute....I'm sure ute driving folk will appreciate the smooth, quiet torque of an electric drivetrain.
Thanks for your thoughts, Peter. I'd argue that in Australia there's only a very, very small number of buyers that are "avoiding petrol where possible", though it is no doubt growing as customer trends and tastes evolve. I look forward to seeing if the Outlander PHEV can scratch the itch a bit more convincingly than this.
Thanks
Matt
100% agree. That's why I bought one!
It’s beyond stupid that there are no gov incentives for cars that are less polluting. I live near a main road with heavy traffic in Sydney and hate the daily pollution caused by cars running on diesel and cheap petrol with an insane sulphur content. Most people I know would be able to commute to work with a PHEV like the one in the video and use little to no petrol at all. My next car will absolutely be a PHEV.
Would be good if also gave review videos of entry level as this is probably what majority of people can afford.
If you normally drive around town/city and occasionally drive on the open road then a PHEV is a great choice. As long as you can get to work/school etc and back on EV then you have a vehicle that is cheaper to run. Longer trips on petrol without having to worry about recharging. I think the MG is a better choice with a larger engine and more space. The lack of rear air vents for the rear seat passengers is a huge fail in 2021.
The MG is only 2WD and properly lower quality.
Ihan hyvä auto. Paikallisajot sujuvat pelkästään sähköllä. Quite a good car. Local rides run solely on electricity.
Good review thanks.
But pretty sure the Kia Niro plug-in isn't coming to Australia (18:05), at least not for a while yet.
Dude it's about saving the planet not 10 grand... just sayin. With finance rates *real* cheap that's not a huge deal IMO...Great option in Australia rather than an EV (only) where we don't have a lot of charge stations and batteries with 400 Km range take hours to charge even on DC... who is going to wait 2-3 hrs hanging around some outback servo to continue on a 400 Km journey? I disagree... It also drives REALLY well - electric on all wheels - feels like a one geared EV...Also nobody can actually buy a new RAV4 hybrid.. I know.. I had one ordered for 8 months..it's still not on the production line, so I cancelled it..! Just MO
I had ordered Kia niro PHEV and just found out is not likely to get to Australia. Only ev and hybrid. Similarly the Hyundai Ionic no longer coming to Australia. I don’t want to buy Chinese until they buy our wine again so will now buy the Eclipse Cross PHEV as I do monthly trips over 450kms and no fast chargers where I go.
phil - drive the ford escape phev ...better all round than the mitsi....but we await the new niro phev to test drive; which is coming soon here Kia tell us -
There is a Kia Sportage PHEV available in North America...not sure if/when we will see it here. Google it and you’ll find reviews. My impression was that it looks to have a bit more luxury tech than the Eclipse, but the PHEV side may not be as well implemented.
@@graantmnz Except it is being discontinued in Oz.
As things stand the only way to make either EV or PHEV financially a viable option is the V2L function: run your house off the car battery but use a combination of off peak electricity during the wee hours and solar during the day to recharge. You might be able to save around $3K in total energy costs (petrol and electricity) per year: ‘enough’ to just get a return on the PHEV investment over a 4-5 year ownership cycle. However the mark up for pure EVs still is in excess of $20K even today (if one uses the MG SZ vs SZ EV phrase costs as a benchmark).
Totally agree , A PHEV vehicle is the way to go if you generate excess solar, & don't already own a battery, except you can't buy the hardware for" VTG " in late 2023 as it is sold out & the manufacturers are not making that hardware any more they are working on a new version that has not been approved yet so you can't buy one, Also "SA" is the only state that allows "VTG" .
I have a 10 kw battery on on my house & a 6kw array of panels, I'm shaded by big trees from 1pm onward, the house runs on roughly 600 -800 watts/ hr (fridge,freezer,TV,desktop computer, lighting) the 10 kw battery in summer is fully charged by 11am & the excess solar (up to 20 kw on a sunny day ) goes to the grid for a meager .08 cents/kw. (There has been proposals by the grid to charge, for using the grid to dump your surplus) It makes sense to charge a "PHEV" from the surplus @ .08 cents /kwh.
Different story in Winter however as the system rarely generates enough to keep the battery charged.
My flat rate from the grid supply is 60 cents / kwh which is actually more expensive than petrol . Considering :-
The Mitubishi Elips cross "PHEV" will do 5km/kw aprox @ 60c/kw = $15 /100km
An "ICE" Mitubishi Eclipse cross (1.5 lt turbo) will do 7.3 lt/100 km say petrol @ $2 / lt = $14.60/100km
So the PHEV really only has an advantage if your grid charge for a kw is considerably less than .60 cents a kw ( some charging stations charge .60 cents / kw in SA) or you have solar panels that generate excess that you put into the "PHEV".
Caveat :- There are some charging stations that charge less than .60cents/kw & a few ("Jolt" fast CHAdeMO charger) ) around the CBD in Adelaide ,that will give the first 7kw for free / day then $0.46 cents/kw.
I live in Adelaide hills so none of those are closer than 15 km , = 30km round trip which would use up 3 kw out of 7 on way home , probably worth the effort if i have 1-2 hrs spare.
Essentially the one of the last true new model Mitsubishis to be sold in this country. They will get increasingly polluted by the Stellantis alliance, until they cease to exist.
Stellantis the dog and lemon 🍋 group of cars
It’s a shame about the price premium, the value just doesn’t add up.
We get tax rebates in NZ for this type of car so it makes it more affordable. Did you say in your commentary that it achieved 5.5L/100km when the battery was empty? And if so, did you make up any battery km's during the 100km trip?
My OCD(!) picked out that during some shots, EXCEED is badged underneath the PHEV on the tailgate, yet in other scenes it's not..Hmmmm
These are nice SUV's! Mitsie do PHEV's better than others.
Does it have a combined power/torque output figure??
It doesn't. Mitsubishi declined to confirm the numbers. But think around 160kW/330Nm (the existing Outlander PHEV is 157kW/332Nm combined).
we drove one - whatever power it has its not enough to move 1950 kg at enough pace for safe passing etc....and we only drove it on the flat - chuck a lot of hills at it like on a trip in NZ and it would be underwhelming.
fine car for getting from A to B. If I want fun driving, I take my Kawasaki Versys1000 motorbike.
And with € 2,10 per liter petrol, electric driving is getting more attractive.
Toyota Rav 4 Hybrid is not an alternative unless your willing to wait for 10mo for a new car.
Also is the Eclipse Cross PHEV still using the old Horrific CVT gearbox? I test drove the Outlander PHEV and was extremely underwhelmed by its performance.
The government has killed PHEV in Australia with the EV tax.
Whats an ev tax? I thought most states offer stamp duty waivers if its an EV?
More on the Mitsubishi warranty
check out John Cadogan's video on it.
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Not convinced to be honest at that price.
🙏🙏
Have to charge at home overnight; you'll be paying huge power bill cost, and petrol cost. Where is the saving? RAV4 simply uses less fuel
If you just imagine how much the power bill and petrol without using real data, certainly you won't believe it. I have spent almost 4 years recording the power bill and petrol cost. Just a brief information with the 91 unleaded price in NZ at ~$2.0/ltr ; PHEV combined cost (Power + Petrol) cost 8 cents/km, Full EV (Nissan Leaf) cost 3.5-4 cents / km. for ICE car cost per km you can calculate by yourself. However final choice is your own decision. I only concern about cost efficiency, If government apply RUC (Road User Charges) on EV or PHEV and make the cost inefficient, I will definitely go back to ICE again.
rav4 is the worst in driving
$54 k ... why would you? Grossly over priced for what you get,, You can warm your bum in the back seats, but no rear air vents to cool you.. Have they lost the plot?
Shame......i just bought one here in Auckland for $46k incl a government clean car rebate of $6k.
Worst of both worlds, like the DVD VHS combo players people bought back in the day as were unsure DVD was the way to go.
Buy an EV or don't buy an EV.
BYD should have a full BEV here next year cheaper than this with 400km + range I would be waiting for something like that or pony up a bit extra for a Model 3 SR.
Or buy the ICE version of this.
For that price, I d rather the rav4
RAV4 is not an EV and not comparable
@@keithholland7465 you can get the Hybrid and i think the PHEV
@@Karl-Benny in NZ toyota have decided not to sell the PHEV ( according to the totoya sales person when I enquired) - that is a big mistake one thinks, as phev is ideal for around town on electric only and engine for longer trips...just like in OZ.
@@Karl-Benny Not the PHEV in Australia unfortunately
Yep SUVs are not fun to drive they are the fridges and freezers of the car world, sadly Mitsubishi did away with the only real car they made the Lancer, good review though.
Galant, 3000, Eclipse?
Agreed!
I don't understand this fixation people have for SUVs. They're heavier for one thing - which means dearer to run and more poluting - and if you don't have to carry much other than yourself and a passenger or two then a sedan or hatch is all you need and way more efficient.
And besides, SUVs aren't REAL cars...
this Mitsubishi PHEV is too expensive not worth at all
yuck.. that's what Japanese cars are these days. old design. old tech.. low value.