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Motorcycle boring and honing, TS185 Suzuki
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- In this video I go thru the boring, piston fitting, honing, chamfering, and checking the flatness of the head cylinder surface. The machine this time is a 1972 Suzuki, TS 185.
I think that it is awesome you allow viewers to come and visit your shop and have a chat! I thoroughly enjoy each one of your videos. Thank YOU for taking us along on the ride!
You bet, its a lot of fun to bench race with the guys. We all have great stories, and tips.
Mr. Sweger is a professional person,mechanic with amazing know how and anyone who needs to have their motorcycles properly repaired or have restoration work done Mr. Sweger is definitely the person to reach out to for said work. My greetings to you Sir. God bless you - your friend in Cape Coral Florida. Ricardo
Thank you for the kind words my friend. All of us together can save a lot of these machines.
I've yet to see a better video series on vintage bikes, general machining, problem solving and creativity, all made better by a gentleman who shares his knowledge in a fun and easy to understand manner. Thanks!
Thanks buddy, your much too kind.
Another great job Dale. I really like how you show and explain everything you do for us all.
Thanks buddy, boy you are making some progress toward you new shop. Hope to see another video soon too.
Amazing professional work with the best knowledge and outcome by you Sir. 👍👍
Thanks Dale . I honestly think your videos are the best there are on bike repair . Your camera placement and explanations are superb . You are a real treasure for us gear heads , thank you for all your great work Dale .
Wow, thanks Murray, I sure appreciate that. I am still learning the camera and audio stuff. But this stuff is a lot of fun and I just enjoy the adventure, glad there are so many others that enjoy the same.
@@montana2strokeracer yeah. Dale, I watch a lot of repair videos on cars motorcycles engines in general. I haven’t seen any videos that compared to yours. I have got to learn how to edit because you do what I want to, but I’ll never be that good. Don’t forget that 380 I can hear you.
Hey thanks for the kind words my friend, I'm not real good at the editing stuff, but I get her done. You should get going on making some more videos.
Stellar job Dale. It makes sense about the birdcage video being so popular btw. That's a golden rule in creating or inventing anything. The most successful endeavors always fill a need, solve a problem or make people's lives easier in some way. Cables are used for throttles, clutches, shifters on bikes, in cars, machinery. You solved a problem for heaps of people with that one. I love your videos because they are always informative in some way. Thank you for taking the time and sharing it with us.
Hi Gigi, you must be back from your trip. Thanks for all the kind words my friend, this is what makes the hobby so fun. Sharing info with folks and them sharing their experiences with you. Its help in both directions. Lot of very smart folks out there. You are right a cable is a cable.....they are used in so many applications, and there will always be a need to custom build one. This tool is really helpful in creating a cable that is reliable. Thanks for hanging out in the shop with me.
As always, excellent job Dale.
Thanks again Larry, appreciate you are stopping by.
as always that man right there is a professional, theirs not anybody else on planet earth that can do that any better, not only that he's a supper good guy 2 go along with it, i enjoy watching him enjoy his passion and his hobby...
Hey James thanks for all the kind words my friend. This is such a fun hobby and all the suggestions and experiences from others is what makes it that way.
Is that one Jacks ? That was nice of him to give you that bird cage tool. A lot of great people out there. Love the shirt at the beginning.
No this is not Jacks, he told me he was going to send a couple at some point. Yeah, super nice guy to have brought me one as a gift. It really is nicer than the one I made for myself. Still wearing all of the shirts you sent me. Sometimes they get buried in the drawer for a while, then I find them again.
Looks great Dale! Nice work as always.
Thanks David, thanks for stopping by.
Cylinder's had a good life to date. Nice work Dale.
Yes, I think it was worn pretty consistently. The cleanup was normal and just enough for the .5mm oversize piston. Thanks for hanging out in the shop with me.
Another great informative, instructional video. I like how you take just a little bit at a time when boring. Kinda crazy how the bird cage video is your most watched. I suspect your other videos will become just as popular as more of us like minded individuals find your channel. "Keep your feet on the pegs and your wheels on the ground." Dave Despain.
Thank you, Doug, it's just hard to understand why some videos do good and others don't. It's just a mystery I suppose. More and more folks are finding me, but it's been a long time coming. I think it takes a couple really popular videos to get RUclips to start pushing your content out there. I like and remember Dave Despain, good suggestion there for sure.
@@montana2strokeracer Yep, your videos aren't just great instructional tools, but they also invoke memories of good times. Dave popped in my head from out of the blue.
Here with a cup of joe learning from you Dale.
Keep up the good work. Really enjoy you videos I learn a lot from them.
Thank you, Mark, sure appreciate you stopping by.
Great photography, great narration, keep up the good work.
Thank you John, thanks for stopping by.
Good job! Enjoyed watching.
Thank you, it's great having you with me in the shop.
Hi Dale,
I also took inspiration from your Bird Cage tool video, although not as neat as Alex’s.
The Hitachi carbs originally fitted to my XS850 were shot, so I replaced them with Mikuni RS36 flat slides. They use a push/pull cable arrangement as opposed to a single cable for the Hitachi’s. After a bit or research I found a TX500 switchgear from 1973 with push pull cable arrangement and made up new cables to fit. Works a treat and looks very similar to the LH switchgear.
If I hadn’t been a subscriber I would have missed this gem of a tool and still been using an after market cable arrangement. Cheers Dale!
Nice work Steve sometimes there is just no substitute for custom made. This tool allows you to build very high-quality cables that are reliable. I am just amazed at all the improvements to that tool others have told me about. Lots of smart folks out there. This is what makes this a fun hobby.
Absolutely beautiful job Dale. Such a pleasure to watch work of this quality. And your videography is just as good.
Have to say I love your Beezer t-shirt😀
Cheers, Peter.
Thanks Peter, still working on my camera work though. Yes, the Beezer shirt was sent to me by one of my first viewers from Georgia. I also enjoy watching Dean work on the BSA two strokes over in England, the same guy sent him a shirt too. Very generous folks out there.
@@montana2strokeracer There are some good people around alright. I follow Dean, too. I really enjoy his channel.
great job as always dale should be sweet keep up the great work next video please
Thanks Mark, working on the next one. Need parts too.
using the correct solder is also important i don't do many but i had hard silver solder and it worked great.
Yeah, the only thing with silver solder it requires more heat to melt. So, you have to watch you don't melt your surrounding parts.
@@montana2strokeracer true, i heat up with a torch in a heat proof container then dip the bird nest in.
Drill two holes into the exhaust side of the piston underneath the rings to help lube the exhaust bridge
Yes, that would be the fix for the intake bridge wear for sure. But this is strictly a boring job for a customer. Boring is all he wanted done.
Sweger time is always time well spent. That turned out very well Dale. Good to see you flying the BSA flag again.
Best wishes, Dean.
Thanks Dean, you know me, if it's a motorcycle flag of any kind....I'm up to the task of wearing it.
Hi, Dale 5:10 am las vegas
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Hi Dale , great video and i also subscribed , i own a ts185 and was just double checking on what the piston to bore clearance was? , Cheers Luke from Australia.
Hi Luke, thank you for the kind words my friend and a Sub too. Yes, the 72 Suzuki shop manual I have specifies .0024 to .0028 inches for the piston cylinder clearance, while using a factory piston measured at .90 inches above the bottom of the skirt. Thanks again Luke and best wishes on your project.
Excellent job as always Dale.
Thanks for sharing with us.
Do you use , any time , Flex Hone?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks Luis, yes, I do use a flex. Like on this job, after I finish the clearance hone, I will take a 360-grit flex hone and hone in both directions briefly to remove the peaks of the 280 hone used on the Sunnen machine and to chamfer the ports left and right. Also, if you are just installing new rings without boring, the flex hone is all that is needed to supply that crosshatch for ring sealing.
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Thanks for answering Dale.
I supposed it..., but I have not seen use it before.
I write down 360-grit.
Waiting for Your next video.
Thanks buddy.
Just picked up 1979 Suzuki DS100 and DS185. Are the engines the same as the TS models? Thanks Dale
Hey John, they are close but in many cases they are different. I have not worked on any of the DS models for over 50 years. They were just coming out back when I was working at the Suzuki dealer. So, I really didn't have the opportunity to do much more than put them together and service them. I have had a couple of the later, like 79 TS models in here for boring, but the customer supplied all the spec's. Glad to see your channel growing over there at Flip Fix.
@@montana2strokeracer I think your channel is going to blow up one of these days. Your content is top notch. Thanks for getting back to me.
Hi Dale, what stone grit are you using on the sunnen? thanks
Hi Rowand, for most I use 280 grit, then I plateau hone with 320 or 400 grit ball hone very briefly, in both directions after I chamfer the ports this will remove the peaks and further chamfer the ports left and right.
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Thanks buddy
Dale, hook me up with Alex, I would pay for a bird cage tool.
I asked him, will let you know what he says. I know he sells them on Ebay.
He says they are listed as "birdcaging jig" on ebay.
I'd like to see clearance checked with feeler gauge. Ik you're very good at measurements but feeler doesn't lie
Feeler gauge is really not an option with this application. With the OEM pistons the manufacture specifies you measure the piston at .90 inches above the bottom of the skirt and take that measurement and subtract it from your bore size to get your clearance, if you used a feeler gauge the clearance would be .001 to .002 (inches) too great. If you're using an aftermarket piston such as a Wiseco, you could get by with a feeler if you wanted because those are measured at the widest point on the piston I.E. the bottom of the skirt. But for best accuracy a micrometer and snap gauge or a dial bore gauge is a better option.