I love that after all this time and nearly 3000 cycles, with entire planetoids destroyed and packed into a tardis, your main base's oxygen supply is still cooled by the same haphazardly assembled "temporary" solution in the ice biome lmaooo
Ahhh, time for a low-impact, relaxingly casual Francis vid! Edit: You know Rimworld has left an indelible mark on someone when they curse Randy's name in other games.
I liked the ending bit. Poor dupe, constantly completing emergency tasks and going back to safety just to get another emergency dig task. After all that caution, you sent him into the heart of the magma to dig up a small igneous tile
I absolutely ADORE these cooling videos it just feels so surreal to see someone just chucking ridiculous cooling solutions when the main thing killing dupes on a normal run is heat!!!
I was fully expecting him to leave the switch for the capping door in place for the specific purpose of entertaining us by flipping it. Almost sad to see the potential for major magma mayhem gone forever...
Welp the other day I was talking about the gulp purifying the Pwater and overflowing the reservoirs on the resin planet. Looks like you had the slikster version of it! 🤣that 2%chance that never goes away is killing me.
Once you're done cooling that magma, you could always redirect that cooling loop over to the sour gas and turn it into frozen methane then bring it with your dupes to the temporal tear. Cramming a bunch of -200C solid methane onto the rocket abomination seems like a fun casual project. You did want to bring everything after all.
@@mikhailgusev2394 Yes. I just see how fast that cycle clock goes and I know how long it takes for my pc to complete just 1! Especially with a late game colony.
I think the reason the magma wasn’t cooling down the doors/waste any faster is because thermal transfer is limited to the shared surface area; as long as the magma is a single tile, the heat transfer rate at a given temperature will be the same no matter how much is in there. The difference is that the magma’s insane mass means it won’t change temperature nearly as much, and since temperature difference between two materials also dictates heat transfer that means it still technically is heating up the surrounding matter faster than it would at a natural density.
Could you have added a plain old infinite liquid loop (with just a bridge) through radiant pipes that passed through the compressed lava tile? would it still have worked once it was entombed? My theory is this would just create more tile-ticks of exchange with the waste. I might try this in sandbox
Francis: < Compresses ocean into one square > Also Francis: Hold my whiskey Francis: But I am already holding my whiskey Also Francis: Then put it down and give me a hand figuring out how to compress all this magma without BBQing the dupes or melting the base Francis: ...
Wouldn't it be a good idea once the hyper compressed rock is just crushed with the nuclear waste via hyper compression to get the whole value out of it using fluid compression instead of digging it for 50% loss?
I like to think i was the inspiritation for all of this nuclear waste madness, since i was the one way back at the beginning who suggested using liquid uranum to melt the steel tiles of the rocket.
So each cycle is 10 minutes or so, and I lost count, honestly lazy to rewind, but that was about two hours and 30 something minutes to have magma go into one tile. Wow, just, wow. I don't know if that was too long for magma to flow or maybe just right. I'm sure fast forward made it go by faster, but damn!
Francis on a “do whatever you want” playthrough, I mean would you have thought it would have gone any different? It’s full of constant “Hold my beer” moments.
Ahh, the nuclear thermosiphon. Remember that in the original design the solid/liquid nuclear materials would fall through to the bottom of the magma. I guess a layer of airflow tiles in the siphon would have allowed the magma to spread while still containing an infinite amount of liquid with no damage.
Put the debris in liquid lead sufficient to form a tile when it cools. A few will work faster. Aluminium works well also but cools a bit too quick if the rock isn't all super heated.
Tip: for critter you do NOT want, built a egg cracker, select the egg of the offending critter and set the priority to 9. all the offending eggs will be hunted down and cracked. i use this trick to control the critters i really want. Also for cooling the bases, why don't use precision cooling loops? i just set the temp and forget about it.
It's time to make an over 9000 stars base for this champions don't you thinks ? Plus you can probably think about givin them a better workplace for all the chores who can be done in normal atmosphere so they can enjoy working without atmosuits. I think they diserve that !
Oh, it's probably faster to just dig out the massively compressed igneous rock tile because you've already (very probably) deleted massive quantities of heat through your other efforts with nuclear waste, so it's "fine" and it'll help rip the heat out of the debris since it'll exchange with the tile underneath it + temp shift plate behind it.
I think what's happening with the fallout vanishing is that when it condenses it does so in tiny amounts, which just get crushed by the magma when they land rather than fully evaporating. It's not all of it, but enough to delete a significant amount of material over time. You might be able to avoid this, if you want to, by creating a reflux column above the magma where the condensed fallout is forced to land and collect before being heated again
I you mined out the 2,832,772.5kg igneous rock tile, would you get a single piece of debri at 1,426,386.25kg? Would that be able to be swept? Surely no dup can carry that?
You do these ONI and rimworld alternative, But the last I remember you broke Rimworld so much with your skills it seemingly no longer has anything much to explore in that game, challenges wise. I wonder if the next time you decide to play it if you will be doing a modded run? I am sure your community would have loads of awesome mods they would want to see you play rimworld with! :D
Could you use nuclear waste/fallout to cool a reactor? Allowing for more space in the nuclear rocket by making it only need 1 steam turbine and an aquatuner rather than the 10 that it currently has.
why do i see some industrial sauna have No CO2 and some have CO2. is it due to overpressure? because i don't see Co2 elimination solutions in the clean ones.
I think the bottleneck on the cooling is the comparative mass of the Magma/Igneous vs the Doors and Tempshift Plates. The rate at which heat is exchanged does, itself, depend on the mass involved. So despite all the positive modifiers that Tempshift Plates have, they do have a theoretical maximum heat transmission rate. Edit: Also noticing an occasional whistle noise while you're talking. Not sure if it's a mic issue or sound mixer/balancer issue or what. Doesn't happen watching other RUclipsrs though, so unfortunately I think it's you : /
The heat transfer rate of Niobium is the same as steel (54) and less than iron (55). The heat transfer rate of Thermium is much higher (220). Thermium should therefore, do much better at moving heat than niobium.
Done this with an obsidian melting facility before. Did not use the rock gas for anything through. But that is ONI end game, building things just because you can.
@@sneezyfido in Rimworld the events that can happen are generated from 3 possible storyteller , one of them is Randy Random , as name suggest is the most chaotic one
when are you releaseing the ONI Bible, I always say "All Hail our lord and savior Francis John" before playing oni. Communion will be chocolates and whisky
Can you keep that igneous rock tile and save it for the end of the playthrough on a different save file? I think it would be cool to cap the series off by injecting enough heat into it to melt it again and pop it like a lava pimple and watch that massive amount of magma just explode all over the place.
I love that after all this time and nearly 3000 cycles, with entire planetoids destroyed and packed into a tardis, your main base's oxygen supply is still cooled by the same haphazardly assembled "temporary" solution in the ice biome lmaooo
Ahhh, time for a low-impact, relaxingly casual Francis vid! Edit: You know Rimworld has left an indelible mark on someone when they curse Randy's name in other games.
you beat me to it
ONI and Rimworld are the games that always come to mind when thinking about Francis John.
Still love the musical interludes!
I liked the ending bit. Poor dupe, constantly completing emergency tasks and going back to safety just to get another emergency dig task.
After all that caution, you sent him into the heart of the magma to dig up a small igneous tile
I can't fold a piece of paper more than 10x, but you can compress a planet into a tile
10? I thought WR is 12, but the size of a paper sheet should be HUGE.
But fair point still)
I love the time lapses and looking for the sticker bombs that get added... idk why, just always a treat
The first load after that magma tile freezes is certainly going to be interesting.
Just remember everyone. "Casual playthrough" no funny business. 😂
mmmm. Don't crush the sour gas, freeze it for (S)NG!
Follows your philosophy for this series... "Do I need it? No, but..." ;)
He does have an aqua tuner set up full of super coolant right next to it. So it might almost be easier for him to freeze it
Poor PC running all those calculations of infinity storaging magma, water and nuclear waste
I think having all of the magma/water in a single tile instead of hundreds of tiles would simplify the calculations
Same difference all around. Tiles exist, they get checked. Game doesn’t care if it’s 0 or 2750684
Great video 👍🔝
I absolutely ADORE these cooling videos it just feels so surreal to see someone just chucking ridiculous cooling solutions when the main thing killing dupes on a normal run is heat!!!
A really like this new music for the timelapses, its perfect for the relax run
For funs, reload a save and let the magma explode out for us?
I was fully expecting him to leave the switch for the capping door in place for the specific purpose of entertaining us by flipping it. Almost sad to see the potential for major magma mayhem gone forever...
I love how. Even in a different game. Even without playing the game for weeks, even Months. Randy is still the source of all your problems.
Welp the other day I was talking about the gulp purifying the Pwater and overflowing the reservoirs on the resin planet. Looks like you had the slikster version of it! 🤣that 2%chance that never goes away is killing me.
Once you're done cooling that magma, you could always redirect that cooling loop over to the sour gas and turn it into frozen methane then bring it with your dupes to the temporal tear. Cramming a bunch of -200C solid methane onto the rocket abomination seems like a fun casual project. You did want to bring everything after all.
16:05: Love how he blames Randy when it's entirely his fault.
I love the time lapses. It would be cool to see a real world timer along with them!
Like in a speedrun?
@@mikhailgusev2394 Yes. I just see how fast that cycle clock goes and I know how long it takes for my pc to complete just 1! Especially with a late game colony.
I think the reason the magma wasn’t cooling down the doors/waste any faster is because thermal transfer is limited to the shared surface area; as long as the magma is a single tile, the heat transfer rate at a given temperature will be the same no matter how much is in there.
The difference is that the magma’s insane mass means it won’t change temperature nearly as much, and since temperature difference between two materials also dictates heat transfer that means it still technically is heating up the surrounding matter faster than it would at a natural density.
I'm curious when that single volcano will erupt and start flooding the bottom of the asteroid. Looking forward to hear Francis sighing again :P
LMFAO I love that rimworld has etched itself into johns head so much that when playing ONI he says "Damnit randy".
9:15 the conduction panel shares temparature with the item behind it only through the middle section - not the two ends.
The conduction panel shares temp with buildings in the middle and tiles on the ends
"There's so much to do!" The most casual of casual playthroughs.
Great episode
Could you have added a plain old infinite liquid loop (with just a bridge) through radiant pipes that passed through the compressed lava tile? would it still have worked once it was entombed? My theory is this would just create more tile-ticks of exchange with the waste. I might try this in sandbox
Francis: < Compresses ocean into one square >
Also Francis: Hold my whiskey
Francis: But I am already holding my whiskey
Also Francis: Then put it down and give me a hand figuring out how to compress all this magma without BBQing the dupes or melting the base
Francis: ...
Love this series!
Wouldn't it be a good idea once the hyper compressed rock is just crushed with the nuclear waste via hyper compression to get the whole value out of it using fluid compression instead of digging it for 50% loss?
I like to think i was the inspiritation for all of this nuclear waste madness, since i was the one way back at the beginning who suggested using liquid uranum to melt the steel tiles of the rocket.
*hypnosis voice* feed all the rocks to stone hatches then turn it all into diamond...
Fantastic
@2:05 only happens if the tile above the liquid lock which is diagonal from the gas was an empty tile
16:11 blameing randy 😂😂
So each cycle is 10 minutes or so, and I lost count, honestly lazy to rewind, but that was about two hours and 30 something minutes to have magma go into one tile.
Wow, just, wow. I don't know if that was too long for magma to flow or maybe just right. I'm sure fast forward made it go by faster, but damn!
Rocket design - 10/10
Main Base - 2/10
2350 cycle time
kkkkk
Francis on a “do whatever you want” playthrough, I mean would you have thought it would have gone any different? It’s full of constant “Hold my beer” moments.
5:50 - That was underwhelmingly uneventful. Was expecting a glorious magma explosion because of some ONI shenanigans.
Ahh, the nuclear thermosiphon. Remember that in the original design the solid/liquid nuclear materials would fall through to the bottom of the magma. I guess a layer of airflow tiles in the siphon would have allowed the magma to spread while still containing an infinite amount of liquid with no damage.
Put the debris in liquid lead sufficient to form a tile when it cools. A few will work faster. Aluminium works well also but cools a bit too quick if the rock isn't all super heated.
Remember, the amount of heat transfered depends only on the temperature difference between the two tiles, not the mass stored in them...
Tip: for critter you do NOT want, built a egg cracker, select the egg of the offending critter and set the priority to 9. all the offending eggs will be hunted down and cracked. i use this trick to control the critters i really want.
Also for cooling the bases, why don't use precision cooling loops? i just set the temp and forget about it.
It's time to make an over 9000 stars base for this champions don't you thinks ? Plus you can probably think about givin them a better workplace for all the chores who can be done in normal atmosphere so they can enjoy working without atmosuits. I think they diserve that !
Oh, it's probably faster to just dig out the massively compressed igneous rock tile because you've already (very probably) deleted massive quantities of heat through your other efforts with nuclear waste, so it's "fine" and it'll help rip the heat out of the debris since it'll exchange with the tile underneath it + temp shift plate behind it.
I think what's happening with the fallout vanishing is that when it condenses it does so in tiny amounts, which just get crushed by the magma when they land rather than fully evaporating. It's not all of it, but enough to delete a significant amount of material over time. You might be able to avoid this, if you want to, by creating a reflux column above the magma where the condensed fallout is forced to land and collect before being heated again
Crush the sour gas, mine that spot, the vacuum must expand.
@Francis can you swap the nuclear waste for ethanol once its to cold? Would be interesting to see imo.
16:08 - ONI finds a way 😅
I want to see how many cycles it will take to dig out that tile...
Unfortunately I don't think it scales with mass
doesnt scale with mass just hardness unfortunatly
I you mined out the 2,832,772.5kg igneous rock tile, would you get a single piece of debri at 1,426,386.25kg? Would that be able to be swept? Surely no dup can carry that?
You do these ONI and rimworld alternative, But the last I remember you broke Rimworld so much with your skills it seemingly no longer has anything much to explore in that game, challenges wise. I wonder if the next time you decide to play it if you will be doing a modded run? I am sure your community would have loads of awesome mods they would want to see you play rimworld with! :D
Don't mind me, just commenting for the algorithm
the AAAAND part is starting to sound like a motorcycle taking off lol
Could you use nuclear waste/fallout to cool a reactor? Allowing for more space in the nuclear rocket by making it only need 1 steam turbine and an aquatuner rather than the 10 that it currently has.
The whole point of the reactor is power generation, cooling it with waste would delete heat that could have been power.
For some reason I was under the impression that the reactor itself generated power and the heat was just a by product.
I'd have just sealed the gas with a granite tile. The second you open the flood gate, that sucker will melt and join "The Great Link".
You should turn ome of the planets into a big nuclear reactor and see just how much power you can make.
As a single tile of compressed magma.. would if be an everlasting geothermal device.. or.. just dry up 50× faster than a biome.
why do i see some industrial sauna have No CO2 and some have CO2. is it due to overpressure? because i don't see Co2 elimination solutions in the clean ones.
Episode should be named “Life Finds a Way” 🦖😃
I think the bottleneck on the cooling is the comparative mass of the Magma/Igneous vs the Doors and Tempshift Plates. The rate at which heat is exchanged does, itself, depend on the mass involved. So despite all the positive modifiers that Tempshift Plates have, they do have a theoretical maximum heat transmission rate.
Edit: Also noticing an occasional whistle noise while you're talking. Not sure if it's a mic issue or sound mixer/balancer issue or what. Doesn't happen watching other RUclipsrs though, so unfortunately I think it's you : /
That end credits clip - OSHA doesn't appear to exist over there.
I thought you would have just destroyed all the magma by corner-building over the single tile
He wants the rock to put on the rocket to take with them
The heat transfer rate of Niobium is the same as steel (54) and less than iron (55). The heat transfer rate of Thermium is much higher (220). Thermium should therefore, do much better at moving heat than niobium.
I really want to see how the engine handles mining a tile that gives you more than a full stack of debris. Could be interesting!
this would be a great way to tame metal volcanoes cheap, without having to spend a lot of resources on steam turbines.
Digging the tile and losing half the mass seems like a waste, but you already have way too much igneous rock anyways^^
i challenge you, on your super casual playthrough, to make Rock Gas, the gaseous form of magma in ONI. maybe a factory for it
Done this with an obsidian melting facility before. Did not use the rock gas for anything through. But that is ONI end game, building things just because you can.
I am curious to see how FJ will handle ONI Any% speedrun. This is going to be as time-and-everything efficient as it can be.
ONI speedrun?
that is something I have missed to watch
I’d love to see a rimworld playthrough where you use combat extended mod, huge overhaul of combat with a good challenge for you
Avorion plez !
When will you play Rimworld again?
…I want to see you open the magma door.
Is there a technical win condition?
you know someone is a rimworld player when they start to blame Randy in every game
Rimworld finally made it to my wishlist a month ago.
Who is Randy?
@@sneezyfido in Rimworld the events that can happen are generated from 3 possible storyteller , one of them is Randy Random , as name suggest is the most chaotic one
What did grumpy do wrong? :(
So, who's the guy that got trapped in the time lapse?
i really wish the nuclear reactor and waste was energy instead os some byproduct to manage with steam
interesting
16:08 Randy?! He's not even in this game xD
Open the door!
Notification. Instant click.
Same, I even pivoted from a video I was already halfway through.
when are you releaseing the ONI Bible, I always say "All Hail our lord and savior Francis John" before playing oni. Communion will be chocolates and whisky
Red ENTOMBED warning... hope that is nothing important...
:D
Your dupes need an adult, letting that one be fully covered in magma just a shame.
Can you keep that igneous rock tile and save it for the end of the playthrough on a different save file? I think it would be cool to cap the series off by injecting enough heat into it to melt it again and pop it like a lava pimple and watch that massive amount of magma just explode all over the place.
oxygen not included is a silly game.
Episode number?