Stephen A., Bradley Jr. Can't See Eye-To-Eye On Pacquiao-Horn Fight | SportsCenter | ESPN
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- While both Stephen A. Smith and Timothy Bradley Jr. agree that Jeff Horn should have lost to Manny Pacquiao, they cannot seem to agree with how the judges made their decision.
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in reality he was really defending his own bs victory against Pacquiao lol
so true
Vincent Black your spitting facts man
Jyle Gene Flores .
Vincent Black agreed 100%!!!!!!
Vincent Black indeed!! 😆😆😆😆
Stuff like this makes the WWE look good
Kevin Quadrant I line wwe beter than boxing
Kevin Quadrant but it fakes dumbass
Horn was acting like he has horns on his head and headbutted and then proceeded to elbow him
and MMA too...
For real!!
Of course Bradley is going to defend Jeff. Bradley was in Jeff's shoes when he fought Manny in 2012 lol
RIP Boxing!
RIP WBO Organization itself!
Bradley knew by default he HAD to try to justify the Jeff Horn win cuz his win against manny was another one of the worst robberies in recent years 😂
Tim's was even worse imo
Bradley be like, shit, I got to defend my win against Pacquiao again. He in the hot seat by Stephen A., re-exposing Bradley and it shows by his body language throughout the interview.
Stephen A said "I remember your 2 losses to pacquiao" 😂
When did he say that? Bitch stop with the lie he never said that in this clip
LeVert-next big thing in NBA haha It was during the live stream he did tell him that, stop acting like a lil bitch and loosen up your thong man
lolz
You mean 3?
In my count he has 3 loss to pacquiao🤔
120-107 Pacquiao is more reasonable than this result.
Hillary for Prison. FeelTheBern I had it 117-111 for Pac. When i heard 117-111 on the cards i thought that's def for Pac. There's no way in hell even a blind 100 year old man could have scored that 117-111 for Horn. But hey, boxing.
Hillary for Prison. FeelTheBern No that's ridiculous Horn did well besides the headbutts and his arms around the neck in the clinch I always score fair no matter what Im completeley unbiased when scoring fights I had it 115-112 or 115-113 if you didn't score the 9th 10-8 but yeah Manny won the fight.💯🕵
I actually had it 117-111.. It was resonable for a PAC sweep than a horn UD
ESPN scored more rounds for Pacquiao than Horn. Majority knows Pacquiao should have won. Lousy judging hit again or just a hometown decision from these judges. A baseball fan can judge better than them.
I scored the bout 116-111 Pacman. It was closer than many suggested, but the most alarming thing was the fouls Horn committed and wasn't warned on. I counted 66 fouls from Horn to 6 from Pacman. Those fouls included 40(!) head hold/locks, 9 punches after break, 5 headbutt attempts, 2 elbows (2nd cut I believe was from his 1st elbow), 4 forearm hits. Manny's fouls were four head holds (nothing like Horn's in later rounds), 1 arm hold and an arm toss (when Horn went in for a headbutt).
My overall scoring (1 point for clean jabs/grazing power punches, clean medium power punches, 3 for power punches that rocked the other)had PacMan winning 342-270. Besides Round 9 (Pacman had an 80-14 edge and a 2-point round), it was really pretty even and many rounds were close... I scored it 116-111 Pacman, but can see it going anywhere 117-110 Pacman to 114-114 (giving only a 1-point Round 9 to Pacman)... but 117-111 for Horn was insane. With slight bias, 115-113 would come into play. Horn's scoring may be easier to see because his punches are slow. Pacman still has incredibly quick hands, so it may be hard to really grasp.
My Scoring:
Round 1- Horn: 30 - Pacman 11 - 10-9 Horn (Horn had 1 foul to Pacman's 0)
Round 2 - Pacman 19 - Horn 17 - 10-9 Pacman & 19-19 after 2 (Horn had 8 fouls to Pacman's 0)
Round 3 - Pacman 31 - Horn 21 - 10-9 Pacman & 29-28 Pacman after 3 (Horn had 4 fouls to Pacman's 0)
Round 4 - Pacman 18 - Horn 14 - 10-9 Pacman & 39-37 Pacman after 4 (Horn had 6 fouls to Pacman's 1)
Round 5 - Horn 39 - Pacman 34 - 10-9 Horn & 48-47 Pacman after 5 (Horn had 3 fouls to Pacman's 0)
Round 6 - Horn 22 - Pacman 17 - 10-9 Horn & 57-57 after 6 (Horn had 6 fouls to Pacman's 0)
Round 7 - Pacman 34 - Horn 25 - 10-9 Pacman & 67-66 Pacman after 7 (Horn had 7 fouls to Pacman's 1)
Round 8 - Pacman 21 - Horn 20 - 10-9 Pacman & 77-75 Pacman after 8 (Horn had 7 fouls to Pacman's 1)
Round 9 - Pacman 80 - Horn 14 - 10-8 Pacman & 87-83 Pacman after 9 (Horn had 5 fouls to Pacman's 1)
Round 10 - Horn 25 - Pacman 25 - 10-9 Horn & 96-93 Pacman after 10 (Horn had 2 fouls to Pacman's 1 and won the round because he was more aggressive and he was relatively cleaner that round)
Round 11 - Pacman 25 - Horn 17 - 10-9 Pacman and 106-102 Pacman after 11 (Horn had 9 fouls to Pacman's 0)
Round 12 - Pacman 27 - Horn 26 - 10-9 Pacman and 116-111 Pacman after 12 (Horn had 8 fouls to Pacman's 1)
I got this fight scored 8 rounds to 4 Jeff Horn
1. 10-9 Horn
2. 10-9 Pacquiao
3. 10-9 Horn
4. 10-9 Horn
5. 10-9 Horn
6. 10-9 Horn
7. 10-9 Horn
8. 10-9 Pacquiao
9. 10-9 Pacquiao
10. 10-9 Horn
11. 10-9 Horn
12. 10-9 Horn
117 - 111 UD Horn
Fouls not included? Yea horn won
@@Ozzy4747 You're blind not counting all the fauls commited and how ended the face the "new champ" after the fight.
And yeah, then he lost his belt against Crawford.
It looks to me that Bob settled everything for Crawford.
😂
This fight is like saying the cavs won the finals after winning game 4
Yes Bardley will agree about Horn winning coz he got the same situation on his 1st robbery of Pacquiao LMAO!!! he survives an almost KO on the 9th coz Pacquiao let him live LOL!!
During bradleys first fight to Pacquiao,the Judges were Jose Feliciano,Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder,thats why he won
that fight..
Because they were california dreaming, judges lets go get stoned the fight was signed sealed delivered rigged matched.
That's why MMA is miles better than BOXING.
THANK YOU!!!
Piripiao there's still shitty judging decision in mma
What good MMA events have been on in 2017?
Maurice Holloway and aldo was pretty good fight
Piripiao both are trash
fighting belongs in the past there's no benefit from this sport just years of memory loss and concussions
Pac was also cheated out the fight against this clown "ya know"
what bout the 3 fights marquez got robbed from pac i guess karma comes back.
Rolando Macias you kidding? hell boy
u drunk as hell
FlyWorld Fitness hell yea
I knoooe, bradley wouldnt be selected to be on a jury... "sir, do you think Manny Pacquiao got robbed?"
"aaaaaah, naw joe"
Asking a person to determine if this is a robbery the same person who was also granted the win through a robbery dont be surpriser about the answer
Bradley is still salty when he fought manny
What a disappointing decision seems like the judges were watching a different kind of fight. Pacquiao won that fight hands down.
Mayweather is a MARATHON RUNNER,with boxing gloves ,not boxer.
You still sour Bradley? And Horn took Pacmans best shots at 38 - the ref saved him in the 9th - how you not going to deduct for clear head butts and continuous shots to the back of the head in the clinch - the judges were paid. I hope Pacman/Horn 2 in the Philippines and when Pacman wins that title back, he just throws that belt in the air and lets it land on the canvas and walks away throwing up deuces at the WBO and heads off to party with the people. 😂
Jeff horn got beat like a drum ..
Bradley got his own bs win against Manny. Then Manny beat him with ease.
I thought maidana was a wild dirty fighter but horn was the dirtiest fighter I ever seen in my life omg he needs to be fined and the ref.
Strange it's the refs first time being a boxing ref and was hired by arum.
Stephen A's face when Tim says " I think he can compete with them." is priceless. Jeff will get toyed with by the likes of Keith Thurman and Errol Spence.
u wait and see. he is no joke
Nonna Yurbuzness he wouldnt get past broner and we all know broner is trash shawn porter would end horn in 3
Luke emery he is no joke. Looool.
And he was right, Crawford destroyed Horn lol
not a robbery. It was a close fight. Horn won the 1st 2 rounds and the championship rounds. I had him winning at least 5. People forget judges score round by round not the whole fight. every round is a seperate fight. 1, 2 6, 10, 11, 12 Horn won in my opinion. He controlled the 3 minute intervals of those rounds.
Funny Bradley lost his first fight with PAC man but judges ruled him the winner he won 1 round on everyone else's card but he won 😂
Man, this is tough to watch. You could even see Tim Bradley struggling to answer Stephen's questions he can't even pull through 😂😂😂 Tim be digging his grave on this one 😂😂😂
Opinion from another Robber Boxer 😂😂😂
Manny Pacquiao hurt Jeff Horn a HELL OF A LOT more than Floyd Mayweather hurt Marcos Maidana.
Yet one of them gets a win and the other gets a unanimous decision loss. Hmm....
Bradley was bitter,he lost against Pacquiao..
Bradley's first fight vs Pac Man was a robbery. He knows it. Then Pac comes back and whoops him. Smh...shut up Bradley.
Of all the people to ask about a judges decision you ask this guy who robbed the hell out of Manny smh
Pac vs bradley 1 was also a robbery
Pacman outlanded Horn 182-92. Who scored for Horn 117-111 over Pacman? Was it the same judge who scored for Bradley?
Go back and actually count the punches bro gtfoh you can’t believe are go with the punch state bs. Always wrong
Stephen A. be like "He [Manny] can't beat Thurman", 2 years later Manny put Thurman down first round and made him breathe the whole arena with a body punch.
i think Stephen A. is referring to jeff horn not pacman
once upon a time after pacquiao and horn's fight, WBO is dead.
after all the dirty moves and headbutts by jeff , not even one point detected and they robbed manny title...A true sports man should admit his loss , jeff is not a sports man nor boxer just a brawler who brawled and robbed mannys title
3 years later 40 yr old manny smoked Keith Thurman 🤣 and Jeff horn got smoked by Crawford
tim got the same privilege in his first fight with Pacman, so naturally he will defend Horn
keep it a100 people just mad because no body didn't no who jeff horn was and Manny didn't knock em out irregardless when or lose it was a good fight ✊👊 give horn some credit
its a good fight cause i saw a walking punching bag that punches back. Then won the fight.
Timmy, you lost the first one with Pac. You know. Your sympathizing with Horn
Better fight than Connor / Floyd
Don't speak too soon, if Connor upsets Floyd then that would be HUGE
Drewminatti no lmao
Drewminatti who's Connor ?
you know damn well the judge will be on Floyd side
Mase379 facts
Bradley stole 1 from PacMan also ! lol
I honestly want to know why people are calling this a robbery? I haven't watched the entire fight but I had Horn up quite a bit going into the 8th round. I only had Manny winning the 2nd up to that point with another round being real close. I woke up and saw all this robbery noise.
Bradley are your serious ? Jeff can compete with all the top fighters? Well I lost the respect. I had for you .it was not your fault the judges award you the first fight with Manny , but every one knows who the real winner is in every match .
I'm not a fan of Pacquiao but he clearly fairly won this fight. People love the drama so much! An underdog winning BS. But 2 headbutts, and less punches landed didn't make you a winner. It made you a reality drama star.
pac had him hurt and the 9th and couldnt seal the deal
Stephen: Mr. five time champion 🏆🏆🏆🏆 🏆 Division ➗➗ iii get you one more time from that thing you said he can beat anybody in this division ➗➗ i won't think he defeat Errol spence jr. I don't think he can beat Keith Thurman i don't think 🤔🤔 he won't beat Danny Garcia i don't see it happening
Bradley: I think he can beat all of them honestly honestly I think he can beat all of them 🤣😂 this young guy he took Manny Pacquiao Best shot 🥃🥃 he survived almost a K.O in 9th 😴😴 Round he know applied pressure to Manny Pacquiao which we don't see 🙈🙈 anybody not 🚫🚫 include myself you know you know May Weather this K I D 👱🏻♂👱🏻♂ Fought him you know I think he tough to beat anybody to Welterweight division ➗➗ Honestly with 17 fights
Stephen: OKAY 🙄🙄 alright I mean you know I can hear 🙉🙉 you
Me: hoo 😯😯 Hi guys you know how many times I Recently Editing this stuff a Couple of Million times 🤣🤣
Tim Bradley won the same way against PAC man
Manny is the real winner
Bradley is brave enough to say the truth.....Manny was shut down.....noone was watching his moves......except in the 9th round. Horn has guts. U will all be eating ur words in a few years time! Horn is the ONE!
Can someone explain why they hate the decision
a lot of people both fans and pundits thought pacquiao won the fight. the general consensus from what ive read is that horn showed a lot of heart but pacquiao really outboxed him
Pacman genuinely outboxed him even at his old age, but horn somehow won even though pacman had more points.
zero when you dominate a majority of the rounds (in the eyes of everyone not Australian), land more punches all around, and still lose by unanimous decision (one judge favored the underdog 117-111 winning on his scorecard as well). This all points to Someone's getting paid off.
Respect for teddy atlas and stephen A.
What do u expect from Bradley he got a championship the same way.
TB: "We really saw mannys age tonight."
Also TB: "Jeff took mannys best shots."
Comon mr. Bow boxer bradley, admit it. You have a brain thats already been shaked by manny.hahahahaah
Ok.
Alright.
Thats it.
Brush yo' teeth!
I knew It. Horn win because he survives. and That how he win.. RIP Boxing... RIP SCORE
Timothy Bradley won in the same kind of fashion..
Tim , Manny can still beat you down ...
yeah he put pressure on manny.... USING HEAD AND ELBOW ./.
Bradley knows Manny got robbed against him.
Well, he's one of those boxer that got beat up by Pac. First match they give it to Bradley, which is obviously rigged.
Horn will never be known to beat Manny!
Horn's face would've been worse if Pacquiao didn't have those cuts.. Boxing corruption is alive and well.
everytime i watch this fight, the next thing to relieve my anger is to watch Terrence Vs Horn. Thank you so much Terrence Crawford!
"how you doing steph" lmaof!!
Bradley is biased cuz thats how he "won" the first Pacquiao fight, by awful judges decisions
Horn Won, 115 -113 or 114 -113 if you give pac a 10 - 8 round in the 9th.
agreed
Just DeWitt no he didn't pac clearly beat him, he literally beat horn in EVERY SINGLE STAT CATEGORY
yeah, really, please explain,,,,
u cant use compubox to score a fight. u can have one bad round like Horn did in the 9th and it will skew the results. Horn won more rounds than Pac period.
ElSpewtardo you know nothing about boxing mate
lmao the way the video cuts off it seems like Stephen is like "oh I hear you, get this foo off the air"
I think Bradley has a crush on horn
bradley is okay with this cause he himself was givin a gift decision over pacman. he didnt want to be a hypocrite
how do u give somebody a fight when he got beat so bad in the 9th round they almost stopped the fight his eye was half way shut his nose was broken eardrum was busted and u say horn won besides the first round manny dominated this kid only reason Manny was bleeding because horns a dirty fighter head butting him every chance he got
aj little winning 1 round and landing 3 or 4 clean shots per round vs your opponent pressuring u and landing on you doesnt win you the fight
Asstrologist what rock were u under this was 2 months ago move on
easy, you beat the other fighter in other rounds,
Most of the boxing fans didn't acknowledge this fight Horns winning this match.
Bradley can tell how Manny lost. Pay the Judges 😂😂
Lost respect on Bradley....
Stephen A's response at the end... sarcasm at its finest, lol
The judge should score by replay
U know what cuz bradley know what horn feeling when robbing pacman hahaha
The fight was more about judgement on what Pacquiao can do than Horn cannot. Its unfair because Manny was the champ. He should have won it all 115-113 UD.
damn robbed once again!!! I guess the refs saw something we didnt!!! oh yea that's right $$$$
I'll tell you one more thing if I had lost my son the way Arum did I wouldn't be smiling as much as he does. Bob Arum is a disgrace to boxing.
Bradley is just covering the fight when he fought manny paquiao..
Yall just hatin, Bradley admits he didnt see Horn win it, BUT at least he sees the positive side about Horn surviving the 9th round even with a face like he got hit by a train... Gotta love the honesty and heart of Bradley...
Beacause bradley relate horn that much. they both share the same faith in the hands of pacquiao. he relate this much
Jeff Horn won... the wrestling portion of the match lol!
This is a fixed fight. Period.
Yeah right, what you'd expect to hear from somebody who robbed the same person.
Pac looked like he came from jogging while Horn looked like he needed to go straight to the hospital
obviously this guy had same sentiment experience with the same guy who's clearly they both Robbed this guy. Stephen Quote " OKAY" 😒😒😒
SAS don't even like Manny like that. You know this fight was rigged.
it's true no one fight paqui like this...
I love stephen tone very understanding
atleast the fight was more entertaining then manny vs mayweather fight
That awkward moment when you were in the same situation as horn, years prior and have flashbacks lol
Stephen a. abd Bradley,
you two should stop asking ur both opinions. u hve different jobs. the one has to make criticism while the boxer must give a compliment to his mates. . he can't just throw words of discouragements or it would be seem that he wants to dare the later😅
so stop ur nonsense
Legend says that Tim Bradley thinks he still won’t against Manny Pacquiao in their first fight.
Bradly shouldn’t spectate, he’s got brain damage
It was a great fight and you got it for free. Weird result but that is not either of the fighters faults. Both fighters left it all out there and was great to see. Horn showed real guts and far exceeded expectations. Judges should be looked at but blaming it on Horn is petty and a sign that you aren't a real fan of boxing.
partly blame on him for not admitting defeat...but since it was it in his hometown i can see why he didn't do it
I feel bad for him. It should be such a happy day for him as a young fighter and it has been ruined. Not how he would have wanted to win his first belt.
He probably did feel he won it, obviously I doubt he thinks he won it 117-111 though.
Carl Crave as a fighter it's kinda hard to admit defeat in Jeff Horn situation. The original poster is correct we should be very proud of both fighters. The judges are to be blamed for this and hopefully Jeff Horn will go on to defend his title like a true champion.
Sephor - Still proud of Manny but not with a dirty fighter like Horn, I thought I'm watching ufc because how many times Horn gave Pacman headbutts,headlocks & dirty shoulder but the referee doesnt even bother to call his attention or warn him for that? it should be minus points for that dirty fighter bogus winner. oh well,how can Manny win if one against five? ( Manny vs 3 judges,referee & horn the dirty fighter)
Go be salty somewhere else. It wasn't a head lock, he just held him in the clinch. Its boxing, get over it.
I know Bradley doesn't say what he thinks. He knows Pacquiao wins but because of pride, he says what he says.
Yes, by headbutting manny
showed his 38 years of age. Proceeds to defeat Thurman years later in his 40s. HAHA