ha, i've loved this sonata for years and then one day youtube suggested me Bartok Winnie and i was really amused. glad Winnie's dancing to the best recording of this piece.
Only 40 seconds in and i already added this to my favourite music playlist lol. I love how clearly the typical voice of Bartok rings out in the first movement. His is a style i will never tire of.
@@Alix777.It's MUCH TOO YOUNG, may be not for an ordinary or uninterresting man, but certainly for such a pianist and conductor, whom you seem not to know.
You know, I'll always admire the musicianship of Martha Agerich and I was blown away by her performance of this sonata. But I feel that Kocsis has brought much more to it in the way of nuance and rhythm. he doesn't "beat the crap out of it " like Agerich seems to do at times.
THE INDUSTRIAL SONATA 0:00 THE IRON FOUNDRY 4:31 THE CLOCK TOWER 4:57 The Clockmaker At Work in the Black Forest 5:37 Clock Tower Chimes in the Distance with Church Bells as the First Rays of the Sun Welcome the Morning 8:43 THE RAILYARD 11:22 The Locomotive Starts Chugging 11:36 The Locomotive Blows a Big Whistle to Remind Those on the Tracks to Move the Fuck Out of the Way 11:48 Locomotive Rings its Bell 11:58 SUPRISE! The End.
I picture an iron foundry scene here. It's quite a mistake I don't listen to enough contemporary classical piano. When you live in the city you can't just keep listening to Romantic or Baroque music - it is somehow too far-fetched from the hustle and bustle of the folk here. This is more like it!
Yes, I never quite get into the fast synchopated passages Beethoven, cause like, when am I gonna ride a horse? I need those sudden upbeats to remind me of getting on and off the subway.
This ternary sonata, with its toccata-like first movement, its central movement which avoids any sentimentality, leving the romme to mysterious and veiled moods, and its vivd finale, bears the strong heritage of Beethoven. Prokofiev also wrote silimar compositions, but his excellent sonatas are more anecdotic, while Bartok goes strauight to his aim without looking aside. This is for sure one of the best sonatas for piano of the first half od thre XXth century.
somehow I get the feeling they based them on the same folk songs.... I hear elements of Les Noces in here too [although to a lesser extent] but surely as a collector of Romanian and Hungarian folk melodies he wouldn't be using Russian folksongs for his Sonata?
This recording sounds extremely good- it is very nice that the great work has not been filed away; as it is unique and unusual it could possibly be overlooked. Bartok was interested in shamanism- american even. Shamen try to get their apprentices away from the purely cerebral attention. It is incorrect to think this is music for an indian on the war path, or someone with similar affect- it isn't angry music, I think. Third movement is like a piece de resistance....
Amennyire jó ez a Japán felvétel, annyival jobb az újra felvett verzió 93-ból. (Azt hiszem a Philips gondozásában jelent meg). Egyébként örülök, hogy újabban odaírod a dátumot :)
WoW! Miket fel nem ismersz: csak lesek?! ;) Én tudtommal ez Hungaroton-felvétel, csak a japánok is kiadták jó minőségben, cd-n.A másik infót köszi, nem tudtam.
Igyekszem mindig kiírni minden dátumot. Ha megnézed az előadók születési és esetleges halálozási dátumát is kiírom. De ennek előfeltétele, hogy tudjam őket. ;)
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Hello tnsamesoralong... I hope you will be please with my last upload.. :) It is the Bartók Sonata - you find it on my profile.. (it is almost 10 years old record from the period around my graduation at conservatory. Among the others, I played this pieces on my final recital.. (as a last, final piece.. :) ) As always, thanks for watching/listening.. Btw. - I am curious if I will ever upload something what you don't have on your profile.. :) - maybe the rest of sonatas by Czech composer Luboš Fišer, with them I could succeed. With the rest - no way.. :)
after listening to several sonatas by the likes of prokofiev and scriabin i feel completely revitalized listening to bartók. only bartók seems to have been connected to reality.
I love all of these 3 composers but your comment really annoys me . Only Bartok seems to have been connected to reality?!? What nonsense. Every one of them expressed their thoughts and beliefs differently but why should be Bartoks music be more realistic? Music is always realistic
even i don't agree with my comment from 6 years ago lol, prokofiev's third piano sonata is incredible. evidently i used to try to sound profound by saying things with no evidence. @@Octatonic
Second movement is like Dada, use of junk harmony- but much more... Incredibly dolorous vibes, at times... worry less over time, the music insists? First movement: Lust for life, unfiltered, uncut and uncensored; extra- or para-cerebral.
Here from Bartok Winnie.
same
ha, i've loved this sonata for years and then one day youtube suggested me Bartok Winnie and i was really amused. glad Winnie's dancing to the best recording of this piece.
Only 40 seconds in and i already added this to my favourite music playlist lol. I love how clearly the typical voice of Bartok rings out in the first movement. His is a style i will never tire of.
Zoltan Kocsis was a great pianist (and later a conductor), who died too young and in a too great indifference.
Not old but he was 64, which was how long Bela Bartok lived
64 is not young
@@Alix777.It's MUCH TOO YOUNG, may be not for an ordinary or uninterresting man, but certainly for such a pianist and conductor, whom you seem not to know.
MAGNIFIQUE !! quelle performance...
Great phrasing, wonderful flow and clarity.
You know, I'll always admire the musicianship of Martha Agerich and I was blown away by her performance of this sonata. But I feel that Kocsis has brought much more to it in the way of nuance and rhythm. he doesn't "beat the crap out of it " like Agerich seems to do at times.
sometimes "beating the crap out of it" is exactly what the composer wants, though you are right about the nuances
Yes, because Kocsis is Hungarian, and he has done I think the deepest researches as for Bartok's musics concerned.
Kocsis has more depth to my ears as well. The drier acoustic is another asset.
Simply awesome! So much power and beauty.
THE INDUSTRIAL SONATA
0:00 THE IRON FOUNDRY
4:31 THE CLOCK TOWER
4:57 The Clockmaker At Work in the Black Forest
5:37 Clock Tower Chimes in the Distance with Church Bells as the First Rays of the Sun Welcome the Morning
8:43 THE RAILYARD
11:22 The Locomotive Starts Chugging
11:36 The Locomotive Blows a Big Whistle to Remind Those on the Tracks to Move the Fuck Out of the Way
11:48 Locomotive Rings its Bell
11:58 SUPRISE! The End.
did you come up with these? really inventive
Dark and beautiful. Excellence at its highest level.
Best performance I've heard!
Kocsis, rest in piece
I picture an iron foundry scene here. It's quite a mistake I don't listen to enough contemporary classical piano. When you live in the city you can't just keep listening to Romantic or Baroque music - it is somehow too far-fetched from the hustle and bustle of the folk here. This is more like it!
Yes, I never quite get into the fast synchopated passages Beethoven, cause like, when am I gonna ride a horse? I need those sudden upbeats to remind me of getting on and off the subway.
Yes, you should try Ives' 4th Symphony. Sounds exactly like the craziness of NYC
Astounding playing, a masterclass in how you play Bartók.
Superb performance
Quelle étonnante fin : pas de fin. Et on se demande comment on aurait pu finir ce finale autrement.
Thank you!
Thanks !
Holy fuck this actually made me feel something
@LebesgueStieltjes
Köszönöm a kommentet. Egyetértek, az általad linkelt Kocsis-felvétel is nagyon jó.
Sőt látványos is :)
This ternary sonata, with its toccata-like first movement, its central movement which avoids any sentimentality, leving the romme to mysterious and veiled moods, and its vivd finale, bears the strong heritage of Beethoven. Prokofiev also wrote silimar compositions, but his excellent sonatas are more anecdotic, while Bartok goes strauight to his aim without looking aside. This is for sure one of the best sonatas for piano of the first half od thre XXth century.
If you like this sonata you ought to try Ginastera's First Sonata. Clearly he was a big fan of Bartok.
@@calebhu6383that sonata feels as if bartok and ravel had a child imo
@@EntelSidious_gamzeylmz Lmao that sounds wrong if you read it the other way
1:11 planing texture in the left hand
It reminds me somehow Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring"
and "l'Histoire du Soldat"
Aydar Akhmady YEESSSS I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THAT
It cuz of the D I S O N E N C E
somehow I get the feeling they based them on the same folk songs.... I hear elements of Les Noces in here too [although to a lesser extent] but surely as a collector of Romanian and Hungarian folk melodies he wouldn't be using Russian folksongs for his Sonata?
And Petrushka !
I can't help but be reminded of rhapsody in blue during the 3rd section
This recording sounds extremely good- it is very nice that the great work has not been filed away; as it is unique and unusual it could possibly be overlooked. Bartok was interested in shamanism- american even. Shamen try to get their apprentices away from the purely cerebral attention. It is incorrect to think this is music for an indian on the war path, or someone with similar affect- it isn't angry music, I think. Third movement is like a piece de resistance....
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6:36 always reminds me of Ravel's Le Gibet; a possible influence perhaps??
Is this played on a bosendorfer? With the extra bass notes?
Amennyire jó ez a Japán felvétel, annyival jobb az újra felvett verzió 93-ból. (Azt hiszem a Philips gondozásában jelent meg). Egyébként örülök, hogy újabban odaírod a dátumot :)
WoW! Miket fel nem ismersz: csak lesek?! ;)
Én tudtommal ez Hungaroton-felvétel, csak a japánok is kiadták jó minőségben, cd-n.A másik infót köszi, nem tudtam.
Igyekszem mindig kiírni minden dátumot.
Ha megnézed az előadók születési és esetleges halálozási dátumát is kiírom.
De ennek előfeltétele, hogy tudjam őket. ;)
Hello tnsamesoralong... I hope you will be please with my last upload.. :) It is the Bartók Sonata - you find it on my profile.. (it is almost 10 years old record from the period around my graduation at conservatory. Among the others, I played this pieces on my final recital.. (as a last, final piece.. :) )
As always, thanks for watching/listening..
Btw. - I am curious if I will ever upload something what you don't have on your profile.. :) - maybe the rest of sonatas by Czech composer Luboš Fišer, with them I could succeed. With the rest - no way.. :)
1975 X. 23-24.
after listening to several sonatas by the likes of prokofiev and scriabin i feel completely revitalized listening to bartók. only bartók seems to have been connected to reality.
You should give a listen to Stravinsky's piano sonata (1924). For me it also has that roughness of true feelings I'm searching for in every music
Given how absolute horrible it was to live under Stalin's Russia, Prokofiev might have been trying to escape from reality
actually, you do have a point. i'm learning his third right now, it is utter merriment
I love all of these 3 composers but your comment really annoys me . Only Bartok seems to have been connected to reality?!? What nonsense. Every one of them expressed their thoughts and beliefs differently but why should be Bartoks music be more realistic? Music is always realistic
even i don't agree with my comment from 6 years ago lol, prokofiev's third piano sonata is incredible. evidently i used to try to sound profound by saying things with no evidence. @@Octatonic
Please send secret sheets for me
Check the IMSLP the copyright is over in most countries.
Tokyo, Arakawa Kumin Kaikan
0:00 4:31
Second movement is like Dada, use of junk harmony- but much more... Incredibly dolorous vibes, at times... worry less over time, the music insists? First movement: Lust for life, unfiltered, uncut and uncensored; extra- or para-cerebral.
You can hear the Asian influence
You can hear you are wrong!
Folk influence sure, not necessarily Asian
Moonlight sonate
Tapping into Bartok is musical punishment
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