The Dark Truth About Disney's The Hunchback of Notre Dame
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Today we look at the hidden religious messages in The Hunchback of Notre Dame. This is one of Disney's heaviest and most mature films and underneath its narrative lies powerful statements about Christianity and the nature of man.
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“I am a pious man. No temptation can stray me from the path of God.”
“Lord Frollo, there’s an extra thicc Gypsy girl outside with no shoes on.”
“😈”
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For sho sho 😅😅😅🏃🏽♂️
Hahahhahahahahaha....”thicc”
Hrrnng, Quasimodo, I'm trying to sneak out of the cathedral, but I'm dummy thicc, and the clap of my asscheeks keeps alerting judge claude frollo to my escape
My fucking god yes XD
There's a reason Frollo doesn't show up a lot. He's not goofy or funny in any way most Disney villains are, or "cool" in the likes of Maleficent. He's realistic, and on a deep instinctual level, the kind of villain that leaves us all feeling slimy being close to. There is nothing redeeming in him at all.
@Blue .Barrymore More like Harris, except the sniffing is definitely Biden.
@Blue .Barrymore
No need to bring politics into everything. They brought it into sports and made everything into crap.
I believe that was the point; Frollo is a darker villain because he is not evil for the sake and fun of being a villain, but in a twisted way, believes himself to be a good man because to him, every evil thing he does is in the name of God. He has brainwashed himself.
@Blue .Barrymore I was thinking that lol like the men who are anti-abortion unless one of their mistresses get pregnant.
He’s the kind of evil that exists in this world for sure. Lawful Evil is always terrifying
Hunchback of Notre Dame was rated G and yet it is considered to be the darkest Disney movie of all time. It had religion, genocide, murder, oppression, torture, lust & sin. All of that material were in the movie because of the villain Judge Claude Frollo. He was a religious man, committed genocide & oppressed the gypsies, he murdered Quasimodo's mother, he tortured the citizens of Paris and Esmeralda by burning them alive & lusted after Esmeralda by groping her and threatening her. The worst thing of all about Frollo was that he believed that all the stuff he did was in the name of GOD.
-“darkest Disney movie of all time”
Ah, I see you hadn’t had the pleasure of having “The Dark Cauldron” literally haunt your childhood dreams.
Seriously though, look up the horned king speech and deleted scenes as well. It’s dark man.
@@Jackbarrany There both equally dark IMO.
If I remember right there was a part of the song where he alluded to the skin, think it was mentioned as a phrase for her being a prostitute as well. Haven’t watched video so don’t know if that was mentioned.
@@Jackbarrany I believe that the unfunny Gargoyles were made to justify the film's G rating and Failed.
Something else about Frollo was that even though he claimed to be a man of god, when he sings hellfire, he blames god for making the "devil so much stronger than a man." He was willing to blame the one he worships to prove he is a righteous man. Also it's called "The Black Cauldron" not the dark cauldron
Quasimodo isnt spiteful towards Esmeralda because he truly loves her and wants her to be happy, even if that means without him. His soul is so pure
I think this is one of the key parts that set the movie apart from other classics. In every Disney movie the MC gets to live with the person they fell in love with. But in this movie it's more realistic. Life isn't so simple. Just because someone is kind to you doesn't mean they have or will develop romantic feelings for you. Esmeralda was one of the first people to ever show kindness to Quasimodo (the other being the knight). So, it's normal for him to fall for her. But he realized that his two friends, Esmeralda and the knight, love each other and are happy together. So he made the mature choice and kept his relationship with Esmeralda at a friend's level.
Watching this as a child shocked me coz I was sure he'll get the girl. But the end result shook me. After I was older, I realized how mature it is and what a masterpiece this story is. It's sad that kids nowadays probably won't get another movie like "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" from Disney anymore. Disney just doesn't have the balls anymore. They have been castrated.🤣
So true
@@arhamramiz7791 Not true, the MC didn't get the girl in Pocahontas either..
One theme of The Hunchback of Notre Dame is that it’s not a person’s outward appearances that matter, but their inner character that truly defines who a person is. Beauty is found within the content of one’s character, not in physical appearances. But I always find it hilarious that even though they were trying to deliver that message they still have Esmeralda choose the handsome character over the ugly one.
And yet the truth is that Esmeralda rejected him purely because he looks ugly AF. Amazing message from Disney 😂
As a Christian myself, i find this movie to be realistic and one of the darkest and deepest of Disney movies. Showing that Christianity itself has been abused by humans, and the dangers of abuse through Quasimodo.
Throughout history, MANY have used Christianity to further their own goals, false prejudices, and much more corruption.
This is like the story of the tax collector (Quasimodo) and pharisee (Frollo).
The clergy within the Cathedral are ones who actually show what Christians should be, a stark difference than Frollo.
The key is love. The main commandment Jesus gave us before he left.
@@ChineduOpara Its not about death and destruction?
There are no traitors?
Hypocrites are everywhere, thats human nature.
You can be moral and not be a Christian.
The Church denounces those who proclaim God with one hand and do evil with the other.
@@ChineduOpara Trump and his cultists?
The people of the Church vote according to those closest to their beliefs. Its a shame we have to choose between Biden or Trump, but we need to vote regardless.
Bad always outways the good.
You'll always hear the bad, but never hear about the millions of good things that happen.
Its associated by those things based on what media and people's own opinions are, its become "fact" for many. When in fact, 99% of Churches DONT do that. My Church has reached out and has a homeless ministry, someone reaches out to my Church for help, boom they are helped. Someone needs a place to stay or a new car or couch, my Church provides. I know of another Church who helps homeless drug addicts to 1) get off drugs, 2) have a place to stay, 3) get a job and become productive members of society again.
I associate with the "hot mess" because ive experienced more love, more support, more help and the goodness of God through Church than by anyone else. I dated a girl who was bi and her whole family was atheist, after it ended i had to search for myself and found Christianity is truth, not opinions and bias' but actual truth for the world.
Its your opinion to associate Christians within those labels. Its simply not true. Its based on opinions and bad experiences.
@@ChineduOpara I dont mean to be rude but you don't know anything about Christianity. Greed, hate, and lying are all sins. True Christians aren't racist we believe all men are created in the image of God. Christians don't want anyone to be destroyed aside from the devil. Christians want every single human being alive or dead to be saved. No matter what they've done in the past no matter what they're doing currently. The faith is about redemption, hope, sacrifice, and love. You're being lied to even staunch athiests know that our faith isn't hateful. I pray you soften your heart to the truth. Look up some apologetics on RUclips they can explain things better.
@@ChineduOpara So because people don't always live up to the standards they're held to we have to throw away the entire religion? Its in our nature to fail as a preacher you should've understood that. And how in the world is 99% of practice bigoted? What did you do while you were a preacher? Persecute minorities? Every time I've been to church 99% of it is just prayer and worship. We've never had a spit on a jew session. Also churches run food pantrys and fund raise for charities all the time. Some even offer to help pay off debts and bills. And to say that most religious leaders don't want you to read the texts is just a lie. Even if they didn't believe in it themselves they'd want you to read it so they can atleast keep up appearances. You can be a good guy without organized religion. But you can't be a good guy while saying 99% of people of a certain religion are bigoted assholes as you yourself then become the bigot. Also religious people vote for trump because the other option is a candidate that supports abortion.
@@ChineduOpara So are you saying you are not a Christian now? And that it is misguided and its just all corrupt?
Youre right, i havent read every single word of the Bible, front to back. But ive gone through it and studied alot of it. There are things in there we simply cant understand at the moment, as our minds view verses and stories differently each and everytime.
When it comes down to it.
You do you, i do me.
When we die only 2 outcomes are possible.
We die and the Bible was not true whatsoever.
Those that truly accepted Christ into their hearts, lived great lives, loving others and being joyous all their days, have families and guiding others to Christ being some of the best of humanity.
We die and the Bible is completely true.
Those that truly accepted Christ would live eternity in Heaven.
But for non believers. While they could be great people regardless of their beliefs.
If the Bible and Heaven are real, they will be eternal damnation.
If it isnt then nothing to sweat.
I only watched this movie once as a kid because i thought it was boring. Dam was i wrong
Same
It appears that this movie suffers from being miscast for younger children, cause if you described this disney film as having more overt adult tones and themes, WHOO boy that would be an understatement.
Same here I like it now that I'm 30 but was so bored with it as a child
My fav movie. The religious themes are something special. Hellfire, with the background voices screaming "mea culpa" ,is briljant.
Thank you 👏👏
It hits on a soul level indeed! Like guttural punch to the soul...
Disney's The HunchBack of Notredame is also one of my ALL TIME FAVORITES UNFORTUNATLELY Disney had to take a MASSIVE SHIT on it's MASTERPIECE with THE ABOMINATION HunchBack of Notredame II
@@thing1thing2themediamaniac43 I never bother with the straight to dvd releases. I don’t think there has been one that wasn’t an abomination
Dies Irae is also featured in “bells of Notre Dame”- a latin poem/hymn about the final judgement.
The main difference between the film and book is that in the film, Frollo is not an ordained member of the French clergy, but a self-righteous and pious judge and the French Minister of Justice. His interactions with the Archdeacon show the difference between those who claim to be men of God and those who actually are Men of the Cloth. And I am not Catholic.
The Romani are also a majority Catholic people.
God Help the Outcasts to me seems like a good example of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector. The other churchgoers are biblically accurate, but only those who humble themselves before God will be exalted.
During Hellfire, when the guard comes in with news that Esmerelda escaped Notre Dame, it is symbolic of God offering one last chance for Frollo to turn back. The heavenly light from the door contrasting the darkness and the fireplace. But Frollo turns towards the fire, towards his downfall. Free to stand, though capable to fall - Paradise Lost
Quasimodo-Patron Saint of the Friend Zone
Yoooooooo!!!! that last part about frollos last chance I never noticed that
Wack
The good side of the Friend Zone.
I definitely got some Parable of the Pharisee and the Tax Collector vibes from "God Help the Outcasts", though I am a Christian so that may have something to do with it.
Despite Quasimodo not receiving Esmeraldas hand in marriage he is the real Hero of the movie, the truly righteous, the pure of heart and of sacrificial spirit. God has big plans for Quasimodo! :)
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Very rarely do I see videos where people who don't tend to focus on religion tend to actually cover the differences between faith and religion, so good on you there. As a Christian, I can tell you that even inside the Church, this differentiation is not often made. Even some pastors I have seen only come close by using this difference to try and justice why Christianity is right and all other "religions" are wrong, a notion I am not particularly fond of as I believe that kind of thinking in the church can and has lead us into trouble before.
I also like how you point out who is actually a member of the church and the behaviors differ. Touching on the differences between Frollo and the Archdeacon, even as both are portrayed to be members of the church, is also a point that a lot of RUclips movie analysts miss, preferring instead to take the "easy" route of using Frollo to just say that the church is evil, and everyone outside of it, as symbolized by the gypsies and town people, are good. We of the church are just as human as everyone else and are therefore, unfortunately, subject to the same whims of fancy that sway everyone else.
So I guess this is all a long way of saying "Thanks for not being lazy with the analysis."
I like to think about it the way Bishop Sheen taught, that all religions even the most absurd ones of our ancestors had or have some truth in them, but that the full revelation of God has been revealed through Jesus Christ.
I thought Disney was for kids but why did he make dark content.
@@CXP3D nah it's for family's
I like how yall differentiated between religion and faith itself
"Mankind got it all wrong by takin' a good idea and building a belief structure out of it."
@@berthulf Could you define the good idea and belief structure please.
@@MatthewSalzer well, in reference to my quote, the speaker was talking about 'religion' in a general way, but the judaic religions more specifically. The belief structures would be those formal religions. The good idea? Interpret as you will, but the basis for those religions is a god like parent figure in the sky that wants you to be a good person.
That quote is word for word from Rufus, the thirteenth apostle, in the film Dogma, but for a comedy, it is often highly apt in its critiques.
@@berthulf Well the Judaic religions have always had specific dogma but they've become more complicated with time.
I like how they treat the cathedral almost as a character itself, using language describing it for example as watching Frollo. This may seem like a silly comparison but it’s similar to how they treat certain ships and such in 40k, like Horus’s flagship “Vengeful Spirit.”
Me: Blind faith in any belief is bad.
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Also Me: The Emperor Protects.
FOR THE EMPEROR!
@@andrewsmall6834 In order to ensure our security and continuing stability, the Republic will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire, for a safe and secure society!
@@awtqrtrkjsrs Imperium or bust.
@@andrewsmall6834 For God Emperors!
We are one in the emporor and the will of man
Hellfire; the most sexually charged scenes that Disney has ever dared to do. :D
I constantly watched this movie as a kid. (Mostly because I had a crush on Esmeralda)
I realized how dark it was when I rewatched it last year.
I honestly can’t believe that my parents let me watch this-
This film currently takes the fourth spot on my top five scariest childhood films
Child brainwashing , there are no children movies.
What's the other four? I wanna know!
@@lonelyronin2428 Tarzan is number five, Matilda is number three, Chitty chitty bang bang is number two and Watership down is number one
Black Cauldron was my number 1 too scary for me as a kid movie, but this was probably 3rd or 4th on the list.
@@deanangell3839 I definitely had Chitty Chitty Bang Bang as number 2 as well, rewatching it as an adult it doesn't explicitly show too much horror but it really encouraged the imagination to dream up what being a child kid on the run from somewhat cannibal vibes to getting caught and what slave would be like and that was terrifying
"Absolute power corrupts absolutely." Hence why the Founding Fathers, in their infinite wisdom, were all like, "yeah, that church and state thing... we're gonna separate that and then ensure the protected rights of the citizenry to free speech, freedom of and from religion as well as to keep and bear arms to defend themselves from said tyranny."
Hmmmmmm interesting right
And somehow that got twisted into the banning of religion in state institutions.
But lemme keep my slaves though
O M G. The book is so different! The only thing in common is Quasimodo. For example, in the book Frollo IS the Archdeacon, and Phoebus helps capture Esmeralda (who isn't even a real gypsy). If you think Disney's made up movie is dark, check out the book.
Victor Hugo was the OG grimdark author
and at the end pretty much everyone is dead.
I remember when I was younger that it always bothered me that Quasi didn't get to be with Esmeralda, but upon watching the movie as an adult, I rather like this ending better. For me, Quasi not ending up with Esmeralda wasn't sending a bad message, he knew what would make her happiest. Pheobus even stepped back near the end, remaining quiet to give Quasi a chance to embrace Esmeralda, and even stayed back until Quasi took his hand to reunite the two officially. Quasi wasn't abandoned by Esmeralda, or looked over for the handsome Prince. Quasi, foiling Frollo, looked past and got over his feelings for Esmeralda, knowing that his first friend would be happier with the man she truly loved, rather than selfishly trying to keep her to himself.
Also that can be an interesting parallel between him and Frolo. Frolo wishes to keep her all to himself with Quasi is selfless and lets another man have her
One theme of The Hunchback of Notre Dame is that it’s not a person’s outward appearances that matter, but their inner character that truly defines who a person is. Beauty is found within the content of one’s character, not in physical appearances. But I always find it hilarious that even though they were trying to deliver that message they still have Esmeralda choose the handsome character over the ugly one.
One of my favorite parts of this movie is the Latin in the background.
In Hellfire the monks say a line in between Frollo’s and when you combine these lines they roughly translate to “Father I have sinned exceedingly in thought, word, and deed.” It’s almost as if the lines act to challenge Frollo’s claims. The “saints” of Notre Dame know of Frollo’s hypocrisy. He claims he is a virtuous man, yet he has sinful thoughts and is cruel. It’s not Esmeralda’s fault Frollo lusts after her. The only one to blame is Frollo for his thoughts.
Then he is faced by the hooded figures who chant “mea culpa” (my fault) and “mea maxima culpa” (I have failed).
At the end, they chant “Kyrie Eleison” which means “God have mercy.” The saints knows Frollo is going to take his frustration out on Paris. It eludes back to the opening scene with Frollo and the archdeacon. “You never can run from nor hide what you’ve done from the eyes of Notre Dame.” And then- “the saints regarded Frollo from their stone facade. And he felt their gaze as if it were the eyes of God.”
There is a Broadway version of The Hunchback of Notre Dame. They did make it more like the book, but kept most of the songs. They also added a song right after Hellfire called “Esmeralda” and it follows Frollo while he sets Paris ablaze.
Am I the only one uncomfortable about how in the movie Esmerelda is early 20s and Frollo is 50-something..... (and in the book she’s 16 and he’s 30-something)
Ummmmmm that book is so bad um that is wrong um
I think it’s supposed to be uncomfortable. It’s supposed to be wrong. Esmeralda and Frollo would never been able to have a healthy relationship, and I think they wanted to emphasize that in every way they could
It was normal back then (1400s) but is really wrong in our modern world.
That's the point its creepy and gross
He’s probably at least 65 given that he had gray hair at the beginning of the movie.
And let's not forget that Quasimodo is also a Gypsy (thus herectic from birth, according to Frollo), perhaps even related to Esmeralda, without knowledge of either of them
Heresy is wrong belief Romani (Gypsys) r an ethic group and r not heretics by ancestry.
@@jonathanhosh4459 that's why the person said it's according to Frollo....
This was a better breakdown and critique than I expected it to be. Well done.
I’ve never seen the movie, but I appreciate how well thought-out and insightful your videos and reviews are, so watched it anyway. Really good episode, mate-
Thank you as always!
Frollo is the most real,dark and serious villains in any disney animated
agree, little mermaid and those movies have what are kind of fun villains, but like you said frollo is a true dark evil villain
Great job on this analysis! Victor Hugo is my all-time favourite literary figure. He was a man of substantial status who always championed the poor and underdogs of his day. He was a trailblazer in that sense. A very inspirational man
American Ben you took this video to a whole nother level. Very well done
This is one of the best and most eloquent takes I've ever heard about this movie, which is my messy, beloved favorite. I love the juxtaposition of Quasimodo and Frollo in terms of their masculinity shown in being romantically rejected. Of course Quasi is upset and hurt, but he DOESN'T act in a toxic manner, as opposed to Frollo who...well *gestures as the city in flames*
The thing about the message of being kind to people despite them not giving him what he wants is in itself possibly problematic, because someone who is inherently good and willing to be kind no matter what kinda sets one up to be basically used like a doormat. And that is extremely damaging to one's self-worth and mental health over time. If that's the takeaway and what ends up happening in the film, it's likely that Quasimodo will descend further into depression and despair.
I agree with you but that is what makes him selfless.
@@davidnobles6106 And being selfless is good. But there’s a point where even selfless people need to know it’s okay to say no
I'm not saying that his selflessness is the healthiest option. But neither is running into a burning building to save someone. Selfless virtuous characters in stories very rarely take the option that's best for them. That's generally why we regard them as Brave or courageous because they disregard their own well-being.
He dies in the book, along with half the cast. Pretty morbid, and Disney changed EVERYTHING to make a movie? Cheats classic literature on this film....
I would love to see you guys make a video over the musical version!
A brief synopsis: Do not read to the end if you would like to avoid the major spoilers.
It is significantly darker.
The people treat Quasimodo as the monster he appears to be.
Frollo is actually the arch-deacon, so it makes the religious tones even darker.
Quasimodo is actually the son of Frollo's estranged brother who slept with a Gypsy and eventually died from illness, hence Frollo's hatred of Gypsy culture and people.
Esmeralda actually dies from being burned at the stake.
Quasimodo then throws Frollo from the top of Notre Dame. (People always laughed at this when we performed it a few years back...)
If you ever get the chance to see this live, it truly is worth it. It has even more great music, and the story is much more harrowing.
Really enjoyed your breakdown! This is one my favorite Disney movies and, in my opinion, the best score of any Disney movie. The themes of power play and righteousness are very advanced for a children’s movie. You do a fantastic job explaining all of these themes. Thank You!
This is what I took from the whole Esmeralda and Capt. Phebus hook up at the end. Frollo saw her as the devil, while Quasimodo saw her as an angel, but Capt. Phebus saw her as her, as a woman, nothing more nothing less. He saw her as a person.
Also I love it that the gargoyle took Frollo down to the hellfire below. Gargoyles are protectors of churches. That gargoyle did his job well to ward off evil. 😎
In conclusion, don't give incels to much power
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@Mollof you spelled 'any' wrong...
@@berthulf
BAHAHA TRUE
Frollo wasn't an incel, he was a volcel.
That song Hellfire was foreshadowing.
But The Hunchback of Notre Dame is a dark film all Disney films are messed up
Read the original book, quite a horrific ending, not Disney pleasing at all...
Wonder how the remake is going to do all of it?
They could make it an M-rated film
@@llovebleach6530 every old story that was a book first that disney made into a movie non have that happily ever after feeling disney gives us. even fox and the hound had a lot more death and was darker than what disney gave us
This dude and his analysis are the best part of the channel.
In the real story, the girl is hang and Quasimodo go to her body and let him die of sadness, their bones are united forever. To hard for disney I think....
9:14 perfect place for youtube to play an ad after what you said.
Ikr
Dudeeee! I clicked the time stamp and an ad played!
It was a luvs ad and then a man ad
Frollo’s face at 6:46 got me in hysterics. 🤣🤣🤣
Really loving these unbiased commentaries on the messages that we may have missed in these movies (atlantis review was really eye opening) when we were younger viewers. I found myself re watching "Alien Nation" tv series recently and its amazing how much of that show, now 30 years old, touches on topics very relatable today. just the pilot episode covered so much, it stands better than some shows we have currently imho. have you guys ever seen it? maybe can do a critique of that so as well, if you have time. I'd love to hear your views.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame is Disney's darkest, most gritty and most adult film that they've ever released. It's such as underrated masterpiece. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Oh if only you'd seen the 1998 French/Quebecois musical. So beautiful, so heartbreaking... The same dark and light human themes form Victor Hugo's original book, incredible music, amazing choreography and postmodern scenography... and it is the most human experience I think I've had.
Plus, Bruno Pelletier and Garou are incredible.
Hunchback of notradamme would be a perfect movie to adapt to live action. It will have a le miserab vibe.
It needs a PG-17 rating. Fuck it, a M-rating
Yes! Aren’t the og les mis and the hunchback stories written by the same person?
It would need a rated R rating and Hollywood would butcher it 😭 don’t remake something if you can’t improve on the original and to me the original is damn near flawless
@@TheEssJay
Does Disney+ have any adult stuff?
@@evaschroeder3593 yep, Les Misérables and The Hunchback of Notre-Dame were both written by Victor Hugo
Can you please do one on The Parent Trap? Cuz that one just feels like 1960s Mean Girls for me. Would love to see you break that one down! I’m very much enjoying your Disney videos in particular. While my perspective isn’t identical in all your videos, your work is very thoughtful and I wanted you to know that it’s important that you continue streamlining your thoughts. Much respect...take care
This was a bold Disney movie telling the bad side of religion one of the most powerful groups in the world. They won’t do it now since they would lose a lot of money and the church would go after them
Damn, American Ben gettin' all poetic up in here
Am I the only one that thinks the Frollo/Esmeralda relationship is like the Amon Goethe/Helen Hirsch relationship from Schindler's List?
The stage production has several critical differences, and one of the great themes in it is “who is the monster, and who is the man?”
Great video. As a former conservative christian, and only recently mellowed out Atheist, this was a good reminder to treat and judge people as individuals before looking at to the group they subscribe to. I think mankind is generally pretty bad to each other until they are given reasons to be good. Religion can either become this reason, or make the problem worse. I think it is always the wrong reason, however, as faith is definitionally not based on provable fact, but non-the-less, it is still capable of moving the individuals heart and driving the masses to mercy or madness. Paris balanced on a knives edge and could have fallen either way. Better to go without such a volatile believe system.
religion built the cathedral, religion provided sanctuary for long enough that the people were able to take it upon themselves and defend their lives from an evil tyrant who worked its way into their society, and in the end provided a place for a last stand where they could make a defense and win out over evil. There is no reason to believe Frollo would have been a good man if he had just been an atheist, he chose his fate when he sung hellfire and turned away from the literal light of God and appealed to the fire to grant his wishes. To me the movie is about having free will and how the choices you make influence the path you take through life, the cards dealt to you may be your starting point and no 2 people are equal, but the choices you make thereafter have a greater bearing on your destination. Frollo is one of the most powerful men in the city and he is toppled by 3 of the politically weakest people, but 3 people with the strongest spirits/souls in the whole movie. The movie has many scenarios where a character is placed in a predicament and has to make a choice between good and evil, doing the right thing is costly but in the long run those who chose the path of good prevailed. Esmeralda defied Frollo's orders and freed Quasimodo, causing Frollo's guards to attack her. The good soldier saves the family in the burning house, sentencing himself to a hanging for his act of treason against Frollo's authority, and Frollo appeals to his base nature and turns his back to God and spirituality, and in doing so he lives by the sword and then dies by it.
You brought your A-Game as usual, excellent analysis. We just have to work on the T-shirt brother. Much Love!
Second, this movie was a masterpiece
i think it was good Quasimodo didn't up with Esmerelda, shows kids not every story ends with some kind of true loves kiss
I really like this. My teacher and I get into a sort of argument, my teacher always says without religion and society people would be evil, but I feel this a wonderful new tool in my arsenal. It really hits the point I'm trying to make, that most people are good and are oppressed into making poor and mean decisions.
That's a interesting and optimistic view towards people. I don't think people are good or bad. People do good things and they do bad things as well. People can be kind but they can also be dangerous. Humans are on the top of the food chain in many ecosystems after all and got there by act opportunistically. Modern society just sprang up much faster than humans can evolve so many people still have the instinct to do things that benefit themselves but do harm to others if they have a chance even if these people are not inherently bad.
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As a Catholic, I have to refute the assertions that you make about our faith. Just to put it out there, we people like Frollo referenced throughout scripture. The Pharisees, Sadducee, and Scribes are almost a 1 to 1 model for Frollo. Christ rebukes these people and by extension Frollo in Matthew 12:33-37 calling the a "Brood of vipers". These are all men who believed that they were righteous and following God. Christ tells them a few times how mistaken and arrogant they are.
His point was that powerfully people bend religion to their needs as if it was not there, not that religion is bad or caused this.
@@DimensionalWanderer Yep and barring religion the same people would find power elsewhere and corrupt it.
Agreed with this. It’s always humankind messing things up and distorting the image of God.
I disagree that religion is a victim to human nature. I simply think it an expression. Religion is a mirror, but a dangerous one because it can throw skepticisms by the wayside.
Amazingly astute analysis of one of my favorite movies. Thank you!
Dang your good. Very well done. really beginning to love your channel..
Nailed it
It was a pretty daring movie for Disney.
Damn hellfire still holds up!
As a religious person myself, I feel it worth noting that the "Christianity" displayed most often in this movie, by the churchgoers and Frollo primarily, are not only hypocrisy but in direct contradiction to what the Bible actually teaches. The Archdeacon is much closer to following the truth of what Christianity is about. That said, it is absolutely true that the movie wishes to protray religion as primarily a tool of the wicked and still impotent even when the person's heart follows it properly. However, I personally still find this movie to be my Number 1 favorite Disney movie.
Why, you ask, would a Christian person love a movie that vilified his religion? Well, besides the frankly stunning musical numbers and breathtaking scale of the cinematography, I find this movie to shine a light on all of the objections that non religious people would have and therefore it can be used as a very effective means of rebuttal and teaching others how NOT to behave towards your fellow man. Also, I think it's worth mentioning, that Frollo is essentially an image of Satan, who believed himself superior to all others, who twists the Word to his own evil ends, and who ultimately rejects all that God stands for, and is thereby thrown down into the flames of Hell for his transgressions. It's also worth noting that God primarily uses the hearts of his true followers to exact his will, rather than grand shows of power,, though he is certainly capable of such(Hence the gargoyle coming to life to damn Frollo.) Looking at it that way, perhaps the ministers of the Church of Notre Dame remained impotent, but God's will is done nonetheless. The lesson I learn and would teach others is that God knows the hearts of men, He knows who truly follows Him and who does not and He will not abide blasphemy such as Frollo's to go unpunished. Despite all his machinations, all his power, those who are full of the deadliest of sins, Pride, shall never triumph against those who love their neighbors as themselves and follow the true teachings of God.
American Ben: He speaks of them as "rodents, bugs, undesirables whom it would be moral to exterminate. Again, though a pious devotee of his faith, and having memorized the sins by heart, his god doth not restrain him from mass murder."
Sounds a bit like the Nazi justification of the Holocaust.
The older I become, the more I see old Disney animations broken down into existential issues with far-reaching consequences.
Earlier this week I ranted about churches and what moneygrubbing greedy... So on and so on... They are. Your video showed very well how I was confusing the church with those in charge of the church. I was asking for help from someone to change my lightbulbs and smoke detector batteries. I called every church in the area and not one would help. I evidently have to be a member of their church and/or be within 10 minutes drive. This isn't the fault of the people who go to that church, just those in charge of it.
I was able to find someone who did come by and change out the lightbulbs and batteries. Turns out, he wasn't a member of that church. He cuts their grass and was waiting for a check when I called. I tried to pay him for his time and he refused. He is a more Godly man than the leader of that church will ever be. As you said, the differences in how faith is interpreted by Frollo and Quasimoto.
Interesting story, I have three questions.
How far do you live from those churches you called?
Why did you need help changing lightbulbs and smoke detector batteries?
Why were you calling clergymen for a repair job?
@@snappycenter7863 - We live about 20 minutes outside the closest city limits, so I guess a max of 30 minutes from the furthest church. As I"m wheelchair-bound and my wife will kill me faster than a fall will if I get on a ladder and she will very much fall if she tries. As for calling clergy for a repair job. We're not rich and it was family who suggested calling churches. Does that answer your questions?
@@jaspr1999 Yes it does; I was concerned your story wasn't truthful and had an ulterior motive since I didn't know you, but I see that's not the case.
My heart goes out to you and I'll be praying you get the help that you need; would offer more, but I don't know who or where you are.
@@snappycenter7863 Thank you. I kind of figured that is why you were asking. Until your questions, I didn't think about my lack of information in my initial post, so that's all on me, man. My apologies.
Oh, I'm a Texan. Which also means that my wife spends a great deal of time explaining to me that ALL Texans are innately stubborn in asking for help.
@@jaspr1999 You're welcome. May God bless you and get you through this tough time.
Wow. You explained this perfectly..great work😁👍🏾
So this entire video essay is based on the premise that religion can't stop malevolent powerful men from acting on their nature; lets just skip the demise of the villian, cast down into hellfire by the symbol of religion, Notre Dame itself (gargoyle breaking under Frollo's feet before he could strike the finishing blow onto Quasi). Near literal dues ex machina.
My faith in the force is once again confirmed. The Pinocchio video is 2 years old, but i saw it for the first time like 4 days ago. Then the Atlantis video immediately after. Now this just happens to come out. I'm not saying nothin', but im just sayin'.
Wonderful work this was such an amazing video
In rule 34 he finally gets some lol
oh god
Noo😂😂😂
I appreciate the distinction between faith and religion in the video, but I think a point worth making is that the two are necessary to balance each other out, one is not necessarily superior to the other.
Faith without any sort of religious or organizational belief to it is essentially just a fealy good feeling that feels good, and therefore somewhat useless, or worse yet it is a form of idolatry, religion on the other hand without legitimate faith at its center, can simply be used as a means of control or manipulation, for one man to put himself above his fellows.
Claude Frolo was not a faithful or religious man, because despite his insistence otherwise rather than looking at his actions and the actions of those around him through the lens of religious teaching, he looked at everything including religious teaching through the lens of what he himself desired.
I have heard this somewhere that this is the movie when you grown up and realize the true life, the beauty will go with the prince, not the "ugly" hero or the main character. And as always kindness from the others do not mean they have feelings or meant to be with you. Take that my friend!
I did enjoy it, just like The Atlantis film
What if the live-action version is going to be rated pg-13? & I hate statues after believing there aliens angels of the doctor who!
If jafar from Aladdin was made less scary than in the remade than that's not likely.
Esmeralda rejected Claude Frollo because she didn't want to have sex with a creepy old man
Esmeralda Refuses To Marry Judge Frollo
This was a very good analysis of the movie. I really enjoyed this video.
This is such a carefully put-together and well-explained think piece. Will be sharing this
The musical is darker than the movie, because it has the book ending.
Frollo is one disney villain I would say is wholly and truly evil.
If you read the novel, it's even darker.
Love Hunchback of Notre Dame because of its darkness and the fact that the villain is probably the most realistic one Disney invented.
I wish Disney had more movies with similar themes like this.
It would be nice, but it's way to risky for them now to do a film like this (unfortunately).
Amazing analysis! ❤
thanks man...i loved this movie as a kid..still do...hope everyone is making healthy choices and staying well. this covid got me feeling foggy and weak for 7 days now BLEH
That time i still enjoyed watching Disney movies... good old days.
And again, not exactly like the book is it?
no Disney tale is like its source material. they took all the bad stories and give them happy endings. Even pop culture makes fun of it in almost every media that covers that topic.
I truly appreciated your explanation and theory
During hellfier is when frollo begins unravelling mentally as his desires consume his mind
This shows how some people view their “belief” when it comes to those who believe they are Christian.
People how say their "Christians" , doesn't mean better than everybody else . He iss what I like to a "fake Christian."
Very Good Insight and Depth!
Great video Ben. I wonder how that scene with Frollo searching for Esmerelda compares to the opening scene of Inglorious Bastards.
Also this is unrelated but are you thinking about doing a breakdown of the Expanse season 5 trailer at all? I watched it at 0.25 speed and there are some juicy bits that are revealed that aren't necessarily focused on by the trailer itself.
Why do people are perceived as evil are darker skinned people.
We know GF uploads are often quite tongue in cheek affairs (Why X is evil one week and the victim next week), with both opinions delivered with earnest and dodgy slight of hand facts from our hosts. It's what we demand, it's great fun.
But this was just an honest, no smirking break down of the tale. Really enjoyable stuff.
In a vacuum a positive messaging around Esmeralda not choosing the MC could be argued. The one movie where the MCs counterpart does not choose the MC. The only issue is we do not live in a vacuum and Quasimodo is disabled. Which means the messaging isn't that but that the one movie the MC is not romanced is the only one where they are actually disabled. Which in the US if you don't know a disabled person's support from the government is dropped as soon as they get married. Which means many cannot get married at all because of the loss of support. Which when you look at this movie through this light means that the messaging is that as a disabled person you will not get love, the best you can hope for is to be tolerated by society. It's not good messaging. The only way the former messaging can be applied is if the character is in fact able bodied, straight and white. Otherwise it's punching down.
As a deformed person this movie I connected to deaply
16:45 - [Spitting] - [Crowd Gasping]
Video idea: why the imperium of man is right
They aren’t, just less wrong when the alternative is Chaos and Tyranids
Its literally them or death that's the only reason. The Imperium would be hardline villains in any universe that's not 40k.
16:42 Judge Frollo:Choose Me Or The Fire ❤️🖤💜🔥
Frollo groping Esmeralda in the thumbnail
This video was so PROFOUND, im without words
Listen do people not get that Frollo is not a good religious person? No Roman Catholic is like "yeah go kill that baby" he's acting outside the faith beyond it's gaze, the archdeacon and Quasimodo are the truely religious people. It's not about faith it's about a lack of faith in him. He is not working by what the church says, or doing evil actions in the name of God he's "taking the name of the Lord thy God in Vain" a serious sin. The twist of trying to say that Frollo is somehow following religion while falling into the seven deadly sins is unbearable to watch, as a Catholic myself I can say all the sins he falls into, how he would be condemned, and his constant blasphemies. Someone can be "part" of something and not following it well, or be rejecting it and therefore not a good representation of the teachings. For instance he has no mercy that's completely unchristian.
Also the mother's death outside the church isn't even from the original story and if they saved her there'd be no story.
This just so misses the point of this story I can't even finish.
I think personally a big message here is the importance of actual faith and piety over being religious. Frolo is very religious. He believes in God, he believes in virtue and he believes in his own moral superiority (he says it himself he is PROUD of his virtue, pride has NEVER been a Christian virtue). Then Quasimodo. Quasimodo has actual faith and piety. He isn't obsessed with his moral superiority he's humble. Sure he's been taught that he's worthless but he's quiet, unassuming and simply kind because to him its natural. The absolutely brilliant dual songs of Heavens Light and Hell Fire put it perfectly. Quasi's all about her beauty and coming closer to God in appreciating it, where Frolo is about how she is tempting him and he is to weak to resist (he asks why God made the devil so much stronger then men but theologically the Devil's power to tempt isn't greater then an actually pious man's ability to resist he's shoving his responsbilities on another0. Yes the villain is a man of religion but the hero is a man of faith.