I am flummoxed for any reason why you don’t have more views. Great delivery, editing, high quality videos. You put a lot of hard work into these. Fantastic content.
Neatly done bar tape. Symmetric. Consistent overlap. Professional look. These also put my mind at ease.. so why not? Anything that makes the ride more enjoyable, 100% worthwhile.
Genius! I've never even noticed whether I'm going a different way on both sides or covering up logos. Another thing to worry about like having heads-in spokes transferring torque.
03:41 I'm going to have to disagree with you on the wrap. You're 100% right, the manufacturer is 100% wrong. Form should always follow function in my opinion. Great video on the bars. Thanks.
Glad we agree on that wrap. Interesting the GCN video on bar wrapping said pro mechanics wrap the other way (I think?). Review of the bars in progress.
@@alwaysanotheradventure Some wrap in reverse which to me is counter-intuitive as one is constantly putting pressure against the wrap in that manner. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for personal preference and all, but I think there's a reason bars are wrapped with the grip going with the seam instead of against it for eons.
Looking at my 44cm wide Kitchen sink bars next to me while watching.... so thanks for the wrapping tip! I'll definitely check out your review video when it comes out too... Waiting delivery of a replacement left hand shifter first.
Thanks for this, I'm toying with getting these bars for next years' adventures. Learning from the mistakes of others is a seriously neglected human trait!
Hi Mike - oh I make plenty of them! I'm currently riding a set without that front loop and they feel great. I also dispenesed with the cruise control bar grips and that suits my hands, but I know others who wouldn't do without them for anything!
What do you think of the bottom grips now they have been on for a while? I was thinking of just adding ergo grips. They would perform the same function.
I think the Ergon grips I looked at online look pretty similar (not sure if they’re the ones you mean). They just give a different hand position, and that’s useful on a longer rider. I often found myself on the drops just to change my back position rather than specifically getting lower. So if some other grips are comfortable and do the same job (and fit!) then great.
Looking forward to see how these bars are with bikepacking bags and how comfy the grips are. I usually double wrap my drop bars but the grips + bar tape might be enough to dampen any vibrations
Personally, I went back to these Kitchen Sink with the loop and raffled the Top Shelf for charity. I just preferred the position the KS gave me on my bike and that's very personal. It's an extremely hard call, especially now Redshift have a neat little bag for the Top Shelf as well at the one for the KS. Nice to have the option though. If you're still in doubt, reach out to their customer service team - they're very good to deal with and can probably help you choose better than me Kevin.
I am sold on the grips, but undecided on the handlebars. Have been using anatomical grips on my MTB's for a long time now and wouldn't use any that are not flared to provide a comfortable supporting ledge - best I ever found where SQLabs off Bike24 in Germany but...... well sadly I discovered that constant use of hand sanitiser wrecked them and, because of brexit, Bike24 will no longer ship them so they can't be replaced and have had to fall back onto a old set of Ergons :.(. As a Raynauds sufferer I know ergonomical shapes make sense, because it makes such a massive improvement to my experience riding. The only question I have is whether the grips can be used on other brands of handlebar, but I suppose I will find that out once I bite the bullet - the material used looks pretty flexible so I see no reason why they couldn't be used on my Ritchey dropbars on my gravel bike. Great video by the way and very nicely presented - subbed in moments. Was this filmed in Scotland and if so whereabouts?
I feel daft now Stephen because I didn't weigh them! Looking at the website (and Redshift proved accurate on their other weights) the bars are 472g. More here: redshiftsports.com/products/kitchen-sink-handlebar
This could be personal preference but if I’m on the tops, my hands tend to be closer together than the ergonomic grips would suggest. It’s also kind of odd that Redshift class this as a gravel bar if indeed the loop is meant to be a substitute for TT bars. Does anyone ride gravel in a TT position? It may however be a viable option for ultra endurance?
I agree Del they're not exactly where I'd want to put my hands either - I like the hockey stick ones. I think these are more of a bikepacking / adventure bar than just gravel, and I'm noticing the drops are not very 'dropped' and, in effect, give another riding position. So I can see merit in the front loop for an occasional hand position during the times you're on road, either riding to or from a gravel section, or just on a longer trip. But as I say, this was just the first ride so no clear picture yet.
I bought a set for bikepacking so as to have a more aero position available. Not that I'd worry the front of any long distance race - but bikepacking round the Netherlands last summer taught me that an aero position can make a big difference in all day headwinds (if you can hold the position - I hope these bars will help that).
I ride all surfaces on my gravel bike so a more aero position for the tarmac and smooth, flat gravel sections would be nice. I’m not sure this bar would be a substitute for proper TT bars with arm rests though, it looks a bit short for that.
Glad you found us Gary! My glasses are from Sunwise and the model is Austin. I made a video about them here: ruclips.net/video/TcN3S67ijJE/видео.html They're optician only. BUT I had an eye test today because I've been speaking to an online optician, who is also a damn keen cyclist. He thinks he has come up with a way of making accurate varifocals online and wants me to test it. So if you can wait a little, I might have more to report soon...
@@vernfrier1771 Yes I did make the video Vern, but it was two years ago. I've made quite a few since then and I don't remember this one very well. I think you mean the shot looking up at my face from the perspective of the front wheel, in which case it's as I said - a 360 camera on a pole clamped to the bike. If you mean a different shot, let me know the time code and I'll look at it and reply.
@@alwaysanotheradventure You got it right. I just was amazed at the low view from the front wheel. I have a camera for my bikes but I have handlebar with forward mount view only. Thanks much
Do the mean the ones looking back at me? It's an Insta360 camera clamped on a small pole sticking in front of the handlebar. The camera's built-in AI removes the pole. There's more in this video ruclips.net/video/gB1jlSvPWio/видео.html It does produce a shot that's a bit too wide really.
I have exactly this bar (I'll fit it when a replacement shifter arrives) but I've tried my TopPeak front loader with it and it is ideal - the straps to hold it are exactly the width of the flat part of the bar inside the additional loop... I guess though it will depend on your bag's strap system - for me with the TopPeak frontloader its much better than the Specialized hover bar its replacing.
Maybe it's the effect of the camera angle or lens, but your hand position on those hoods (e.g., at 6:15) looks really awkward! Having switched to more "alt" bars (which of course covers a multitude of types), I am much more cognisant of elbow, wrist and hand position, and therefore comfort. I no longer use drop bars due to a badly broken elbow, but always wonder just how comfortable flared drop bars are. Some of them look really uncomfortable to me. Sorry, not really the topic of the video, but your video angle at the end prompted the question!
Hi David - I suspect the ultra-wide angle lens doesn't help. I struggled with the flared bars that came with my Camino - they're the ones I use clamped to the workstand in this to demo the wrapping. Now they really did kink my wrists inward but the issue for me was the pressure that put on my thumb when braking and shifting. It's kinda hard to explain but I suspect you get it. It's the same as why I preferred cranked paddles when sea kayaking. There's something about these bars which, although the bottom of the curve seems flared, the top is not AS flared as others, so the shifters actually sit not that far from vertical. I really haven't ridden these enough to be sure of how I feel, but this is something I'll look into in detail when my thoughts are clearer.
I am flummoxed for any reason why you don’t have more views. Great delivery, editing, high quality videos. You put a lot of hard work into these. Fantastic content.
I am equally flummoxed! By the way, what a fantastic word... 'flummoxed'. Should be used more often.
Not entirely sure if this is a true flummoxing situation. 1300 views in 24 hours is pretty good, no?
@@shawnriffhard There's always interest in Redshift products and that helps.😁
Neatly done bar tape. Symmetric. Consistent overlap. Professional look. These also put my mind at ease.. so why not? Anything that makes the ride more enjoyable, 100% worthwhile.
Genius! I've never even noticed whether I'm going a different way on both sides or covering up logos. Another thing to worry about like having heads-in spokes transferring torque.
03:41 I'm going to have to disagree with you on the wrap. You're 100% right, the manufacturer is 100% wrong. Form should always follow function in my opinion. Great video on the bars. Thanks.
Glad we agree on that wrap. Interesting the GCN video on bar wrapping said pro mechanics wrap the other way (I think?). Review of the bars in progress.
@@alwaysanotheradventure Some wrap in reverse which to me is counter-intuitive as one is constantly putting pressure against the wrap in that manner.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for personal preference and all, but I think there's a reason bars are wrapped with the grip going with the seam instead of against it for eons.
Looking at my 44cm wide Kitchen sink bars next to me while watching.... so thanks for the wrapping tip! I'll definitely check out your review video when it comes out too... Waiting delivery of a replacement left hand shifter first.
Thanks for this, I'm toying with getting these bars for next years' adventures. Learning from the mistakes of others is a seriously neglected human trait!
Hi Mike - oh I make plenty of them! I'm currently riding a set without that front loop and they feel great. I also dispenesed with the cruise control bar grips and that suits my hands, but I know others who wouldn't do without them for anything!
Fantastic tip regarding the tape logo, thank you!
looks like great bars... im interested in your conclution, so ill keep following this.
You can change the orientation of the tape itself so that the logo shows up...
Thanks - that’s the point I’m making.
i bought the same ti frameset and the Farr handlebar and are very comfortable..i hope it will the bike too..
I hope it works well for you Sasha
I've never had to wrap handle bars, but have my first road bike coming. We'll see how it goes!
Search for the Park Tool wrapping guide it's a master class.
@@Mcg-80 Thank you Steven, I will.
Beautiful and well done!
What do you think of the bottom grips now they have been on for a while? I was thinking of just adding ergo grips. They would perform the same function.
I think the Ergon grips I looked at online look pretty similar (not sure if they’re the ones you mean). They just give a different hand position, and that’s useful on a longer rider. I often found myself on the drops just to change my back position rather than specifically getting lower. So if some other grips are comfortable and do the same job (and fit!) then great.
Looking forward to see how these bars are with bikepacking bags and how comfy the grips are. I usually double wrap my drop bars but the grips + bar tape might be enough to dampen any vibrations
I've previously used extra thick tape plus gel, so I'm cautious too.
Have you reviewed the bar after some use? I cannot decide between the kitchen sink bar and the 50mm top shelf. Ugh, decisions.
Personally, I went back to these Kitchen Sink with the loop and raffled the Top Shelf for charity. I just preferred the position the KS gave me on my bike and that's very personal. It's an extremely hard call, especially now Redshift have a neat little bag for the Top Shelf as well at the one for the KS. Nice to have the option though. If you're still in doubt, reach out to their customer service team - they're very good to deal with and can probably help you choose better than me Kevin.
I am sold on the grips, but undecided on the handlebars. Have been using anatomical grips on my MTB's for a long time now and wouldn't use any that are not flared to provide a comfortable supporting ledge - best I ever found where SQLabs off Bike24 in Germany but...... well sadly I discovered that constant use of hand sanitiser wrecked them and, because of brexit, Bike24 will no longer ship them so they can't be replaced and have had to fall back onto a old set of Ergons :.(.
As a Raynauds sufferer I know ergonomical shapes make sense, because it makes such a massive improvement to my experience riding. The only question I have is whether the grips can be used on other brands of handlebar, but I suppose I will find that out once I bite the bullet - the material used looks pretty flexible so I see no reason why they couldn't be used on my Ritchey dropbars on my gravel bike.
Great video by the way and very nicely presented - subbed in moments. Was this filmed in Scotland and if so whereabouts?
I’m using the setup on a longer ride now. I’m trying not to make any assumptions, but I think all the add-onswould work with any bike.
They look heavy, what's the weight?, great tip on unrolling the tape to the other end to get the astetic right👍🚴♀️🏴
I feel daft now Stephen because I didn't weigh them! Looking at the website (and Redshift proved accurate on their other weights) the bars are 472g. More here: redshiftsports.com/products/kitchen-sink-handlebar
@@alwaysanotheradventure thanks Simon
Looks good for now very interesting bars
Interesting to see how you get on with attaching handlebar bags to them if you do decide to keep them - I'll await a fuller review ;-)
Me too Al. I'm sure it'll take a few goes to get it 'right'
This could be personal preference but if I’m on the tops, my hands tend to be closer together than the ergonomic grips would suggest. It’s also kind of odd that Redshift class this as a gravel bar if indeed the loop is meant to be a substitute for TT bars. Does anyone ride gravel in a TT position? It may however be a viable option for ultra endurance?
I agree Del they're not exactly where I'd want to put my hands either - I like the hockey stick ones. I think these are more of a bikepacking / adventure bar than just gravel, and I'm noticing the drops are not very 'dropped' and, in effect, give another riding position. So I can see merit in the front loop for an occasional hand position during the times you're on road, either riding to or from a gravel section, or just on a longer trip. But as I say, this was just the first ride so no clear picture yet.
I bought a set for bikepacking so as to have a more aero position available. Not that I'd worry the front of any long distance race - but bikepacking round the Netherlands last summer taught me that an aero position can make a big difference in all day headwinds (if you can hold the position - I hope these bars will help that).
I ride all surfaces on my gravel bike so a more aero position for the tarmac and smooth, flat gravel sections would be nice.
I’m not sure this bar would be a substitute for proper TT bars with arm rests though, it looks a bit short for that.
just came across your channel. great stuff 👍. Simon do you use prescription inserts on cycling glasses ?? who does them for you ?
Glad you found us Gary! My glasses are from Sunwise and the model is Austin. I made a video about them here: ruclips.net/video/TcN3S67ijJE/видео.html They're optician only.
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I had an eye test today because I've been speaking to an online optician, who is also a damn keen cyclist. He thinks he has come up with a way of making accurate varifocals online and wants me to test it. So if you can wait a little, I might have more to report soon...
@@alwaysanotheradventure yeh Simon im vaifocals also, but on previous enquiries was told they can't be done on curved lenses. will await results.
How did you mount the video camera for the view from the front wheel?
I’m pretty sure it was a 360 camera on a pole. Might have been hand held or clamped to part of the bike.
@@alwaysanotheradventure You're pretty sure?? How can you not know? Aren't you the one that did the filming?
@@vernfrier1771 Yes I did make the video Vern, but it was two years ago. I've made quite a few since then and I don't remember this one very well. I think you mean the shot looking up at my face from the perspective of the front wheel, in which case it's as I said - a 360 camera on a pole clamped to the bike. If you mean a different shot, let me know the time code and I'll look at it and reply.
@@alwaysanotheradventure You got it right. I just was amazed at the low view from the front wheel. I have a camera for my bikes but I have handlebar with forward mount view only. Thanks much
Tech question please Simon: how are you mounting your camera to get those rear facing shots? Thanks.
Do the mean the ones looking back at me? It's an Insta360 camera clamped on a small pole sticking in front of the handlebar. The camera's built-in AI removes the pole. There's more in this video ruclips.net/video/gB1jlSvPWio/видео.html It does produce a shot that's a bit too wide really.
@@alwaysanotheradventure Yes, those shots. I have watched your “how I do it” videos, will watch again. Clever stuff is AI.
@@uk-expat it's the camera at 03:00 in the video I linked.
@@alwaysanotheradventure thanks Simon.
Curious, re: handlebar bag, how does it fit under the extension?
That's something I have to work out...
I have exactly this bar (I'll fit it when a replacement shifter arrives) but I've tried my TopPeak front loader with it and it is ideal - the straps to hold it are exactly the width of the flat part of the bar inside the additional loop... I guess though it will depend on your bag's strap system - for me with the TopPeak frontloader its much better than the Specialized hover bar its replacing.
I think I’d wrap the bars anywhere my hands were going to go.
yeah, but will I use those extensions, or will they be better for bags & things like lights? I'll have to see.
@@alwaysanotheradventure Interesting ideas. Those bars will require some use and experimentation to see what works.
Oh no! The logo isn't showing! Whatever shall we do!?
🤔
the better answer is to forget the logo tape and use another tape
Maybe Philip, but it does look good tape and it's extra long which helps if you want to continue the wrap past the weld up the front loop...
Maybe it's the effect of the camera angle or lens, but your hand position on those hoods (e.g., at 6:15) looks really awkward! Having switched to more "alt" bars (which of course covers a multitude of types), I am much more cognisant of elbow, wrist and hand position, and therefore comfort. I no longer use drop bars due to a badly broken elbow, but always wonder just how comfortable flared drop bars are. Some of them look really uncomfortable to me.
Sorry, not really the topic of the video, but your video angle at the end prompted the question!
Hi David - I suspect the ultra-wide angle lens doesn't help. I struggled with the flared bars that came with my Camino - they're the ones I use clamped to the workstand in this to demo the wrapping. Now they really did kink my wrists inward but the issue for me was the pressure that put on my thumb when braking and shifting. It's kinda hard to explain but I suspect you get it. It's the same as why I preferred cranked paddles when sea kayaking.
There's something about these bars which, although the bottom of the curve seems flared, the top is not AS flared as others, so the shifters actually sit not that far from vertical.
I really haven't ridden these enough to be sure of how I feel, but this is something I'll look into in detail when my thoughts are clearer.
Guys, do you think he made a mistake?
Explain please?