What? A game that doesn't sugarcoat it's story? That's why I love it as fondly as I do. That Ramza isn't the hero everyone knows and remembers, he was always in hiding after the Ziekden incident, having to deceive under a false name. Yet behind the front-lines he was the one to lend a greater hand in ending the war, but he wasn't purified by the government and he didn't ask to, he just did what he and his father would have done, in Justice's name. That's the story I love.
The true confession of Delita's love for Ovelia is here, he has no reason to tell that to Ramza, and no reason to lie to him about his feelings. Ramza is the only person Delita can be sincere with.
I disagree. In the original you actually felt the commoners fear of the nobles and the horror of death in battle (those screams). The new one was very flowery and downplayed that part of the story. Still... It is nice to have the cutscenes.
I don't care how loud the music is, it's great. And I swear to god... when the music picks up at 2:08 and onwards. It just.. fits so well with the dialouge... ESPECIALLY at 2:47-2:58... It gets me all the time~~. That one phrase really made me think about how sad it is that Delita and Ramza's friendship has dwindled. ;m;
This scene happened in Ch.4, which Ramza already changed his outfit to that of a greenish/teal & red colour. I wonder why in this scene he is drawn wearing his Ch.2 & Ch.3 outfit...
Poor Delita. He really does care for Ovelia after all.... and to think that she thought that he was using her. (Maybe he *was* using her, but I'm sure he had feelings for her too) The ending was tragic =( I feel so sorry for Delita now.
god what did they use to animate? it's almost like manga style yet 3d models... amazing, even the art style it's almost otherworldy to me. someone please let me know.
I just found out that Delitas voice actor Robin Atkin Downes, voices Luxord in kh2. Two of my favorite vg characters ever are voiced by the same character.
The background piano music, although beautiful, is much too loud. It bears over the dialogue between Ramza and Delita in some parts, in which it is difficult to hear them. However, this is a great scene. I just wished that they made more cut scenes... I love this archaic dialogue... I wish we still spoke like that today, heh.
I wonder why Ramza, in all of the post chapter 1 cutscenes, appears only in his Chapter 2/3 outfit? This particular church cutscene for example, took place in Chapter 4, yet we see Ramza in his older outfit. Does anybody know the reason? I am aware that he appears in his later outfit during Chapter 4 gameplay.
The words and the way they pieced them. Fitting all too well to not deserve appraisal. That in itself it sad. That people cannot see the beauty in proper speech. People would rather hear things plain. To hear this and complain shows the waning intelligence and appreciation of what can be seen an art. No further say is needed. Just appreciate what they aimed for and let them hit the mark. Otherwise we leave their hearts empty....These aren't words of a scholar only an appreciant.
It's very well translated, though they tried a tad too hard for the voices. Still though, brilliant dialouge. To me, this scene is the best thing you could ever find for this game.
A common problem in adding voice to a mute scene. The original japanese release did not include a voicetrack. The music intensified for the moment, and the soundtrack wasn't appropriated.
I played the old version as a teen back in the 90s and the dialog was pretty modern. I haven't played the new version yet but I heard the dialog is really different. Not everyone will understand the old European style of speech the characters are using.
Flawless scene... In middle of Ramza's praying, his old friend Delita is consumed by grudge, get into church's door and walks into his "stone in the shoe" friend. hahahahahahahaha How beautiful and dramactic that scene is. Because they are divided by it's faith and love under the same ceiling's church, and not by they political ideologies questions, before it was. Good intentions were scorn for selfish reputation Mixing with brave friendships Even with accomplishes values At the mystic era of all times.
I somehow doubt their meeting was accident. Zalmour, a member of the church, clearly knew where Ramza was. It's likely Delita intercepted the news and simply came first, as he has no forces to gather before departing. I also really like how, even though Delita knows Zalmour is outside and that he risks everything by revealing his presence, even though it would be a simple matter for one of the church warriors to slip away, Delita walked into the light and chose to fight at Ramza's side. One last time. And the shot where they are framed standing back to back, with Ramza adorned in dark, spiked armour, and Delita wearing gleaming castle-forged gold. Though the world sees Ramza as a treacherous heretic and murderer, and Delita as a paragon of virtue, a true and devout knight favoured by the Church, Ramza is the one with the massive moral high ground. Delita has done dastardly, treacherous things. And the two of them, so different in status of birth and station, and now with their roles reversed, are still friends and erstwhile allies.
bros..i need help when i reached this part of the game mine hangs up when the vid reaches the part where delita says "you are no enemy of mine" er somthing like that the game hangs up...please help me...
1:52 count orlandeau of the order of southern sky. zalbaag of the northern, and ofcourse lord dycedarg oh my! those guys are beasts! but the war of the lions are composed of 4 lions not 2. goltana the black lion larg the white..... and ofcourse... delita the red lion and ramza the blue
Delita let us fight this together! Man u can tell he's hesitating but I so wish he would have let go of his grudge and join Ramza again maybe thing would have ended up better for him than what happens in the secret ending. Did u get your end in all of this Ramza? I... I got this
4:07: I wonder if there is a deeper meaning to this quote, or if it is supposed to show a glimpse of some aspect of Delita's character that we aren't supposed to see? **Spoiler below** At the end of the game, he knew that letting her live could result in his death, yet he chose to kill her, so that he could live, instead of saving her life by allowing himself to die.
In this part of the PS1 version. Ramza is wearing his blue armor. So, why is he still in his purple armor in this scene when he's supposed to be wearing his blue armor?
Because Delita "works" for the church and Ramza don't. Then the church made Delita "purified or Holy" a man who surved "God/the church". Ramza became a Heretic someone wanted/hunted by the church.
I agree, I would love Pixar or another company to make a CG movie liek this. If Squaresoft had tried to make a Final Fantasy movie like this instead of the way they did Spirits Within, then they would not of failed in the box office.
@Metroid22540 And that is why Matsuno and this game are so fucking awesome. It makes you think about things like how delita's methods weren't much different from the church in terms of using everybody for there own ends. Have you tried Tactics ogre let us cling together its just like this game (of course its made by the same team) and it has you make morally ambiguous choices throughout the game.
David de Bergerac that’s a great question. It always happens when delita is talking. In my opinion those lines although ambiguous always relates to his grudge since the ziekden incident. Always about fulfilling his revenge against the stabilishment but sounding kinda noble
Renato Pinheiro That’s actually a really good comparison between the quotes that I had never realized. It also makes for really dramatic lines, and I wish more of the cutscenes simply ended at them.
I think its all a matter of preference. I'd have no problem understanding the new dialogue but some ppl might so they prefer the modernized one of the original. I still like both very much :)
@Metroid22540 Delita was using next to everyone around him to fufill his own ambitions. Yet, Ramza Beoulve, was doing so much behind the front lines of the war, just doing what he knew was right.
Nonono, he is not lying here, the tragedy is that Ovelia grew to despise Delita so much she ended up trying to kill him, and he was forced to kill her in self defense. He truly loved Ovelia, but to become king he turned into a monster that she was terrorized by, in the end, Delita failed Ovelia like he failed Tietra.
It's not Delita's fault Ovelia falsely believed him a power hungry monster. He wasn't much different from Ramza, except the people he killed didn't turn into demons.
@@KopperNeoman Ramza didn't kill people for power, Delita did. Ramza only sought to do as was right and protect his loved ones, and while Delita wished the same he was willing to go far further in his quest to do so. Delita is forced to kill his wife and has no one in the end, while Ramza lives on and spends the rest of his life adventuring alongside what remains of his loved ones. While both are noble Delita's path left him with nothing.
@ZzFOXzZ I believe it was the nature of their intentions, What that boils down to is perception, be it your own or from a neutral standpoint. If you're to look at it from the "Neutral Standpoint" Almost every faction was wronging Ivalice in their own method; Larg and Goltanna both wanted the throne. Funebris wanted the auracite to guise under the Zodiac Brave story to control the people. The Templar Knights were using Marcel to gather the Auracite to resurrect Ultima.
God form? You mean Velius (what is he, Belias now? Meh... whatever.) No Delita never joins you. I don't want to spoil the story so I'll say no more but no, you never get to use Holy Knight Delita (Agrias is better anyway )
U noe FFTwarofthelions could have been made dynasty warriors/kingdom hearts combat style if u think hard enough, just need more troops.But, then again, it wont be called Tactics that way lol
@cloudani Screw that, they deserve better, like a sequel!! "i know Delita Wouldn't be in a sequel" but still a sequel, OR A MOVIE a movie like advent children but with the story of the lion wars plus some extrra content like what happened after or some other stuff that happened during the whole plot, screw dissidia these characters are WAY stronger than any other FF main character, and yes i love final fantasy but just compare Ramza to Zidane, Squall or Cloud and other characters, uncomparable.
whats funny is that in this point in the story, if played right, the main character can be like level 67, hahahaha try ur best Delita, who i see as a bastard pretty much after chapter 2
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A final fantasy game that actually treated you like an adult.
FF4 kinda also did that
little N At points but then you’d have the bikini dancing girls and the “don’t ask me, I’m just a girl teeheehee!” at Troia. Good but inconsistent.
Until this day I've never played a game with such great storyline... The best game of all times for me..
What? A game that doesn't sugarcoat it's story? That's why I love it as fondly as I do. That Ramza isn't the hero everyone knows and remembers, he was always in hiding after the Ziekden incident, having to deceive under a false name. Yet behind the front-lines he was the one to lend a greater hand in ending the war, but he wasn't purified by the government and he didn't ask to, he just did what he and his father would have done, in Justice's name.
That's the story I love.
The true confession of Delita's love for Ovelia is here, he has no reason to tell that to Ramza, and no reason to lie to him about his feelings.
Ramza is the only person Delita can be sincere with.
You know, this would be one of the best scenes in all of gaming IF THE MUSIC WASN'T SO DAMN LOUD.
The Disciple of Benedict XVI.⚜
Apostle Zalmour.⚜
Though it's odd that Ramza is wearing the wrong armor for this scene. As it's played in chapter 4.
Yes, it always bothered me
this is the age before megaphones, Confessor Zelmour has a mega loud voice to boom through a stone wall like that
Priest Joseph XIII.⚜
Lesalia's Church.♟
4:05 "To save her life, I would gladly give my own." The irony in that statement is beyond noteworthy. Ouch!
The dialogue is an enormous improvement over the original. WOTL with slowdown patch is the definitive version of the game.
I disagree. In the original you actually felt the commoners fear of the nobles and the horror of death in battle (those screams). The new one was very flowery and downplayed that part of the story. Still... It is nice to have the cutscenes.
@Will Lauzon
How did wotl downplay that part of the story? It's been ages since I played
you are the best uploader in youtube!!!!
Thank you so much!!!!
I don't care how loud the music is, it's great. And I swear to god... when the music picks up at 2:08 and onwards. It just.. fits so well with the dialouge... ESPECIALLY at 2:47-2:58... It gets me all the time~~. That one phrase really made me think about how sad it is that Delita and Ramza's friendship has dwindled. ;m;
This scene happened in Ch.4, which Ramza already changed his outfit to that of a greenish/teal & red colour. I wonder why in this scene he is drawn wearing his Ch.2 & Ch.3 outfit...
All cutscenes post chapter 1 gives him the chapter 2 outfit. I have no idea why.
I can pronounce Dycedarg's name now thanks to this cut scene.
Relatives have Come.♎📜
The damn song is called under the stars piano version it's izludes theme
Poor Delita. He really does care for Ovelia after all.... and to think that she thought that he was using her. (Maybe he *was* using her, but I'm sure he had feelings for her too)
The ending was tragic =(
I feel so sorry for Delita now.
These scenes make me want to beat this game again :P
god what did they use to animate? it's almost like manga style yet 3d models... amazing, even the art style it's almost otherworldy to me. someone please let me know.
Sadly so few cut scenes. I wish they could made an animated chapter of this game.
I just found out that Delitas voice actor Robin Atkin Downes, voices Luxord in kh2. Two of my favorite vg characters ever are voiced by the same character.
they should make a show out of this. Doesn't even need to be live action, this animation style is perfect. I would easilly watch it all in one sit
i agree man ramza fights for justice and truth like his father said 'never stray from the true path' he never did stray from the true path
The background piano music, although beautiful, is much too loud. It bears over the dialogue between Ramza and Delita in some parts, in which it is difficult to hear them. However, this is a great scene. I just wished that they made more cut scenes... I love this archaic dialogue... I wish we still spoke like that today, heh.
@winxclublover it's a piano version of the intro theme.
this is so epic, a movie will not be bad
I wonder why Ramza, in all of the post chapter 1 cutscenes, appears only in his Chapter 2/3 outfit?
This particular church cutscene for example, took place in Chapter 4, yet we see Ramza in his older outfit. Does anybody know the reason? I am aware that he appears in his later outfit during Chapter 4 gameplay.
Whoa! That was just so amazing... beautiful and moving... yet it was very sad.
Bestow.⚜️
I kinda wish these scenes were numbered. I don't have the titles of them memorized from FFT to be able to watch them in order.
Omg Phil Lamarr (Vamp) did Ramza's voice!?!?!!?! and Robin Atkin Downes Delita!? *faints*
Shirahadori's Flames; the Candle. 🕯️🇲🇾🏆🔔🏆
@PhlashblazerReloaded Im not an artist but i think the technique was "cell shading".
Personally I wish the scene 'Delita's Betrayal was like this.
The words and the way they pieced them. Fitting all too well to not deserve appraisal.
That in itself it sad. That people cannot see the beauty in proper speech. People would rather hear things plain. To hear this and complain shows the waning intelligence and appreciation of what can be seen an art. No further say is needed.
Just appreciate what they aimed for and let them hit the mark. Otherwise we leave their hearts empty....These aren't words of a scholar only an appreciant.
It's very well translated, though they tried a tad too hard for the voices. Still though, brilliant dialouge. To me, this scene is the best thing you could ever find for this game.
A common problem in adding voice to a mute scene. The original japanese release did not include a voicetrack. The music intensified for the moment, and the soundtrack wasn't appropriated.
I played the old version as a teen back in the 90s and the dialog was pretty modern. I haven't played the new version yet but I heard the dialog is really different. Not everyone will understand the old European style of speech the characters are using.
Flawless scene... In middle of Ramza's praying, his old friend Delita is consumed by grudge, get into church's door and walks into his "stone in the shoe" friend. hahahahahahahaha
How beautiful and dramactic that scene is. Because they are divided by it's faith and love under the same ceiling's church, and not by they political ideologies questions, before it was.
Good intentions were scorn for selfish reputation
Mixing with brave friendships
Even with accomplishes values
At the mystic era of all times.
I somehow doubt their meeting was accident. Zalmour, a member of the church, clearly knew where Ramza was. It's likely Delita intercepted the news and simply came first, as he has no forces to gather before departing.
I also really like how, even though Delita knows Zalmour is outside and that he risks everything by revealing his presence, even though it would be a simple matter for one of the church warriors to slip away, Delita walked into the light and chose to fight at Ramza's side. One last time.
And the shot where they are framed standing back to back, with Ramza adorned in dark, spiked armour, and Delita wearing gleaming castle-forged gold. Though the world sees Ramza as a treacherous heretic and murderer, and Delita as a paragon of virtue, a true and devout knight favoured by the Church, Ramza is the one with the massive moral high ground. Delita has done dastardly, treacherous things. And the two of them, so different in status of birth and station, and now with their roles reversed, are still friends and erstwhile allies.
bros..i need help when i reached this part of the game mine hangs up when the vid reaches the part where delita says "you are no enemy of mine" er somthing like that the game hangs up...please help me...
Lesalia's Captain's Archeress=Temper.📚
1:52 count orlandeau of the order of southern sky. zalbaag of the northern, and ofcourse lord dycedarg
oh my! those guys are beasts!
but the war of the lions are composed of 4 lions not 2.
goltana the black lion
larg the white.....
and ofcourse...
delita the red lion
and
ramza the blue
i really want the notes for the theme playing in the background
Delita let us fight this together!
Man u can tell he's hesitating but I so wish he would have let go of his grudge and join Ramza again maybe thing would have ended up better for him than what happens in the secret ending.
Did u get your end in all of this Ramza? I... I got this
In my latest playthrough, Delita went first on this battle and killed Zalmour instantly with Northswains Strike. That's how Delita rolls.
Where is Ramza's Chapter 4 outfit?
I don't understand why it was left out.
@JudgeMagisterDelita The problem with it is that it has Delita slamming the altar and doors closing.
Arg! As much as i love the new cutscenes, they have the music too loud in some of that.
Totally agree the game runs amazing with that patch! Love the new dialogue and extras!
Rob e
Well said, Michael Alvarez, well said.
Sorry Delita, you can't take down Thunder God Cid. *sigh*
@MultiRationale I ain't continuing this, end of argument, there's no point, let's get back to life thank you very much.
4:07: I wonder if there is a deeper meaning to this quote, or if it is supposed to show a glimpse of some aspect of Delita's character that we aren't supposed to see?
**Spoiler below**
At the end of the game, he knew that letting her live could result in his death, yet he chose to kill her, so that he could live, instead of saving her life by allowing himself to die.
In this part of the PS1 version. Ramza is wearing his blue armor. So, why is he still in his purple armor in this scene when he's supposed to be wearing his blue armor?
O; My; Ivalicivian's Kingdom(s); Palace(s). Delita Heiral. 🏰🇲🇾🏰🌟🙋🌟📖📜📖🔥🇨🇳🔥🕊️
why did delita turn into a holy knight and ramza did not?
Because Delita "works" for the church and Ramza don't. Then the church made Delita "purified or Holy" a man who surved "God/the church". Ramza became a Heretic someone wanted/hunted by the church.
Actually you do in the new PSP version. He's just like Agrias, but with all the abilities automatically obtained and better strength and speed.
Name of the song, please.... please.... pleasee.....
Jajang Jangkrik under the stars
I agree, I would love Pixar or another company to make a CG movie liek this. If Squaresoft had tried to make a Final Fantasy movie like this instead of the way they did Spirits Within, then they would not of failed in the box office.
Brilliant cutscene.
lol megaphones existed there?
@Metroid22540 And that is why Matsuno and this game are so fucking awesome. It makes you think about things like how delita's methods weren't much different from the church in terms of using everybody for there own ends. Have you tried Tactics ogre let us cling together its just like this game (of course its made by the same team) and it has you make morally ambiguous choices throughout the game.
Roger Koay Chan Khoon ♎
郭展群♎
Wants to Go Priest's Conference.🤲
What song is played at this part?
Nameth; O; Song: O; Blood!🎶
Lesalia's Fire; is; Water.
Lesalia's Fire; in My Both; Hand(ed).
@goruu Under the stars
I love this game! i have like, 10 profiles. all either dragoon or dark knights, lol. Anyway, what's the theme that plays during this vid?
My only thing, is Delita turns on Ramza for no reason, he did nothing but support his best friend.
Why does it do that "cut to black" thing in every cutscene?
David de Bergerac that’s a great question. It always happens when delita is talking. In my opinion those lines although ambiguous always relates to his grudge since the ziekden incident. Always about fulfilling his revenge against the stabilishment but sounding kinda noble
Renato Pinheiro
That’s actually a really good comparison between the quotes that I had never realized. It also makes for really dramatic lines, and I wish more of the cutscenes simply ended at them.
Because Delita loves suspense 😅
In Final Fantasy Tactics had no villains, but people wanting to fulfill their ideals and ambitions. Was that bad? blame yourself or god.
I think its all a matter of preference. I'd have no problem understanding the new dialogue but some ppl might so they prefer the modernized one of the original. I still like both very much :)
@Metroid22540 Delita was using next to everyone around him to fufill his own ambitions.
Yet, Ramza Beoulve, was doing so much behind the front lines of the war, just doing what he knew was right.
@YuffieDon I liked his blue one the best through.
@JudgeMagisterDelita O_o whoa really??? I still haven't finished this game on the psp (I'm close enough though) does that appears in the credits?
...Ramza Vs Delita: Discuss.
Ramza.
"To save her life, I would gladly give my own" - HAHAHHAHAHA lie.
Nonono, he is not lying here, the tragedy is that Ovelia grew to despise Delita so much she ended up trying to kill him, and he was forced to kill her in self defense. He truly loved Ovelia, but to become king he turned into a monster that she was terrorized by, in the end, Delita failed Ovelia like he failed Tietra.
It's not Delita's fault Ovelia falsely believed him a power hungry monster. He wasn't much different from Ramza, except the people he killed didn't turn into demons.
@@mauricesteel4995 All true, except neither Ovelia nor Delita died from those stabbing wounds.
@@KopperNeoman Ramza didn't kill people for power, Delita did. Ramza only sought to do as was right and protect his loved ones, and while Delita wished the same he was willing to go far further in his quest to do so. Delita is forced to kill his wife and has no one in the end, while Ramza lives on and spends the rest of his life adventuring alongside what remains of his loved ones. While both are noble Delita's path left him with nothing.
@@NoblesseOblige-17 Ovelia did
oh my god, i want to learn the piano part to this T_T
I wish Ramza and Delita were in Dissidia duodecim *sight*
Ague. Spellblade.
Holy Explosion; Count Orlandu. The; Thunder's God(s).⚜⭐🇲🇾🎂🇲🇾⭐⚜🎁📜🔥🇨🇳🔥📜🎁🕯
@Metroid22540
This is probably the most well written youtube comment I ever seen.
Informed.🇲🇾🎂🎂🌠
damn! im playing this on ps1 rightnow! wish i have a psp!!
@pianomist yeshh!!!! i would love to speak like that X3
Lightly White Flame; Acquired. 📜🇲🇾🌠
Compare this dialogue to many modern jrpg
@ZzFOXzZ I believe it was the nature of their intentions, What that boils down to is perception, be it your own or from a neutral standpoint.
If you're to look at it from the "Neutral Standpoint" Almost every faction was wronging Ivalice in their own method;
Larg and Goltanna both wanted the throne.
Funebris wanted the auracite to guise under the Zodiac Brave story to control the people.
The Templar Knights were using Marcel to gather the Auracite to resurrect Ultima.
Nintendo Switch Lost Sphear🏹♎
Sherra🏹♎
许承恩⚡elected Priest Zalmour.🇮🇹
Penang Seventh-Days Adventist Hospital♎
Lesalia's Holy Bible📚
Punishment(al).🏹
@cloudani Or at least just Ramza. nstead of fucking Prishe. Yeah, everyone was beating down the doors for her, right?
@cloudani Ramza would join the good side obviously. But Delita...Would he be chaos he is evilish. but good-ish. Well hmm
@MultiRationale Did I say I was? No. Next time, read before posting something.
God form? You mean Velius (what is he, Belias now? Meh... whatever.)
No Delita never joins you. I don't want to spoil the story so I'll say no more but no, you never get to use Holy Knight Delita (Agrias is better anyway )
@MultiRationale Where is the point in continuing this petty argument?
@JudgeMagisterDelita Wow really? Man that guy did Vamp in the Metal Gear series, talk about voice talent if he can alter it so much!
I still have hope. FFXII was awesome, but coulda been much better. I still enjoyed FFX and my fav is FFIX.
FFT is awesome - especially this cutscene.
totally agree :D
epic
U noe FFTwarofthelions could have been made dynasty warriors/kingdom hearts combat style if u think hard enough, just need more troops.But, then again, it wont be called Tactics that way lol
@cloudani Screw that, they deserve better, like a sequel!! "i know Delita Wouldn't be in a sequel" but still a sequel, OR A MOVIE a movie like advent children but with the story of the lion wars plus some extrra content like what happened after or some other stuff that happened during the whole plot, screw dissidia these characters are WAY stronger than any other FF main character, and yes i love final fantasy but just compare Ramza to Zidane, Squall or Cloud and other characters, uncomparable.
whats funny is that in this point in the story, if played right, the main character can be like level 67, hahahaha try ur best Delita, who i see as a bastard pretty much after chapter 2