Strandberg - What You Should Know
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- Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
- These marvels of craftmanship and design have a few
rough edges that are not normally mentioned by happy owners.
You should be aware of them before you take the plunge. 
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2:40 - you literally can take the body out completely and make a guitar that can sound good
no you can not, if you could someone would have done it and dont say they have because every one of those guitars sounds laughable or worse, no one would ever ever record with something that sounds like that.
@@elevenAD I mean, Strandberg has a guitar that's basically the neck and the pickups. Look it up, it's called Boden Meloria
@@elevenAD "no one would ever ever record with something that sounds like that" you talk about what strandberg guitars ?
@@elevenAD Watch Jim Lill's video: 'Tested: Where Does The Tone Come From In An Electric Guitar?'
@@elevenAD Hate to break it to you but the whole body and tone wood debate was debunked by a man on RUclips in 2017 if I remember correctly, he made a blind test that conclusively sounded exactly the same as a famous Strat model and he made that sound by tightening strings between two tables, aka literally air. He also made hundreds of tests to conclude that body absolutely has no influence on the matter. Pickups and speaker matter, the rest are variables that are not made by the wood or body but rather by tiny uncontrollable variables as not even two of the same guitar sound the same. Some manufacturers even came out and straight up said that any attachment of players to the wood or shape of guitars are purely sentimental and serve no other purpose beyond looks and feel. Lastly to add a personal anecdote, I've recorded countless metal tracks without people even noticing a single bit that it was recorded on a jazz guitar, so the guitar seems to have no influence on the sound.
No hate though, just informing. I personally prefer old cool guitars though, I love the innovation of Strandberg but it looks so goofy to me sadly, but I still want one. xD
EDIT: Found another video concluding that not even the pickups nor the amp matter, you can make anything sound like anything, the only genuine part that matters seems to be the mic recording the sound and the speaker inside the cab. When it comes to amp sims they are made to sound different to make you feel justified with your purchase to ease the buyer in their choice, but IRL it was concluded that even those factors don't matter. This was found by an audio engineer called Glenn Fricker on his SMG Studio channel I believe it's called, and if you want I can even add the other guy that did the table test if you are curious. Ok acoustic detail messanger out for now. xD
"You can't take a broomstick and put pickups on it and make it sound good." Jim Lill has tested something equivalent and something even more extreme. Watch to the end: 'Tested: Where Does The Tone Come From In An Electric Guitar?'
I think the only thing I'll say is, Strandberg got their own separate building at the Indo factory, so while they're made over there, it's their own little offset factory
I just recently bought a Kiesel Vader headless and no complaints. Also, I bought it used for 1,499.00 and it's only a few months old. Originally, I cost 3,300.00 new. Only down side is Kiesel has poor resale. Great for the buyer. it's bad for the seller. I currently own 3 Kiesel guitar and bought all three used. Got a killer deal on all three! 😀
Anybody concerned with a fret sprout can just buy Richlite fretboard equipped Strandberg. And I haven't seen a Satin finished guitar which didn't get stained easily.
I agree, fret sprout can happen with any brand that does not use pre-cut/rounded frets, its not really just a Stranberg issue. i think it happens more with guitars that don't have heavily finished necks.
Richlite is the goat fretboard material
Thanks for your honest review!
Thank you for saying what people won’t say. It’s what matters most to us especially if we’re looking to buy our first electric guitar.
I chose the Strandberg Boden Classic on Thomman store and I’ll make sure to tell them to check for sharp frets to file them down if they happen to be sharp.
Thanks for the info on the not so great parts. I have not seen the matt finish and nut issues discussed elsewhere. I'll definitely keep that in mind.
Some of these, I don't feel are that relevant. Fret sprout can happen on any guitar, especially imports, and especially anything that's going from dramatically different climates here in the US. My Boden 8 arrived nearly in perfect tune without issues, but the next day was sharp - changes in humidity from the west coast to the midwest. I didn't have issues with the frets at all, but my Boden has a roasted maple neck and fretboard.
The satin paint, I mean.... that's what happens with satin paint. And personally, I love the placement of the input jack because it ensures the cord is always out of the way. I've never damaged the finish mine across several different Strandbergs. And, the thing with the chording and the headpoint... I'd argue that's just not a good/efficient technique in the first place, but any guitar with a volute will create the same problem.
And, the chambering and lighter body absolutely does make the guitar sound fuller. There may be a pickup/EQ issue, but no guitar I own has the bell-like fullness my Bodens do. If you're used to heavier guitars, you may just need to dial back your treble and presence settings.
Very honest, thoughtful review. The Strandberg I'm most interested in is the six string Boden Essential. But I'd have to try one at a shop before deciding on adding one to my guitarsenal.
Interesting points you bring up, no doubt. There is sort of a group think when it comes to Strandbergs so it’s good to hear the “little” things that may be a big deal to other players. Personally I’m a big fan but since they are so different it’s important to get more information. Thanks!
fret slip is something i absolutely despise...
had the same problem on a couple of my
older wolfgangs.
thanks for the honest review.
Appreciate the info.
this must be the most ridiculous review i have seen so far on youtube
Hum yeah i guess
Glad I made you laugh!
I owned a Boden original 8 string for about a year and a half and my experience was a little different than yours, but I had one big point of contention that led me to selling the guitar. My Boden Original had a roasted maple board, which helped to minimize humidity issues. I do have to say as well that the fret work was fantastic, they were gorgeously rounded ball ends, and the fretboard was rolled so nicely, so the neck was a joy.
However, the thing that I feel no one talks about is the pickup placement on the 8 strings. The bridge pickup is way too far away from the bridge, and it leads to everything sounding honky and almost split-coil-like. After I had that realization, no pickup changes could have resolved it, so unfortunately it was time to part ways.
See, that is just my problem with these guitars: they are inconsistent as hell. I also have owned an Original 8 since 2021. The fretwork was atrocious. Very sharp fret ends (not even an attempt at ball ends), flat crowns, and uneven frets. I sent it for a full fret level and re-crowning and it's basically a different guitar now. The roasted maple has made no difference in stability. It also has a tiny crack in the birdseye maple board (although it's purely cosmetic and was probably there before the board was even glued).
Other problems have been the mega thick neck. I have an Oni Essi 8 where the neck is literally a full centimeter thinner. I agree 100% about the placement of the bridge pickup. It honks SO much, but I also have a feeling that the Fishman Fluence Modern is a big contributor to that sound, so I have a couple of Elysium Valkyries on order to fit in the guitar. We'll see how that goes.
The guitar is also a bit too "slab-y" for my taste, although I believe the NX line fixed this problem significantly.
It is overall actually a decent guitar, but it has problems that are typical of this brand. They have been cutting corners on quality control for years and re-assigning a lot of that budget to marketing, all the while pricing them waaaayy too high for the quality they deliver. They've really just been charging for specs, not quality. It's a good thing I'm willing to work on this guitar myself and see its potential, because otherwise I would have got rid of it long ago.
You know its a great guitar when you have to really reach to find flaws. To me, the advancements out weigh the tiny "flaws".
I sold mine less than a year owning. Poorest tuning stability on a trem, cheapest finish I've seen, at this price no roasted neck (?!), most flat stock pickups on the market. Most comfortable body though..
I sold mine less than a year owning. Poorest tuning stability on a trem, cheapest finish I've seen, at this price no roasted neck (?!), most flat stock pickups on the market. Most comfortable body though..
I have the same guitar in blue, I like it a lot but the quality control is not great. There are blemishes in the painted binding all the way around the guitar. There are also finger prints stuck in the paint finish in the spring cavity
Yeah, the input jack is impractical. You cant put a lot of wireless transmitters into it. The thin area busted on mine. Otherwise great guitar!!!
Thanks.
I never buy an instrument with its resale value in mind, so that's where ya lost me.
Than first string distance to the edge of the fretboard is a bit worrying.
The body of an electric guitar has negliglible impact on tone. That is a myth often busted(also on youtube)
How come Korina V’s and Explorers from the same Epiphone (and Gibson) series sound different? The V has more top end. If you see an E chord from each recorded in the same digital method, same string gauge, pick, everything - you’ll see that in EQ and you can’t argue it.
@@NewPraetorianBlues because the electronics are probably slightly different.
@@baal7793 Same CTS 500K pots and Orange Drop caps, same Gibson shielded wire, same jack. I understand pot-sweep variability is a thing but for purposes of comparison you can even dig through bins of pots and use a multi-meter to match values - but at the end of the day physics stands on the side of wood making a difference. Different shaped objects reverberate frequencies in different fashion, because its a game of air-pressure within different density and that's scientifically (and sonically) demonstrable.
As a player and owner of several styles of guitars, I find that the shapes make
me change my playing more than the tone being drastically different from shape to shape. But there IS a difference in tone.
@@NewPraetorianBluesstill a super small difference that won't be heard after running through any sort of effects. The tone wood debate on electric guitars is very stupid. Sure it has a small difference in tone but nobody besides you will notice and after running through your pedal board and amp the difference will be unnoticeable. Also eq exists
Love my Eart at a little over 300.00 on a sale. It’s a Chinese knockoff, keep it in my work truck to play during lunch.
Actually wood has zero effect on tone on a solid body
Kind of nitpicky. Flat finishes gloss due to finger oils? No kidding. Same for every guitar w a flat finish. Simple solution: don't buy a guitar w a flat finish if that bothers you. Fret sprout due to changes in humidity? Same. Every guitar is susceptible to this unless its carbon fibre or some other hybrid material. The other stuff is pretty subjective. I found the neck contour comfortable almost immediately. The only exception being on bar chords in the first position, but I think thats more a byproduct of fan frets since I have the same issues with my fan fret bass.
Uh oh he revved the fanboy
Ummm no. Just nitpicky. None of those issues are particular to Strandbergs. And the rest are a matter of personal preference. If me saying that constitutes “revved up” you’re the one who’s triggered
@@scottbuonanno41 "no u" excellent
@@buckbreaker5185 I think you've hit the nerve of at least two people, who just bought themselves a RESQ
Thanks For Taking The Courage For Mentioning Some Of The Flaws Of That Strandberg Guitar You've Got There. Generally In My Opinion Those Guitars Are Overpriced . 2300 $ And Up For A Boden NX 6 With No Name Pickups Like DiMarzio And Stuff And Maple Veneer Top ? I Mean Come On , So Much For Innovation . I Like The Concept And Shape OF The Guitar But That's It. Btw I'm A Lefthanded So Imagine That Options Were Limited All MY Life.... So I Started Making My Own Guitar Shapes That Doesn't Exist Or Are Too Expensive To Buy For My Self. If You Can't Buy It Just Make It Your Self. 😎 Sorry For My English But It's Not My Native Language 😉
My biggest hang up on these. Is you are buying an indo-China product while paying 'made in Sweden/Japan/USA/Germany' price. Hell to the no on the price for what your getting.
And the indonesian and chinese copy have the same quality for 1/3 of the price. And with that price you could upgrade the pickup from these no name brand to stuff like dimarzio
@@alieffauzanrizky7202 good point
@@alieffauzanrizky7202 strandberg should be a $1000 dollar guitar, tops.
@@alieffauzanrizky7202 May I ask what brand these copies are made by? Ty
Having lots of wood doesn’t make a guitar sound bigger. In fact it should have the opposite effect. Less mass = more resonance = more vibration of the pickup coils, which, along with the impact on overall string harmonic content, is what a guitars physical characteristics will affect. If it sounds thin I’d imagine that’s more to do with the electronics department. Overly heavy wax potting or just bad pickup design maybe.
dang they gotta step up their QA on the next batch
I have one and one of disturbed issues. In any case it's better to clean under your nails when you are making guitar video
I just noticed! I grow food in that backyard and I'm constantly in the dirt!
I've owned a 7-string Boden Metal model for ~2 years now and these are some issues that I ran into within a few months:
* Oily patches on the matt finish
* High E string buzz at the bridge saddle
* Pickup battery drain - the pins were shorting inside of the jack making it always "on" and leeching the battery out. This also affected the output of the guitar
* Input jack loosening on its own
* Sharp fret ends (sprouting) - I had to file them down, otherwise I ended up with my palms all scraped and cut up
My model has no whammy bar, so luckily less issues due to that. I still like it for the ergonomics and the way it sounds, but I had many guitars, some for half the price that didn't have any issues. For example my PRS SE Holcomb model came in flawless for less than half the price (we're talking 900 Euro for Holcomb vs over 2000 for the Strandberg).
I absolutely agree that the mass and thickness of a guitar can affect the tone . I’ve said this for years but people disagree . Not to be a d**k but most players play for a hobby and the majority can barely play in tempo or even in tune . If a player can’t detect even being out of tune they will not detect differences from guitar to guitar . People with years of training their ear for this stuff can pick it up , think of guys like Rob Chappers while blindfolded can hear all kinds of subtleties in tone
And, most players don't even know how to get the tone they want/hear in their head. That takes a long time to know how to get different tones at will.
As for the High E string issue, improve your technique and it won't be an issue.
For that money I would get an Ibanez instead.
it's not necessarily a technique issue...
i've owned several wolfgangs...and
a couple of them had the same
high e fret slip issue/ usually upon pull-offs
and pull-off-tapping
...same models...different years.
That's why people shouls get one guitar and stick to it where possible. You adapt to the guitar ergonomics and get to be a better player rather than a gear whore. @@jackvai2681
The problem with the strandberg is that it wasn't built in the 1950s. I constantly hear people criticizing the strandberg and then praising a Gibson les paul, a guitar made with the wrong design for 70 years, with modifications proposed and then rejected by the purists themselves. Idiocies.
Being a previous owner, I have a few things to say.
Yes this guitar is unique, has a cool look, and is comfortable to play due to its weight....however
If youve ever played a true high end guitar, or more specifically a fully hand built guitar (esp japan, boutique guitars like mayones, or something along these lines), youll instantly notice and feel the low quality this guitar has.
Messy assembly, poor quality wood, sharp edges especially where the fretboard meets the bottom of the neck, and annoying to work with bridge. Its just not there for the price point.
Again, I respect the hell out of what it did for the community and advancement of our traditional designs. But the price absolutely does not justify the unique design of these instruments. Maybe their custom shop models, but surely not the mass produced models.
Ehrm! I own several ESP J:s with outstanding quality. Still I prefer my Masvidalien Cosmo over any of them. The quality of my Cosmo is easily on par with all my ESP's. I have owned several Strandys including the Modern Guitarist limited run Boden and noone was poorly built. However I sold my PRS, Fender custom strat, Gibson Flying V x 2 to buy Strandys instead (kept my ESP's). Happy customer here.
The Chinese clones are addressing these questions at a fraction of the price.
Come back when Chinese clones would start address the matters of quality
@@gkail6980 As with everything Chinese, these instruments come in tiers. For headless guitars for example. NK makes budget to mid range (500 to 600 USD). GOC makes mid range guitars (1K to 1.5K USD). I don't think *Strandberg or Ibanez can offer anything similar in those price ranges.
Shape is irrelevant in anything other than an ergonomic sense. Nor do "tone woods" make a difference. They are a myth put out by guitar manufacturers to justify exorbitant costs .
Don't get the wooden neck. Get the man made version. It will never warp or sprout.
Ordered a Strandberg and send it back. Not impressed. Mediocre sound and sloppy made. Feels and looks like a 350 Buck Guitar.
Made in Indonesia, 100% overpriced