Saosin - I Can Tell Cove Reber Vs. Anthony Green

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  • Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025

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  • @spontaneousbootay
    @spontaneousbootay 6 лет назад +159

    Can we agree how lucky we are to have both? I’m still rocking out to this

    • @nogrecords
      @nogrecords 5 лет назад +2

      Meeeee too!!!

    • @xcynicalreasonsx
      @xcynicalreasonsx 4 года назад +6

      Thank you for this. I agree 100%. I sometimes think which one I prefer. But I'd rather listen to both back to back.

    • @xcynicalreasonsx
      @xcynicalreasonsx 4 года назад +2

      I liked your comment already so I had to comment lol

    • @pLayC
      @pLayC 2 года назад

      who really wrote this and who wrote how it is sung.. thats the one i like

  • @chronicautumn45
    @chronicautumn45 8 лет назад +82

    When I was younger I used to listen to both of these versions all the time and I didn't notice they were different singers for the longest time.

    • @oktoranovrialdi
      @oktoranovrialdi 6 лет назад +3

      They have similar character to present how Saosin music is haha

    • @waybach
      @waybach 4 года назад

      Haha SAME 😢

    • @PogsRespicio
      @PogsRespicio 4 года назад +1

      Yeah i just compare the drum parts to know which is which version

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 Месяц назад

      I swear they shopped around for the person that sounded closest to Anthony Green lmao. I'm not super invested in Saosin (much more on the Circa side of things personally) but Cove is pretty obviously doing his best Anthony impersonation, at least earlier on. He's still a good singer don't get me wrong, but most of his style is borrowed.

  • @TayBuggAndJayBirdd
    @TayBuggAndJayBirdd 14 лет назад +61

    It's not about who sings it.
    It's about how they sing it.

  • @ZakKing01
    @ZakKing01 6 лет назад +83

    Green always fit the sound better with his vocals but Cove was a HUGE reason for their success. I love both of them. I wish we could get a project with both. Wishful thinking.

    • @xcynicalreasonsx
      @xcynicalreasonsx 4 года назад +2

      I mean jeez they've got two guitarists can we get two vocalists please lol

    • @NickYoung22
      @NickYoung22 2 года назад +2

      I’ve always noticed a difference between Anthony and Cove, what I had never noticed was the musical difference. It’s much more mellow/simple with cove singing. I suspect the label had much to do with this. My favorite example of the differences is “I wanna hear another fast song” and “sleepers”.

    • @thatoneguy2136
      @thatoneguy2136 Год назад +2

      They share the band now. Sometimes Saosin tours with Anthony Green and sometimes with Cove. Just recently Saosin played in Manila with Cove. Earlier this year they played a show here in their home county where they both took turns playing a set.

    • @matao33
      @matao33 6 месяцев назад +1

      According to Wikipedia, Cove is an official member of the band again, and Anthony Greene is on hiatus.

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 2 месяца назад

      @@NickYoung22 Anthony Green has always loved the more complex stuff. Circa Survive is great because of this.

  • @Ghost0fDespair
    @Ghost0fDespair 5 лет назад +31

    COVE IS NOW THE SKSK VOCALIST WOOO THIS IS GONNA BE SO GREAT I'M CRYING

  • @dobattlers
    @dobattlers 7 лет назад +29

    I personally love AG's raw emotional feel. That energy bursting on every lyric

  • @deadzombies4496
    @deadzombies4496 9 лет назад +71

    Cove's verses are more clearer.
    Anthony's chorus is so much more visceral and emotional though.
    I honestly can't decide between the two. Its a win win both ways. Like everything in life, there are pros and cons. In Saosin's case, the cons are very subjective.

    • @xcynicalreasonsx
      @xcynicalreasonsx 4 года назад +2

      I agree. I'm honestly glad there's two.

    • @Ray-wn1zl
      @Ray-wn1zl 3 года назад +2

      Agreed. The funny thing is I thought on Anthony's version it was Cove's singing 😂. Still both are great singers 👍

    • @Sweptupbottle
      @Sweptupbottle 2 года назад +1

      Agreed!! Anthony’s chorus just hits different

    • @anthonychavez2021
      @anthonychavez2021 Год назад +2

      Anthony green remains the king

    • @rickymagilljr.8129
      @rickymagilljr.8129 Год назад

      ​@@anthonychavez2021 💯

  • @realChewky
    @realChewky 6 лет назад +43

    Anthony green. It's his damn song afterall.

  • @PhotoShopist
    @PhotoShopist 10 месяцев назад +5

    Can we just accept that Anthony was superior in every way?

    • @Belfegot
      @Belfegot 10 месяцев назад +6

      No

    • @rifalsufalah7243
      @rifalsufalah7243 7 месяцев назад

      Nah

    • @stevma175
      @stevma175 4 месяца назад +1

      Nah anthony sounds like dead cat hit by car

    • @dannygibson2597
      @dannygibson2597 3 месяца назад

      Yes, just so much more natural talent and grit as a post hardcore singer, his natural range was insane, Cove always needed post production help to hit those highs

  • @MattyShreds
    @MattyShreds 3 года назад +15

    Props to Cove, very good version! However, it's clear Anthony's soul is in his song.. There's an emotional attachment singers have in the music they write, to me it felt super personal. Amazing job to both though, banger song in general!!

    • @16xthedetail76
      @16xthedetail76 2 года назад +3

      Disagree. Cove has much more punch in his delivery, Anthony has more dynamic range but that doesnt mean he has more emotional attachment. Cove is far superior. Even moreso to my point, cove sings WITH the band, anthony doesnt.

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 2 месяца назад

      Anthony Green is nothing if not personal. It's why I love his music so much.

    • @Cobalt985
      @Cobalt985 2 месяца назад

      @@16xthedetail76 You really need to hear Anthony in any of his other bands. Especially Circa Survive. He really improved after leaving Saosin.

  • @zapatarmando
    @zapatarmando 5 лет назад +9

    Years and years hearing both versions not knowing first one's Cove's.
    Always thought that AG singed the first one cleaner, and then the other one for good.
    I really like 'em both, Cove's voice is really great too!
    It's actually really great to have 'em both here to sing, cry and smile.

  • @dobattlers
    @dobattlers 5 лет назад +5

    Whoever is second is by far better for me. I smiled and turned up the volume when the second version came on

  • @Mangl0
    @Mangl0 2 года назад +6

    Cada uno es genial, pero esta fué de las primeras canciones que escuché de Saosin con Anthony y quedé fascinado con esa voz tan única y la emoción que transmite

  • @rareoaq
    @rareoaq Год назад +2

    Compare Cove's cut to the new remastered recording with Anthony and everything becomes very clear...

  • @TheShimmmy
    @TheShimmmy 11 лет назад +10

    Well said. I like the self titled cd with Cove just as much as i liked the ep with Anthony. Plus, we got circa survive out of the whole situation, which is amazing. Anywho, The ep and the self titled cd will always be a nostalgic staple for me, such good shit.

  • @waybach
    @waybach 4 года назад +7

    Lyrics:
    Betray
    The Avalon is always beside me
    And I'm following it home
    Where is my home
    Orion glows
    And his eyes open up
    I once believed that I would set you in line
    If only I had the strength you'd be completely accepting something else
    If you keep asking me I'll melt away in the summer air
    It won't hurt half as much and I'll beg for you to stop it now
    If you keep asking me I'll melt away in the summer air
    It won't hurt half as much and I'll beg for you just tell me something
    The fluid through the alpha waves and power cables everywhere
    Exercising self-control
    The child calls
    And she lies open
    I would believe if only I'd been thinking at all
    If only I had the strength you'd be completely accepting something else
    If you keep asking me I'll melt away in the summer air
    It won't hurt half as much and I'll beg for you to stop it now
    If you keep asking me I'll melt away in the summer air
    It won't hurt half as much and I'll beg for you just tell me something

  • @miso8998
    @miso8998 6 лет назад +4

    I like Anthony’s...it takes me back to high school:)

  • @slipknot817
    @slipknot817 14 лет назад +17

    You can feel every bit of emotion in Anthony's voice. He is a god among men.

  • @JROCK50054
    @JROCK50054 7 лет назад +39

    I like the pace and instruments a little better on Cove's version, but I like the way you can somehow physically feel Anthony's emotion through his voice more. It's like Cove is just focusing only on sounding good. While it seems like Anthony is pouring his soul out trying to just fucking shove his raw emotions into our ears and then force them to our heart. You can tell how hard he's screaming in the chorus. Speaking of which, they both beautifully nailed the chorus though, holy shit.

    • @dobattlers
      @dobattlers 7 лет назад +1

      JROCK50054 for me coves versions seems way too fast and rushed, no emotions and if there were, no time for them to sink in

    • @russelljazzbeck
      @russelljazzbeck 5 лет назад

      Agree. Anthony doesn't really have a choice in the matter. Here's proof :) ruclips.net/video/31XmBrNsmRM/видео.html

  • @bel.vermillion
    @bel.vermillion 7 лет назад +2

    Chill dudes, just love the band and the song. Obviously, the two vocalists are great. They deserve to be both appreciated and let's just respect their styles. There's nothing to debate about, if you love either cove or anthony, good for you guys cause at least we came to know and take this song to heart, since then and for a lifetime :)

  • @leandrotan5149
    @leandrotan5149 5 лет назад +2

    Both are great

  • @TroyBizzOFFICIAL
    @TroyBizzOFFICIAL 5 лет назад +17

    Respect for cove, but Anthony green is the best!

  • @matiasbecerro12
    @matiasbecerro12 15 лет назад +2

    one of my favorite songs

  • @kairic2156
    @kairic2156 2 года назад +3

    My favorite vocalist is Green,
    but in this song im gonna go for Reber version.
    I love both version but reber version is not on spotify, so mostly i listen to green version

  • @konsitv2173
    @konsitv2173 3 года назад +1

    Cheers to both of them being the part of this band is a great legacy 😎

  • @rareoaq
    @rareoaq Год назад +2

    Funny how this is the only Saosin record of Cove where he is somehow able to mimic Anthony's tone and range...

  • @lawless2k12
    @lawless2k12 7 лет назад +14

    Anthony Green all the way

  • @dangercat9188
    @dangercat9188 3 месяца назад +1

    Both are nice in different ways. I do like Anthony's versio more but Cove's voice sounds very clear to me. Cove sounds like he's on the verge of tears, while Anthony sounds like he's venting anything he was bottling up inside.

  • @newwavedave112
    @newwavedave112 10 лет назад +10

    I agree with most comments on here concerning Anthony's emotion, however, Cove is a better singer, and I think he does a great job covering this song, and I prefer his voice over Anthony's.

  • @geraldcruz6194
    @geraldcruz6194 2 года назад

    We all know this piece is built for anthony, though Cove is another beast... Both guys are great in their own ways... Saosin for life!

  • @_gkc
    @_gkc 11 лет назад +2

    I like both of them

  • @raiderxriderph
    @raiderxriderph 2 года назад +1

    Both are fuc*ing awesome 2 era's but with same emotional energy

  • @frikers
    @frikers 15 лет назад +1

    both are awesome!
    its just different styles!

  • @vanessaclark3997
    @vanessaclark3997 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this. Just saw them with Anthony last summer. Wasn't a fan till after the show. Wanted to see the comparison. Cove did good in my opinion. His voice is smoother. I feel like it hits my chest harder with Anthony though. Never seen Cove perform. Anthony was awesome live.

    • @brianheggs9437
      @brianheggs9437 4 года назад

      Sorry 3 years ago you saw saosin with Anthony green as lead singer?

  • @Shoot_and_Scoot
    @Shoot_and_Scoot 5 лет назад +10

    The production level is the difference in these two. Seen both live. Only one actually sounds like this. Cove always stuggled with this tone.

  • @JYASON1
    @JYASON1 14 лет назад +4

    yup Anthony as well

  • @bellaglamurosa3527
    @bellaglamurosa3527 2 года назад

    In both cases the deep voice in my mind says: "THIS IS A WORK OF... ART!"

  • @carlosramirezfabian1256
    @carlosramirezfabian1256 4 года назад

    Great job on this

  • @boogie..
    @boogie.. Год назад

    Anthony will always be my Saosin.

  • @lschm2479
    @lschm2479 6 лет назад +4

    Anthony... for sure

  • @gustavgjerstad6867
    @gustavgjerstad6867 6 лет назад +32

    Both versions sounds like Anthony tbh

    • @kuyamaykel
      @kuyamaykel 4 года назад +7

      -and both pictures are Cove's LOL check it out.

    • @dennisstoff8990
      @dennisstoff8990 3 года назад +1

      @@kuyamaykel Agree

    • @Burninterps710
      @Burninterps710 3 года назад

      fr lol i think it is lol

    • @MCNeurotiK
      @MCNeurotiK 3 года назад

      I know this comment is old, but I feel the opposite. The first version may have some of Anthony's vocals but I hear a lot of Cove.

    • @ForuMxHavok
      @ForuMxHavok 3 года назад

      I still remember when Anthony and Saosin split. Saosin held auditions trying to find a replacement for Anthony. I think Coves audition tape is still kicking around on RUclips somewhere. He was a huge fan of Anthony and tried to do his best to stay true to the sound of Saosin. Only through later albums did they branch off around coves vocals more

  • @keithchaffin1139
    @keithchaffin1139 9 лет назад +2

    i wish they both could sing together. i like both their voices but nothing beat anthony greens versions of saosin. he helped build that band with his unique voice

  • @PodSoil
    @PodSoil 12 лет назад +5

    The first song from saosin that I ever heard from was Cove. I memorized all the lyrics to his songs befor moving on to translating the name. But over all, I think Anthony is a better singer. Love that guys voice. No homo.

    • @nogrecords
      @nogrecords 5 лет назад

      Exact same here. Love them both. I think Anthony has way way way more emotion. But Cove Reber is a great singer too. They are phenomenal at what they do. I feel so bad for Cove tho. Everything that went down. It seems like he got a raw deal

  • @Chris-ko7ov
    @Chris-ko7ov 3 года назад

    I can never decide if "completely" is the right word there

  • @dannygibson2597
    @dannygibson2597 5 лет назад +17

    Honestly they sound pretty similar, but Cove is just doing his best AG impression

  • @wowimhigh
    @wowimhigh 3 года назад

    I'm still here, Boys. 😁

  • @ChildrenOfDesire
    @ChildrenOfDesire 6 лет назад +4

    Anthony Greens vocals remind me more of classic emotive hardcore, I really like that

    • @dannygibson2597
      @dannygibson2597 2 года назад +1

      exactly. cover was always more on the pop side which I'm not into

  • @1687rlopez
    @1687rlopez 5 лет назад +6

    Cove!! No disrespect to Anthony at all, honestly. I just really love Cove’s voice. It’s such a shame that he left the band the way he did because he has so much potential. I really think that if he could get ahold of his demons and build his confidence back up and work with a vocal coach he would be absolutely unstoppable!

  • @chronicautumn45
    @chronicautumn45 8 лет назад +15

    Cove's version is just cleaner, but this song was MEANT for green and you can feel it.

    • @chronicautumn45
      @chronicautumn45 8 лет назад +8

      Listen to the way Anthony says "air" that's my strongest evidence. lol.

  • @esellanta
    @esellanta 5 лет назад +4

    Green and it's not even close.

  • @danny2131
    @danny2131 6 лет назад +5

    Cove all the way man!

  • @prestondigitation
    @prestondigitation 7 лет назад +3

    I think they're both underdeveloped in the higher register at the time of this recording.

  • @itsjustacapgun
    @itsjustacapgun 11 лет назад +11

    I've often debated the Cove verses Anthony thing. I love Anthony Green as a vocalist, he has such raw and powerful emotion in his voice, where Cove has more of a refined and less powerful/moving sound. Anyone with a discerning ear should be able to agree on that much. I think for the sound they had with Anthony, Anthony fit very well and those recordings are amazing. For the sound they had with Cove their self titled ep and full length, as well as the gray ep, were all great... Well, some of the songs throughout that era didn't have as much appeal as others did. I think that the guy who's currently singing for Dance Gavin Dance would have made this band exactly what it should be, and they were foolish to not snatch him up when they had the chance. Tillian (pardon me for not being able to spell it correctly) was the perfect blend between Cove's polished and professional sound, and Anthony's raw and emotional sound, Tillian could have taken Saosin to a new level musically. Anyhow, that has little to do with the debate... For this song, Anthony wins hands down... The sheer power of the vocals, the emotion that bleeds through, and the yelled chorus, where he's singing so hard his voice breaks into short screams... It all comes together perfectly in Anthony's version. I like both vocalists equally for their time with the band, but overall I find Anthony has the more emotional and powerful sound, and I love all of his work for that (especially Audience of One, Jeer At Rome, and his Solo recordings)

    • @wafflestretch420
      @wafflestretch420 7 лет назад

      itsjustacapgun Well broken down. I agree with you

    • @dobattlers
      @dobattlers 7 лет назад

      Exactly

    • @vicodinog1908
      @vicodinog1908 6 лет назад

      Tilian is a cleaner vocalist than either... Green had a perfect blend of rasp while still being able to reach the high clean notes imo. I am not a fan of DGD though, full disclosure.

    • @guitarhero38633
      @guitarhero38633 6 лет назад

      vicodin OG DGD objectively smashes Saosin in the instrumental and vocal aspect of music in every way possible. Just throwing that out there.

  • @AzsuraX
    @AzsuraX 2 года назад

    I loved many songs with Cove, and I think he did justice for a period of time but Anthony sings those songs like he lived/wrote them and you can feel that.
    Even the production/mixing of those early songs you can tell they were meant for Green but got reworked for Cove.

  • @snakebiter6647
    @snakebiter6647 3 года назад

    Hey this live vs studio version oh my..

  • @ferchotowers2388
    @ferchotowers2388 9 лет назад +7

    anthony rules

  • @left4deadian
    @left4deadian 7 лет назад +14

    I prefer AG. More raw and emotional.

  • @solsojourn3237
    @solsojourn3237 12 лет назад +2

    Cover's singing gives me chills, but Anthony makes me cry.

  • @bluestang1710
    @bluestang1710 10 лет назад +57

    I like both of them but like cove's voice more

    • @Yiperman
      @Yiperman 7 лет назад +2

      Not really that crazy man. Cove's voice sounds very good when recorded and audio-processed. Anthony's voice is more raw and live sounding.

  • @marlucresencia1744
    @marlucresencia1744 3 года назад

    cove and anthony and SAOSIN

  • @mattgray6416
    @mattgray6416 7 месяцев назад +1

    You just can't compete with Anthony...

  • @Buzzcut130
    @Buzzcut130 Год назад

    The final bridge where it slows down and the vocals kinda drone, Anthony version is the best. Cove is Saosin’s vocalist though, through and through.

  • @dk4ever18
    @dk4ever18 8 лет назад +1

    AG definitely!!

  • @AsepIsrizalAnwar
    @AsepIsrizalAnwar 10 лет назад +4

    Anthony Green

  • @Ronnyvitor
    @Ronnyvitor 9 лет назад +18

    Anthony is best..

  • @mikesilvestri5013
    @mikesilvestri5013 8 лет назад +6

    Cove all the fucking way

  • @santiagopeschiera1743
    @santiagopeschiera1743 7 лет назад +16

    You can't compare Cove's much more produced track and auto-tuned voice to Anthony's much cruder DEMO.
    If Anthony recorded this properly in a studio and produced it, I guarantee most of you who chose Cove would change your tune.

    • @amarmuizz1554
      @amarmuizz1554 7 лет назад

      Santiago Peschiera fuck hell yeah

    • @stephanfrisbie6555
      @stephanfrisbie6555 6 лет назад

      In that case, we should make that happen ;) But totally agreed!

  • @danaverycavite2484
    @danaverycavite2484 3 года назад +1

    Cove NO DOUBT!!! 🤩

  • @vhsquiver
    @vhsquiver Год назад +1

    why are there two versions of I Can Tell

  • @erictort7541
    @erictort7541 Год назад +2

    Cove for the win

  • @H2Wheelz
    @H2Wheelz 5 лет назад +4

    How bout we compare them doing live? I go for cove

  • @mr.excitement689
    @mr.excitement689 6 лет назад +1

    Was this song not on an album?

  • @12eveal
    @12eveal 7 лет назад +1

    wait...so is this song called "I Can Tell" or "I Can Tell There Was an Accident Here Earlier"?

    • @santiagopeschiera1743
      @santiagopeschiera1743 7 лет назад +2

      Ephdel that is the full name of the song but it's often shortened since it's too long.

  • @eccedentesiast1985
    @eccedentesiast1985 8 лет назад

    they both,, deserve to be the min vocalist of saosin... if they are not they wouldnt be in the first place.

  • @maarceliff
    @maarceliff 9 лет назад +16

    Cove the best

  • @TheNotorious6
    @TheNotorious6 10 лет назад +15

    they're both great. I do enjoy cove more though..

  • @Ssacky
    @Ssacky 7 лет назад +4

    Cove did a fine job but i still prefer greens version

  • @tyrantpho
    @tyrantpho 9 лет назад +6

    cove the best

  • @dlbfanclub
    @dlbfanclub 2 года назад

    saosin is just good.. /endvid

  • @theronprice
    @theronprice 2 года назад

    This is hard. Olay, the Tempo difference really causes a problem when it comes to comparing the two songs. There are other things that complicate comparison also. I really like Cove’s song. The Tempo seems much more natural for the song. It’s so hard to look beyond the glaring tempo difference.

  • @METALMIKE772003
    @METALMIKE772003 14 лет назад +6

    Anthony's is better more emotion. when hearing coves it sounds like he sings faster wich doesn't sound right

  • @mrcleanofhvac
    @mrcleanofhvac 2 года назад

    COVE REBER ALL DAY ON THIS ONE YO

  • @dwiwutomo
    @dwiwutomo 4 года назад +1

    Cove better for the pitch control, but everyone have deffrent voice...so both it's a great singer

  • @soggyscarecrow
    @soggyscarecrow Год назад

    Both.

  • @nurcahyono703
    @nurcahyono703 6 лет назад

    Youre not alone version anthony green please ???,

    • @oktoranovrialdi
      @oktoranovrialdi 6 лет назад

      Ever heard Voices from Green version? He ruined it perfectly

  • @secretename244
    @secretename244 7 лет назад

    Cove and Anthony i like it !

  • @NomadicBloke1
    @NomadicBloke1 2 года назад

    someone should make a cover of this with Peter Steel vocal style.

  • @aMANinaSUIT
    @aMANinaSUIT 6 лет назад +1

    Did the people that said Anthony listen to the correct part of the video?

  • @mr.excitement689
    @mr.excitement689 6 лет назад +1

    I’ll agree with several folks here, I think with the proper recording tools, Anthony greens version is much harder hitting. The slower sounds better for this song, and there is much more feeling to Anthony’s version. Cole has a great voice but it sounds like he is just rushing though the song.

  • @Shoot_and_Scoot
    @Shoot_and_Scoot 5 лет назад +2

    They’re just different unfortunately. Love both but the ability of Anthony is higher at all capacities

  • @Shinobugskiller12345
    @Shinobugskiller12345 15 лет назад +1

    they pretty much have the same style of singing!!!!

  • @ariepermadi
    @ariepermadi 3 года назад

    Who is the first?

  • @blkjames
    @blkjames 11 лет назад +11

    In my perspective I think cove kills it. BUT! The emotion put into this song or ANY SAOSIN SONG THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ANTHONY GREENS, will not be touched by a remake!! he doesn't have the original intent of the song imbedded in his memory from real shit that happened to him. this song is anthonys memory. I give a fuck about how clear his voice is, I want the emotion!... fuckin robots

    • @jaredherz1133
      @jaredherz1133 10 лет назад +1

      i love you
      we should hang out sometime we'd get alone really well

    • @chd22
      @chd22 10 лет назад +1

      yup you're an amazing guy les hang out as well

  • @MiguelPerez-cx4mm
    @MiguelPerez-cx4mm 11 лет назад +2

    Green

  • @smamurai
    @smamurai 12 лет назад +2

    Cove just doesn't pull it off. Anthony Green, though possibly clinically insane, kills it. Fuck yeah I love all saosins stuff with anthony. :)

  • @tobythewuss
    @tobythewuss 3 года назад

    Both

  • @justinjerome7921
    @justinjerome7921 6 лет назад +5

    Anthony Green's version wins hands down.

  • @eBurdingbeats
    @eBurdingbeats 4 года назад +2

    Anthony’s is recorded really badly but I know how he sings and I go Anthony 100%

  • @lieslwholovescookies6412
    @lieslwholovescookies6412 5 лет назад

    The first one is Anthony green. Not cove reber

  • @niokta4489
    @niokta4489 8 лет назад +7

    this song isn't for cove ....but cove made saosin