Happened to me quite some time ago. It's easy to see it as betrayal initially but it didn't take long for me to be thankful instead. The new employee was younger , hotter, 3x more agreeable. Male and female versions of loyalty differ. You are loyal to her and she is loyal to her feelings. We can learn a lot from women in this regard and Taylor our future relationships to suit
@@danielhamilton5094 you have been given a massive opportunity although It may not seem like it at the moment. Now is the time to just do you. Build a single life. One that suits you and one you can grow as a person in. Figure out your journey. Believe me if you do this you will never have to look for a good woman again. They'll find you. A good woman is only too happy to hitch her wagon to a man who doesn't need her and join him on his journey.
@@markmarcas6523 What both of you are saying is not contradictory. Women want security in a form of long-term stable commitment from the man who induces huge amounts of drama and excitement
I remember being shocked at how much relationships are more like a business negotiation than the romantic picture I had of love and fun. I never was good at negotiation.The shock of being abruptly dropped when found to be not fit for purpose still surprises me.
It is the off putting bit abt love, sex and relationships, it is very much like a work related negotiation, and bc of this I have almost given up on the idea of two people meeting on equal ground, having fun, bonding and it doesnt turn into a business deal.
That’s the underlying message behind the Adam and Eve metaphor. The very first woman monkeybranched to the very first bad boy. Imagine how Adam felt. This behavior is inherent in the feminine
Content like this is perfect for re-affirming my decision not to date following my divorce 10 years ago. "Don't get mad at women for being women. This behavior is natural." All the more reason to make sure young men know this. NEVER go all-in on a woman. You're playing roulette with your finances and emotional health.
@@ilikepancakes2368 Yeah, but after having my wife leave me after 17 years and 2 kids, it's good advice. And women don't always leave to "upgrade." Sometimes, they just get bored and want a change. They often regret their choices, but they don't look far enough ahead to see what's going to happen. They let their feelings guide them, and feelings change day to day.
@@simonstone7099 Same. Funny part is the new guy apparently must not be working out cuz my ex won't leave me alone. Sometimes the new employer ain't what they wish them to be.
@joncarbone Definitely! I know you already know this, and I don't need to say it, but whatever you do, don't let her crawl back into your life if that new guy doesn't work out for her. She doesn't get to swing back to the old branch, as there will be a new monkey swinging on that one very soon 😁👌😂
@@simonstone7099 worst thing is going back. They always look at you as a spare tire. She knows youre an emergency brake, parachute or plan B. Im big on demotions. Ill let them come back for smash only ranks
@arand4125 smash only ranks 😂 I like that idea! You are right, but it's also stupid AF that they want you back but then if you take them back they think less of you...!?! Typical screwy female thinking and behaviour 🙄
When it comes to relationships Men are in Love. Women are in Business As soon as men realize women are entrepreneurs like we are but INSIDE a relationship they will find peace and understanding.
Here's a wrench to that conversation Dr Taraban: Most employers know that if a prospective employee doesn't stay at any given company for that long, the candidate is highly likely to leave and lacks loyalty. That in itself carries an inherent risk....and I don't mean just in business as we're using this analogy to female mating. Moreover, there is an inverse correlation to women's monkey branching and their value as a serious contender for long term relationships compared to jobs/careers vs employee pay increases. To put a point to this: If men know that she's been with multiple other "companies" she has a high likelihood of having bad habits and being disloyal (Pair bonding). Ergo, if she shops around, leave her in the market; she's only worth the short term, not a lengthy investment since what she brings is a depreciating ass-et.
Most men that take on a "money brancher" just want one thing out of her. She is in the initial feel-good flirt and giggling stage. All fun. But those "relationships" rarely last. And she likely chose him as he is more aloof and uncaring, while her ex had become committed and "too safe".
Great point. Thing is, a woman will NEVER tell you her true body count so she can claim to be far less experienced than she really is. The only way for you to know she's lying is if she's displaying obvious physical and mental signs of being a 304 or if you manage to track her Instagram/Tinder profile. In comparison, a man doesn't put his every position on the CV. After he's been around, he puts one, maybe two positions that are most exemplary for the new position. The only exception that comes to mind are software developers. If they put up a list of positions and tech stacks they've worked with, this indicates to the company that they've done various projects and can probably handle themselves in the new position. Monkey-branching is rampant among the software people since they have a ton of options and are also routinely burned out by the rigorous working schedule (coding sprints that usually turn into marathons).
This is a good point. A lot of these women are very good looking so they are able to monkey branch fairly easily. Like an employee with a ton of skill and experience these women look very attractive to men. We believe we have levelled up and finally we are able to get that beauty we only use to fantasize about. Essentially we become, "vagina blind." Our reason and logic skills go out the window and we do and say stupid shit thinking we are in love. Then we become needy and fearful of losing her and the woman loses attraction. It's not about women and their tendencies, it's about how men can manage their emotions and navigate the experience. We need to become the man every woman would be afraid to lose. Unfortunately, it's counter intuitive and we've been taught the opposite of what we really need to do. Be a masculine strong man who doesn't need a woman . Irony.
The problem is men will often build things around the current relationship. Get a home, furnishings, plan their schedules & vacations with their woman, etc. Then when women leave for another person they've been setting up the whole time, it can cause men to become callous and then no longer treat women as well as they've used to. Women to some degree are poisoning the well, and will often complain later about how men aren't doing what they want, when it was women that created the environment to begin with by hopping around.
They don't give a single solitary care. They will even merk tens of millions of babies through abortion to satisfy their hypergamy and promiscuity rather than be responsible.
That is definitely true and it’s even happening now with women crying and complaining on social media how they can’t find good men. Then the bitter women will keep on breaking the good men, continuing the cycle. This gender war will never end.
Women despise chivalry at their core. Sure they can complain about men not doing it anymore but never listen to their words. Only their actions. They did away with it by acting out.
Oh man! You said it. I'm living this life. Kinda ruined my career path for her. She monkey branched and now I'm trying to get back on track. It's taking years... 😢
Another reason why women tend to do this more than men is simply because women can passively wait for offers from other men to come in. All she needs to really do is to advertise her availability on online dating/social media and pick the best offers. In order for men to monkey-branch, they must put in a lot of effort into actively dating since men are the ones who need to initiate. The time and effort needed for men to do this can be difficult to pull off while already inside of a relationship. I mean, a guy's current partner is likely to notice him arranging taking time off frequently due to going on dates with other women.
@@angstvision7108 Yeah but realistically it's no more than 5÷ or so of men that could be considered HV, since the demands on men are so high, so you're talking the exception rather than the rule. As opposed to around 80÷ of women whom get DMs from people interested every day. So it's still a perfectly valid point of discussion.
Maaaan I felt this one. My ex-wife did that to me when I was deployed last year. She had a bf and they went on a vacation together before the divorce was even finalized LOL needless to say I've mostly moved on and I ended up getting the house so in the end I feel i came out on top. I now travel around the world anytime I want xD
Sorry bro Im former US Army I cant imagine the time I was in being married I saw the wreckage everywhere. That being said I was married after..... 17 yrs she told me one day I want a divorce left the house 3 hrs later......last time we were together... she met a rich guy Dentist while she was with me...I didn't even realize until yrs went by ...then it made sense.
@@dojocho1894 I'm sorry man, we were married for 5 years together for 6. I actually brought her here from the Philippines so it was pretty painful. But yeah its hard to notice those kinds of things when you're in love with the person. After the divorce all the red flags were so apparent. I hope you're doing well now bro!
@@dlbutler Thank you! I'm doing a lot better now, I've lost 45 lbs and I'm actively hitting the gym 5 days a week! I'm about start going on vacations that my ex wife and I always talked about but never did. Its a lot cheaper to travel alone as well lol
My ex GF did the same while I was deployed. During that time I felt incredibly lonely, humiliated and unworthy. However, this event gave me some kind of inner - almost depresion + anger momentum to push harder in life. Recently im building something way greater than i was. Still need a couple of month. If I accomplish that - I will feel like I conquered my flaws, and mastered myself... Enjoy your life!
Its simple- a female's instinct is to improve their situation, so they're constantly looking for someone who offers something their current situation does not- whether that is material or status gain, or the new partner pushes the right emotional buttons
@@phoenixrisin2269 and in the snake's case, the vast majority of bites are on the hands and face- because people mess with thsm. Most snakes give ample warning before attacks. I was on a hike in Zion once and a baby rattler was sunbathing on a rock. Tourists were gawking, crowding it and taking selfies. I tried to warn them to leave it alone- babies are really deadly, but folks wouldn't listen
Let her monkey branch. Let her be another man's problem. When she monkey branches, you know you have dodged a bullet and the next guy will be saddled with your former, burnt out, disgruntled employee. The only issues comes if you were married and have kids with your disgruntled employee, then you are going to get taken to court and lose the money, house and kids. RIP husbands.
@@evaphillips2102 Actually, 2nd marriages have a higher divorce rate (60%) than first marriages (50%). And 3rd marriages have a higher divorce rate (70%) than second marriages (60%). So women just move from one set of problems to a new set of problems. There's no such thing as the perfect man who is going to solve all her problems. Even if there was a perfect man who solved all her problems, she would then complain she has no problems and is now bored.
@Eva Phillips Of course she must think so, in order to move... Whether or not that choice, ultimately pans out, is not the problem of the previous, "monkey." Why then, don't most women just leave, instead of taking all they can get?
@@marriagecausesdivorce7540 2nd marriage is formed from people that already had one divorce, so it's not surprising. Instead, look at it this way: 84% of married people don't divorce or divorce once and remarry and are happy
... Until it's women who are in love and the men pragmatic at any emotional cost. How many cases of long term extramarital relationships have you heard of where the two are in love, but the married man refuses to get over his ego to preserve integrity and inform the wife that he is in love with someone else? The OW, often madly in love with him, accepts the excruciating compromise and remains in the shadows for years, sometimes decades, for his sake. Men rarely, if ever, are capable of this kind of sacrifice. Look closer and what passes as devotion on face value is nothing but wanting to have their little kingdom and people to play roles in it (wife, kids, looking good in the community etc) and eat the kingdom too. Then, if he can also add the romantic love an OW offers in secret out of sheer devotion, then everything is right with the world. So much for male romanticism. If men look like romantics when they provide for family and don't monkey branch it is because that behavior is a reflection of their ego as presented in public, not due to their undying romantic love for the wife.
@@roses6564 And of those instances, how many are because the woman has become a fat pill and the guy just wants anything at all to be happy about for 10 minutes?
Well said. I like the analogy. Women are generally very pragmatic when pursuing a relationship, even if the goal is just to impress their friends with how handsome he is.
Most men in relationships unwittingly find themselves in female p!ssing contests between their partner and her friends. Sometimes overtly, but virtually always indirectly. As a male partner, your quality of life is attached to her emotions-and these fluctuate depending on whether she's up or down in the p!ssing contest hierarchy. It's practically inevitable. The only way to avoid this is to insist that you won't accept responsibility for her happiness. Unfortunately that will typically be framed as some sort of "abuse". Which of course, it isnt.
The last thing is the most common thing for a very young girl to have a boyfriend - like in high school etc, it is all about what "fits" her image and brand. ;)
I got monkey branched after 16 years of marriage. It happened more than 10 years ago. Sometimes I smile when I think of some of her unpleasant ways and I say to myself, "that's his problem now"😂
Guys.. just know, it is EXTREMELY RARE that females leaves a man to be alone. They almost always have someone lined up, and are just waiting to see if the new guy will be good enough before she leave you. I read a stat saying in America, somewhere around 80 percent or more women admitted to having a back up guy at all times waiting on the sidelines and almost all women knew who they’d chose if the current relationship failed. Women are opportunistic creatures. Sucks but true, also women can be the best thing you’ll ever have in your life if you take the time and chose the right one. Be patient. Don’t propose within the first year or two just because you think you’re both so in love. Give it a few or more years. 4 years or so is when you start seeing someone true self
I once worked at a firm where I was one of 3 males with 12 female coworkers. A young female coworker was meeting with a male product representative that came by our offices regularly. After the man left, she turned to another woman and stated "HE would be my boyfriend if I wasn't married". I heard that kind of talk all the time from the married women.
I saw how my father was struggling in life by taking a caring woman and children who don't care about him and at 15 I promise to myself i will never be a slave to a woman and children. 20 years later i think i made the best decision ever. I think peace, freedom and quietness is priceless 🙏
Another reason women monkey-branch is because they can. Since men do most of the initiating, a woman can passively collect offers while she is in a relationship, while maintaining plausible deniability, since she didn't make the offers. This can happen right in front of her current partner, for example at social occasions. ("Don't be so jealous, he's just a friend!") So even when a woman is happy in her current relationship, she can still have alternative offers raining down on her. If she decides she wants out of her current relationship, she can look to her existing backlog of recent offers, and every one of them is from a man who she knows has some level of interest in her. For the man it's different. The man may have to make offers to many women before getting a yes. That's harder for a man to do while he's in a relationship, since the expenditure of time will be harder to conceal, and he has to make clear expressions of interest to these other women, thus denying him the same kind of plausible deniability that a passive woman enjoys. Thus unless the man is a super-attractive Chad, he's likely to have no alternatives lined up when his current relationship ends. The man is like a monkey who falls to the ground and has to spend time looking for the next tree.
Saw my best friend destroy himself by falling in a love with a btch, who genuinely didn't even give two shts about his existence at their end of their relationship, she was already banging some other dude a month before they split. That mf didn't even think twice of contacting me or his family before jumping from three stories, he survived somehow but is a vegetable now and shell of his former self. He can barely speak and just exists on his wheelchair all day and i freaking cry every single time i see him that way, i can't bare the sight of him being that way, we literally had grown up together and the least i imagine how his mother must feel every single time she sees him like that. I've realized this hard way the women of our generation are the most opportunistic people you will come across, i don't even say in the sense of hate/negative statement it's just something i have grown to accept every passing day. If men put on a face and head to work , most women literally have multiple faces and you can't even tell which one is real.
@@Tate525 My father told me never love a woman more than you love yourself and it's true tbh. hell you'd be suprised how quick it'll go from love to a rope around your neck. Am sorry for what happened, maybe trying to go to the Lord can change that.
Many women desire inner beauty, humility, and connection....holding his hand A man may not be the most attractive but every man has attractively looking hands that she likes to hold. I thought men's hands are attractive because it shows his personality gently holding a puppy, or gently holding a baby watching him cook etc Even some model here in Europe, ordinary but nice looking lady, her mom is an actress. She said too to her boyfriend on a tv cooking show, I like men´s hands, I find their hands most attractive because I like to watch him cooking or doing something. and that when she has sex with guy, she stays with him and can not understand women who don´t. Television and media created standards about how men and women should look like, and what is attractive about men, but it doesn't mean women agree with the tv standards. Television makes more money from broken people therefore they say nonsense and happy people buy less stuff. So they will say men have to have a beautiful face and women also have to have very attractive face but everybody sees attraction in something else, it may be something that is not visible with eyes but with the energy and vibration. If he or she is a good violin player or piano or tennis player, the face is not so important in the moment. Nice women may like his personality, humility charisma, and passion for hobbies. Television may say women love muscles etc, yet ordinary women may love his hands, not just his arms because she sees him holding a puppy with his hands, not his arms she sees his gentle side and sees his gentle fingers holding something, or playing guitar. The muscles the television is talking about every day when they sell some products are hidden under his T-shirt anyway. but his hands show his personality and his gentle approach. yet everybody focuses on his face because some tv presenter said that all people should do it this way.
This is a skill that some women are absolute masters of. Drawing men to them, charming them and waving them off the hook just when they are about to bite. Making sure that there are plenty of fish remembering the scent of her, in case her partner leaves. Fascinating to watch, I always wonder what goes on inside the woman's head or if it's all subconscious behaviour.
It seems that undeveloped women are weirdly good at pursuing their own self-interest in ruthlessly machiavellian way, while being completely oblivious to what they're doing. And eventually they leave you and give some stated reason that's obviously bullshit and not the actual reason.
This is why marriages are inherently bad contracts for men to enter. By nature, a woman can choose to trade up at any moment while getting rewarded in the process. Family court laws and divorce law’s greatly incentivizes this. With women’s tendencies to trade up and the government’s help to incentivize this, why do men still enter contracts that are so stacked against them? Dating and having romantic partnerships are fine, but Marriage is a big no no. At least with dating, when she decides to trade up she doesn’t ruin you financially in the process. Minimizing loss is the optimal way for men to move💯💯
@@josealexi5141 It isn’t necessarily evil. Its just nature acting doing what it’s supposed to. The point is to understand this and to move accordingly. You can’t fight nature, you can only adapt to it.
Subconscious doesn’t mean no responsibility. Your subconscious is only a accumulation of thought and behaviors, so in a sense you have control over it.
Years ago when I was in the Air Force (there were no cell phones, only land lines) I worked in the base telephone exchange as a repair technician. I had access to ANY call being made. I could secretly listen in on phone calls without any trace. You wouldn't believe all the nasty cheating going on. So many slutty women sleeping around on the poor guys who were deployed and away for a number of months. Female nature can be so disgusting. I admit though that I was torn between the anger I felt toward these girls and the excitement of the titillating conversations.
I have a theory that military wives and gf's are a self selecting group, meaning, they are aleady more attracted to the Alpha male military vibe, the feeling of security, the "man in uniform" thing. etc. When the hubby or bf shows too much weakness or Beta behavior, the woman goes out looking for Sargeant Alpha Chad.
The unfortunate situation for males is that your hard work and Chad-ness can take a dive (temporary or permanent) if you get dealt a bad hand. (Injury, sickness, economic downturn, bad business decision) Then in spite of your best efforts and grit you can become less appealing to the female. I think the strategy is protect yourself at all costs and never allow yourself to put too much effort or belief into a relationship with a woman. It looks like male-female relationships are pre-destined to unravel. I once envisioned that I would find someone when I was young and we would become mates and care for each other because we were compatible and legitimately made each others lives better. Now it’s obvious that I am a temporary placeholder who can be discharged at any whim. Of course that can go both ways. But I think when men are happy or their needs are met, they are content. Women on the other hand can have their needs met yet are always restless for something they don’t currently have. Women think they settle. But I think men are actually more inclined to be cool with their choice if she ticks most of the boxes. I think most men who love their wives/partners are ok with them having youthful looks and figure fade with age if she’s a supportive mate. On the other hand, once she sees her unspoken criteria for you diminish….bring on the monkey branching. Come on, doc. Monkey branching is less risky? It’s not like a job where you don’t get paid if you resign. Women CAN end a relationship easily and if they are in demand in the dating market, they will have no problem getting another dude. It is about integrity. It’s just laziness and selfishness.
@@brianclark4040 whats funny about your statement is all of my alpha male friends have showed weakness in every sector you mentioned. As a male, l still hold them in high regard. Yet thier females lost respect with each display of weakness. One of the group is so alpha that we have never made fun of him in 30 years. Yet his wife shows constant disrespect
@@brianclark4040 Nice summary, Brian. Yeah, men are simple, basic creatures. Women on the other hand are a bag of ever-changing complex emotions. Hard to know what happens next.
When you leave a company to go to a better paying job, you don't also sue the company that you were working for to get half the assets of that company. Yet a woman can monkey branch from her husband/defacto relationship by divorcing him, getting half (or a significant proportion of his assets) and then getting with another man.
@@mikebingham9700 The law is on her side, government is on her side, the female-primary societal order is on her side. Anything that goes wrong will be primarily blamed on you. You will bear nearly all the responsibility while having as little authority as possible; because in the eyes of all of the above authority = controlling/tyrannical behaviour.
It's hinted at but I'll say it overtly - this system also defaults men as "employers" in the dating market. Men function as relationship companies, while women function as applicants applying for said relationship positions. There's power in recognizing this paradigm. Keep your capital growing, and be judicious with who you hire into your firm. There is an inverse of this as well, as women essentially run intimacy companies, in which men apply for the title of sex partner.
You blend the best of red-pill and the best of blue-pill (gynocentric "counseling education") into a logical framework based on truth. And for that clarity you provide, I thank you.
Also I once read a study done by college Psych majors when I was in Medical school . They asked college students " would you marry someone you didn't love, for whatever reason- money, fame, power. etc". when they got the results back, they were shocked, so they repeated the study. Same findings. Repeated it at other colleges- same findings. The results ? 95% of men said No- they would never marry for anything but love The women ? 50% said Yes That explained all of the girls from college and even High school that suddenly started calling me up when I got into Med school. Many a lonely Nerd in Med school fell for this and ended up marrying these girls, then getting screwed in a divorce
You confirmed what I've seen over and over. Med school guys were kings of the friendzone. They are also nice guys. Then when he makes it the chick is interested in her 30s and the naive Dr thinks he's the lucky one.
I noticed this as well personally, shortly after I started my electronics repair business a year and a half ago. Some of my female friends that snubbed my advances beforehand found out about it and they started getting a lot more than just friendly with me. I'm no longer friends with them because they didn't appreciate me calling them out on it "Ohhh, now that I have my own business you want to be with me huh? Get lost"
Women stand at the finish line and wait for the winners. The delusion they have is the high value man will choose them after all the work he put in he rather marry the average looking woman who is submissive and plays her position not the entitled 8910s that will be high maintenance and suck up resources verses adding and maintaining.
True. I was a senior officer in the services. In my late fifties I had very attractive women in their their late twenties and early thirties at work all over me at work. Funny that.
If your purpose is to be appealing to women you are already lost, because you are defining your purpose base on women... thats femenine. Create a purpose for yourself, what YOU wanna do, not a woman, and focus on that in your journey, then women will come... a woman is a complement never the main focus...thats the masculine approach you lead she follows...not you reacting for what she wants.
@@OmGautam-tj8km Not what he said. Dating is a numbers game, so it behooves men to make themselves as attractive as possibile to the greatest number of women. In other words, play the odds.
Another great video Orion. Essentially women approach relationships with a utilitarian mindset, with the goal of rationally maximizing utility; while men tend to be idealistic with romantic relationships but utilitarian everywhere else.
I realize what this video was for but thank you Dr. Taraban for helping me to understand the why behind companies paying more for new talent versus paying their existing staff better.
I love the business analogy. If I could go back in time and tell my younger self anything related to relationships, it would be exactly that. It's a transaction. We like to throw in all of these romantic notions about love, but when it really comes down to it, it's just an exchange of value. The best relationships that you will have will be when you get to a point of financial abundance.
The sad part is in today's economy, cost of living crisis and government policies, financial abundance is non-existing. Young men like myself have barely enough to eat or to fill up their cars even though they are working good respectable jobs. Can't beat generational wealth or generational infidelity. Anxious and helpless😢😢😢
All the people I know who succeeded with a relationship long term had finances of 1.5x or more of what other average guys have in my opinion. Its always the top bread winners who make the most who tend to be the most successful. This has been an observation of mine. If you are unsuccessful at work then you will most likely be unsuccessful in relationships. Unsuccessful at work just means you are average and you could be doing great for your job level but if you dont make 1.5x over the average in your payscale then you are going to have head winds in relationships. Just the way it is. Women look at the bottom line, not your heart or work ethic in my opinion.
Dude. My ex monkey branched last December and I couldn't find closure. Always wondered if I got cheated on. Thank you for this video, it has put my brain and heart at peace after so many months. I can finally look at the bright side!
I see why cheating is a thing, because many times I be talking to a girl then i realize she has a bf or sitstionship or whatever so I back off and they get mad
Smart man. If she does it to one man she'll do it to you. Furthermore, I've almost had to fight other men due to some stupid female acting single. Not worth the drama. Heck, some men ain't so lucky. They wind up getting killed...think OJ Simpson.
Good enough reason not to pursue her any further - what do you think is going to happen when she gets bored with you.....rinse and repeat. Steer clear !
@@jamesbarbour8400 in terms of wanting to get laid versus wanting a releationships, i should just go for it, the girl in question also go mad cuz i didnt try tp hook up with her, and i still be like caring with all my heart to these girls but then they don't care one bit at all and it really making me not wanting to love anymore and just aim to fuck to be honest, i know every girl isn't a hoe but like i rather have them prove to me they are not versus me believing they are sweet angels like i think thats a better way to go, i even met the classic religious type girl, and she probably was the most horniest of them all. she invited me over 3 times but i said no cuz she kept telling me aout her husband but not exhusband and idk i was confused about it, and she would say she don't need a man but is or was married by a man and also has a baby and like ehh she reported me to HR and i like really think women are loyal to the dick they are fucking or the dick they want, because girls would call you a creep and so on to not be associated with a low value man theu use for attention because they fear it will bring value down to the chad they see, and i had my moment and chance but i lost it, and like your saying to avoid women, but i am yet to see a long term relationship that is actually the one men want, i just see releationships where women are using men, simply or barely toloerating their husbands women really don't need men and want to be single life, aka all the girls trips and so on, wanting to simp over male celebrities still at 40 and so on it crazy, like women who simp over a celebrity is for the streets just because she is never going to love or respect you fo real at all cuz your not high status like that
I think one word that was left out when it comes to women in this whole concept is 'perceived'. Often times, women "monkey branch" it typically done through a series of perception. The new guy usually is perceived as a greater value, and yes, he will be over-paying. Your advantage is in knowing her true value where as the new guy has to now find out what you already know. Keep in mind that after she start her new relationship, she has to try twice as hard to try and convince this new guy to over pay before he actually finds out her true value. This usually never happens. She'll then will try to backtrack when she doesnt succeed.
They say you shouldn't take them back, which is sound advice. I wonder if signaling this principle (which raises the cost of monkey branching) can reduce the chances of it happening.
Women “affair down.” It’s actually a thing. It’s not the case that the new guy is higher value in the vast majority of cases-the new guy is actually lower value. It’s not about the guy losing his value or not staying exciting. It literally has nothing to do with him, what he’s done or failed to do. She thinks a new guy will change her life and refuses to take responsibility for changing herself. She’s a woman, so she couldn’t possibly need to change, right? But women get into a new relationship and new life and discover that it didn’t fix anything-she’s still the same person, but she’ll blame it on everyone else (men).
@@Swordthain111 "Women “affair down.” - this confuses me since i thought the whole idea of "monkey branching" was to branch up to perceived higher value. Then wouldn't the higher value target man pay less rather than overpay? Can someone clarify?
Totally agree with this. Happened to me when I was a young man in my mid 20’s. Greatest gift ever because not only did I offload a crappy mate but also acquired a serious and unexpected blow to my ego which stripped me raw and allowed me to make huge changes in my life
I've come across this saying when these kinds of difficult topics come up, and I find that it's really helpful: Guys, I don't tell you these things so that you'll get mad at women, or end up hating them. I tell you these things so that you understand that women can never be what you hope for them to be: an ideal lover.
Flirting with someone else or monkey branching while in a relationship is better known as cheating! The act of engagement is more exciting than seeking the alternative, and a healthy, happy relationship and home life. New supply is like a drug, and gives a person validation, and safe place from feelings of remorse and loss. Recognize the toxic behavior and know this person will leave you the same way they found you! Love is kind, selfless and sustainable through thick and thin times. Monkey branching is selfish! And saying I love you fast to a romantic suitor is a sure sign of Limerence.
You may have explained why some women/people money branch, but you haven't ethically justified it. The fundamental premises of a committed relationship include honesty and commitment to the relationship. If you're unhappy, talk to your partner, and decide whether to proceed. Being single is not analogous to being jobless.
Women don't follow these "fundamental premises". They don't work based on honor or reason. They might tell you this to get you committed but fundamentally they are biologically plain selfish to get the best resources for their offspring. Men love romantically and idealistically because our love is modeled after mother's love. Women only love children that way. Men are a survival resource to them.
I agree: just because we can explain why some phenomenon obtains in human experience, whether it’s an evolutionary piece of programming or not, in no way justifies immoral or unethical behavior. Wrong is wrong. Evil is still evil, no matter how “natural” it may seem. We all choose what we think, feel, say, and do, so we are all still responsible for our behavior.
@@rey82rey82 once again bro, beyond biological programming, there's something called cultural evolution. Biological evolution says that men are hardwired to have as many sexual partners as possible, but cultural evolution says that consent is mandatory. We can go past our primal instincts. Those who don't weren't raised right.
It's not meant to be a justification, merely an explanation. You could describe gravity and it wouldn't be an endorsement of 'what goes up must come down', just an observation. Furthermore, you make the mistake of imagining that women are ethical/moral beings, and are capabl of taking responsibility for their own choices and actions. They're not. Classic blue pill thinking, which can only lead to disappointment.
Been on both sides of monkey branching in my naive days. If she swings to you, start preparing for the day she swings away. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when, so be ready. In one of my previous relationships, this was the case. When I caught on that she was preparing to swing away, I just let her know that I knew (with proof to back it up) and I walked away so she can freely swing to the next dude and I can move on with my life.
A woman or a man that is open to another romantic prospect while still in a relationship belongs to the streets. That is basically a disloyal person that has no integrity. The only real value they are following is what their heart feels in that moment, and our heart is not necessarily the best guide to follow.
@@andersnielsen6044 If our nature tells us to cheat or be disloyal, then only the ones that value loyalty and integrity and are congruent with those values will resist such an imperfect nature.
@Anders Nielsen Thats really just an excuse to be disloyal and hurtful to your partner. It's blaming your base desires rather than taking responsibility for your decision to not exercise self-control. "Sorry for breaking my promise and devastating you and betraying your trust, honey, but I had no choice because I have a brain." If you aren't going to exercise self-control and you know that ahead of time, it's better if you don't engage in a monogamous relationship or commit to someone in that way at all.
Great vid - what I would say to guys who want to make sure this type of thing is less likely to happen to them is this - set boundaries. A relationship with healthy and firmly established boundaries is less likely to give the female as many opportunities to be "shopping around" to replace you. Watch for red flags, and if you see those red flags, bail.
Brandon, the thing I got out his videos is that in relationship I need to know where I want to go and communicate it clearly. This may lead to going separate ways but at least you don't go where you don't want to go. I would think that monkey branching makes marriage pure folly.
@@ClayWeblogistics Ya when it comes to marriage, if you're in a country that allows alimony or no-fault divorce (or both) then don't ever get married. It's too high of a risk for men. But beyond that, just as a general rule in relationships, if you just make sure you set proper boundaries and hold firm on them, you'll have a better chance at a successful relationship. Women are like kids...if you let 'em get away with stuff, they keep pushing to see what else they can get away with, so you draw the line early, and make sure they understand that if they cross it, the relationship is over and hold to it. Women are the gatekeepers of the bedroom. Men are gatekeepers of the relationship - don't allow them to get away with shenanigans.
Smart conclusions. The difference with using the work/employer analogy is that when one leaves a company, one does not get to take half the company while exiting.
If women treat relationships only as jobs, then it’s only logical for men to outsource such temp contractors to developing countries. Western societies are screwed! 😭
i had a gf that started to lay down the groundwork for monkey branching. i saw that and called it off. she came crying back but i didn't take her. now she absolutely hates me for it, cause i called it off before she could. good riddance.
I started noticing my wifes words of how much she loved me wasn't matching her actions. I too called for divorce before she had found another branch. Thankfully these videos made me aware of what to look out for.
"Let the new guy overbid for your used merchandise" This is a big reason why older single women are screwed. No one wants to overpay for another mans used goods.
@@simonsays5193 They're plenty desirable: wealthy, established, already raised up their kids, fit, own property and looking for a life partner. That's how it is out here in the 50+ dating scene.
They have no any remorse when doing monkey branching. And that's a sad fact. The problem is that the system is misleading young man about romantic nature of relations while they are in fact transactional. So very often it has to be realized after marriage which is usually too late for a man to go away without consequences.
There have been a few women that have tried to monkey branch to me. Just recently this one girl tried to assume I was into her as a way to get me to flirt whilst talking about her military boyfriend. Of course I avoided her. But to take it a step further, I had one long term relationship in the past where my ex essentially left a guy for me. Just know that any time someone tries to do this now, I automatically decline them and lose interest.
Fairplay to you sir. You're a man of integrity. I think some people may do the opposite because they get excited that a woman is taking interest in them. Could be any woman. But you know your worth brother. Love that 🤝🏾
@@vagabond4113 much appreciated. I think initially one has to get past that social programming that “your worth is based on the amount of women you Have” which is so much easier said than done when connection and intimacy is soemthing scarce. But In the event one gets to that point, there’s something alluring about knowing you’ll have the discernment to choose the right partner. Yes indeed. So far so good- I’ll be getting married once I’m finished with college.
@@Bookooky most men that are hip to the ways of the world and are not religious don't wanna be in long-term relationships either, except for strategic business reasons. The men that'll "treat y'all well" are those that are sad and heartbroken after you monkey branched; and here you are holding them in contempt.
Just came here to say very well done on your appearance on the Whatever podcast, mate. So articultate and to-the-point with your 'arguments' and opinions (arguments in apostrophes due to other people not taking them for what they are, opinions based on years of therapeutic experience and research, as well as personal experience). Please keep doing what you're doing, and expand upon your playlists so I have plenty to take in during and after work hours!
The definition is wrong: monkey branching means the woman has hands on both branches, that is she is in a relationship at the SAME time. There is no gap. She has her guy AT LEAST picked out and is in contact with "next guy."
Gentlemen, there are lots of fun and legal ways to protect your assets from a monkey-branching miner. Use them. Also, what she does when she thinks you aren't looking reveals her. Make sure you regularly observe her when she doesn't think you are. Just be ready for whatever you find and never tell her what you knew and how you knew it. Real men don't need to make women better liars. You can't solver her problem but you can solve yours.
What your saying is like what Jordan B Peterson says: "Never Ignore Small Signs Of Coming Betrayal". Except I don't know the signs. I wish there was a book on detecting these things.
@@kavoshkhoshbin1432 Research red flags in women, from a Red Pill perspective. You can learn all of the easy to understand ones first before the complex ones. For example, no father figure, tattoos/body piercings, high notch count, odd colored hair, just to name a few easy ones.
@@kavoshkhoshbin1432 One of the surest signs is if she walks the talk. Do her actions match her words? Is she telling you she's interested but never acting like it? Or is she giving you signals that she likes you and then responding when you show interest? The questions she asks you also can reveal something about where she's coming from.
They`re not following their heart at this point, they`re following their financial interests and ``need for security``. As I was informed when monkey beanched: `` Things wont`t get better with you, even all my friends tolds me that``. Therefore, from this narrative point, the author of the video is providing an accurate description of their ``rationale``: It wont get better with you (confirmation from the peer committee) and I WANT things to get better for me. Not for US. Just for or me. The US part was gone after 2-3 months on an average, usually when the dopamine rush slows down. So, in the end, they`re not listening to their hearts; their listening to their financial instinct and the advisors to get a better financial situation and stability. Nothing else. It`s sad, true but there was no `love` anymore - a.k.a. dopamine rush. That was gone after 3 months. So if you are in a relationship like that, the critical thinking says: 1. there was no real feeling, just the excitement of the new relationships 2. You might not be the financial prospect she hoped but that she couldn`t figured out in the first 2-3 months but, be certain that the studdied and analysed you - again, with the peer committee. 3. If there was love and true feelings, those true feelings would not had allowed not even for a second the idea of leaving you. There`s this quote - I don`t know the original author: `` No lies, no cheating, no breckup. We fight, we fix, we stay``. I guess it explains all. And monkey branching is betrayal. And betrayal is emotional cheating. So if they don`t want to stay and fix; they might need to find a way to exit; and monkey brancking is an exitig. Probably the most pathetic and hard to justify but I don`t think in the moment of deciding to start monkey branching they are themselves anymore. Certainly not a decision based on their feelings, again, a ``financial - security needs`` decision. And they`re not themselves in that moment of decision; you can tell if you pay attention that they`re a wreck, struggeling and tormented and distancing themselves. What I`m trying to say, they need the peer committee support to help making the step because the feelings are gone and the brain, the real proper judgment is fried. All they want is out, at any costs. Whatever happens after that, one cannot tell, it might or it might not work the new relationship but, it was indeed somehow an financial and based on needs decision.
This happened to me in my last relationship and almost a year later, I was able to save an additional $25k! Most Women are a depreciating liability, more and more often, the new guy learns that she's more trouble than she's worth. If she's not helping you add to your finances and overall happiness, she's worthless and should be discarded.
'Let the new guy overbid for your used merchandise!' A nice cheeky statement at the end and very hilarious! Loved the video. I heard a statistic that its about 2 in 3 woman that monkey branch. Although it does make sense in business terms it also makes it sound that women are heartless, ruthless creatures - which in my experience can be true!
Also, another positive of this monkey branching is that you get to keep the house, car, possessions, etc because they have gone to live with another dude and don't need that stuff so you're quids in. Every cloud has a silver lining.
As a hiring manager, I always pay attention to work history. The more one shuffles jobs, the less a loyalty there is. Same goes for men and women. We are in fact the victim of our habits.
You wouldnt know my ex shuffled a lot because she's only ever officially been in one relationship, which turned into a marriage. No one knows the dozens and dozens of extra-marital relations she had
Thanks for the analogy about Monkey branching and jobs! It made me realize some important things: #1: By all means, men should always avoid compromise to women like a plague. #2: Men should avoid long term relationship to women. #3: Don't ever invest time, money, resources and feelings to any woman, it's just not worthy! She will betrayed you as soon as she sees the opportunity! and #4: Invest always in yourself, not in women, that's bad business!
This guy brings balance to the reddpill. Level headed, not extreme, not attacking female nature as evil. Just letting u know it is what it is so youre equipped for life. Kudos!
my Dude, you are always spot on, great analogies and revelations. keep it up, SO fking valuable. took me Decades, 5+ long-term jobs being overlooked, deleted and replaced, with a pre-existing candidate lol, took decades to understand, and you do a crystal clear top shelf job in All your short talks. Much Appreciated. sharing continues.
A conversation about female lineage going back millions of years must be discussed. Their survival depended on finding the best possible mate for protection and passing strongest genes. This is deeply encoded in their dna. And when a stronger tribesman came along a killed of her weaker mate, she went with him and adapted accordingly. Fast forward, today it’s called monkey branching.
@@reenaree1953 indifferent The undertow energy is dude, move forward, and don’t take it personal. There’ll always be someone along the way that she’ll prefer more. The modern day challenge is finding a woman that can suppress that and always view you as the best they can do. Guys can be complacent in this.
Hypergamy doesn't exist in the redpill sense. All it means is a woman dating preferences are different than a mans. She wants a guy who has power in his wallet, smarts, frame, and is taller and stronger. It doesnt' mean to cheat and have emotional affairs behind a partners back. Many women do this but they are the cheaters and is best to learn in dating how to filter these out FAST which by the third or 4th date you can get hints as everything eventually spills out.
💯% facts. What a lot of guys don't realize is "she is not yours, it was just your turn". Dr David Buss believes humans are serially monogamous and mate switch during our lifetimes. Hollywood and religion lied to us about this 50 year pair bonded marriage thing.
@@timgibney5590 "Hypergamy doesn't exist in the redpill sense. All it means is a woman dating preferences are different than a mans.." Lol What?? " It doesnt' mean to cheat.." Hypergamy, especially un-checked, does indeed often lead to cheating, which is the precursor to Monkey Branching.
@@eQuariuz Some women do not cheat. There are plenty of happy marriages around that are not on the video feeds you see in your redpill cult which are designed to get you mad for clickbaits. Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates Wives both dumped their rich husbands which show it is not the truth. No cheating was involved on either of the spouses who left. We want pretty fertile kind women who are of age to reproduce even if we do not want babies. Why? Our nature is programmed. Does that mean you will dump your wife or gf for a 27 model immediately when given the chance? Of course not!
@tee9828 I am VERY AWARE of the fact that loneliness can kill. But I'm also aware of the fact that the wrong woman can kill you even faster. I just stared listening to a new Audiobook called _The Tactical Guide To Women_ . It was recommended by Psyhacks, the uploaded of this video. I have to say that it is a good listen 👍
Men monkey branch too … no matter who does the “branching” the outcome for the one left behind is always painful. There comes a certain age at when men and women finally understand the gift they have been given - the gift to actually use their resources to upgrade themselves instead of investing all they’ve got into other people. Once upgraded, there is actually a chance of finding another person who has done the same thing and actually understands what it took to get there. Once that is understood, those resources aren’t so easily squandered anymore.
In this video the author does not address the point of view of the last member of the love triangle: the man that accepts the monkey brancher. As a man is it a good idea to start a relationship with a woman that is betraying his current boyfriend to be with you? I don't think it is, but I would be glad to hear the more detailed analysis by the doctor.
No generally it isn't a good idea, if you want a long term relationship that will last. If she did this to her last bf, chances are she will do it to the current one as well (same goes for cheating, wether it is from men or women). Also the more a woman monkey branches from one relationship to another the more likely she is to bring emotional buggage into the current one. As long as you are aware of these things, go for whatever you want.
This is the best analogy I've ever heard. So easy to understand and works perfectly! I love your channel. Doesn't matter what my feelings are, you tell us the truth.
I appreciate your nuanced level-headed non-inflammatory somewhat stoic appraisal of human relations. Additionally I'm glad that you went on whatever because it allows younger populations of men and women to have an example of more healthy discourse. I think the "red pill"/"manosphere" may be imploding in many respects. It's far too inflammatory and reactionary. And it doesn't allow for respectful discourse. I think you did the world a service.
The problem with this strategy is women enter a relationship letting the man believe they are in a committed relationship when in fact she is looking for better. One solution for men would be to increase their value and then date like Leonardo di Caprio.
I was monkey branched by the sweetest girl in the world -- just after her "real" boyfriend bought her a ring. She is still upset that I told our co-workers.
This only works because some men are chumps and simps and do overbid for used merchandise. If every man would abide by "bros before hoes", the moment they found out that the woman is already in a relationship and is getting ready to bail out of it, the man should dump her a$$ like a hot price of garbage. Since that should immediately tell him that she'll be willing to do the same thing to him if the situation arises
Fellas. Dump any woman who does ASAP as she belongs to the streets. This is not normal. Yes, women dump men who are weak, poor, don't listen, or lost focus ... however if she has integrity she won't be having an emotional affair while still with you. On dates with a new girl ask her about her past (third date ask .. NOT FIRST. If it slips out she slept with her friends bf or husband then dump her! If she says do not worry about him as he is about to go anyway .... dump her! If she says hates love triangles (means she has been in them) ... dump her! Good girls won't cheat. Just dump. If she is a narc who doesn't care about the men she has hurt you will be her next statistics. No white knighting or simping will change her into a good girl.
@@phoenixrisin2269 it's natural, but not morally acceptable,. As it is natural for males to look for the most possible sexual partners as possible. A good woman is one that understand this natural but stays loyal and faithful. A good man is one that understands it's nature but stays loyal and faithful.
@@firecrowfun But then this begs another question, even if she understands this and stands on her morals, why would a man want a woman who isn’t attracted to him anymore to STILL stay with him? Respect and the way a woman treats you is directly connected to how she feels about you, not about her “morals”. It’s best for men to let go of any woman who no longer display’s attraction to him. Because if doesn’t matter how good her “morals” are, if a woman isn’t attracted to you, she won’t be able to bring herself to treat you with respect, that’s just how it is. It’s best to move on to another woman who respects you as that will optimize true positive behavior from her part💯💯
New subscriber here. This is definitely the most helpful talk yet that I found on your channel. Job seeking analogy makes this topic soooo understandable. 50-year-old man here. I just met a very attractive woman in her 40s... It's game on!!!
You’re correct only if the relationship was predetermined to be temporary.. if you’re entering a long term relationship you’re giving it all of what you have. And as the man in a relationship you’re always going to lose. Do not enter relationships
When they do it is natural . But don’t you dare to trade them for a hotter or younger woman because you will be the bad guy
Men want younger hotter women. Women want smarter stronger men.
@@reenaree1953 men want more cooperative women, women want richer and more douchey men
Just do it… Nike said 😂🤟
I'm guessing it's because they had kids.
Uh yes. We are not the same.
This recently happened to me, it was incredibly painful but the phrase “Let someone else over-pay for used merchandise” is a helpful way to see it.
Happened to me quite some time ago. It's easy to see it as betrayal initially but it didn't take long for me to be thankful instead.
The new employee was younger , hotter, 3x more agreeable.
Male and female versions of loyalty differ. You are loyal to her and she is loyal to her feelings. We can learn a lot from women in this regard and Taylor our future relationships to suit
@Jon Argentina yeah, more painful than I can express. It’s cheating
@@jerryjessup9192 “let” is a word that implies choice dummy
@@danielhamilton5094 you have been given a massive opportunity although It may not seem like it at the moment.
Now is the time to just do you. Build a single life. One that suits you and one you can grow as a person in.
Figure out your journey. Believe me if you do this you will never have to look for a good woman again. They'll find you.
A good woman is only too happy to hitch her wagon to a man who doesn't need her and join him on his journey.
The same happened to me too about months back
I once heard a wise catholic woman lay it out in one sentence. "To women, security is more important than love."
Not any more. They seek drama and excitement
@@markmarcas6523 What both of you are saying is not contradictory. Women want security in a form of long-term stable commitment from the man who induces huge amounts of drama and excitement
Except men hate drama, that's the rainbow communities major.
Besides modern women are about as exciting as a dirty diaper
Back in the old days when women didn’t have rights or a job I could understand that. These days, it is all about lust and greed for more.
@@K9amilo90 good one!
I remember being shocked at how much relationships are more like a business negotiation than the romantic picture I had of love and fun. I never was good at negotiation.The shock of being abruptly dropped when found to be not fit for purpose still surprises me.
Yeah its like arangement marrage.
You dodged a bullet. No one will ever be satisfied with a spouse with a mindset like that
It is the off putting bit abt love, sex and relationships, it is very much like a work related negotiation, and bc of this I have almost given up on the idea of two people meeting on equal ground, having fun, bonding and it doesnt turn into a business deal.
I am ok. I am a limited corporation 🤣
That’s the underlying message behind the Adam and Eve metaphor. The very first woman monkeybranched to the very first bad boy. Imagine how Adam felt. This behavior is inherent in the feminine
Content like this is perfect for re-affirming my decision not to date following my divorce 10 years ago. "Don't get mad at women for being women. This behavior is natural." All the more reason to make sure young men know this. NEVER go all-in on a woman. You're playing roulette with your finances and emotional health.
So never commit then? Not a good message to send for a functional society.
"NEVER go all-in on a woman. You're playing roulette with your finances and emotional health." THIS !!!
@@ilikepancakes2368 Yeah, but after having my wife leave me after 17 years and 2 kids, it's good advice.
And women don't always leave to "upgrade." Sometimes, they just get bored and want a change. They often regret their choices, but they don't look far enough ahead to see what's going to happen. They let their feelings guide them, and feelings change day to day.
@@ilikepancakes2368 it's not so functional in the end then, is it?
Don't take it personally. During evolution women and their children would die if they let go of the protection of one man without another.
"Let the other guy overbid for your used merchandise."
That right there is solid gold!
With that one sentence he has made me feel a million times better about my ex that monkey branched!
Completely agree, Solid gold!
@@simonstone7099 Same. Funny part is the new guy apparently must not be working out cuz my ex won't leave me alone. Sometimes the new employer ain't what they wish them to be.
@joncarbone Definitely!
I know you already know this, and I don't need to say it, but whatever you do, don't let her crawl back into your life if that new guy doesn't work out for her. She doesn't get to swing back to the old branch, as there will be a new monkey swinging on that one very soon 😁👌😂
@@simonstone7099 worst thing is going back. They always look at you as a spare tire. She knows youre an emergency brake, parachute or plan B.
Im big on demotions. Ill let them come back for smash only ranks
@arand4125 smash only ranks 😂 I like that idea!
You are right, but it's also stupid AF that they want you back but then if you take them back they think less of you...!?! Typical screwy female thinking and behaviour 🙄
When it comes to relationships
Men are in Love.
Women are in Business
As soon as men realize women are entrepreneurs like we are but INSIDE a relationship they will find peace and understanding.
Well, make sure you do the business-like thing and FIRE her!
Very Noteworthy.
Totally agree. But they fool themselves and you as well that they are in it just for love!
Exactly the game is simple just don't take women seriously
Understanding perhaps but not peace 😂😂😂
Here's a wrench to that conversation Dr Taraban:
Most employers know that if a prospective employee doesn't stay at any given company for that long, the candidate is highly likely to leave and lacks loyalty. That in itself carries an inherent risk....and I don't mean just in business as we're using this analogy to female mating.
Moreover, there is an inverse correlation to women's monkey branching and their value as a serious contender for long term relationships compared to jobs/careers vs employee pay increases.
To put a point to this: If men know that she's been with multiple other "companies" she has a high likelihood of having bad habits and being disloyal (Pair bonding). Ergo, if she shops around, leave her in the market; she's only worth the short term, not a lengthy investment since what she brings is a depreciating ass-et.
Most men that take on a "money brancher" just want one thing out of her. She is in the initial feel-good flirt and giggling stage. All fun. But those "relationships" rarely last. And she likely chose him as he is more aloof and uncaring, while her ex had become committed and "too safe".
best comment
i guess comenting will make the comment get to the top more
Great point.
Thing is, a woman will NEVER tell you her true body count so she can claim to be far less experienced than she really is. The only way for you to know she's lying is if she's displaying obvious physical and mental signs of being a 304 or if you manage to track her Instagram/Tinder profile.
In comparison, a man doesn't put his every position on the CV. After he's been around, he puts one, maybe two positions that are most exemplary for the new position. The only exception that comes to mind are software developers. If they put up a list of positions and tech stacks they've worked with, this indicates to the company that they've done various projects and can probably handle themselves in the new position. Monkey-branching is rampant among the software people since they have a ton of options and are also routinely burned out by the rigorous working schedule (coding sprints that usually turn into marathons).
This is a good point. A lot of these women are very good looking so they are able to monkey branch fairly easily. Like an employee with a ton of skill and experience these women look very attractive to men. We believe we have levelled up and finally we are able to get that beauty we only use to fantasize about. Essentially we become, "vagina blind." Our reason and logic skills go out the window and we do and say stupid shit thinking we are in love. Then we become needy and fearful of losing her and the woman loses attraction. It's not about women and their tendencies, it's about how men can manage their emotions and navigate the experience. We need to become the man every woman would be afraid to lose. Unfortunately, it's counter intuitive and we've been taught the opposite of what we really need to do. Be a masculine strong man who doesn't need a woman . Irony.
The problem is men will often build things around the current relationship. Get a home, furnishings, plan their schedules & vacations with their woman, etc. Then when women leave for another person they've been setting up the whole time, it can cause men to become callous and then no longer treat women as well as they've used to. Women to some degree are poisoning the well, and will often complain later about how men aren't doing what they want, when it was women that created the environment to begin with by hopping around.
They don't give a single solitary care. They will even merk tens of millions of babies through abortion to satisfy their hypergamy and promiscuity rather than be responsible.
That is definitely true and it’s even happening now with women crying and complaining on social media how they can’t find good men. Then the bitter women will keep on breaking the good men, continuing the cycle. This gender war will never end.
Women despise chivalry at their core. Sure they can complain about men not doing it anymore but never listen to their words. Only their actions. They did away with it by acting out.
Thats why you treat them like garbage and tell them no.. don’t change shit for a woman since she will leave 8/10 anyways
Oh man! You said it. I'm living this life. Kinda ruined my career path for her. She monkey branched and now I'm trying to get back on track. It's taking years... 😢
Another reason why women tend to do this more than men is simply because women can passively wait for offers from other men to come in. All she needs to really do is to advertise her availability on online dating/social media and pick the best offers. In order for men to monkey-branch, they must put in a lot of effort into actively dating since men are the ones who need to initiate. The time and effort needed for men to do this can be difficult to pull off while already inside of a relationship. I mean, a guy's current partner is likely to notice him arranging taking time off frequently due to going on dates with other women.
If he's "HV" no problem, they come to him, he's spinning plates.
@@angstvision7108 Yeah but realistically it's no more than 5÷ or so of men that could be considered HV, since the demands on men are so high, so you're talking the exception rather than the rule.
As opposed to around 80÷ of women whom get DMs from people interested every day.
So it's still a perfectly valid point of discussion.
@@KotCR that dm thing in social media is awful... it's surely damaging lots of couples
@@KotCR true
@@limoncr5205 what's damaging couples is hypergamy combined with lack of social ostracization for infidelity
Maaaan I felt this one. My ex-wife did that to me when I was deployed last year. She had a bf and they went on a vacation together before the divorce was even finalized LOL needless to say I've mostly moved on and I ended up getting the house so in the end I feel i came out on top. I now travel around the world anytime I want xD
Sorry bro Im former US Army I cant imagine the time I was in being married I saw the wreckage everywhere. That being said I was married after..... 17 yrs she told me one day I want a divorce left the house 3 hrs later......last time we were together... she met a rich guy Dentist while she was with me...I didn't even realize until yrs went by ...then it made sense.
You deserve better.
@@dojocho1894 I'm sorry man, we were married for 5 years together for 6. I actually brought her here from the Philippines so it was pretty painful. But yeah its hard to notice those kinds of things when you're in love with the person. After the divorce all the red flags were so apparent. I hope you're doing well now bro!
@@dlbutler Thank you! I'm doing a lot better now, I've lost 45 lbs and I'm actively hitting the gym 5 days a week! I'm about start going on vacations that my ex wife and I always talked about but never did. Its a lot cheaper to travel alone as well lol
My ex GF did the same while I was deployed. During that time I felt incredibly lonely, humiliated and unworthy. However, this event gave me some kind of inner - almost depresion + anger momentum to push harder in life. Recently im building something way greater than i was. Still need a couple of month. If I accomplish that - I will feel like I conquered my flaws, and mastered myself... Enjoy your life!
Its simple- a female's instinct is to improve their situation, so they're constantly looking for someone who offers something their current situation does not- whether that is material or status gain, or the new partner pushes the right emotional buttons
And watch 90% of vvomen disagree with that.. living in a 🤡 🌍
for there offspring mostly*
It’s their nature, just like a rattlesnake strike. It’s nothing personal.
@@Dreweybaby it's not a judgement statement, it simply is. The same rules apply throughout the animal kingdom
@@phoenixrisin2269 and in the snake's case, the vast majority of bites are on the hands and face- because people mess with thsm. Most snakes give ample warning before attacks. I was on a hike in Zion once and a baby rattler was sunbathing on a rock. Tourists were gawking, crowding it and taking selfies. I tried to warn them to leave it alone- babies are really deadly, but folks wouldn't listen
Let her monkey branch. Let her be another man's problem. When she monkey branches, you know you have dodged a bullet and the next guy will be saddled with your former, burnt out, disgruntled employee. The only issues comes if you were married and have kids with your disgruntled employee, then you are going to get taken to court and lose the money, house and kids. RIP husbands.
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The next man probably had the means to solve those problems.
@@evaphillips2102 Actually, 2nd marriages have a higher divorce rate (60%) than first marriages (50%). And 3rd marriages have a higher divorce rate (70%) than second marriages (60%). So women just move from one set of problems to a new set of problems. There's no such thing as the perfect man who is going to solve all her problems. Even if there was a perfect man who solved all her problems, she would then complain she has no problems and is now bored.
@Eva Phillips Of course she must think so, in order to move... Whether or not that choice, ultimately pans out, is not the problem of the previous, "monkey." Why then, don't most women just leave, instead of taking all they can get?
@@marriagecausesdivorce7540 2nd marriage is formed from people that already had one divorce, so it's not surprising. Instead, look at it this way: 84% of married people don't divorce or divorce once and remarry and are happy
Moral of the story. Men are in Love and women are in Business.
Men are the true romantics
... Until it's women who are in love and the men pragmatic at any emotional cost.
How many cases of long term extramarital relationships have you heard of where the two are in love, but the married man refuses to get over his ego to preserve integrity and inform the wife that he is in love with someone else? The OW, often madly in love with him, accepts the excruciating compromise and remains in the shadows for years, sometimes decades, for his sake. Men rarely, if ever, are capable of this kind of sacrifice. Look closer and what passes as devotion on face value is nothing but wanting to have their little kingdom and people to play roles in it (wife, kids, looking good in the community etc) and eat the kingdom too. Then, if he can also add the romantic love an OW offers in secret out of sheer devotion, then everything is right with the world.
So much for male romanticism. If men look like romantics when they provide for family and don't monkey branch it is because that behavior is a reflection of their ego as presented in public, not due to their undying romantic love for the wife.
Men are the true romantics, women ultimately are the more pragmatic sex in courtship.
@@roses6564Yes, indeed that is the case for some men. Not all, though.
@@roses6564 And of those instances, how many are because the woman has become a fat pill and the guy just wants anything at all to be happy about for 10 minutes?
Well said. I like the analogy. Women are generally very pragmatic when pursuing a relationship, even if the goal is just to impress their friends with how handsome he is.
Most men in relationships unwittingly find themselves in female p!ssing contests between their partner and her friends. Sometimes overtly, but virtually always indirectly. As a male partner, your quality of life is attached to her emotions-and these fluctuate depending on whether she's up or down in the p!ssing contest hierarchy. It's practically inevitable.
The only way to avoid this is to insist that you won't accept responsibility for her happiness. Unfortunately that will typically be framed as some sort of "abuse". Which of course, it isnt.
@@sammyb1651 ..and then she monkey branch you.
Better to leave her before.
The last thing is the most common thing for a very young girl to have a boyfriend - like in high school etc, it is all about what "fits" her image and brand. ;)
@@andersnielsen6044 I learned this while in high school. I was the fashion item. Idiotic.
90% of men experienced this while 90% of vvomen are going to say they never done that before.. we’re living ina 🤡 🌍
Only believe what people _DO_ , not what they _SAY
"I dOnT Do THat Im nOt LikE OtHer Girlsss"
@@biglipa yea thats they fav one.. dont compare me 🤣💀🤣
even if she have never done this she knows a woman who has and said nothing
@@GoatHolyfield exactly
I got monkey branched after 16 years of marriage. It happened more than 10 years ago. Sometimes I smile when I think of some of her unpleasant ways and I say to myself, "that's his problem now"😂
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Guys.. just know, it is EXTREMELY RARE that females leaves a man to be alone. They almost always have someone lined up, and are just waiting to see if the new guy will be good enough before she leave you. I read a stat saying in America, somewhere around 80 percent or more women admitted to having a back up guy at all times waiting on the sidelines and almost all women knew who they’d chose if the current relationship failed. Women are opportunistic creatures. Sucks but true, also women can be the best thing you’ll ever have in your life if you take the time and chose the right one. Be patient. Don’t propose within the first year or two just because you think you’re both so in love. Give it a few or more years. 4 years or so is when you start seeing someone true self
Dude 4 years is too long
Don’t do anything before marriage and you won’t have to wait 4 years because you won’t have the delusion goggles on
Can confirm, i've been groomed as the replacement guy or next-in-line on multiple occasions by women already in relationships.
@@Unknownuserhtps what do you mean 'dont do anything'?
I once worked at a firm where I was one of 3 males with 12 female coworkers. A young female coworker was meeting with a male product representative that came by our offices regularly. After the man left, she turned to another woman and stated "HE would be my boyfriend if I wasn't married". I heard that kind of talk all the time from the married women.
@@WhiteGhost21 I think he means sex 😂
I saw how my father was struggling in life by taking a caring woman and children who don't care about him and at 15 I promise to myself i will never be a slave to a woman and children. 20 years later i think i made the best decision ever. I think peace, freedom and quietness is priceless 🙏
....I mean, were you one of the children who didn't care about him?
@@sitcomchristian6886 if the mom doesn't respect the dad the children will follow.
@@sitcomchristian6886projection 😂
Wish I had been that smart.
I once heard this :"Men are in love. Women are in business."
Another reason women monkey-branch is because they can. Since men do most of the initiating, a woman can passively collect offers while she is in a relationship, while maintaining plausible deniability, since she didn't make the offers. This can happen right in front of her current partner, for example at social occasions. ("Don't be so jealous, he's just a friend!") So even when a woman is happy in her current relationship, she can still have alternative offers raining down on her. If she decides she wants out of her current relationship, she can look to her existing backlog of recent offers, and every one of them is from a man who she knows has some level of interest in her. For the man it's different. The man may have to make offers to many women before getting a yes. That's harder for a man to do while he's in a relationship, since the expenditure of time will be harder to conceal, and he has to make clear expressions of interest to these other women, thus denying him the same kind of plausible deniability that a passive woman enjoys. Thus unless the man is a super-attractive Chad, he's likely to have no alternatives lined up when his current relationship ends. The man is like a monkey who falls to the ground and has to spend time looking for the next tree.
@@danielmocsny5066 you killed it with that explanation. I felt this
Bravo 👏👏
I’m learning to treat relationships more pragmatically than just love because of all I’m learning from you and others
@@kareemmendoza5004 that’s why as men we must become stronger
Saw my best friend destroy himself by falling in a love with a btch, who genuinely didn't even give two shts about his existence at their end of their relationship, she was already banging some other dude a month before they split. That mf didn't even think twice of contacting me or his family before jumping from three stories, he survived somehow but is a vegetable now and shell of his former self. He can barely speak and just exists on his wheelchair all day and i freaking cry every single time i see him that way, i can't bare the sight of him being that way, we literally had grown up together and the least i imagine how his mother must feel every single time she sees him like that. I've realized this hard way the women of our generation are the most opportunistic people you will come across, i don't even say in the sense of hate/negative statement it's just something i have grown to accept every passing day. If men put on a face and head to work , most women literally have multiple faces and you can't even tell which one is real.
@@Tate525 My father told me never love a woman more than you love yourself and it's true tbh. hell you'd be suprised how quick it'll go from love to a rope around your neck. Am sorry for what happened, maybe trying to go to the Lord can change that.
Don’t worry, women have learned this for a long time.
Many women desire inner beauty, humility, and connection....holding his hand
A man may not be the most attractive
but every man has attractively looking hands that she likes to hold.
I thought men's hands are attractive because it shows his personality
gently holding a puppy, or gently holding a baby
watching him cook etc
Even some model here in Europe, ordinary but nice looking lady, her mom is an actress. She said too to her boyfriend on a tv cooking show, I like men´s hands, I find their hands most attractive
because I like to watch him cooking or doing something. and that when she has sex with guy, she stays with him and can not understand women who don´t.
Television and media created standards about how men and women should look like, and what is attractive about men, but it doesn't mean women agree with the tv standards. Television makes more money from broken people therefore they say nonsense and happy people buy less stuff.
So they will say men have to have a beautiful face and women also have to have very attractive face
but everybody sees attraction in something else, it may be something that is not visible with eyes but with the energy and vibration.
If he or she is a good violin player or piano or tennis player, the face is not so important in the moment.
Nice women may like his personality, humility charisma, and passion for hobbies.
Television may say women love muscles etc, yet ordinary women may love his hands, not just his arms
because she sees him holding a puppy with his hands, not his arms
she sees his gentle side and sees his gentle fingers holding something, or playing guitar.
The muscles the television is talking about every day when they sell some products are hidden under his T-shirt anyway.
but his hands show his personality and his gentle approach.
yet everybody focuses on his face because some tv presenter said that all people should do it this way.
Orion: "it's just business"
Us: "No, it's personal"
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He's normalizing and rationalizing woman's bad behavior
I think he's paranoid the end of the world is going to come if he doesn't get men to continually accept worse and worse behavior
No where in these st*pid videos does he describe a relationship I actually want
@@Force1Com Sounds like it's time to get your passport...
So true. Better for guys to treat a relationship as transactional. Once a guy thinks love is keeping the relationship together, they get complacent.
This is a mind-blowing analogy. I look forward to donating more in the future. Thank you!
This is a skill that some women are absolute masters of. Drawing men to them, charming them and waving them off the hook just when they are about to bite. Making sure that there are plenty of fish remembering the scent of her, in case her partner leaves. Fascinating to watch, I always wonder what goes on inside the woman's head or if it's all subconscious behaviour.
It seems that undeveloped women are weirdly good at pursuing their own self-interest in ruthlessly machiavellian way, while being completely oblivious to what they're doing. And eventually they leave you and give some stated reason that's obviously bullshit and not the actual reason.
How dare you. It’s not a skill they mastered. It’s their nature. Big difference 💪
This is why marriages are inherently bad contracts for men to enter. By nature, a woman can choose to trade up at any moment while getting rewarded in the process. Family court laws and divorce law’s greatly incentivizes this. With women’s tendencies to trade up and the government’s help to incentivize this, why do men still enter contracts that are so stacked against them? Dating and having romantic partnerships are fine, but Marriage is a big no no. At least with dating, when she decides to trade up she doesn’t ruin you financially in the process. Minimizing loss is the optimal way for men to move💯💯
@@josealexi5141 It isn’t necessarily evil. Its just nature acting doing what it’s supposed to. The point is to understand this and to move accordingly. You can’t fight nature, you can only adapt to it.
Subconscious doesn’t mean no responsibility. Your subconscious is only a accumulation of thought and behaviors, so in a sense you have control over it.
Years ago when I was in the Air Force (there were no cell phones, only land lines) I worked in the base telephone exchange as a repair technician. I had access to ANY call being made. I could secretly listen in on phone calls without any trace. You wouldn't believe all the nasty cheating going on. So many slutty women sleeping around on the poor guys who were deployed and away for a number of months. Female nature can be so disgusting. I admit though that I was torn between the anger I felt toward these girls and the excitement of the titillating conversations.
I have a theory that military wives and gf's are a self selecting group, meaning, they are aleady more attracted to the Alpha male military vibe, the feeling of security, the "man in uniform" thing. etc. When the hubby or bf shows too much weakness or Beta behavior, the woman goes out looking for Sargeant Alpha Chad.
The unfortunate situation for males is that your hard work and Chad-ness can take a dive (temporary or permanent) if you get dealt a bad hand. (Injury, sickness, economic downturn, bad business decision) Then in spite of your best efforts and grit you can become less appealing to the female. I think the strategy is protect yourself at all costs and never allow yourself to put too much effort or belief into a relationship with a woman. It looks like male-female relationships are pre-destined to unravel. I once envisioned that I would find someone when I was young and we would become mates and care for each other because we were compatible and legitimately made each others lives better. Now it’s obvious that I am a temporary placeholder who can be discharged at any whim. Of course that can go both ways. But I think when men are happy or their needs are met, they are content. Women on the other hand can have their needs met yet are always restless for something they don’t currently have. Women think they settle. But I think men are actually more inclined to be cool with their choice if she ticks most of the boxes. I think most men who love their wives/partners are ok with them having youthful looks and figure fade with age if she’s a supportive mate. On the other hand, once she sees her unspoken criteria for you diminish….bring on the monkey branching. Come on, doc. Monkey branching is less risky? It’s not like a job where you don’t get paid if you resign. Women CAN end a relationship easily and if they are in demand in the dating market, they will have no problem getting another dude. It is about integrity. It’s just laziness and selfishness.
@@brianclark4040 whats funny about your statement is all of my alpha male friends have showed weakness in every sector you mentioned. As a male, l still hold them in high regard. Yet thier females lost respect with each display of weakness. One of the group is so alpha that we have never made fun of him in 30 years. Yet his wife shows constant disrespect
@@brianclark4040 Nice summary, Brian. Yeah, men are simple, basic creatures. Women on the other hand are a bag of ever-changing complex emotions. Hard to know what happens next.
@@tonycrouse6544 They're witches. They're conniving, duplicitous, cruel, bitter and endlessly self-seeking.
When you leave a company to go to a better paying job, you don't also sue the company that you were working for to get half the assets of that company. Yet a woman can monkey branch from her husband/defacto relationship by divorcing him, getting half (or a significant proportion of his assets) and then getting with another man.
Don't get married and let the government into your life.
@@mikebingham9700 The law is on her side, government is on her side, the female-primary societal order is on her side. Anything that goes wrong will be primarily blamed on you. You will bear nearly all the responsibility while having as little authority as possible; because in the eyes of all of the above authority = controlling/tyrannical behaviour.
@@JJ-wi2uw You are absolutely correct. Thats why marriage is a terrifying thought.
@@mikebingham9700 exactly it a very simple solution to a very simple problem just don't get married
Genesis 2:18
The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
The more power you give to a woman to make you happy. The more power you give her to make you miserable..
Man have got to be in a mission that fulfilled him outside of what energy woman brings in. Period
Felt that one.
It's hinted at but I'll say it overtly - this system also defaults men as "employers" in the dating market. Men function as relationship companies, while women function as applicants applying for said relationship positions. There's power in recognizing this paradigm. Keep your capital growing, and be judicious with who you hire into your firm.
There is an inverse of this as well, as women essentially run intimacy companies, in which men apply for the title of sex partner.
I'll be releasing an episode on this topic soon. Stay tuned.
You blend the best of red-pill and the best of blue-pill (gynocentric "counseling education") into a logical framework based on truth. And for that clarity you provide, I thank you.
Thanks Orion. Your videos help me cope up with my personal problems rather well. Much love and affection sir.
Also I once read a study done by college Psych majors when I was in Medical school . They asked college students " would you marry someone you didn't love, for whatever reason- money, fame, power. etc". when they got the results back, they were shocked, so they repeated the study. Same findings. Repeated it at other colleges- same findings. The results ?
95% of men said No- they would never marry for anything but love
The women ? 50% said Yes
That explained all of the girls from college and even High school that suddenly started calling me up when I got into Med school. Many a lonely Nerd in Med school fell for this and ended up marrying these girls, then getting screwed in a divorce
You confirmed what I've seen over and over. Med school guys were kings of the friendzone. They are also nice guys. Then when he makes it the chick is interested in her 30s and the naive Dr thinks he's the lucky one.
I noticed this as well personally, shortly after I started my electronics repair business a year and a half ago. Some of my female friends that snubbed my advances beforehand found out about it and they started getting a lot more than just friendly with me. I'm no longer friends with them because they didn't appreciate me calling them out on it "Ohhh, now that I have my own business you want to be with me huh? Get lost"
Women stand at the finish line and wait for the winners. The delusion they have is the high value man will choose them after all the work he put in he rather marry the average looking woman who is submissive and plays her position not the entitled 8910s that will be high maintenance and suck up resources verses adding and maintaining.
Sad never be second choice..u choose
True. I was a senior officer in the services. In my late fifties I had very attractive women in their their late twenties and early thirties at work all over me at work. Funny that.
Thanks!
As a man you have to be in control. Making yourself as appealing as possible to all women.
If your purpose is to be appealing to women you are already lost, because you are defining your purpose base on women... thats femenine.
Create a purpose for yourself, what YOU wanna do, not a woman, and focus on that in your journey, then women will come... a woman is a complement never the main focus...thats the masculine approach you lead she follows...not you reacting for what she wants.
@@castiel4746 Yeah dude, you have misinterpreted my comment. When your in control (of your self) this makes you appealling to more women.
Think you need to chill out with the masculine stuff. You know wheres the most masculine place in the world?? A prison.
No man can be attractive to all women
All have their own taste
@@OmGautam-tj8km Not what he said. Dating is a numbers game, so it behooves men to make themselves as attractive as possibile to the greatest number of women. In other words, play the odds.
Your assessment of women’s behavior and motivations are bleak, but are true to what I’ve experienced. Good job.
Hey I want some of that bleak realit with, likely huge downside arrangements, but I have STD FOMO. Help!
Another great video Orion. Essentially women approach relationships with a utilitarian mindset, with the goal of rationally maximizing utility; while men tend to be idealistic with romantic relationships but utilitarian everywhere else.
Yes but when does a woman decide to stop monkey branching?
@@Josh-fp2qn Absolutely never.
I realize what this video was for but thank you Dr. Taraban for helping me to understand the why behind companies paying more for new talent versus paying their existing staff better.
I love the business analogy. If I could go back in time and tell my younger self anything related to relationships, it would be exactly that. It's a transaction. We like to throw in all of these romantic notions about love, but when it really comes down to it, it's just an exchange of value. The best relationships that you will have will be when you get to a point of financial abundance.
The sad part is in today's economy, cost of living crisis and government policies, financial abundance is non-existing. Young men like myself have barely enough to eat or to fill up their cars even though they are working good respectable jobs. Can't beat generational wealth or generational infidelity. Anxious and helpless😢😢😢
All the people I know who succeeded with a relationship long term had finances of 1.5x or more of what other average guys have in my opinion. Its always the top bread winners who make the most who tend to be the most successful. This has been an observation of mine. If you are unsuccessful at work then you will most likely be unsuccessful in relationships. Unsuccessful at work just means you are average and you could be doing great for your job level but if you dont make 1.5x over the average in your payscale then you are going to have head winds in relationships. Just the way it is. Women look at the bottom line, not your heart or work ethic in my opinion.
Dude. My ex monkey branched last December and I couldn't find closure. Always wondered if I got cheated on. Thank you for this video, it has put my brain and heart at peace after so many months. I can finally look at the bright side!
Fantastic way of explaining what hurts many of us men.
I see why cheating is a thing, because many times I be talking to a girl then i realize she has a bf or sitstionship or whatever so I back off and they get mad
Smart man. If she does it to one man she'll do it to you. Furthermore, I've almost had to fight other men due to some stupid female acting single. Not worth the drama. Heck, some men ain't so lucky. They wind up getting killed...think OJ Simpson.
Literally had a girl hate me because I wouldn’t steal her from her current boyfriend. Girls are nuts man 😂
Good enough reason not to pursue her any further - what do you think is going to happen when she gets bored with you.....rinse and repeat. Steer clear !
@@jamesbarbour8400 in terms of wanting to get laid versus wanting a releationships, i should just go for it, the girl in question also go mad cuz i didnt try tp hook up with her, and i still be like caring with all my heart to these girls but then they don't care one bit at all and it really making me not wanting to love anymore and just aim to fuck to be honest, i know every girl isn't a hoe but like i rather have them prove to me they are not versus me believing they are sweet angels like i think thats a better way to go, i even met the classic religious type girl, and she probably was the most horniest of them all. she invited me over 3 times but i said no cuz she kept telling me aout her husband but not exhusband and idk i was confused about it, and she would say she don't need a man but is or was married by a man and also has a baby and like ehh she reported me to HR and i like really think women are loyal to the dick they are fucking or the dick they want, because girls would call you a creep and so on to not be associated with a low value man theu use for attention because they fear it will bring value down to the chad they see, and i had my moment and chance but i lost it, and like your saying to avoid women, but i am yet to see a long term relationship that is actually the one men want, i just see releationships where women are using men, simply or barely toloerating their husbands women really don't need men and want to be single life, aka all the girls trips and so on, wanting to simp over male celebrities still at 40 and so on it crazy, like women who simp over a celebrity is for the streets just because she is never going to love or respect you fo real at all cuz your not high status like that
Yeah that's an immediate no for me.
Thanks. This video hit the spot. I love it
you have the most "real" content anywhere. I've been a divorce lawyer for 26 years and have seen pretty much everything you talk about
I think one word that was left out when it comes to women in this whole concept is 'perceived'. Often times, women "monkey branch" it typically done through a series of perception. The new guy usually is perceived as a greater value, and yes, he will be over-paying. Your advantage is in knowing her true value where as the new guy has to now find out what you already know. Keep in mind that after she start her new relationship, she has to try twice as hard to try and convince this new guy to over pay before he actually finds out her true value. This usually never happens. She'll then will try to backtrack when she doesnt succeed.
This is such and sound advice and totally applies to my ex, cheers mate its helped me reading this!
They say you shouldn't take them back, which is sound advice.
I wonder if signaling this principle (which raises the cost of monkey branching) can reduce the chances of it happening.
Women “affair down.” It’s actually a thing. It’s not the case that the new guy is higher value in the vast majority of cases-the new guy is actually lower value. It’s not about the guy losing his value or not staying exciting. It literally has nothing to do with him, what he’s done or failed to do. She thinks a new guy will change her life and refuses to take responsibility for changing herself. She’s a woman, so she couldn’t possibly need to change, right? But women get into a new relationship and new life and discover that it didn’t fix anything-she’s still the same person, but she’ll blame it on everyone else (men).
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@@Swordthain111 "Women “affair down.” - this confuses me since i thought the whole idea of "monkey branching" was to branch up to perceived higher value. Then wouldn't the higher value target man pay less rather than overpay? Can someone clarify?
Totally agree with this. Happened to me when I was a young man in my mid 20’s. Greatest gift ever because not only did I offload a crappy mate but also acquired a serious and unexpected blow to my ego which stripped me raw and allowed me to make huge changes in my life
I’m guessing there was covert/overt disrespect from her end and pushing you away before she let go?
I've come across this saying when these kinds of difficult topics come up, and I find that it's really helpful:
Guys, I don't tell you these things so that you'll get mad at women, or end up hating them. I tell you these things so that you understand that women can never be what you hope for them to be:
an ideal lover.
After I learned that, I lost all interest in women. Just have so much more interesting things to do.
@@immortaljanus I feel similarly about men!
@@kenyanicholas6809 Great.
The thing is, that’s how women feel about is also which is why they are so willing to throw us away so coldly.
@@immortaljanus I don't blame you brother. Stay strong.
But don’t you dare to treat them as sexual objects? The hypocrisy of these creatures is insane
Women get treated as sex objects and men get treated as ATM machines!
Men treat women as sex objects and women treat men as success objects. 😉
Flirting with someone else or monkey branching while in a relationship is better known as cheating! The act of engagement is more exciting than seeking the alternative, and a healthy, happy relationship and home life. New supply is like a drug, and gives a person validation, and safe place from feelings of remorse and loss. Recognize the toxic behavior and know this person will leave you the same way they found you! Love is kind, selfless and sustainable through thick and thin times. Monkey branching is selfish! And saying I love you fast to a romantic suitor is a sure sign of Limerence.
You're saving lives Dr. Orion. Please keep going!
To extend the metaphor, as a guy, it's better to be a consultant than an employee.
As a managing director in more than 10 years I have to remind you of that consultants are the expendable ones..
@andersnielsen6044 They charge more and no one employer has control. It's a much better circumstance if you can find it.
This was a pretty insightful analysis, without being hateful.
You may have explained why some women/people money branch, but you haven't ethically justified it. The fundamental premises of a committed relationship include honesty and commitment to the relationship. If you're unhappy, talk to your partner, and decide whether to proceed.
Being single is not analogous to being jobless.
Women don't follow these "fundamental premises". They don't work based on honor or reason. They might tell you this to get you committed but fundamentally they are biologically plain selfish to get the best resources for their offspring. Men love romantically and idealistically because our love is modeled after mother's love. Women only love children that way. Men are a survival resource to them.
I agree: just because we can explain why some phenomenon obtains in human experience, whether it’s an evolutionary piece of programming or not, in no way justifies immoral or unethical behavior. Wrong is wrong. Evil is still evil, no matter how “natural” it may seem. We all choose what we think, feel, say, and do, so we are all still responsible for our behavior.
@@Swordthain111attraction isn’t a choice
@@rey82rey82 once again bro, beyond biological programming, there's something called cultural evolution. Biological evolution says that men are hardwired to have as many sexual partners as possible, but cultural evolution says that consent is mandatory. We can go past our primal instincts. Those who don't weren't raised right.
It's not meant to be a justification, merely an explanation. You could describe gravity and it wouldn't be an endorsement of 'what goes up must come down', just an observation. Furthermore, you make the mistake of imagining that women are ethical/moral beings, and are capabl of taking responsibility for their own choices and actions. They're not.
Classic blue pill thinking, which can only lead to disappointment.
Been on both sides of monkey branching in my naive days. If she swings to you, start preparing for the day she swings away. It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when, so be ready. In one of my previous relationships, this was the case. When I caught on that she was preparing to swing away, I just let her know that I knew (with proof to back it up) and I walked away so she can freely swing to the next dude and
I can move on with my life.
So, you took another dude's girl? Let me play my tiny violin for you 🙄
Correct. Think of it this way. She is not yours, it is just your turn
A woman or a man that is open to another romantic prospect while still in a relationship belongs to the streets. That is basically a disloyal person that has no integrity. The only real value they are following is what their heart feels in that moment, and our heart is not necessarily the best guide to follow.
It’s not even the heart. Just lust and delusions.
Lol what you are saying is that: "human nature belongs to the streets".
@@andersnielsen6044 If our nature tells us to cheat or be disloyal, then only the ones that value loyalty and integrity and are congruent with those values will resist such an imperfect nature.
@@Leoo117 The fact that we do have a brain and a mind etc = options = constant seeking. That is our nature.
@Anders Nielsen Thats really just an excuse to be disloyal and hurtful to your partner. It's blaming your base desires rather than taking responsibility for your decision to not exercise self-control.
"Sorry for breaking my promise and devastating you and betraying your trust, honey, but I had no choice because I have a brain."
If you aren't going to exercise self-control and you know that ahead of time, it's better if you don't engage in a monogamous relationship or commit to someone in that way at all.
Great vid - what I would say to guys who want to make sure this type of thing is less likely to happen to them is this - set boundaries. A relationship with healthy and firmly established boundaries is less likely to give the female as many opportunities to be "shopping around" to replace you. Watch for red flags, and if you see those red flags, bail.
Brandon, the thing I got out his videos is that in relationship I need to know where I want to go and communicate it clearly. This may lead to going separate ways but at least you don't go where you don't want to go. I would think that monkey branching makes marriage pure folly.
@@ClayWeblogistics Ya when it comes to marriage, if you're in a country that allows alimony or no-fault divorce (or both) then don't ever get married. It's too high of a risk for men. But beyond that, just as a general rule in relationships, if you just make sure you set proper boundaries and hold firm on them, you'll have a better chance at a successful relationship. Women are like kids...if you let 'em get away with stuff, they keep pushing to see what else they can get away with, so you draw the line early, and make sure they understand that if they cross it, the relationship is over and hold to it. Women are the gatekeepers of the bedroom. Men are gatekeepers of the relationship - don't allow them to get away with shenanigans.
Smart conclusions. The difference with using the work/employer analogy is that when one leaves a company, one does not get to take half the company while exiting.
Thank you so much keep it going, your approach is very refreshing.
If women treat relationships only as jobs, then it’s only logical for men to outsource such temp contractors to developing countries. Western societies are screwed! 😭
Haha spoken like a true passeport bro; and Guess what? The trend Is being used a lot lately..
Yeah I moved to Asia and have been getting a constant influx of new employees. Even though Japan is expensive when compared to other Asian lands.
i had a gf that started to lay down the groundwork for monkey branching. i saw that and called it off. she came crying back but i didn't take her. now she absolutely hates me for it, cause i called it off before she could. good riddance.
@@QudthsI think that is not the point of this video. The point is not to catch women red-handed. Since all women do this. The point is to accept it.
I started noticing my wifes words of how much she loved me wasn't matching her actions. I too called for divorce before she had found another branch. Thankfully these videos made me aware of what to look out for.
Good shit
"Let the new guy overbid for your used merchandise" This is a big reason why older single women are screwed. No one wants to overpay for another mans used goods.
That's just a myth. Older divorced women have unlimited options.
@@LisaCulton They have “unlimited” options of UNDESIRABLE men.
@@simonsays5193 They're plenty desirable: wealthy, established, already raised up their kids, fit, own property and looking for a life partner. That's how it is out here in the 50+ dating scene.
@@LisaCulton 😂😂😂🤣
@@simonsays5193 You must be young. 😂
The problem here is relationships are not the same as a job. Monkey branching is immoral.
Tell that women 😂
Damn straight
Hypergamy has no conscience.
They have no any remorse when doing monkey branching. And that's a sad fact. The problem is that the system is misleading young man about romantic nature of relations while they are in fact transactional. So very often it has to be realized after marriage which is usually too late for a man to go away without consequences.
Well if you're married yeah.
There have been a few women that have tried to monkey branch to me.
Just recently this one girl tried to assume I was into her as a way to get me to flirt whilst talking about her military boyfriend. Of course I avoided her.
But to take it a step further, I had one long term relationship in the past where my ex essentially left a guy for me.
Just know that any time someone tries to do this now, I automatically decline them and lose interest.
Fairplay to you sir. You're a man of integrity. I think some people may do the opposite because they get excited that a woman is taking interest in them. Could be any woman. But you know your worth brother. Love that 🤝🏾
@@vagabond4113 much appreciated. I think initially one has to get past that social programming that “your worth is based on the amount of women you Have” which is so much easier said than done when connection and intimacy is soemthing scarce.
But In the event one gets to that point, there’s something alluring about knowing you’ll have the discernment to choose the right partner. Yes indeed. So far so good- I’ll be getting married once I’m finished with college.
@@PossiblyAzrael Best of luck and I wish you a happy lifelong marriage 👑
Of course. Means they'll probably do the same once they get bored of the job...
Happened to me three times. I foster them before they go on to their forever homes.
At least you're still here and still standing. Stay strong brother 💪🏾
What you mean is, you benefitted from their company and are mad you weren't good enough to stay with long-term.
@@Bookooky most men that are hip to the ways of the world and are not religious don't wanna be in long-term relationships either, except for strategic business reasons. The men that'll "treat y'all well" are those that are sad and heartbroken after you monkey branched; and here you are holding them in contempt.
well u have to tap your shoulder. youve done a great job as a tots flyer
But if they are monkey branchers, it won’t be forever
Just came here to say very well done on your appearance on the Whatever podcast, mate. So articultate and to-the-point with your 'arguments' and opinions (arguments in apostrophes due to other people not taking them for what they are, opinions based on years of therapeutic experience and research, as well as personal experience). Please keep doing what you're doing, and expand upon your playlists so I have plenty to take in during and after work hours!
The definition is wrong: monkey branching means the woman has hands on both branches, that is she is in a relationship at the SAME time. There is no gap. She has her guy AT LEAST picked out and is in contact with "next guy."
Gentlemen, there are lots of fun and legal ways to protect your assets from a monkey-branching miner. Use them. Also, what she does when she thinks you aren't looking reveals her. Make sure you regularly observe her when she doesn't think you are. Just be ready for whatever you find and never tell her what you knew and how you knew it. Real men don't need to make women better liars. You can't solver her problem but you can solve yours.
What your saying is like what Jordan B Peterson says: "Never Ignore Small Signs Of Coming Betrayal".
Except I don't know the signs. I wish there was a book on detecting these things.
@@kavoshkhoshbin1432 Research red flags in women, from a Red Pill perspective. You can learn all of the easy to understand ones first before the complex ones. For example, no father figure, tattoos/body piercings, high notch count, odd colored hair, just to name a few easy ones.
@@Reper123100 Thanks! Will look into it.
@@kavoshkhoshbin1432 One of the surest signs is if she walks the talk. Do her actions match her words? Is she telling you she's interested but never acting like it? Or is she giving you signals that she likes you and then responding when you show interest? The questions she asks you also can reveal something about where she's coming from.
They`re not following their heart at this point, they`re following their financial interests and ``need for security``. As I was informed when monkey beanched: `` Things wont`t get better with you, even all my friends tolds me that``. Therefore, from this narrative point, the author of the video is providing an accurate description of their ``rationale``: It wont get better with you (confirmation from the peer committee) and I WANT things to get better for me. Not for US. Just for or me. The US part was gone after 2-3 months on an average, usually when the dopamine rush slows down. So, in the end, they`re not listening to their hearts; their listening to their financial instinct and the advisors to get a better financial situation and stability. Nothing else. It`s sad, true but there was no `love` anymore - a.k.a. dopamine rush. That was gone after 3 months. So if you are in a relationship like that, the critical thinking says: 1. there was no real feeling, just the excitement of the new relationships 2. You might not be the financial prospect she hoped but that she couldn`t figured out in the first 2-3 months but, be certain that the studdied and analysed you - again, with the peer committee. 3. If there was love and true feelings, those true feelings would not had allowed not even for a second the idea of leaving you. There`s this quote - I don`t know the original author: `` No lies, no cheating, no breckup. We fight, we fix, we stay``. I guess it explains all. And monkey branching is betrayal. And betrayal is emotional cheating. So if they don`t want to stay and fix; they might need to find a way to exit; and monkey brancking is an exitig. Probably the most pathetic and hard to justify but I don`t think in the moment of deciding to start monkey branching they are themselves anymore. Certainly not a decision based on their feelings, again, a ``financial - security needs`` decision. And they`re not themselves in that moment of decision; you can tell if you pay attention that they`re a wreck, struggeling and tormented and distancing themselves. What I`m trying to say, they need the peer committee support to help making the step because the feelings are gone and the brain, the real proper judgment is fried. All they want is out, at any costs. Whatever happens after that, one cannot tell, it might or it might not work the new relationship but, it was indeed somehow an financial and based on needs decision.
By far one of the best videos out there in explaining how to get the best deal of whatever you are negotiating in your life.
This happened to me in my last relationship and almost a year later, I was able to save an additional $25k! Most Women are a depreciating liability, more and more often, the new guy learns that she's more trouble than she's worth. If she's not helping you add to your finances and overall happiness, she's worthless and should be discarded.
'Let the new guy overbid for your used merchandise!' A nice cheeky statement at the end and very hilarious! Loved the video. I heard a statistic that its about 2 in 3 woman that monkey branch. Although it does make sense in business terms it also makes it sound that women are heartless, ruthless creatures - which in my experience can be true!
Also, another positive of this monkey branching is that you get to keep the house, car, possessions, etc because they have gone to live with another dude and don't need that stuff so you're quids in. Every cloud has a silver lining.
As a hiring manager, I always pay attention to work history. The more one shuffles jobs, the less a loyalty there is. Same goes for men and women. We are in fact the victim of our habits.
Depends. Abusive work culture, being underpaid... I'd not hire someone who hadn't left poor conditons as it shows low self worth
You don't owe any company any grain of loyalty ✌🏽
I have stolen from every single job I've had and was never caught. I will always steal from someone getting me on the cheap.
@@thereisnosanctuary6184 lol
You wouldnt know my ex shuffled a lot because she's only ever officially been in one relationship, which turned into a marriage. No one knows the dozens and dozens of extra-marital relations she had
Thanks for the analogy about Monkey branching and jobs! It made me realize some important things: #1: By all means, men should always avoid compromise to women like a plague. #2: Men should avoid long term relationship to women. #3: Don't ever invest time, money, resources and feelings to any woman, it's just not worthy! She will betrayed you as soon as she sees the opportunity! and #4: Invest always in yourself, not in women, that's bad business!
Wow it looks like you are about to be an adult man :D
Dude who hurt you
@@philippdeubler2806
He is right though.
Why hire an employee when you can rent the services as needed? Stay as a self employed person and enjoy balanced liabilities and benefits.
This guy brings balance to the reddpill. Level headed, not extreme, not attacking female nature as evil. Just letting u know it is what it is so youre equipped for life. Kudos!
my Dude, you are always spot on, great analogies and revelations. keep it up, SO fking valuable. took me Decades, 5+ long-term jobs being overlooked, deleted and replaced, with a pre-existing candidate lol, took decades to understand, and you do a crystal clear top shelf job in All your short talks. Much Appreciated. sharing continues.
Damn! Your episodes keep getting better and better. Congrats.
A conversation about female lineage going back millions of years must be discussed. Their survival depended on finding the best possible mate for protection and passing strongest genes. This is deeply encoded in their dna. And when a stronger tribesman came along a killed of her weaker mate, she went with him and adapted accordingly. Fast forward, today it’s called monkey branching.
So what is worse: men killing eachother or women trying to survive?
@@reenaree1953you
@@reenaree1953 women encouraging men to kill eachother and rewarding the criminals and murderers
@@reenaree1953 indifferent
The undertow energy is dude, move forward, and don’t take it personal. There’ll always be someone along the way that she’ll prefer more. The modern day challenge is finding a woman that can suppress that and always view you as the best they can do. Guys can be complacent in this.
@@milkywaypride99 ... This guy knows 👏👌 Well said.
Its also called hypergamy.
You never have her as your woman, it is just your turn.
Hypergamy doesn't exist in the redpill sense. All it means is a woman dating preferences are different than a mans. She wants a guy who has power in his wallet, smarts, frame, and is taller and stronger. It doesnt' mean to cheat and have emotional affairs behind a partners back. Many women do this but they are the cheaters and is best to learn in dating how to filter these out FAST which by the third or 4th date you can get hints as everything eventually spills out.
💯% facts. What a lot of guys don't realize is "she is not yours, it was just your turn". Dr David Buss believes humans are serially monogamous and mate switch during our lifetimes. Hollywood and religion lied to us about this 50 year pair bonded marriage thing.
@@timgibney5590 "Hypergamy doesn't exist in the redpill sense. All it means is a woman dating preferences are different than a mans.." Lol What??
" It doesnt' mean to cheat.."
Hypergamy, especially un-checked, does indeed often lead to cheating, which is the precursor to Monkey Branching.
@@eQuariuz Some women do not cheat. There are plenty of happy marriages around that are not on the video feeds you see in your redpill cult which are designed to get you mad for clickbaits. Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates Wives both dumped their rich husbands which show it is not the truth. No cheating was involved on either of the spouses who left.
We want pretty fertile kind women who are of age to reproduce even if we do not want babies. Why? Our nature is programmed. Does that mean you will dump your wife or gf for a 27 model immediately when given the chance? Of course not!
One day you will understand the story of Mr Frog and Ms Scorpion and understand the word “nature”
As long as I focus on my mission, purpose, goals, hobbies, and health, I will be alright.
No you wont, you still need healthy relationships and connect with someone
@tee9828 I am VERY AWARE of the fact that loneliness can kill. But I'm also aware of the fact that the wrong woman can kill you even faster. I just stared listening to a new Audiobook called _The Tactical Guide To Women_ . It was recommended by Psyhacks, the uploaded of this video. I have to say that it is a good listen 👍
Men monkey branch too … no matter who does the “branching” the outcome for the one left behind is always painful. There comes a certain age at when men and women finally understand the gift they have been given - the gift to actually use their resources to upgrade themselves instead of investing all they’ve got into other people. Once upgraded, there is actually a chance of finding another person who has done the same thing and actually understands what it took to get there. Once that is understood, those resources aren’t so easily squandered anymore.
Best comment!
"you will come off as mercenary and sociopathic..." Good dictionary definition of women dating habits 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
In this video the author does not address the point of view of the last member of the love triangle: the man that accepts the monkey brancher.
As a man is it a good idea to start a relationship with a woman that is betraying his current boyfriend to be with you? I don't think it is, but I would be glad to hear the more detailed analysis by the doctor.
+1
No generally it isn't a good idea, if you want a long term relationship that will last.
If she did this to her last bf, chances are she will do it to the current one as well (same goes for cheating, wether it is from men or women).
Also the more a woman monkey branches from one relationship to another the more likely she is to bring emotional buggage into the current one.
As long as you are aware of these things, go for whatever you want.
You’re talking as if women announce when they’re monkey branching. They don’t.
@@thelegendarykevininsales7589 Actually 90% of women will scream it at you long before it happens. You are just immune or ignorant. That is the truth!
@@respuesta Womens subtle signs are so obvious that you must be a degenerated man like Andrew Tate or one of his followers not to perceive them.
That was an EXCELLENT closing line.
This is the best analogy I've ever heard. So easy to understand and works perfectly! I love your channel. Doesn't matter what my feelings are, you tell us the truth.
Thanks!
Love it, youre like rollo tomassi but with better delivery and not as much fluff BS talk. More straight to the point
wow this guy doubled his subscribers in 4 or 5 months. He was on about 50k subs at start of '23, good going
I appreciate your nuanced level-headed non-inflammatory somewhat stoic appraisal of human relations. Additionally I'm glad that you went on whatever because it allows younger populations of men and women to have an example of more healthy discourse. I think the "red pill"/"manosphere" may be imploding in many respects. It's far too inflammatory and reactionary. And it doesn't allow for respectful discourse. I think you did the world a service.
Doc you SO nailed it in this video.
And Gents, what he's saying here is pure gold. Watch this one twice..
The problem with this strategy is women enter a relationship letting the man believe they are in a committed relationship when in fact she is looking for better.
One solution for men would be to increase their value and then date like Leonardo di Caprio.
I was monkey branched by the sweetest girl in the world -- just after her "real" boyfriend bought her a ring. She is still upset that I told our co-workers.
This only works because some men are chumps and simps and do overbid for used merchandise. If every man would abide by "bros before hoes", the moment they found out that the woman is already in a relationship and is getting ready to bail out of it, the man should dump her a$$ like a hot price of garbage. Since that should immediately tell him that she'll be willing to do the same thing to him if the situation arises
Thanks
I despise this. But there’s no arguing against it. Knowledge is wisdom. Thanks for sharing.
The worst part of this is that employees get an enormous severance package (usually half of the company's assets).
Fellas. Dump any woman who does ASAP as she belongs to the streets. This is not normal. Yes, women dump men who are weak, poor, don't listen, or lost focus ... however if she has integrity she won't be having an emotional affair while still with you. On dates with a new girl ask her about her past (third date ask .. NOT FIRST. If it slips out she slept with her friends bf or husband then dump her! If she says do not worry about him as he is about to go anyway .... dump her! If she says hates love triangles (means she has been in them) ... dump her! Good girls won't cheat. Just dump. If she is a narc who doesn't care about the men she has hurt you will be her next statistics. No white knighting or simping will change her into a good girl.
Actually it is normal. It’s their nature
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@@phoenixrisin2269 it's natural, but not morally acceptable,. As it is natural for males to look for the most possible sexual partners as possible. A good woman is one that understand this natural but stays loyal and faithful. A good man is one that understands it's nature but stays loyal and faithful.
@@firecrowfun But then this begs another question, even if she understands this and stands on her morals, why would a man want a woman who isn’t attracted to him anymore to STILL stay with him? Respect and the way a woman treats you is directly connected to how she feels about you, not about her “morals”. It’s best for men to let go of any woman who no longer display’s attraction to him. Because if doesn’t matter how good her “morals” are, if a woman isn’t attracted to you, she won’t be able to bring herself to treat you with respect, that’s just how it is. It’s best to move on to another woman who respects you as that will optimize true positive behavior from her part💯💯
Yep - once they've gone to the 'dark side', there's no recovering them - they're as good as trash from that moment on - never forgive, never forget !
"Understanding can do much to mitigate the pain". Totally agree.
The clarity of your concepts is superb. More interested in the jobs-employees-companies side than the women monkey branching. Instantly subscribed.
New subscriber here. This is definitely the most helpful talk yet that I found on your channel. Job seeking analogy makes this topic soooo understandable. 50-year-old man here. I just met a very attractive woman in her 40s... It's game on!!!
Nicely articulated. My last two marriages had the same situation. I started investing in myself.
You’re correct only if the relationship was predetermined to be temporary.. if you’re entering a long term relationship you’re giving it all of what you have. And as the man in a relationship you’re always going to lose. Do not enter relationships