I use and carry both kinds. The situation and my mood at the time determines which one I choose. Pro tip: when not using your ferro rod for an extended period of time, or like I do, after every use, coat your rod in a thin coat of vaseline or chapstick to prevent corrosion. Either one will not affect the performance and will only add a bit more fuel to your strike.
Living on a salt water estuary can have an effect on your ferro rods. I noticed this a few years ago. One rod, having been forgotten at the bottom of my bergen, had "furred" up (oxidised) due to the high salt content in the air that we have here. Good video. Thank you.
those chatter marks can all but be eliminated through the proper technique. Plus you can use a file to remove them. I prefer an XL rod, my current 10"x 1/2" is the best one I have ever used. You can really develop massive amounts of sparks with a large rod and they make lighting fires easy. I use fire-cord paracord to weave a handle on 5" of the rod and then can make a 5" stroke.
Orion , I agree with you , I have over 100 Ferro Rods from Nathan 4071 and over 700 pieces of Fat Wood , So it doesn't matter much how long of a stroke I get , I usually get Fire on the 1st or 2nd strike , And I have 2 massive 1inch by 10 inch Ferro Rods if ever I need to set the Earth on fire , I too have 550 Paracord /Firecord plus wax infused juke string , I will be sending Nathan some very soon so watch for his video
I like replacing the striker with the p38 can opener with edges filed sharp 90deg. the true military issue ones are 1045 or 1050 hardened to 52-55 HRc (in the very military specifications, usually military specifications are strictly adhered to as you otherwise loose the contract and get fined), the cheap replicas are usually not hardened just stamped cold. some of the military ones (six of the twenty seven I have) even throw sparks with flint (not great showers but...)
Really great! My metal matches are all on the hard side, but it would be cool to test out a softer and magnesium heavy too. Any suggestion of brand and type to look for?
Hey my man ! Sorry I missed this. RUclips is not the best at notifying me about comments. The best soft ferro I have found is Wildo in sweden and helikon
_I'm a big fan as ferro rods are the idiot proof end of the fire lighting methods. "Washboarding" or "Gals stomach 10 years ago" is always in a slightly twisted configuration suggesting that it's actually the fault of the manufacturing process where a softer and harder "mishmetal" are twisted together_
All credit to the lady behind the lense. Its a Canon camera body. Anything more technical than that I will have to drag her back in from hiking to ask haha
0:31 Haha, it's not an invention from Sweden, it"s from Austria. It's not a mixture of ferrous metals, it's an alloy of rare-earth metals (mostly cerium and lanthanum) and 5-20% iron, hardened wirh magnesium and iron oxides.
It is indeed all of the above. I say so in my talks at shows. But a 40 minute video about ferris rods is not something that's that entertaining. So I use the public space info which is not a lie. An Austrian chemist invented it. But the swedish military brought it into field use as we know it. Padding the numbers brother. Thanks for watching
The ferro rod was not invented in Sweden but in Austria, as you can see on Wikipedia: "Ferrocerium alloy was invented in 1903 by the Austrian chemist Carl Auer von Welsbach." It's also called "Auermetall" for this reason. Or at least the alloy was not invented in Sweden.
The alloy wasn't brother. The Swedish military employed its use as we know today. Arguably the Canadians too but they where more fond of the magnesium small Ferro combo.
can you give me the name of one heavy in Magnesium and one heavy in ferrocerium ? i feel like there is so many options out there and non of them inform about this difference.. cant effort to just buy a bunch to figure out which i like.. might end up buying 3 in the same end haha. alot of people say the Exotac is good? but no clue what end it is in.
Apologies Cray for the late response. Commenting on our videos has been a major pain but we seem to have got it sorted. For one heavy in magnesium I would look at helikon and for ferrocium the exotac is a great another alternative is the ferro rod made by Kupilka. If you have any trouble finding let me know
yes, you can wear them out, it takes ages and many thousands of strikes. I've been using a 10"x 1/2" soft ferro rod solidly for 12 months and it's only about 1/2 worn down on one end and I have the other end still fresh and unused.
@jasonedwardledburynewzeala9897 mine is AEB-L I co-design knives with field and steel so I am a little biased. But they defo get the job done. You can check more of them in use over on my instagram @joe_price_l2l
Ferrocerium Rods have 3 different metals , Cerium Magnesium Iron Ferro Rods come in Two types Hard and Soft They have different percentages of each of these metals to make a soft one than to make a hard one Neither one matters to me because I know how to use each one Also size doesn't matter Nor does Length to me I have over 100 of various types and sizes from super small to 1" inch diameter by 10" inches long huge 2 pounds each I have used multiple things to strike a Ferro Rod I also make my own handles from different wood species, Black Walnut Beech Hickory Red Cedar Oak Fat Wood (Pine) Red Wood Sequoia Mahogany Apple Maple Even Deer Antler
But its a man-made finite material🦧 what benefits does it offer over traditional lighters? Lighters work in extreme cold if you keep them warm in your pocket where they belong. Lighters run empty, but ferro rods only last so long until they break too. Its not a natural material so its not really a survivalist skill by any means, and it lacks any versatility of use(try relighting a pilot light or a gas stove or even a candle with a ferro rod) Everyway I look at this tool, Its a gimmick; like those every size sockets or floating tile floors
@@scaredofghosts6813 have you spent multiple days out camping anf hiking in minus 30 celcius weather ? Lighters also have mechanical parts. This is just a large chunk of metal. Lighters are made of finite material too. Yes you can light all stoves with them and most pilot lights even trangias. Lighters are also not natural materials but what survivalist is not going to carry a lighter and multiple methods of fire lighting ?
Thanks for the ferro rod composition and clarification.
I use and carry both kinds. The situation and my mood at the time determines which one I choose. Pro tip: when not using your ferro rod for an extended period of time, or like I do, after every use, coat your rod in a thin coat of vaseline or chapstick to prevent corrosion. Either one will not affect the performance and will only add a bit more fuel to your strike.
Dude thank you.
How do you find one with more magnesium in them. The ones I’ve seen don’t have a breakdown of metals in them.
You can also use wax to coat it
Good thinking... I just got my new rod and did a little scrape and practice and then was like, crap, how am I gonna keep that protected now ...
Smart
Liking these pocket size videos.
Definitely great for watching during quick breaks.
Keep them coming.
Thanks brother ! Got a good few on the editing table now. Thanks for watching 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Thank you, Joe and Ida 🙂 Your videos are so inspiring! I haven't known about those differences in fire rods before 🙂
That's awesome glad we could help sort that out 😀👍
Great explanation of the differences in the rods thanks for sharing guys
Thank you for watching! 😀
You guys have been uploading like crazy I love it
Living on a salt water estuary can have an effect on your ferro rods. I noticed this a few years ago. One rod, having been forgotten at the bottom of my bergen, had "furred" up (oxidised) due to the high salt content in the air that we have here. Good video. Thank you.
those chatter marks can all but be eliminated through the proper technique. Plus you can use a file to remove them.
I prefer an XL rod, my current 10"x 1/2" is the best one I have ever used. You can really develop massive amounts of sparks with a large rod and they make lighting fires easy. I use fire-cord paracord to weave a handle on 5" of the rod and then can make a 5" stroke.
Yes the washboard marks do happen. We always have to clean em up after classes and events. Thanks for the info/ joe
Orion ,
I agree with you ,
I have over 100 Ferro Rods from
Nathan 4071 and over 700 pieces of Fat Wood ,
So it doesn't matter much how long of a stroke I get , I usually get Fire on the 1st or 2nd strike ,
And I have 2 massive 1inch by 10 inch Ferro Rods if ever I need to set the Earth on fire ,
I too have 550 Paracord /Firecord plus wax infused juke string ,
I will be sending Nathan some very soon so watch for his video
Swedish vermonter in the house😄
Thanks so much! Just learning how to use my ferro rod.
God bless....stay warm.😊
Hi Joe and Ida just found your channel brilliant video guys 👍👍
Nice one Joe, thanks for sharing
ATB Del
Informative as always Joe. ATB.
And the same to you brother. Thanks for watching!
Very useful information there, I didn't know there were different mixtures in rods... cheers!
Very welcome ! Thank you for taking the time to watch and leave a comment.
Great video and wonderful information
Thank you 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Very good explanation. Thank you. Cheers from Malaysia.
Means a lot Muhammad ! Thank you too
👍👏🪓 great video as usual!
Love it folks.
Thank you brother Thomas. Sorry for the late response but the comment section on our videos has been as glitchy as a Tesla in the winter
Straight to the point, well done
Thanks 🙏,nice video,I knew this but it's good to refresh the memory...
Always good to have a gentle refresher to stay on top of things
So not all ferro rods are born equal
Thanks Joe Price for yet another great and informative video
Stay dirty my brother
I Was wondering what was up with my Ferro rod " Wash boarding " Thank you Joe..
Very welcome my friend !
I like replacing the striker with the p38 can opener with edges filed sharp 90deg. the true military issue ones are 1045 or 1050 hardened to 52-55 HRc (in the very military specifications, usually military specifications are strictly adhered to as you otherwise loose the contract and get fined), the cheap replicas are usually not hardened just stamped cold.
some of the military ones (six of the twenty seven I have) even throw sparks with flint (not great showers but...)
Nice explanation, thank you.
Really great! My metal matches are all on the hard side, but it would be cool to test out a softer and magnesium heavy too. Any suggestion of brand and type to look for?
Hey my man ! Sorry I missed this. RUclips is not the best at notifying me about comments. The best soft ferro I have found is Wildo in sweden and helikon
Excellent Ferro Rod info!
Thank you sir !
Can we self build a fire rod ? What are the incredentiens … ? And how can we make it ? … thx 🤔🤔🤔😜✌️🍀🔥
I would love nothing more than to expand on this but I have a feeling regular folk like us purchasing these materials may end up on a watch list haha
@@inforestsandlands … thx … ok then I write me self on this list … 🍀🍀🍀✌️😂👍😜✌️✌️✌️🔥🔥🔥
_I'm a big fan as ferro rods are the idiot proof end of the fire lighting methods. "Washboarding" or "Gals stomach 10 years ago" is always in a slightly twisted configuration suggesting that it's actually the fault of the manufacturing process where a softer and harder "mishmetal" are twisted together_
BOOM
Nice informative video 👍
Thats a great camera shot! Wonder what camera you are using? Great video!!!
All credit to the lady behind the lense. Its a Canon camera body. Anything more technical than that I will have to drag her back in from hiking to ask haha
It is not the length but the sparks. 💥
Great explanation bro! 🙌🏻
0:31 Haha, it's not an invention from Sweden, it"s from Austria. It's not a mixture of ferrous metals, it's an alloy of rare-earth metals (mostly cerium and lanthanum) and 5-20% iron, hardened wirh magnesium and iron oxides.
It is indeed all of the above. I say so in my talks at shows. But a 40 minute video about ferris rods is not something that's that entertaining. So I use the public space info which is not a lie. An Austrian chemist invented it. But the swedish military brought it into field use as we know it. Padding the numbers brother. Thanks for watching
Thanks Young Man !
Your very welcome !
Thank you for this.
Just wondering what your gloves are please? They look warm and strong in the fingertips.
You're very welcome. Apologies for the late reply but my gloves are from a Finnish company called Sasta
@@inforestsandlands
Thank you.
Awesome video! What's the knife?
@@joshuashirley7764 it's the delta made by field and steel in the UK
The ferro rod was not invented in Sweden but in Austria, as you can see on Wikipedia: "Ferrocerium alloy was invented in 1903 by the Austrian chemist Carl Auer von Welsbach." It's also called "Auermetall" for this reason. Or at least the alloy was not invented in Sweden.
The alloy wasn't brother. The Swedish military employed its use as we know today. Arguably the Canadians too but they where more fond of the magnesium small Ferro combo.
WOW ! My phone WAS LISTENING to me ! 😅😂😅😮😢! Thanks from 👵🏾🧕🏾 🫡🤗in USA
can you give me the name of one heavy in Magnesium and one heavy in ferrocerium ?
i feel like there is so many options out there and non of them inform about this difference..
cant effort to just buy a bunch to figure out which i like.. might end up buying 3 in the same end haha.
alot of people say the Exotac is good? but no clue what end it is in.
Apologies Cray for the late response. Commenting on our videos has been a major pain but we seem to have got it sorted. For one heavy in magnesium I would look at helikon and for ferrocium the exotac is a great another alternative is the ferro rod made by Kupilka. If you have any trouble finding let me know
I am in Boston , MA. and will RESEARCH also !
🔥
You look and speak like you know what you are talking about…lol. NEW FRIEND HERE from Gander Newfoundland and Labrador Canada!
Right back at yah brother 🤜🏼🤛🏼
Is that a Scottish accent? Greetings from Ukraine.
Hey Yevgen ! You were close. Its Irish
Er den på BIltema Magnesium?
Nice
Thanks ! and your handle is epic haha
Who sells the good ones in bulk ? I use to get of ebay and came from china gave away as gifts
I heard somewhere that any ferro rod handle not made from duct tape will eventually fail.
This is partially true. I havent seen any from kupilka or light my fire fail. But have had Casstrom and ones from custom makers fail.
So now I know that my chinese made is softer and has more magnesium.
Do these run out?
yes, you can wear them out, it takes ages and many thousands of strikes. I've been using a 10"x 1/2" soft ferro rod solidly for 12 months and it's only about 1/2 worn down on one end and I have the other end still fresh and unused.
What brand is your knife?
It's made by a British maker. Called Field and steel. fieldandsteel.co.uk/
@@inforestsandlands Thanks again. Cool looking Website. Is yours O1 or AEB - L and whats your impression of it so far?
@jasonedwardledburynewzeala9897 mine is AEB-L I co-design knives with field and steel so I am a little biased. But they defo get the job done. You can check more of them in use over on my instagram @joe_price_l2l
VId start at 1:37
Good Video apart from too much Blabberin before 1:37
Thanks for watching 👍🏼
Ferrocerium Rods have 3 different metals ,
Cerium
Magnesium
Iron
Ferro Rods come in Two types
Hard and Soft
They have different percentages of each of these metals to make a soft one
than to make a hard one
Neither one matters to me because I know how to use each one
Also size doesn't matter
Nor does Length to me
I have over 100 of various types and sizes from super small to 1" inch diameter by 10" inches long huge 2 pounds each
I have used multiple things to strike a Ferro Rod
I also make my own handles from different wood species,
Black Walnut
Beech
Hickory
Red Cedar
Oak
Fat Wood (Pine)
Red Wood Sequoia
Mahogany
Apple
Maple
Even Deer Antler
There about 15 different metals in them from the factories I have visited. Thanks for watching and the great info 🤜🏼🤛🏼 /joe
Where can I buy Antlers & what tools do I need to work with them & buy from WHERE ? In .England area!
ITS CAPTAIN PRICE FROM MW2 CAMPAIN ifykyk
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Here is all you need to knov about ferrocerium: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrocerium
Women say bigger is better - that applies to ferro rods!
First lesson, your at the store already, buy a zippo..ferro rods are a novelty not a skill
Amen to that. But here in Sweden its silly not to carry one
Don't be afraid
But its a man-made finite material🦧 what benefits does it offer over traditional lighters?
Lighters work in extreme cold if you keep them warm in your pocket where they belong.
Lighters run empty, but ferro rods only last so long until they break too.
Its not a natural material so its not really a survivalist skill by any means, and it lacks any versatility of use(try relighting a pilot light or a gas stove or even a candle with a ferro rod)
Everyway I look at this tool, Its a gimmick; like those every size sockets or floating tile floors
@@scaredofghosts6813 have you spent multiple days out camping anf hiking in minus 30 celcius weather ? Lighters also have mechanical parts. This is just a large chunk of metal. Lighters are made of finite material too. Yes you can light all stoves with them and most pilot lights even trangias. Lighters are also not natural materials but what survivalist is not going to carry a lighter and multiple methods of fire lighting ?